350 to 95 disco

[rovercare]

Well here we have a well worn in disco, 226.oooklms, we put Tojo centres, lux CV's and Air lockers in with 4.1's some time ago, now its time for a little more horsepower:D Motor is heading to PSI250:)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/37.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/38.jpg

Started at 1600ish and as off about 2000 this is what we had,


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/39.jpg



remember no rush alot of beer MUST be consumed while doing this, plus me head was mush from being up since 1700 the day before:D

So take 1 adaptor plate I had and a 350chev that just happened to be lying around to, order a crankshaft aqdaptor from Marks, now today I'm finally awake, didn't get to bed till 2345 last night, I'll head to town and get the appropriate capheads and machine up a dolly to get the ****ing spigot adaptor out, spent 3 hours, grease -dolly -belt -belt, grease -dolly belt -belt and the faucking thing just wouldn't move, so i'll try a tighter dolly if that doesn't work it'll be the drill and die grinder:(

I'll take more pics today

[BigJon]

Looks interesting:twisted:. Will keep an eye on this thread.

[Rangier Rover]

That will be a mean Diso! Is that a ZF Auto there? The chev will make it work hard:eek:

[rovercare]

That will be a mean Diso! Is that a ZF Auto there? The chev will make it work hard:eek:

Sure is a ZF, yea original kays to, the car looks rough but its pretty well maintained, just never washed and the 350 is only a crate motor with a boat cam, still better than a rover motor but:angel:

[Rangier Rover]

Sure is a ZF, yea original kays to, the car looks rough but its pretty well maintained, just never washed and the 350 is only a crate motor with a boat cam, still better than a rover motor but:angel:
Hmmm, this would look good in my 89 Rangie;) Will be watching with interest:D

[Tank]

Well here we have a well worn in disco, 226.oooklms, we put Tojo centres, lux CV's and Air lockers in with 4.1's some time ago, now its time for a little more horsepower:D Motor is heading to PSI250:)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/37.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/38.jpg

Started at 1600ish and as off about 2000 this is what we had,


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/39.jpg



remember no rush alot of beer MUST be consumed while doing this, plus me head was mush from being up since 1700 the day before:D

So take 1 adaptor plate I had and a 350chev that just happened to be lying around to, order a crankshaft aqdaptor from Marks, now today I'm finally awake, didn't get to bed till 2345 last night, I'll head to town and get the appropriate capheads and machine up a dolly to get the ****ing spigot adaptor out, spent 3 hours, grease -dolly -belt -belt, grease -dolly belt -belt and the faucking thing just wouldn't move, so i'll try a tighter dolly if that doesn't work it'll be the drill and die grinder:(

I'll take more pics today
Instead of packing grease into the spigot bearing in the flywheel to push it out, replace grease with wet toilet paper, has worked every time for me, you will need some upgraded springs, that Chev boat (anchor) motor is abot 100kgs heavier than the Rover, Regards Frank.

[PeterM]

Interesting thread. Curious to see how it all goes.

Just to clarify, driveline wise you've got landcruiser centres, hilux cvs and the rest is std rover gear or have you got Maxi axles etc. Rover hubs? Is the 350 a ULP motor? EFI or carbs?

[sclarke]

That Chev sounds so nice at full noise in a bog hole.......

Has the rest of the Jaffa gone???

[rovercare]

That Chev sounds so nice at full noise in a bog hole.......

Has the rest of the Jaffa gone???

