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DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 08:58 AM
got a call at work yesterday from my kids.......


"daddy......guess whats in the pool........a turtle......!!! "





the handbrake was in the back yard yesterday and heard a splash.......
it scared the crap out of her......
when she turned around....she saw the turtle swimming around in the pool......



this morning i decided to fish it out as it cant climb up from the water to the pool edge........




does anyone know what turtles eat.......?
its a long neck turtle.......

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Pedro_The_Swift
22nd February 2008, 09:00 AM
Crump will know:D

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 09:01 AM
Crump will know:D



why.... is he a longneck turtle......? :eek:

Disco_owner
22nd February 2008, 09:03 AM
Here Defenderzook;

Feeding Your Pet Turtle (http://www.petturtle.com/feeding.htm)

hiline
22nd February 2008, 09:04 AM
why.... is he a longneck turtle......? :eek:

nah is girlfriend is :p

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 09:09 AM
Here Defenderzook;

Feeding Your Pet Turtle (http://www.petturtle.com/feeding.htm)



hey....thanks.....

thats an interesting read........if its still around when i get home......
i will get the kids to leave out some food for it.....now that i know what it likes......


might have to go fishing and get some fish to put in my pool......it would be fascinating
to actually watch it hunt.......

sschmez
22nd February 2008, 09:25 AM
I had one when I was younger ....

used to feed it ..
Insects : crickets, grasshoppers, moths, etc
Meat: worms, mince, liver
It used to nibble on the aquatic plants in the tank.

I used to catch wild Mosquito fish and put them into the water ... they didn't last long

Another link for you (http://www.chelodina.com/)

Xavie
22nd February 2008, 09:28 AM
Very interesting. I have pet turtles, they are great. Quite small however.

What sort of water do you have in your pool?

Xavier

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 09:33 AM
salt water.....

crump
22nd February 2008, 09:34 AM
your wild common long neck (Chelodina longicollis) will probably NOT consume any of the propriety brand Turtle foods at first, it is a learned behaviour.Foods such as live fish, Tadpoles and aquatic insects are the items more likely to be accepted.You could try it on strips of beef heart dusted with a vitamin supplement.If your pool is chlorinated the chlorine levels will be way too high for turles or fish longterm, move it to another container with tap water.Beware that if you pick it up it may empty its scent glands which stink to high heaven.My advice is keep it for a few days, and if your kids are generally interested, release it a the nearest waterway and go to one of the many freshwater turutle breeders in your area and purchase a captive bred animal, much easier to care for.You can find them here,
Reptiles and Amphibians : Australian Pet Link Classifieds (http://www.petlink.com.au/Classifieds/Reptiles/)
you may have to get a licence in your state, not sure if you only have one.Hope that helps.

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 09:49 AM
i dont know if its a wild turtle.......or if someone has lost a pet........

last week my neighbour said he saw a turtle in the driveway........

and now...a week later theres one in the pool......its gotta be the same one......
there cant be too many running around..........

Grimace
22nd February 2008, 10:09 AM
they like whitebait. still want to get myself a turtle again.

abaddonxi
22nd February 2008, 10:20 AM
i dont know if its a wild turtle.......or if someone has lost a pet........

last week my neighbour said he saw a turtle in the driveway........

and now...a week later theres one in the pool......its gotta be the same one......
there cant be too many running around..........

I think the small turtles move a leetle bit faster than that.

Cheers
Simon

isuzurover
22nd February 2008, 10:29 AM
Creature Features - Licensed Pets (http://www.abc.net.au/creaturefeatures/facts/pets.htm)

Info here on legality and licences.

Unfortunately, the permit only allows you to keep captive bred reptiles. It is illegal to keep a "wild" one as a pet.

The pool water is probably not very good for it - will probably eventually die from drinking it.

isuzurover
22nd February 2008, 10:30 AM
Creature Features - Licensed Pets (http://www.abc.net.au/creaturefeatures/facts/pets.htm)

Info here on legality and licences.

Unfortunately, the permit only allows you to keep captive bred reptiles. It is illegal to keep a "wild" one as a pet.

The pool water is probably not very good for it - will probably eventually die from drinking it.

Tank
22nd February 2008, 10:35 AM
got a call at work yesterday from my kids.......





