Why cant I simply be Australian

[HAK]

Hi All

Just curious on who here is first generation Australian.

For example my Dad been an Australian now for 40 plus years and mum 33 years I was born here

Just curious as I was speaking to Anglo Saxon bloke he asked what nationality I was, I said Aussie, he said no your not. I said what I'm I then he said a wog of some sort mmmmmmmm

what gets up my nose is that ethic origan people here in Australia are always reminded that if you can not call your self Australian or behave as expected off one, then P off, and I agree

but why cant I call my self Australian and that be that or simply asked what is your ancestral origan

So I thought I would ask here how many member and LR lovers are fresh of the boat Aussies or first generation Aussies

[justinc]

You shouldn't hang about with Right wing extremists then...:p An Anglo Saxon bloke calling you a wog of some sort??? Sounds like a scene from a russel crowe movie about follicularly challenged thugs...

Anyway, I'm a brit, been here for over 35 years, and I'd prefer to call this country my home as I'm embarrassed by some of the 'home'country's behaviour over the years!. :D:D:D

Can't you tell?? I Luuurrve my landies!!:p:p:p


JC

[numpty]

First generation Aussie like yourself. My parents came out as 10 pound tourists on a boat from the Old Dart in 1949 with my older brother and sister and I was the first of our clan born here. Apart from my sister, the others were neutralised about 20 something years ago.

[Bushie]

I stepped off a boat at Wooloomooloo 39 years ago, I've even got a bit of paper that says I'm aussie.

5 in my family, four born here but I'm the one with a bit of paper. :D:D


Martyn

[HAK]

I just cant bring my self around calling some one Australian if they cant call me one I suppose ;);) oh and you mean romper stomper :p

[justinc]

I just cant bring my self around calling some one Australian if they cant call me one I suppose ;);) oh and you mean romper stomper :p

Yeah, never saw the movie, the previews disgusted me, thats why I didn't mention the title...:(

I really feel the 'Australian' is bred into you by your environment and your behaviour toward other inhabitants of this land.

As I said, I haven't really had any probs being accepted here, I have fitted in well as a child through the school system etc, and feel very at home here contributing to the community as an adult. Having said this, I am not from any ethnic background, therefore It isn't suprising I haven't copped any flack at school for being the 'wrong' colour etc.:mad:
Humans can make me sick sometimes!!!:mad:

(This could end up being moved to the rants section soon...I'll shut up now!)


JC

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I stepped off a boat at Wooloomooloo 39 years ago, I've even got a bit of paper that says I'm aussie.

5 in my family, four born here but I'm the one with a bit of paper. :D:D

Martyn
Martyn

Is that like the only people who are legally sane are the people who have discharge papers from the mental asylum? :D:D:D:D

I have a very good friend who is 5th generation Aussie of Asian decent. He can not speak a word of Chinese and neither can his parents but still he gets called a boat person.

There are some very ignorant people in this world, you only have to look a Kosovo. At least we aren't as ignorant as the Americans who add the country of ethnic decent to American - even when it happened hundreds of years ago. It only goes to prolong the ignorance.

Then there is the opposite effect -people like "Aussie Joe" Bugner, who is an immigrant (or should I use the term of the day back then "A new Australian".)

Rovernit - you are Aussie to me! :) :)

Diana :) (4th generation Aussie of Anglo-Celtic decent.)

P.S. even if you were one of the original Australians, a woman or fat, ignorant people would find some insult to throw.

[stevo68]

First generation Aussie like yourself. My parents came out as 10 pound tourists on a boat from the Old Dart in 1949 with my older brother and sister and I was the first of our clan born here. Apart from my sister, the others were neutralised about 20 something years ago. :eek::p,

Regards

Stevo

[stevo68]

Hmm, this topic has me thinking as to what I am. Dad is English, arrived here 47 yrs ago and Mum is Australian....what does that make me. In one aspect I am first generation, but in another I am many generations Aussie :eek:. Also it works in reverse, many yrs ago a new neighbour moved in, had come over from England. One day chatting over the fence and he asked me what part of England did I come from :eek::eek:, told him no part, Im an Aussie through and through.


P.S. even if you were one of the original Australians, a woman or fat, ignorant people would find some insult to throw. Ditto, ignoramus's abound, try having c.o.c.k in your surname :D,

Regards

Stevo

[Anya45]

Hi All

Just curious on who here is first generation Australian.