Long gone, stopped bothering calling your mate, told me he was coming a few times, then said he'd call another time, never bothered, in the weather, with the hoses taped now:(

[rovercare]

Well the spigot adaptor is out:eek: total time........probably 6 bloody hours, how did we finally do it after I turned up a decent shaft more grease and bash, then steering wheel puller and harmonic balance puller

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/17.jpg

Nothing a MIG can't fix:D

Lesson 2, whenever you pull the bellhousing of a ZF, don't knock the front housing and pump off, it takes another 1.5hrs to line it up and refit it, try lining 2 sets of clutches up and a splined section, I was about to throw my first violent wobbly in near 6 years after that:eek:

Productive day? well, I'm where I'd of liked to have been yesterday:mad:

[Tank]

Well the spigot adaptor is out:eek: total time........probably 6 bloody hours, how did we finally do it after I turned up a decent shaft more grease and bash, then steering wheel puller and harmonic balance puller

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/17.jpg

Nothing a MIG can't fix:D

Lesson 2, whenever you pull the bellhousing of a ZF, don't knock the front housing and pump off, it takes another 1.5hrs to line it up and refit it, try lining 2 sets of clutches up and a splined section, I was about to throw my first violent wobbly in near 6 years after that:eek:

Productive day? well, I'm where I'd of liked to have been yesterday:mad:
Did you try the wet toilet paper, much denser than grease, has always worked for me, even when slide hammers failed, Regards Frank.

[BigJon]

Lesson 2, whenever you pull the bellhousing of a ZF, don't knock the front housing and pump off, it takes another 1.5hrs to line it up and refit it, try lining 2 sets of clutches up and a splined section, I was about to throw my first violent wobbly in near 6 years after that:eek:



We have had that problem here, with about the same amount of time invested in refitting it!

[dobbo]

FMD thats scarey, what sort of oil cooler are you going to use for that poor gearbox?

[rovercare]

Did you try the wet toilet paper, much denser than grease, has always worked for me, even when slide hammers failed, Regards Frank.

Sorry Frank I didn't see your post before hand, will keep it mind, although grease has always worked for me, The reason it didn't work though, is it only acting on a 3mm surface inside there, trying to push out near 2"s of contact area:)

[rovercare]

Interesting thread. Curious to see how it all goes.

Just to clarify, driveline wise you've got landcruiser centres, hilux cvs and the rest is std rover gear or have you got Maxi axles etc. Rover hubs? Is the 350 a ULP motor? EFI or carbs?

Hilux centres and CV's, 3 Jacmac axles, and one short side 60 series

350 Has got an impco 425 mixer at the moment, but will get a quadrajet and probably 225 mixer, it will be gas mainly

[rovercare]

FMD thats scarey, what sort of oil cooler are you going to use for that poor gearbox?

Original, it'll be fine;)

[sclarke]

Dobbo, What nationality are you???
Only because i say FMD also........ its not a Skip term...

[rovercare]

What happened today? well a jag with a 1UZ-FE got dropped off and I have to wire it:eek: so sticky nosed at that for a bit

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/1.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/1052.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/620.jpg

Then I decided I didn't want to fit the Chev, till a mate bores some holes through the flywheel, for access to the torque convertor bolts, will make for easier removal/refit..........not that it'll be needed:angel::D, so its pulling looms apart till tomorrow arvo then off to bore some holes, see if there is any updates before I go back to work Sunday morning:mad:

[loanrangie]

Dobbo, What nationality are you???
Only because i say FMD also........ its not a Skip term...

i would say its an aussie term .

[rovercare]

Updates.......Anyone interested?:confused:

Well today starts with the Jag, the loom after a hair cut:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/695.jpg

The Supervision, nearly 17 years old and still kicking along well:eek:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1466.jpg

Yep, it runs;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/1051.jpg

What I got done on the Disco, well got the access holes bored for the convertor bolts, that's it:(
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/696.jpg

[Vern]

That disco you were talking about looks alot like Prodzy's;)

[rovercare]

That disco you were talking about looks alot like Prodzy's;)

Well done grasshopper:D

[Vern]

Josh obviously doesn't care about the emissions;).
Pretty sure i'll have another job for you to do soon, atleast you'll get it done, just let me know how many beer tickets:p

[rovercare]

Josh obviously doesn't care about the emissions;).
Pretty sure i'll have another job for you to do soon, atleast you'll get it done, just let me know how many beer tickets:p

Be run on gas most of the time anyhow:)

Does that mean I have to pull that great lump out aswell:eek:

[dobbo]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/620.jpg

:

Is that a Toyota sign in your engine bay?

