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Bulldog
26th February 2008, 08:37 PM
My non-LR-owning friend (if there's such a thing :o) has just installed a cheapish winch (Ironman i think) on his LandC*****r. The type with the wireless remote.

It somehow had a control box that wasn't sealing (it's only a few weeks old). Isolator wasn't installed. It turned itself on (going inwards :o). Bent the bullbar in, broke the rollers, took some strands off the cable, killed the battery and it won't winch in anymore. Problem was corrosion on the remote receiver terminals (no, he didn't sit on the remote). Sounds a bit unlikely to me, but...

As the place of purchase is giving a full replacement, this is not a technical question. But very interesting all the same.

Is this possible, or did he sit on the remote? :o;):D

Aaron
26th February 2008, 10:03 PM
Or did you press the remote... just for giggles at the expense of a Cruisers front end?

Sprint
26th February 2008, 10:11 PM
Or did you press the remote... just for giggles at the expense of a Cruisers front end?

the truly funny thing to do would be to sneak out to it sometime, unspool the cable, drag it under the car and back over the roof back onto the bullbar.....

Aaron
26th February 2008, 10:19 PM
Sardine tine like? I like the way you think!

fraser130
26th February 2008, 10:47 PM
My brother has one of those winches, I'll bet they all operate on the sam frequency, also his is a one push of the in button and it keeps going until you press stop. could someone else have been driving past with a remote?

Fraser

Lucus
26th February 2008, 10:54 PM
Scary stuff....could have been very nasty in the wrong situation.....:eek:

paulthepilot_5
26th February 2008, 11:02 PM
I think the idea of wireless winch controllers is a rather dangerous idea. i doubt any of them have any kind of signal filtering. i don't think it would be much fun having a limb wound up in a drum if one started up due to a false signal :eek:

fraser130
27th February 2008, 06:39 AM
I'm with you paul, I can just see it now, a bunch of people go 4wd ing and one pulls his cable out, hooks around a tree, next thing 4 winches within 200m all start winching in their bullbars!!!!
would sound quite funny, all that metal crunching!!

who's fault would it be?

:eek:
Fraser

ak
27th February 2008, 01:28 PM
Bloody unlucky by the sound of it. I have spoken to alot of people with ironman whinches and they have all been really happy with them.

Reads90
27th February 2008, 01:41 PM
I think the idea of wireless winch controllers is a rather dangerous idea. i doubt any of them have any kind of signal filtering. i don't think it would be much fun having a limb wound up in a drum if one started up due to a false signal :eek:


Personally i think the idea of having a winch that does not have a cut of swtich is terribly dangerous. We all have cut of switches as standard in the Uk but when arb in brisbane fitted my winch on the 90 they looked at me as if i was mad when i demanded a cut of switch on the winch

Ali

DEFENDERZOOK
27th February 2008, 02:12 PM
wireless remote s a good idea...it allows you stay right back out of the way during winching.......



but i would think an isolator switch to disconnect the power would be important.....
be it wireless remote or otherwise......

spooling the cable out and over the vehicle is an old not-so-funny joke.....
and all thats required is a paperclip in the terminals instead of the remote.....
hence why its important to have an isolator switch........

Bulldog
27th February 2008, 07:18 PM
Personally i think the idea of having a winch that does not have a cut of swtich is terribly dangerous. We all have cut of switches as standard in the Uk but when arb in brisbane fitted my winch on the 90 they looked at me as if i was mad when i demanded a cut of switch on the winch

Ali

Is a cut off switch what i think it is: a switch that detects the end of the cable and STOPS? If so, i can't see why every winch doesn't have that.

An isolator switch would be pretty obvious thing to have i would think, but what do people do with these - turn it on when your stuck and off again when your out? Leave it on for the rest of the day? Turn it on when you leave to go on a 4x4 outing?

The idea of a remote operating another winch is quite amusing (until someone gets hurt, like every other amusing thing).

I saw the offending winch today: bullbar isn't too bad, but the rollers are all over the place, the cable looks pretty bad too.

If i was the shop owner, i'd be questioning whether it was the operators fault instead of saying "never heard of that happening, here's a new one and a bullbar to match".

Reads90
27th February 2008, 08:22 PM
Is a cut off switch what i think it is: a switch that detects the end of the cable and STOPS? If so, i can't see why every winch doesn't have that.

An isolator switch would be pretty obvious thing to have i would think, but what do people do with these - turn it on when your stuck and off again when your out? Leave it on for the rest of the day? Turn it on when you leave to go on a 4x4 outing?

The idea of a remote operating another winch is quite amusing (until someone gets hurt, like every other amusing thing).

I saw the offending winch today: bullbar isn't too bad, but the rollers are all over the place, the cable looks pretty bad too.

If i was the shop owner, i'd be questioning whether it was the operators fault instead of saying "never heard of that happening, here's a new one and a bullbar to match".


I was talking about a battery cut off swtich or as you say An isolator switch .
Every winch sould have one

Ali