For example my Dad been an Australian now for 40 plus years and mum 33 years I was born here

Just curious as I was speaking to Anglo Saxon bloke he asked what nationality I was, I said Aussie, he said no your not. I said what I'm I then he said a wog of some sort mmmmmmmm

what gets up my nose is that ethic origan people here in Australia are always reminded that if you can not call your self Australian or behave as expected off one, then P off, and I agree

but why cant I call my self Australian and that be that or simply asked what is your ancestral origan

So I thought I would ask here how many member and LR lovers are fresh of the boat Aussies or first generation Aussies


There is no excuse for this behavior, but it does make the rest of us look good :cool:

Just as long as you remember you are whoever or whatever you choose to be, regardless of the plonkers in the peanut gallery :twisted: that life forces us to come across.

Regards

[Vern]

Convict blood here on one side, the other i don't know, goes back atleast 5 generations

[numpty]

Hmm, this topic has me thinking as to what I am. Dad is English, arrived here 47 yrs ago and Mum is Australian....what does that make me. In one aspect I am first generation, but in another I am many generations Aussie :eek:. Also it works in reverse, many yrs ago a new neighbour moved in, had come over from England. One day chatting over the fence and he asked me what part of England did I come from :eek::eek:, told him no part, Im an Aussie through and through.

Ditto, ignoramus's abound, try having c.o.c.k in your surname :D,

Regards

Stevo

Know what you mean. My wife stepped off the same boat as Bushie, and she also has been neutralised (that's what I mean;)), but I consider our children as second generation, which I believe to be correct.

[CraigE]

IMHO anyone that comes here and respects our laws, history and language and trys to fit in can call themselves an Aussie. Anyone who wants to come here and change laws more suited to where they came from and their religion can leave. Not for a minute saying they can not believe in their religion etc, but must abide by our culture etc.
And I am a 6th gen Aussie.
:D

[CraigE]

Know what you mean. My wife stepped off the same boat as Bushie, and she also has been neutralised (that's what I mean;)), but I consider our children as second generation, which I believe to be correct.
Generally in genealogical terms it is worked of your paternal history. But hey if either parent is Aussie and you are born here I have no objection with anyone calling themselves 2nd gen.
:D

[dullbird]

Know what you mean.
My wife stepped off the same boat as Bushie, and she also has been neutralised (that's what I mean;)), but I consider our children as second generation, which I believe to be correct.

weren't you allowed razors on board:eek::eek::eek::eek::wasntme:

[Sprint]

born here, dads a pom, mums a philippino....... and i'll happily get in a blue with anyone who says im not australian..... you just have to ignore the british passport that comes bundled with the australian one.....

[Mudnut]

I have been here 15 years now, and am now an Australian Citizen. Sometimes I get hassled about being a "Yank". To those people, I say I'm Australian, but I was raised overseas.;) Seems to stop any further hassles.
I have lived in many different countries, from the Bahamas, to here, and this is where I choose to live and raise my family with my wife. I'm here because I want to be here!! This is the lucky country, and I love it.

Cheers,
Ken

[Utemad]

I'm about 5th generation Australian on Dad's side (Germany) and I think 3rd on Mum's (England/Ireland).

However I get asked a lot (especially when I was at school) where I came from. People have said Spain/Greece/Turkey etc. Even people from those countries!

Plus when I was in New Zealand last some Kiwis we were talking to in Palmerston North didn't believe I was Australian as I didn't have an Australian accent (never lived outside of SE Qld). That's just stink ;)

I remember an Asian girl at school that looked like any other Asian girl. The first time I heard her speak she had a real oka accent and couldn't speak a word of anything except English.

So long as you have the birth certificate or citizenship papers then you are an Aussie. Hopefully, regardless of how you became an Aussie, you will uphold the values that make this Nation great.

[Utemad]

I should add that we have a fair few Kiwis at work (actually all bar two have left recently).

One of them has gotten the piece of paper and is an Aussie but we don't mind. We still include him in the sheep jokes :D

Although he tells more than we do sometimes :)

[Redback]

First generation here too, i'm a bit of a Celtic MUT, Irish, Scottish, Welsh and Brittany in France is my heritage.

Mate don't take it to heart, the Greeks and Italians got some stick when they imigrated here and their now part of our culture, so let it go, YOU know your Australian and by the sounds of it your perants too.