[Vern]

Be run on gas most of the time anyhow:)

Does that mean I have to pull that great lump out aswell:eek:Nah i can do it, will see if it sells or not, will worry about it when i get some interest in it. May have to come get it.:(

[Vern]

Is that a Toyota sign in your engine bay?
Not his car, his has the gen3 in it

[rovercare]

Not his car, his has the gen3 in it

^^^^, its just a job I'm doing;)

I'm not biased anyway, so it wouldn't bother me

[rovercare]

By the way, today I drove the jag down the road, with the puta's and loom taped to the windscreen:D

Only selects first then up changes to nothing, hopefully sumething I forgotted to do in the loom, I've remembered, wont find out till Thursday but:(

[sclarke]

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[Sprint]

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[rovercare]

Well the disco goes, just need low pressure pump and solenoid to run fuel and will do the exhaust sunday and that's it, haven't bothered with detailed updates, not enough interest:(

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/571.jpg

[loanrangie]

So what are the legal ramafications of a carby (or straight lpg) 3 fitty chev in a disco ? Are you getting it engineered or is it a trailer queen- just curious.

[Rangier Rover]

[QUOTE=rovercare;706673]Well the disco goes, just need low pressure pump and solenoid to run fuel and will do the exhaust sunday and that's it, haven't bothered with detailed updates, not enough interest:(:confused::confused:Please;). I think we are all shy;)

[Vern]

I'd doubt Josh is getting it engineered and no its not a trailer queen. They do things a little different down in deliverence coutry:p

[rovercare]

I'd doubt Josh is getting it engineered and no its not a trailer queen. They do things a little different down in deliverence coutry:p

Your new neighbour soon:D:D

[rovercare]

So what are the legal ramafications of a carby (or straight lpg) 3 fitty chev in a disco ? Are you getting it engineered or is it a trailer queen- just curious.

Probaly like the 65mm body lift, 35's etc, finished that ute yet?:p

[sclarke]

Can you legally do a conversion like this without an Engineers cert??

Ive always thought you had to get a engineers cert to keep it registered and insured??
If not then what happens when they get pulled over or worse... hit another car or person?

[rovercare]

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[dobbo]

Very nice,

the conversion, that is.

[sclarke]

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Matt, i agree, your not responcable for the Engineer's report, But as your doing the work, your responcible for the quality of the work. If you do it right then its not a problem, but if its done wrong then there could be a reflection on you if someting went wrong.
All i was pointing out was that there is a moral obligation for him to have an engineers cert done on the job.

I'm not whining, i'm pointing out the obvious.
I've been watching this thread as i find it interesting, but you also said that your not going into detail as there was no one interested (7th March post)

[rovercare]

Matt, i agree, your not responcable for the Engineer's report, But as your doing the work, your responcible for the quality of the work. If you do it right then its not a problem, but if its done wrong then there could be a reflection on you if someting went wrong.
All i was pointing out was that there is a moral obligation for him to have an engineers cert done on the job.

I'm not whining, i'm pointing out the obvious.
I've been watching this thread as i find it interesting, but you also said that your not going into detail as there was no one interested (7th March post)

No quarms with my quality of work;), like a said, I wont go into extreme case of legality as it isn't quite so clean cut, I'm well aware of the risks and the repecussions involved:D

I've been doing engine conversions since I built my first car at 16-17;)

If your interested, ask questions, just not about legality;)

[dobbo]

responcable, responcible



Go on mate 3rd time lucky.;);)

Sorry Ron isn't here to do it.

[drivesafe]

Folks, this thread seems to be of some genuine interest so I won’t delete all of it but I’ll keep an eye on it.

If the bad language returns then I’ll take stronger action.

KEEP A SOCK IN IT.

drivesafe.

[sclarke]

Folks, this thread seems to be of some genuine interest so I won’t delete all of it but I’ll keep an eye on it.