"daddy......guess whats in the pool........a turtle......!!! "






the handbrake was in the back yard yesterday and heard a splash.......
it scared the crap out of her......
when she turned around....she saw the turtle swimming around in the pool......




this morning i decided to fish it out as it cant climb up from the water to the pool edge........





does anyone know what turtles eat.......?
its a long neck turtle.......

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They will eat all the nasty insects and snails that infest your garden. I had one for over 20 years in my backyard in Balmain, they hibernate so they disappear for a while if you decide to keep it don't feed it too often say a bit of mince meat once or twice a month, that way they will keep the pests out of your garden, also put something that floats in the pool for him to climb onto otherwise he will drown after exhausting hiself trying to climb out, always face their backsides away from you when you pick them up, otherwise you may end up with smelly wee wees all over your front, Regards Frank.

Ferret
22nd February 2008, 10:38 AM
It is probably not a turtle, its a tortoise. A turtle has flippers - lives mostly in the ocean. A tortoise has webbed feet - lives mostly on land.

When I was a kid I had a long neck tortoise for a pet.

Found it by the side of the road after a car had clipped it. Had a cracked shell, had one back leg missing and had one front paw / foot (whatever) missing.

Anyway, I took it home, looked after it and it lived in our back yard for years. It used to follow me around like a very slow dog whenever I was in the back yard.

I fed it worms but it would only eat if it was in water. It would never take the worms on dry land. Only needed a feed every few days or so during summer. In winter it would dissappear for a few months, hibinating somewhere in the garden.

Tank
22nd February 2008, 10:45 AM
It is probably not a turtle, its a tortoise. A turtle has flippers - lives mostly in the ocean. A tortoise has webbed feet - lives mostly on land.

When I was a kid I had a long neck tortoise for a pet.

Found it by the side of the road after a car had clipped it. Had a cracked shell, had one back leg missing and had one front paw / foot (whatever) missing.

Anyway, I took it home, looked after it and it lived in our back yard for years. It used to follow me around like a very slow dog whenever I was in the back yard.

I fed it worms but it would only eat if it was in water. It would never take the worms on dry land. Only needed a feed every few days or so during summer. In winter it would dissappear for a few months, hibinating somewhere in the garden.
What was his name, not "Lucky" by any chance, LOL, Regards Frank.

numpty
22nd February 2008, 11:41 AM
It is probably not a turtle, its a tortoise. A turtle has flippers - lives mostly in the ocean. A tortoise has webbed feet - lives mostly on land.

When I was a kid I had a long neck tortoise for a pet.

Found it by the side of the road after a car had clipped it. Had a cracked shell, had one back leg missing and had one front paw / foot (whatever) missing.

Anyway, I took it home, looked after it and it lived in our back yard for years. It used to follow me around like a very slow dog whenever I was in the back yard.

I fed it worms but it would only eat if it was in water. It would never take the worms on dry land. Only needed a feed every few days or so during summer. In winter it would dissappear for a few months, hibinating somewhere in the garden.

Crump will know better. But, a number of years ago the whoevers that be decreed that all were turtles unless they lived on land exclusively, regardless of fresh or saltwater. And you'll rarely find them too far from water. Most have webbing between the toes which could be construed as flippers.

There used to be heaps of them around the Shire when I was a lad, and we quite often had them in the garden.

101RRS
22nd February 2008, 11:43 AM
It is probably not a turtle, its a tortoise. A turtle has flippers - lives mostly in the ocean. A tortoise has webbed feet - lives mostly on land.

I fed it worms but it would only eat if it was in water. It would never take the worms on dry land. Only needed a feed every few days or so during summer. In winter it would dissappear for a few months, hibinating somewhere in the garden.

When I was a kid - if they had flippers they were turtles and if they had legs they were tortoises.

However now if they are land only, such as the Galapogos they are tortoises but if they live in water - irrespective whether they have legs or flippers they are turtles.

So, this is a long neck turtle (30 years ago it was a tortoise).

I agree they tend to eat in water rather than on land and they love worms and lettuce. Put the turtle in some shallow water with a couple of worms or fish and the turtle will happily eat.

However they will easily drown if they cannot climb out.

