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5teve
27th February 2008, 12:58 PM
Hi Guys
ok i have now had another tyre blow out (standard michelins) and am fed up with replacing them one at a time.. so its time to replace the lot...
i have had a price for some new bridgestone dueller d694LT tyres (245 70 16's) of $229 each. (are these a common size by the way? more so than the old 235 70 16's)
are these any good, and is it a good price?
are there any tyre you would recommend (that act as per the standard michelins) that are good for road and a bit of off road work at a good price? i need them changing tomorrow as we are off to jurien at the weekend..
Perth supplier only please :)
Thanks again... hopefully this will finally end my stupid tyre questions..
Steve
agrojnr
27th February 2008, 02:26 PM
Steve give the boys at West State Tyre service a call (bently) 9258 9259 they will bet that price for sure
Mine (235/85/16) muddies only cost $205 a tyre fitted
They fitted 5 tyres for me in 25min:eek:
Adam
HangOver
27th February 2008, 02:38 PM
Hi Steve you can also try Right Tyres in Joondalup a call. I have had several tyres from him and he seems OK.
Last time I hinted, (a lot) I had a price from elsewhere and he beat it.
Steve
5teve
27th February 2008, 03:00 PM
thanks guys
thise bridgestones seem to be a popular one or Khumos for about $20 a tyre less..
are the bridgestones any good? or should i go khumo or even advanta or hercules? (sound fairly nasty)
Thanks
Steve
Fusion
27th February 2008, 03:04 PM
Steve , Mate you need to find a 4 leaf clover . That or send your landy to its room for awhile :p:D:wasntme:
HangOver
27th February 2008, 03:35 PM
thanks guys
thise bridgestones seem to be a popular one or Khumos for about $20 a tyre less..
are the bridgestones any good? or should i go khumo or even advanta or hercules? (sound fairly nasty)
Thanks
Steve
Bridgestone, I see them a lot so they must be good, right?
I also see a lot of Ford's;)
I haven't had first hand experience of Bridgestone so can't say. Never heard of Advanta.
I have tried:
Hankook < seemed pretty good, they take a lot of punishment off road.
Nexen < also pretty good and are usually cheaper.
Goodyear < happy with them on my Falcon, never tried AT or LT's
Khumos < A bloke where I work has them on his LandLuser and has been up north a few times and he said they where petty good. They must be OK too as he's even more of a tight a$$ the me ! He does light off road to launch his boat off the beach, and that's about it.
I have had a few problems with BFG.
Thing is about tyres, they are a bit like shop assistants, you get good ones and bad but it depends on who they are serving on a particular day and how much grief you give them ! :D
beforethevision
27th February 2008, 03:48 PM
Personally id say if you can afford em, go the BFG ATs.
With some pushing you can get them cheap, i got mine (albeit a little smaller 215/75R15) for 190$ EA.
They are a common tyre for a reason. Having said that, i have not tried the new duelers...
isuzurover
27th February 2008, 04:14 PM
Not really up on AT tyres, but for the best prices in Perth, give Kewdale 2nd Hand Tyres a call (they MOSTLY sell NEW tyres - strange name).
I got my Maxxis Bighorns there aqnd was very happy with the price.
5teve
27th February 2008, 04:27 PM
thanks guys...
tried the suggestions.. and the maxxis have sparked my interest apart from the size im looking for are passenger style so 6 ply and 2 ply construction.. if i go to a 245 75 16 then i can get 10/3 for a reasonable price...but put my speedo out by a long way! i need to check the bridgestones too as the ones im looking at are light truck (so should be fairly heavy duty)
how hard can it be to decide ;O)
Thanks
Steve
cartm58
27th February 2008, 05:45 PM
Would have thought for WA, most AT tyres be good seeing WA is sand 90% of places we go and occasionally muddy during winter but from viewing tyres on West Coast 4x4 vehicles mainly Patrols and Cruisers they seem to like muddies and don't seem to hinder them on beaches or dunes when lowered to around 12 to 14 psi.
discopete
27th February 2008, 06:00 PM
Hi Guys
ok i have now had another tyre blow out (standard michelins) and am fed up with replacing them one at a time.. so its time to replace the lot...
i have had a price for some new bridgestone dueller d694LT tyres (245 70 16's) of $229 each. (are these a common size by the way? more so than the old 235 70 16's)
are these any good, and is it a good price?
are there any tyre you would recommend (that act as per the standard michelins) that are good for road and a bit of off road work at a good price? i need them changing tomorrow as we are off to jurien at the weekend..
Perth supplier only please :)
Thanks again... hopefully this will finally end my stupid tyre questions..
Steve
G'day Steve,
I've used/use d694s in that size on a disco s1 and td5 but not in LT. They are are an excellent tyre on road and on the s1 we'll probably get 60000kms out of them. Can't comment off road though. Price is about what we paid a couple of years ago.
HTH,
Pete
Fusion
27th February 2008, 06:01 PM
I like the Maxxis bighorn BFG M/T copy and i got 32x11.5x15 at $220ea fitted and balanced . I haven't tryed them out yet but do have mates that love them ;).