If the bad language returns then I’ll take stronger action.

KEEP A SOCK IN IT.

drivesafe.

I will keep a sock in it, but why was the quote deleted???
This is becoming a joke when the mods can change what they feel is fit.
I dont believe there was a problem at all.
Matt expressed his opinion. I expressed mine. it was all ok... and Still is ok.

So end of the day, i asked a question, Matt responded, and all is good.

[dobbo]

I will keep a sock in it, but why was the quote deleted???
This is becoming a joke when the mods can change what they feel is fit.
I dont believe there was a problem at all.
Matt expressed his opinion. I expressed mine. it was all ok... and Still is ok.

So end of the day, i asked a question, Matt responded, and all is good.

I feel the mention of loose shunts in the shunting yard upset Timmy's dinner.

You know being a QLDer and all that.

[drivesafe]

I will keep a sock in it, but why was the quote deleted???

Hi sclarke, the quote had unacceptable language in it but to simplify things, in future, I will just remove the whole post.

Cheers.

[100I]

I have also been following this with interest (just had nothing usefull to contribute), so don't marry lack of response with lack of interest Matt. And would appreciate it remaining largely intact;), perhaps the offending 2 words could have just been asterixed, it's a little dis-jointed now.

[sclarke]

Hi sclarke, the quote had unacceptable language in it but to simplify things, in future, I will just remove the whole post.

Cheers.

Sorry, i missed that part.... the language thing... it could have just had ** placed there instead... then the thread would have made sence.....
Now it looks like there was a mexican fight..

[rovercare]

Well yesterday, got the exhaust done....temporarily, very temp, so no pics:D

All seems well, just the fan wants moving back a little and its gutless:D

Got a scabby old Quadrajet and stuck the original 200impco of the side, the carb has holes everywhere and sticky butterflys:mad:

Got a recoed then pulled of for a holley, quady coming to work tomorrow for 100 beer tickets, then I can get some timing in it without raising the idle to much (because bytteflys wont clos) and set it up to run fuel before we head bush this weekend:eek:,

troubles? well it wouldn't start without leaking vac, stop the leak and no go?? well it konked out pulling up with the 3.9 on gas, so just switched to fuel then yanked so didn't think into it, pulled the mixer apart and the little regulating bit on the diaphragm had dropped off:mad:, stick it back together and all is well, everything except the tach is all good and no shakes/rattles/knocks, and thank god the auto works fine after dropping the pump off:)

So carby and low pressure pump in, tomorrow night after work, then I'll tune it wednesday before night shift and we're done:D

[Rangier Rover]

Well yesterday, got the exhaust done....temporarily, very temp, so no pics:D

All seems well, just the fan wants moving back a little and its gutless:D

Got a scabby old Quadrajet and stuck the original 200impco of the side, the carb has holes everywhere and sticky butterflys:mad:

Got a recoed then pulled of for a holley, quady coming to work tomorrow for 100 beer tickets, then I can get some timing in it without raising the idle to much (because bytteflys wont clos) and set it up to run fuel before we head bush this weekend:eek:,

troubles? well it wouldn't start without leaking vac, stop the leak and no go?? well it konked out pulling up with the 3.9 on gas, so just switched to fuel then yanked so didn't think into it, pulled the mixer apart and the little regulating bit on the diaphragm had dropped off:mad:, stick it back together and all is well, everything except the tach is all good and no shakes/rattles/knocks, and thank god the auto works fine after dropping the pump off:)

So carby and low pressure pump in, tomorrow night after work, then I'll tune it wednesday before night shift and we're done:DShould run like a swiss watch soon with good carby and mixer.;) Has it got a duel advance curve moduel?:confused: To help tune on LPG.

[rovercare]

Should run like a swiss watch soon with good carby and mixer.;) Has it got a duel advance curve moduel?:confused: To help tune on LPG.