This bloke sound like he's trying to get a responce, don't let them get to ya, it only makes them keep having a go.

Ya sound like an true Aussie to me, just by how you have reacted:thumbsup::beer:

Baz.

[Disco_owner]

We migrated here in 1984 with Mum , Dad stayed back at home land , in 1988 i was Naturalised , although I'm not a first generation Aussie I still see myself as an Australian. I have travelled this Country in my Landy and absolutely loved it. want to do a lot more travelling.

[JDNSW]

I think I rate as third generation - on my father's side my grandfather arrived here in the 1870s as a small boy. On my mother's side her father was born in Australia as were both his parents - one of his grandparents was Granny Smith.

About twenty-five years ago a young woman who worked for me married a Chinese man. Great fuss about it (on the groom's side), as he was the first in the family to marry a non-Chinese, despite the fact that he was fifth generation Australian - the family arrived in Victoria in the 1850s. (He is a very successful engineer, and the marriage is still going strong)
I visited her in hospital just after the birth of their first child, and her husband's grandmother was there at the same time - she did not speak English, despite being born in Australia.

John

[Ricey]

Don't let them bother you Rovernit, some peoples perceptions are just odd and that reflects on them not you. I'm 6th gen here but occasionally get asked if I'm a greek, or where I was from. it's inane banter.

[Utemad]

- she did not speak English, despite being born in Australia.

My aunty's mum was in Australia for about 40-50 years before she died. Didn't speak a word of English. Well maybe one or two but not a sentence.
She was Italian.

[Tango51]

Your an Aussie and I'm sorry that knob affected you.
On the other hand, there are heaps of us who ask everyone about their ancestory, because we are interested.
If an Aussie I ask is happy to tell me about his Irish/Scottish/German ancestory why should you feel any less comfortable to tell about yours?
Honestly Rovernit, don't sweat the pinheads, there is just too many of them and life is way too short.
I love hearing people's stories and I love cultures.
And I don't adhere to the tripe Americanism of Love it or Leave it....blind patriotism never helped any country to improve one iota, there is plenty wrong in all countries, your desire to improve your country should be held precious, not your desire to rebel against making changes.
:cool:

[4bee]

My lot landed at Port Adelaide aboard the Ship, Shackamaxon in 1853 which was 17 years after the founding of Adelaide.

[Landy110]

Call yourself an Aussie mate and call him a yobbo

[stock]

there are two types of people only
not yanks brits greeks etc etc








the IRISH and those that want to be:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[cartm58]

call yourself Australian and you driving a pommy piece of crap instead of genuine aussie made holden ute ought to be ashamed of your lamb chops on the grill in my opinion,

[WhiteD3]

Hi All

Just curious on who here is first generation Australian.

For example my Dad been an Australian now for 40 plus years and mum 33 years I was born here

Just curious as I was speaking to Anglo Saxon bloke he asked what nationality I was, I said Aussie, he said no your not. I said what I'm I then he said a wog of some sort mmmmmmmm

what gets up my nose is that ethic origan people here in Australia are always reminded that if you can not call your self Australian or behave as expected off one, then P off, and I agree

but why cant I call my self Australian and that be that or simply asked what is your ancestral origan

So I thought I would ask here how many member and LR lovers are fresh of the boat Aussies or first generation Aussies

Here's some sage advice. Australia, like many other democratised countries, has its fare share of *******. Ignore them. The fact that they come out with such rubbish just demonstrates their shortcomings, not yours.

[graceysdad]

There will always be a bilge rat somewhere who will try and give you a run, as many here have said they are just *******, My lot fell of the boat in two places in SA one was Encounter Bay the other was Moonta my mum ancestors were miners from Cornwall who came out here to have a go, doesnt matter when or where, your an Aussie, stuff the *******.

[HAK]

I was brought up in the lower years of school in Marrickville one of the so called Wog part of NSW then in the Chipping Norton Predominately Anglo backed round students, I copped heaps of slack there but kids are kids and ignorance is hand me down sometimes. but I held my own :(

I remember being 19 and going into town for new years with a few mate, mix culture. We where jumped by middle eastern appearance thugs as the fight went on I could here screaming stop stop he is one of us they assumed I was of middle eastern appearance so they stopped the fight :o

So there is racial hatred in the country which is so sad and it cuts me up to an extent :eek:

its funny as I listen to all sorts of music from classical opera to heavy metal and Turkish music when I blair Turkish music with out doubt I get a bunch of Anglo youths look at me wearied but often turn away however the opposite when I play Metalica of the sort its people of usual middle eastern appearance that look at me in a weird way also :cool:

My wife also is a bitza English French and German decent who knows what else

As most of you have said love this country and would wear Aussie pride on my back any day but racial hatred has to stop you and us business does any body else ever get this

Anglo folks do you get paranoid when you see bunch of blokes of Middle eastern or Asian appearance and if there are any Middle eastern or Asian dissented blokes here do you feel that you get looked at with paranoia

I think I better stop listening to 2GB now there a rasist mob

[procrastination inc]

romper stomper was meant to disgust.