Garry

crump
22nd February 2008, 11:52 AM
when I was a kid(30+ years ago) it was Marine TURTLES, Land TORTOISES and Freshwater Tortoises in Australia.The Americans always had the terminology if it lived exclusively on land, tortoise, if it lived in water, turtle.We have since as Numpty stated, gone to Freshwater Turtle to describe all Australian species living in freshwater and Marine Turtle for those living in salt.We have no native tortoise.

crump
22nd February 2008, 11:54 AM
i dont know if its a wild turtle.......or if someone has lost a pet........

last week my neighbour said he saw a turtle in the driveway........

and now...a week later theres one in the pool......its gotta be the same one......
there cant be too many running around..........

you'd be suprised, how far to your nearest creek, dam, stormwater drain, small body of water etc???Longnecks typically go for overland walks and I have found them kilometers from water.

crump
22nd February 2008, 12:04 PM
Creature Features - Licensed Pets (http://www.abc.net.au/creaturefeatures/facts/pets.htm)

Info here on legality and licences.

Unfortunately, the permit only allows you to keep captive bred reptiles. It is illegal to keep a "wild" one as a pet.

The pool water is probably not very good for it - will probably eventually die from drinking it.

I wouldnt panic a great deal about the legality of hanging on to it for a while, though technically illegal I cant see the stormtroopers from NSW NPWS kicking your door down over an educational experience for your kids,although they used to use that tactic repeatedly to justify their existence in years gone by.Like I said, best to look at it ,enjoy it and let it go.(now who said that?);)There are plenty of captive bred, licensed stock in your area available if you want to go that way, figure on around $200 all up for turtle, tank, accessories, licence etc..

Ferret
22nd February 2008, 12:28 PM
when I was a kid(30+ years ago) it was Marine TURTLES, Land TORTOISES and Freshwater Tortoises in Australia.The Americans always had the terminology if it lived exclusively on land, tortoise, if it lived in water, turtle.We have since as Numpty stated, gone to Freshwater Turtle to describe all Australian species living in freshwater and Marine Turtle for those living in salt.We have no native tortoise.

So after 40+ years I find out I once owned a turtle and not a tortoise.

Sort of like thinking you once owned an old Range Rover but later found out it was just an old Jackaroo.

crump
22nd February 2008, 12:35 PM
So after 40+ years I find out I once owned a turtle and not a tortoise.

Sort of like thinking you once owned an old Range Rover but later found out it was just an old Jackaroo.
or dating the prom queen and marrying the lunch lady.:D
BUT, 40+ years ago was before the ban on animal imports, you may have owned a tortoise, I know several people my grandparents age who had true land tortoises (more then likely Greek or Leopard Tortoises) as children and as these things live for a hell of a long time you may have been that lucky.

29dinosaur
22nd February 2008, 12:46 PM
I wouldnt panic a great deal about the legality of hanging on to it for a while, though technically illegal I cant see the stormtroopers from NSW NPWS kicking your door down over an educational experience for your kids,although they used to use that tactic repeatedly to justify their existence in years gone by.Like I said, best to look at it ,enjoy it and let it go.(now who said that?);)There are plenty of captive bred, licensed stock in your area available if you want to go that way, figure on around $200 all up for turtle, tank, accessories, licence etc..


hmmm..hmmm..knock knock......


oh - luv the name for SWMBO - "handbrake" - have to start using that term - how apt! (Handbrake thinks I'm bit of a dipstick/block/crank/..... I guess).

isuzurover
22nd February 2008, 01:02 PM
I wouldnt panic a great deal about the legality of hanging on to it for a while, though technically illegal I cant see the stormtroopers from NSW NPWS kicking your door down over an educational experience for your kids,although they used to use that tactic repeatedly to justify their existence in years gone by.Like I said, best to look at it ,enjoy it and let it go.(now who said that?);)There are plenty of captive bred, licensed stock in your area available if you want to go that way, figure on around $200 all up for turtle, tank, accessories, licence etc..

Neither would I - just giving him full info...

I may have (allegedly) had a short-necked turtle for a pet when I was young (kept him in a large fish tank with a rock he could sit on when he got sick of swimming). He loved eating live fish, occasionally he would only get the tail end and it would continue swimming around until he finished it off. Eventually released him.

Knew a few other people who had one too.

EchiDna
22nd February 2008, 01:15 PM
go the paludarium - fish tank with land area and plants etc...

had one for 18 years, eats all the cockroaches, worms, crickets, moths, mosquito fish you can catch... always entertaining in the tank part of the paludarium, easy to get food for it too (local park lake has millions of mosquito fish in it, use a dip net to catch 20 or so and stick em in the tank... all gone in a few weeks :)

crump
22nd February 2008, 02:04 PM
Years ago you'd drill a hole in the poor tortoises shell and stake him down attached to a long piece of string so he couldn't escape

and that practise was brought about by them being referred to as "tortoises" heaps of aquatic turtles died slow deaths from being tethered out of water.