No, just crane fireball, he can put premium in if he runs petrol:D

and its no real drama if you need to run crap fuel as a simple twist of the dizzy will stop it rattleing:eek:

[Rangier Rover]

No, just crane fireball, he can put premium in if he runs petrol:D

and its no real drama if you need to run crap fuel as a simple twist of the dizzy will stop it rattleing:eek:
Ahh I see. We call them a hand grenade engine!:p:D;):angel:

[rovercare]

Ahh I see. We call them a hand grenade engine!:p:D;):angel:

Likely hood of killing a low comp chev from pinging, mmmmmmmmmm let me think, nil:angel:

Maybe if it had 12:1 comp and revved to 7.ooorpm's:D

[Rangier Rover]

Likely hood of killing a low comp chev from pinging, mmmmmmmmmm let me think, nil:angel:

Maybe if it had 12:1 comp and revved to 7.ooorpm's:DFair call!:) I'm used to clevo's:eek:

[rovercare]

Fair call!:) I'm used to clevo's:eek:

So am I, or windsor's, same thing, until you got lots of compression its hard to hurt one:o

[Rangier Rover]

So am I, or windsor's, same thing, until you got lots of compression its hard to hurt one:oI have had a few 351's come in with 302 heads:o. They seem a bit tender in the big ends.: They hate Low Octane(I have one here ported with 4V Valves Elbrock manifold etc. :twisted: Would look good in my Rangie!
Did you have to change Sump and oil pick up on the 350 to clear the diff? It would be the case with Clevo.:)

[rovercare]

I have had a few 351's come in with 302 heads:o. They seem a bit tender in the big ends.: They hate Low Octane(I have one here ported with 4V Valves Elbrock manifold etc. :twisted: Would look good in my Rangie!
Did you have to change Sump and oil pick up on the 350 to clear the diff? It would be the case with Clevo.:)

No, already rear drop, was already out of an RR actually

Just use a truck sump on the cleveland, although they're big:eek:

I had a windsor in my Rangie tray....actually I had 3:D

[rovercare]

Well a new issue this weekend away, the front pinion flange hit the starter motor:eek:, be fine if it was a rover diff, but its a HP Tojo front and its a big ass starter:D, will do some measureing and probably just extend the bumpstops a touch, till a smaller starter pops up

[Rangier Rover]

Well a new issue this weekend away, the front pinion flange hit the starter motor:eek:, be fine if it was a rover diff, but its a HP Tojo front and its a big ass starter:D, will do some measureing and probably just extend the bumpstops a touch, till a smaller starter pops up I allways said Toymotors were clumsy:D;) Had this happen with P76 starter (Solenoid faces down). What a downer:(. May as well shorten shock turrets as well to get more down travel.:twisted: Then the springs will fall out and brake lines will hang:o

[rovercare]

I allways said Toymotors were clumsy:D;) Had this happen with P76 starter (Solenoid faces down). What a downer:(. May as well shorten shock turrets as well to get more down travel.:twisted: Then the springs will fall out and brake lines will hang:o

Short term measure.........well maybe long term for Prodzy:D

[rovercare]

On a lighter note, I got the jag auto changing correctly today:D, so now I can cut hole in the firewall and wire it properly:eek:

But back to work tomorrow:mad:

[Rangier Rover]

Anything like some of my projects a short term cure can be 10 yrs:o:D

[Rangier Rover]

On a lighter note, I got the jag auto changing correctly today:D, so now I can cut hole in the firewall and wire it properly:eek:

But back to work tomorrow:mad: Work can get in the way:(
Please post up a pic of the Jag when near done. I love these old things:cool:

[rovercare]

Work can get in the way:(
Please post up a pic of the Jag when near done. I love these old things:cool:

Yea I spose I can, but she's a bit of a beater:( He definately could have picked a better example;)

[Rangier Rover]

Yea I spose I can, but she's a bit of a beater:( He definately could have picked a better example;)
Nothing 10kg of filler and a dulux overhall wont fix:p:D. Just a pic of the engine bay:)