It was also meant to be discussed...

It is a commentary on contemporary racism and its potential to flair through ideologically motivated, messed up, disenfranchised mainstreamers.

For those who feel oppressed in their homeland, justified or not, revolution is a stones throw away.

[RobHay]

First generation Aussie like yourself. My parents came out as 10 pound tourists on a boat from the Old Dart in 1949 with my older brother and sister and I was the first of our clan born here. Apart from my sister, the others were neutralised about 20 something years ago.

Perry ya need to check ya spelling, I had my cat neutered, so you trying to tell us that ya whole family have taken after my moggy

[amtravic1]

As far as I am concerned if a person is happy to call themselves Australian no matter what ethnic background they have or how long they have here then that is great. Being Australian means accepting Australias values, traditions and laws. I dont care whether the person has been here for a day or for generations if they accept the Aussie way of life.
What I dislike is those people who come to Australia, have all the benefits of the Australian way of life but still themselves some other nationality.

Ian

[rick130]

fifth generation Irish convict blood on paternal side, (with some Welsh and German in there too. The German history is saucy :lol2:) as well as rumoured indigenous blood.
Maternal side second generation English, (although GrandDad was born in London, he was only a few months old when he came here and was fiercely Australian) fifth generation Anglo Saxon on maternal grandmothers side

Yet I've copped all my life.....
"where do you come from ?" I'm an Aussie. "no, where are you from?" here "you're not" yes I am, I was born here "where were your parents born ?" here. "Grandparents ?" and so on.
Hell, I've had Italian's try to talk to me in Italian (I can only swear :p) Spaniards and Greeks the same, yet at High School, my nickname was 'Boong' :D
Don't worry about it. It makes the world interesting. ;)

[Redback]

Myself i think that uncomfortable feeling is more of a being around strangers type feeling, i get that feeling being around any strangers no matter what background they are.

Baz.

[rick130]

Perry ya need to check ya spelling, I had my cat neutered, so you trying to tell us that ya whole family have taken after my moggy

Naa, we call it Neutralised too. One of my best mates was born in the old Dart, but the whole family were neutralised when he was still at school. As Chris says, they all had to have lobotomies to fit in :p

[Redback]

fifth generation Irish convict blood on paternal side, (with some Welsh in there too) as well as rumoured indigenous blood.
So, after all that, I'm tall and very very dark "possibly of Southern or eastern Mediterranean appearance "would be the Police description.

I've copped it all my life.....
"where do you come from ?" I'm an Aussie. "no, where are you from?" here "you're not" yes I am, I was born here "where were your parents born ?" here. "Grandparents ?" and so on.
Hell, I've had Italian's try to talk to me in Italian (I can only swear :p) Spaniards and Greeks the same, yet at school, my nickname was 'Boong' :D
Don't worry about it. It makes the world interesting. ;)

Now there's a coincidence, that was my knickname at school and i don't have an indigenous background (lots of time at the beach)

I think the most important thing is how your friends and family see you, as long as you have friends that like you for who you are, then that's all that matters.

Baz.

[Gooner]

Definition of 'aussie' according to my simple mind is ...

"If you will stand beside me and defend Australia, you're an Aussie."

Nothing else matters I reckon.

[Redback]

Definition of 'aussie' according to my simple mind is ...

"If you will stand beside me and defend Australia, you're an Aussie."

Nothing else matters I reckon.

We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties.