EchiDna
22nd February 2008, 05:18 PM
We were always told never to feed pets with locally caught fish because they carry disease. Maybe its just the ones in our area :D

definitely the case for sharing a tank with other fish... but given it's a native animal that comes from places just like the lake from which said mosquito fish come and it has lived for 17 years thus far under my care, I'm not too worried :)

that said, only healthy mozzie fish make the cut :)

Redback
22nd February 2008, 07:19 PM
Mmmmm turtle soup:D











































































In garlic sauce of coarse:eek:

Baz.

LandyAndy
22nd February 2008, 07:30 PM
And you could use the shell for an ashtray:D:D:D
Andrew

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 08:04 PM
on my home from tonight......i stopped at the bottom of the street....to watch the people fishing as i normally do......
and i got talking to one of the guys there that seemed to know me......he is one of my neighbours.....
but i dont know which one........
anyhows.......i mentioned the turtle......and he said it was his......or his sisters really......
she had it in her house that was being rented out....when the tenants left......she found that in the pool or pond.....
or whatever......
so he said to her that he would take it and put it in his pond........it was there for a couple of days then disappeared......

i said to him ive found it.......

we both found it amusing how it all happened.......ive got no idea where it is now....i will go out and have a look for it tomorrow......



hows that for fate......i tell one other person....and it just happens to be his......
i havent spoken to anyone else in the street about it.....i just find it all a bit freaky........

crump
22nd February 2008, 08:21 PM
bet it was Donatello.:D

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 08:24 PM
cowabunga........


do i need to watch out for a killer rat.......?

UncleHo
22nd February 2008, 08:47 PM
G'day Crump :)

I have a question for you, would the said Turtle/Tortoise would that not be an "Australian Eastern Long-Necked Terrapin" :confused: and a great carrier on Saminella???? and should be handled with care and hands washed thoroughly, as I remember being lectured by a vet about this a few years ago, as we have a large dam next to our place and they regularly go walkies across the road, and we have to rescue them from "Caring" motorists that aim for them:mad:

cheers

LandyAndy
22nd February 2008, 08:50 PM
It is the year of the Rat so you may get him calling in to look after his mate!!!
Andrew

crump
22nd February 2008, 08:57 PM
G'day Crump :)

I have a question for you, would the said Turtle/Tortoise would that not be an "Australian Eastern Long-Necked Terrapin" :confused: and a great carrier on Saminella???? and should be handled with care and hands washed thoroughly, as I remember being lectured by a vet about this a few years ago, as we have a large dam next to our place and they regularly go walkies across the road, and we have to rescue them from "Caring" motorists that aim for them:mad:

cheers
there has never been an Ozzie Terrapin , that is an American term.All turtles CAN carry Salmonella as can ALL raw chicken, the Salmonella scare thing was brought about by the Red Eared Slider which was sold as a Dime Store Turtle in the 60s, and there were cases of salmonella attributed to the turtles, as American kids were putting them in their mouths.

DEFENDERZOOK
22nd February 2008, 09:07 PM
there has never been an Ozzie Terrapin , that is an American term.All turtles CAN carry Salmonella as can ALL raw chicken, the Salmonella scare thing was brought about by the Red Eared Slider which was sold as a Dime Store Turtle in the 60s, and there were cases of salmonella attributed to the turtles, as American kids were putting them in their mouths.


so....to be safe......i need to make sure its thoroughly cooked........otherwise i could get sick.....?

crump
22nd February 2008, 09:16 PM
so....to be safe......i need to make sure its thoroughly cooked........otherwise i could get sick.....?
well when you think its cooked stab it with a fork and if the juices run clear its done.:D

Bushie
22nd February 2008, 10:00 PM
My boss has just (this weekend) driven two turtle back to Albury to be released in the Murray. Both had damaged shells and have been recovering at a vets somewhere on the north shore, apparently a long process as they had been there for 15 months.
They were a decent size approx 350mm long (just the shell).

http://www.biocity.edu.au/pdf/Turtle_Manual_V4-2.pdf

As Numpty has said eastern longneck turtles are fairly common around "The Shire" we've had them on our front lawn.


Martyn