[rovercare]

Nothing 10kg of filler and a dulux overhall wont fix:p:D. Just a pic of the engine bay:)

He, ummm, has, kinda,,,umm,,,,,,,,,painted it:(

[Rangier Rover]

He, ummm, has, kinda,,,umm,,,,,,,,,painted it:( Oh no....:eek: this does not sound good;) well, the engine should look good:D

[rovercare]

Oh no....:eek: this does not sound good;) well, the engine should look good:D

Wouldn't say its a road rocket, but these things sound horn, tougher than a rover V8:eek:

[rovercare]

Well the Jag is done, aside form a new speedo and tacho being built:)

Th Disco should be out next week after a new exhaust, will get extended bump stops, tacho working, need to set base timing and check mechanical advance, runs out of puff on both fuels, even if you advance it heaps and then it'll get a dyno tune and hopefully its all aces from there:eek:

Buy the way, just for the people who cry about wieght difference, I asked , so how's it drive?.........The same why?;)

[Vern]

He, ummm, has, kinda,,,umm,,,,,,,,,painted it:(Witnessed it on the weekend, well what can i say but a blind man could have done it:eek:

[Rangier Rover]

Witnessed it on the weekend, well what can i say but a blind man could have done it:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Vern]

Yeah a bit ordinary in the paint department, would think that your going to go to the effort with the engine that when you paint it you would atleast put some effort into it:)

[Rangier Rover]

Could have been a nice car:) At least the engine will be nice:twisted:

[Rangier Rover]

Well the Jag is done, aside form a new speedo and tacho being built:)

Th Disco should be out next week after a new exhaust, will get extended bump stops, tacho working, need to set base timing and check mechanical advance, runs out of puff on both fuels, even if you advance it heaps and then it'll get a dyno tune and hopefully its all aces from there:eek:

Buy the way, just for the people who cry about wieght difference, I asked , so how's it drive?.........The same why?;)
Any pics of the Jag. (err engine bay):D

[rangieman]

Any pics of the Jag. (err engine bay):D

Mmmm another request for proof of life , dont forget the newspaper, pick ya game up mat:p:wasntme::D

[sclarke]

Mmmm another request for proof of life , dont forget the newspaper, pick ya game up mat:p:wasntme::D

We dont need proof, its only a Jag.....ROFL....

[Rangier Rover]

We dont need proof, its only a Jag.....ROFL....
;););)Jags can have charm:D Bit like a County:p

[rangieman]

;););)Jags can have charm:D Bit like a County:p
spot on :BigThumb:

[PeterM]

All this talk of engine conversions is giving me bad ideas. STOP IT!

I've already sussed out that a VS/VT (pref VT) 5.0L will slot in easily and provide that little extra go with very little effort and improved economy.

[Rangier Rover]

All this talk of engine conversions is giving me bad ideas. STOP IT!

I've already sussed out that a VS/VT (pref VT) 5.0L will slot in easily and provide that little extra go with very little effort and improved economy.
Bring em on:twisted::D

[rovercare]

Probably should have updated this, it got run on the dyno and the 225 mixer wouldn;t cut the mustard, so is now fitted with a 300A high flow, made 98KW at the bags and good strong tractive effort

Also mate bought a $90 starter of ebay, thats half the size and along with rangie bumstops it clears well, so all is well

Old mate took his Jag before I left for Tas and hasn;t called so must be happy:D

[rovercare]

All this talk of engine conversions is giving me bad ideas. STOP IT!

I've already sussed out that a VS/VT (pref VT) 5.0L will slot in easily and provide that little extra go with very little effort and improved economy.

I know where a VQ 5l stato is for 2k, still being driven, I may even know someone who can arrange fitting:angel:

[Rangier Rover]

I was only thinking last night it was time to liven up this thread but you beat me to it;)

[Geeman]

hey Rovercare, sorry to bring this old thread up again, but what engine mounts did you use? Did you have have to cut off the old ones and weld in new mounts?