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drivesafe
2nd March 2008, 01:23 PM
So reckon cars can tailgate.
Check this out, the first pic is the rear end of a C-130, the rest you can work out for yourself
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/671.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/672.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/673.jpg
Disco_owner
2nd March 2008, 01:31 PM
Awesome pics Drivesafe , just goes to show the Skill of these Pilots involved , The Midair fueling is also really amazing how they bring the plain straight up to the Fuel Bowser and hook on keep the plain steady till fueling is completed.
abaddonxi
2nd March 2008, 01:45 PM
Looks like a film crew to me.
Arri 435 camera
on an O'conner head with a moy base
on a wedge plate
onto a three-way leveller
on a tripod hi-hat base
But that'd be guessing.:p
Cheers
Simon
rangieman
2nd March 2008, 01:51 PM
Wow :eek:
abaddonxi
2nd March 2008, 01:54 PM
There might be a couple planes in there, too, but that's just the set.:D
Cheers
Simon
paulthepilot_5
2nd March 2008, 02:00 PM
Great shots there!
You wouldn't want to drop your wallet :eek:
drivesafe
2nd March 2008, 02:17 PM
Great shots there!
You wouldn't want to drop your wallet :eek:
That’s what got me, with the jet’s intakes so close, how does it get enough air?
carjunkieanon
2nd March 2008, 02:19 PM
Looks like a new technique to change pilots mid-flight. Fly into the back of a bigger plane, swap pilots then reverse out. An airborne aircraft carrier.
Amazing skill.
My Dad knew a few fighter pilots. They reckon that their heart rate was higher lining up to and doing mid-air refueling than during dogfights.
rick
LandyAndy
2nd March 2008, 03:44 PM
Nice pics.
Fill er up and wash the bugs off the screen mate!!!!
Andrew
drivesafe
2nd March 2008, 05:00 PM
I forwarded the E-mail on to a mate and as usual, just to take the fun out of things, he picked that the clouds were MUCH BIGGER in the last pic so there is a good chance it’s more down to a good telephoto lens then to a close parking arrangement.
Still amazing though
abaddonxi
2nd March 2008, 07:22 PM
I forwarded the E-mail on to a mate and as usual, just to take the fun out of things, he picked that the clouds were MUCH BIGGER in the last pic so there is a good chance it’s more down to a good telephoto lens then to a close parking arrangement.
Still amazing though
But close enough for the pilot to be taking arm wave directions from the assistant director.
Cheers
Simon
CraigE
3rd March 2008, 08:25 AM
Awesome pics, wether through a tele lens or not.
:D:D
dobbo
3rd March 2008, 08:43 AM
That’s what got me, with the jet’s intakes so close, how does it get enough air?
or stall for that matter,
Is it's real? Admittedly I am no expert in Jets or aircraft but it just doesn't gel with me.
Lionel
3rd March 2008, 09:07 AM
or stall for that matter,
Is it's real? Admittedly I am no expert in Jets or aircraft but it just doesn't gel with me.
Yes, this type of manouevre IS real! I saw this being done from the ground, as the 2 planes flew over. At the time I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but then the TV news was full of it that evening, complete with the footage from the camera.
The 2 aircraft are only a few metres apart!
Cheers,
Lionel
dobbo
3rd March 2008, 09:42 AM
Yes, this type of manouevre IS real! I saw this being done from the ground, as the 2 planes flew over. At the time I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but then the TV news was full of it that evening, complete with the footage from the camera.
The 2 aircraft are only a few metres apart!
Cheers,
Lionel
What was the difference in altitude between the two you witnessed though? Like I said before I am no expert but I do not think any armed force would risk their crews, planes or allow film crews to be that close to a running jet intake mid flight. A few metres altitude difference, a decent zoom lens and some creative photography can make all the difference in capturing that shot, or an imaging program.
Lionel
3rd March 2008, 10:32 AM
What was the difference in altitude between the two you witnessed though? Like I said before I am no expert but I do not think any armed force would risk their crews, planes or allow film crews to be that close to a running jet intake mid flight. A few metres altitude difference, a decent zoom lens and some creative photography can make all the difference in capturing that shot, or an imaging program.
The difference in altitude was VERY little from the ground. Only a couple of metres. Enough, I would think, to allow the jet intakes to be in relatively clear air underneath the ramp.
From where I was on the ground, it looked as if the aircraft were almost touching, and it was the actual video footage that put the thing in perspective for me.