LandyAndy
27th February 2008, 06:41 PM
Goodyear MTRs:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Ive got 235/85x16 on mine.
Impressed me on the beach over new years.Went on without airing down to see how I went,infact we all did.I didnt air down to get off the beach everybody else did.
They didnt bury in like a mud tyre,just kept churning.
Goodyear dont call them a mud tyre,MTR= Maximum Traction Radial.
They wear well,Fat Faz has over 15000ks and trhey are looking good.Mine are less than 10000ks and look new still.
Around $270ea F/B
Andrew
strangy
27th February 2008, 07:25 PM
Bridgestone All Terrain Average price. Average to poor tyre
5teve
27th February 2008, 07:36 PM
with the bridgestone remember they are the 694LT not the plain 694. they are a tougher tyre apparently... but cant really find any info at all... not even the bridgestone show it they just show a load rating of 113 and speed rating of S
the maxxis are no go as they are a 245 75 16 so 5% ish bigger in circumference and my speedo is running at very most 2% under (reading 100k's showing 98 on the gps) and thats with 235 60 16's the smaller maxxis will do but they arent as strong as the larger one as the larger is also a light truck tyre.
how hard is it to recalibrate a td5 speedo? can it be done with a nanocom? :p
i wanted to keep the budget below a grand or as close as for all 5... unless i go same size and keep a good one for spare.. oh decisions decisions!
thanks again for the info guys
Steve
Bradtot
27th February 2008, 08:55 PM
Steve go and see Cookie at wanneroo tyres in Wangara
also come up and see us at Sandy cape (14kms past Jurien Bay) this weekend club will be there doing some cleanup work
Brad
no scratchy stuff so Rachel will be happy:D
5teve
27th February 2008, 10:08 PM
Steve go and see Cookie at wanneroo tyres in Wangara
also come up and see us at Sandy cape (14kms past Jurien Bay) this weekend club will be there doing some cleanup work
Brad
no scratchy stuff so Rachel will be happy:D
Thanks for that brad.. should i mention your name to him too? :) or would that add price on !! :D
we may take a ride up to see you... rach is glad that there isnt much scratchy stuff too.. may even bring a friend along with a nissan something.. we are on about going to stockyard gully too..
what time / days you up there?
Thanks
Steve
Bradtot
27th February 2008, 11:35 PM
Steve up there from Friday to monday unless out galavanting somwhere I may even go to stockyard gully as well. We are doing some community work cleaning up the place and fixing stuff with the ranger.
Look for my rangie!
regards to wanneroo Tyres tell them discovery autos sent you.
I bought some tyres for my bus 2 weeks ago and they were the cheapest by far!
Brad
Rangier Rover
27th February 2008, 11:42 PM
Depends where and how you drive but the best tyre I've had is BF Goodridge Long trail. 80000 Kms and only 1 puncture. They are an awesome compromise in a tyre. My country is very hard going and heaps of rocks. They were around $220 each. :)
CraigE
27th February 2008, 11:47 PM
Steve,
The Bridgestone 694Lt are crap in my opinion. They went to crap when they started manufacturing them in Australia.
I have had a good run out of Cooper STT's but opinion is widely divided on these.
BFG AT or MTs are good as well.
It mostly depends on your budget, but you do generally get what you pay for. Pirellis are a good mid price, as are Hankooks. Maxxis for the cheaper end. Goodyear Wranglers are another mid-high price.
Rangier Rover
28th February 2008, 12:08 AM
Steve,
The Bridgestone 694Lt are crap in my opinion. They went to crap when they started manufacturing them in Australia.
I have had a good run out of Cooper STT's but opinion is widely divided on these.
BFG AT or MTs are good as well.
It mostly depends on your budget, but you do generally get what you pay for. Pirellis are a good mid price, as are Hankooks. Maxxis for the cheaper end. Goodyear Wranglers are another mid-high price. We find the STT's chip on Rocks:( They have been known to last over100000 Kms in good going how ever) The wider the tread the more the chip. You have to look at the aplication of the tyre. It's no use running a MTR on rocks or a H/T in Mud. It comes down to a compromise. Unless you have 2 sets of tyres.
Michael2
28th February 2008, 12:14 AM
I put K-Mart Kumhos on the Range Rover and they lasted about 115,000km before one of the tyres developed a bubble and I replaced the set. Shame, as I reckon I could have got another 6 months out of them. I was running 215/85R16, and couldn't get the same size / pattern again, so changed brands. They did some rough 4WDing, but for the most part covered road kms.
5teve
28th February 2008, 07:50 AM
Steve,
The Bridgestone 694Lt are crap in my opinion. They went to crap when they started manufacturing them in Australia.
I have had a good run out of Cooper STT's but opinion is widely divided on these.
BFG AT or MTs are good as well.
It mostly depends on your budget, but you do generally get what you pay for. Pirellis are a good mid price, as are Hankooks. Maxxis for the cheaper end. Goodyear Wranglers are another mid-high price.