Peter Lawler
Eureka Stockade

[Reads90]

Hi All


So I thought I would ask here how many member and LR lovers are fresh of the boat Aussies or first generation Aussies


i don't know about fresh of the boat but fresh of the plane is more like me :):)

But joking aside
I have been here 3 years in November. And will be able to apply for citizenship then . And i will be doing that
After all we are having a child here in August who will be Australian. My wife is Born and breed Brisbane , But her mother is english , so is technically our child would be 3/4 english and 1/4 Aussie. But we don't care about that the child would be born in Aus and will be Aussie Same as my wife when she grew up . Her parents are the same as us but the other way round . Her mother is english and her Dad Is an Aussie

I am going back to the Uk in April and do not call the Uk home anymore. Did when i went back 2 years ago. But now my wife, my Child soon, my house and dogs are all here and home is now here in Australia

[CraigE]

There will always be a bilge rat somewhere who will try and give you a run, as many here have said they are just *******, My lot fell of the boat in two places in SA one was Encounter Bay the other was Moonta my mum ancestors were miners from Cornwall who came out here to have a go, doesnt matter when or where, your an Aussie, stuff the *******.
A lot of my ancestors came in through Wallaroo, the cemetary up there is an interesting walk.:D

[CraigE]

There is nothing wrong with refering to ones ancestry in jovial terms and though we are Aussie should be proud of where we came from before here.
:D:D
Its when your ancestry is refered to in derogatory terms it is down right offensive.
:mad:
All you Aussie wogs, spits, chings, poms etc be proud to be called as such by your heritage, it throws people if you are not offended.
;)

[Reads90]

I get the pi** ripped out of me for being a pom at times , But then point out that i have seen alot more of Aus than a lot of Aussie. Normal shuts them up :):)

[87County]

Hi All

Just curious on who here is first generation Australian.

For example my Dad been an Australian now for 40 plus years and mum 33 years I was born here

Just curious as I was speaking to Anglo Saxon bloke he asked what nationality I was, I said Aussie, he said no your not. I said what I'm I then he said a wog of some sort mmmmmmmm

what gets up my nose is that ethic origan people here in Australia are always reminded that if you can not call your self Australian or behave as expected off one, then P off, and I agree

but why cant I call my self Australian and that be that or simply asked what is your ancestral origan

So I thought I would ask here how many member and LR lovers are fresh of the boat Aussies or first generation Aussies

my 20 cents worth:

whether or not you can call yourself an Aussie does not depend on parentage, pedigree, skin colour, belief system, accent, etc....

but rather its character, honesty, integrity, loyalty and attitude towards others and for yourself that counts for me ...

definitely not including the judgementalism demonstrated by the above AngloSaxon bloke - (after all, if thats what he is, people of that lineage were mere imposters & invaders in their turn upon the true Britons)

Laurie

[Lionel]

Ditto, ignoramus's abound, try having c.o.c.k in your surname :D,


My late father used to work with a very energetic and successful salesman called Richard Cock.

He used to deal with it by introducing himself thus:

"Hi, my name's Cock - Dick Cock! I'm easy to find in the phonebook - I'm the only Cock in Oakleigh!"

I heard him say this myself, and have always remembered it, even though I was only a kid at the time.

Cheers,

Lionel

[Lucas]

my 20 cents worth:

whether or not you can call yourself an Aussie does not depend on parentage, pedigree, skin colour, belief system, accent, etc....

but rather its character, honesty, integrity, loyalty and attitude towards others and for yourself that counts for me ...

definitely not including the judgementalism demonstrated by the above AngloSaxon bloke - (after all, if thats what he is, people of that lineage were mere imposters & invaders in their turn upon the true Britons)

Laurie

Laurie sums it up well. I am first gen. Asian Dad, British Mum.

[RoverOne]

6th generation Australian of German mostly and a little Irish/English.

Never had to realy explain where I was from, but my German surname occasionaly use to require "where originaly were your family from", blues eyes & fair hair always helped not having to explain.

I often ask someone what are their origins "if" they stand out with some unpronouncable name, just because I'm curious and I've never felt anyone was offended that I'd asked, actualy only too keen to explain.

I have a mate thats 6th generation Aussie/Chinese, looks Chinese but speaks worse ocka than me, also married a very blond Australian girl.

My wife when young (German/Irish) always was taken for Italian, very thick long black hair & great tanned skin which only amused her when she wasn't believed she wasn't Italy.

Rovernit, as for the Anglo/Saxon bloke if he dug deep enough he probably isn't & he's a tosser to doubt your word anyway.

For the record I'm for "Unless you love it... leave it", why else would you be here then unless to wreck what we have...like freedom to drive our Landies most places, bag Pomms & some sort of freedom of speech etc etc.