Quite how this all squares with ATC rules on separation etc., I don't know. Maybe the RAAF have some exemptions.
I remember being completely gobsmacked at the time!
Cheers,
Lionel
dmdigital
3rd March 2008, 04:57 PM
Yep, they look photoshopped to me.
Lionel
3rd March 2008, 06:58 PM
Yep, they look photoshopped to me.
I'm sorry, but these photos look EXACTLY the same perspective as the news video footage I saw on the evening after I observed the thing from the ground. Could well be from the same shoot.
They would have had to photoshop a HELL of a lot of frames!!
Cheers,
Lionel
weeds
3rd March 2008, 07:48 PM
Like I said before I am no expert but I do not think any armed force would risk their crews, planes or allow film crews to be that close to a running jet intake mid flight.
umm brings back memories.....well the equipment might not have been expensive we still put it at risk, was good to be young
what makes you think it was an approved activity
Hymie
3rd March 2008, 08:26 PM
I forwarded the E-mail on to a mate and as usual, just to take the fun out of things, he picked that the clouds were MUCH BIGGER in the last pic so there is a good chance it’s more down to a good telephoto lens then to a close parking arrangement.
Still amazing though
I'm not sure of that. the ramp on the Herc visually obscures the Intake on the Fighter. Looks pretty genuine to me.
simonl8353
3rd March 2008, 08:43 PM
Just for info, the jet is a Eurofighter Typhoon, developed by Europe’s leading aerospace companies, and ordered by Germany, Italy, Spain, United Kingdom, Austria and Saudi Arabia, with 707 aircraft under contract to these six Nations.
It is finally in full production Phew! I was an apprentice in '82 at British Aerospace, Hamble, UK and making the aluminium alloy cockpit components around the windscreen frames on a Gambin milling machine for the two prototypes then called EAP's (Experimental Aircraft Program)...I'm 44 now! These things really take some time to develop.
The Discovery wasnt even in production then!
Lionel
3rd March 2008, 08:45 PM
what makes you think it was an approved activity
Well, it was certainly well publicised in the Melbourne media at the time. It would have been about 6-8 years ago, I would think. There was footage of the fighter slowly approaching the C130 from the rear and taking up the position very close to the loading ramp, and remaining there for some minutes.
From the ground (my apartment balcony, actually), I saw the 2 aircraft fly over South Melbourne, heading out over Port Phillip bay, in a roughly southerly direction, and by the time I saw them the relative positions of the 2 aircraft were stable, as the final photo from drivesafe shows them.
Even through binoculars they looked BLOODY close to each other.
Cheers,
Lionel
simonl8353
3rd March 2008, 09:25 PM
Check this out, Eurofighter made this 8 min commercial of the Typhoon to play at airshows, it incorporates several of the filming from the rear of the C-130.
Eurofighter Typhoon, nothing comes close Air Force Videos Military Videos Defense News | Defence Forum | Military Pictures | Weapons - DefenceTalk (http://www.defencetalk.com/military_videos/air_force_videos/eurofighter_typhoon_nothing_comes_close_20061002.p hp)
Apparently during the filming, the directer was calling the pilot to move closer and closer, the pilot got fed up and shot forward saying, "how about this close" (apparently)
I'd be fairly certain this was not shot in Australia. Although replicated here, I believe, with a F/A-18 Hornet a while ago.
Specifications of the Eurofighter Typhoon F2
Engines: 2 Eurojet EJ200 turbojets Thrust: 20,000lbs Max speed: 2Mach
Max altitude: 65,000ft, Length: 15.96m Span: 11.09m
Armament: AMRAAM, ASRAAM, Brimstone, Storm Shadow, Enhanced Paveway, Paveway IV.
I want one. :)
paulthepilot_5
3rd March 2008, 09:50 PM
That’s what got me, with the jet’s intakes so close, how does it get enough air?
The aircraft is a few meters below the deck of the herc. An absolute must in any line astern formation is to remain below the altitude of the aircraft in front. If you get in the wake from the aircraft in front the brown stuff really starts to hit the fan :eek: :wacko:
matbor
4th March 2008, 09:03 AM
speaking of planes, did u see this !!
Watch German jet's near crash
2008-03-04 08:16:43
German airline Lufthansa has praised two of its pilots for averting a crash while trying to land in a violent storm.(01:30)
http://media.theage.com.au/?rid=36001
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