Thanks Craig, but i dont think the size im after are made here (not according to the leaflet, some are some arent) i am seeing very mixed reveiws on the d694 but nothing on the LT version.. have you got first hand experience with them then? BFG's are going to push my budget a bit too much i think.. im getting quoted 280+ for them..
one reason for going with them is the tyre place is next door to work, so i dont have to take time off to get it done... and i have to get it done today as we are off to jurien bay tomorrow!
Brad..
Yes we will pop up to see you.. we wont have a radio or anything tho.. (something else to sort out!) so do you have a location where you will be or is it easy to find?
Michael
Thanks for the info, i have heard good and bad about the kuhmo tyres but the consistent thing is that they bubble, and for the small difference in cost i'd rather not have a bubbling tyre, sounds like you got a damn good set tho!
thanks again guys...
Steve
5teve
28th February 2008, 09:22 AM
bah phoned wanneroo tyres and they have coopers ATR's but they need a week or 2 to get them in... price of around 255 which seems quite good.. but i cant wait either...
Bugger! got 30 mins now to make a choice... :(
Steve
Bradtot
28th February 2008, 09:23 AM
Yes go to road to greenhead leeman turn left at sign to sandy cape app 12kms ..gravel rd..keep going till u hit T junction, caretaker on your left. Turn right and go past toilet on hill app 50mtrs we will be on the left see u there
Brad:cool:
Signal1
28th February 2008, 09:34 AM
Last week I fitted Mickey Thompson LT245/75R16 to my D2 replacing the Michelin XPC 235/70R16.
I am very happy with them, there has not been an increase in road noise at all. I've tried them on gravel, fast dirt and in the wet...no concerns. Haven't tried them off road yet but they are going to be my run around tyre and used for Fraser in September.
Cost was $255ea fitted, balance, alignment & new values. You may be able to do better.
In relation to speedo - mine is now showing worst case 3km/h slower than actual at 100km/h. At 60km/h, it's showing 1-2km/h slower than actual.
This doesn't concern me at all as all our speedos are out...mine now is a little over which I'm conscious of.
Just in case you can research them today...
Mickey Thompson - World's Toughest Traction Tyres! (http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/tyres/baja_radial_atz.htm)
brougham
28th February 2008, 09:38 AM
i had the 694's on my Series 1 disco a few years ago when they first came out. i thought they were quite a good tyre, quiet on-road and good grip in the wet. on sand they were really good, the only prpblem i saw was in damp/wet sand the tread pattern liked filling up and compacting in sand a lot quicker than other tyres (such as Coopers and BFG's), but on dry sand/hills/gravel, etc i thought they were pretty good, especially for the price.
harryw
11th March 2008, 05:24 PM
bah phoned wanneroo tyres and they have coopers ATR's but they need a week or 2 to get them in... price of around 255 which seems quite good.. but i cant wait either...
Bugger! got 30 mins now to make a choice... :(
Steve
Hi 5teve
What did you choose after all your deliberating?
I have looked at my Michelins , done 75,000k, and need to replace 2 fairly soon and having a brand new one on the back not sure if I should get 4 Michelins over 6 months or 5 something else fairly soon.
I don't need a lot of mud driving capabilty as the disco is now a full time caravan pulling grey nomad vehicle .:)
regards
BradM
11th March 2008, 05:46 PM
Have a look at the Yokohama G012 ATS. I tow, run on sand, Pilbara tracks, etc. They are turning out to be one great AT tyre.
BradM
procrastination inc
11th March 2008, 06:13 PM
I have cheap maxxis road tyres on at the moment, never had a maxxis tyre on anything but a bicycle before... 10,000km so far so good
I had 2 sets of toyo open countries on an 85 jackaroo, over 200,000 km out of those. Seem to be hard to find now.
5teve
11th March 2008, 06:28 PM
Hi 5teve
What did you choose after all your deliberating?
I have looked at my Michelins , done 75,000k, and need to replace 2 fairly soon and having a brand new one on the back not sure if I should get 4 Michelins over 6 months or 5 something else fairly soon.
I don't need a lot of mud driving capabilty as the disco is now a full time caravan pulling grey nomad vehicle .:)
regards
Hi Harry
went for the bridgestone 694LT tyres... given em a test seem ok in sand @ 28psi (rocks were there too), $229 each fitted and balanced so not a bad deal... given that they are the LIGHT TRUCK versions and made in japan... (well the 245 70 16's are.. )
Thanks
Steve
Treads
13th March 2008, 10:09 PM
Hi Harry
went for the bridgestone 694LT tyres... given em a test seem ok in sand @ 28psi (rocks were there too), $229 each fitted and balanced so not a bad deal... given that they are the LIGHT TRUCK versions and made in japan... (well the 245 70 16's are.. )
Thanks
Steve
Put the same set on my D1 today, will be very interested to see how they fare off-road. Travelled 200km home on tar this arvo and was very pleased with the noise and grip. Bridgestone have a bonus 8L 12v fridge going free with each set of 694's at the moment :cool: Wish I'd seen this thread though because I paid $1k for 4 tyres fitted, balanced and an alignment :oops2:
5teve
13th March 2008, 10:15 PM
the offer is on the LT only... the cheap offer i got that is... the normal 694's were more exxy hence the reason i got the LT's
Thanks
Steve
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