My MG just failed the bullbar laws..

[Tusker]

In getting this back on the road after 30 plus years, it failed the blue slip today.

Partly because the front bumper mounts protrude forward of the bodywork ala the thumbnail. Its really annoying. This thing has never had a prang (when they normally get removed) , and I'll be damned if I'm cutting the chassis extensions now.

Looks as though I'll have to get a nudge bar made up. Grr.

Regards
Max P

[BigJon]

Yep, just another lethal pedestrian killer... :p

[Lotz-A-Landies]

At least it will "run under" all but toddlers.

[Mick-Kelly]

Do you have a front bumper to fit?

[Tusker]

Do you have a front bumper to fit?

Not sure, gotta go exploring the darkest corners under the house tonight. Its been a long time, but I think it came with something rusty.

Regards
Max P

[rovercare]

You've had it tucked away for 30+ years?:eek:

[Tusker]

The bumper, yes. And all that other unnecessary paraphenalia like wipers..

This was the first car I ever bought, in 1977. Its been a race car most of the time since, & now its going back on the road, with full rego.

[GuyG]

You've had it tucked away for 30+ years?:eek:

We picked up a 1923 Fiat 501 in 87 that had been on blocks for 50 years:eek:. Its been sitting on blocks under our house ever since:o must get back to restoring it:D

[loanrangie]

We picked up a 1923 Fiat 501 in 87 that had been on blocks for 50 years:eek:. Its been sitting on blocks under our house ever since:o must get back to restoring it:D

Yes you should, used to know a guy who had a 1939 Lincoln Zephyr V12 in a shed that had been there 40 odd years - its rare as hens teeth.

[Slunnie]

In getting this back on the road after 30 plus years, it failed the blue slip today.

Partly because the front bumper mounts protrude forward of the bodywork ala the thumbnail. Its really annoying. This thing has never had a prang (when they normally get removed) , and I'll be damned if I'm cutting the chassis extensions now.

Looks as though I'll have to get a nudge bar made up. Grr.

Regards
Max P
Thats stupid Max, I'd got to another blueslipper. I would expect those laws not to be retrospective like every other revision.

[mudmouse]

I thought the 'front protrusion' laws were for add on stuff - bull bars, rod holders, lights, aerial mounts etc.

Did the inspector say it failed (partly) just because the front bar wasn't fitted?? I had the same knock back years ago on a falcon coupe.

I think thats why you can't get Shelby Cobra replicas on the road with the jack mounts on the front - you have to put those faggy chrome things on.. real killers those jack mounts:mad:

[Graeme]

Thats stupid Max, I'd got to another blueslipper. I would expect those laws not to be retrospective like every other revision.
But they had front bumpers, so its not how it was originally registered.

[LSBob]

Hey MGs are dangerous!
Mate had one and one evening he parked it outside a pub and a patron who had been watching the footy all afternoon, came out carrying a slab, and went A over T over the MG. Being so small he didn't see it :D :D

[tombraider]

I thought the 'front protrusion' laws were for add on stuff - bull bars, rod holders, lights, aerial mounts etc.

Did the inspector say it failed (partly) just because the front bar wasn't fitted?? I had the same knock back years ago on a falcon coupe.

I think thats why you can't get Shelby Cobra replicas on the road with the jack mounts on the front - you have to put those faggy chrome things on.. real killers those jack mounts:mad:

Nothing to do with lethal...

Its injury from spiking....

And the Law applies to parked vehicles with tow bars...

You are not, by law, allowed to leave the tongue on a bar when not in use...

If someone kicks it you can be charged / sued

[dandlandyman]

here's hoping that only applies to those detatchable ones. Taking the towbar off my 2a every time it's not in use might get a bit old.

[harry]

In getting this back on the road after 30 plus years, it failed the blue slip today.

Partly because the front bumper mounts protrude forward of the bodywork ala the thumbnail. Its really annoying. This thing has never had a prang (when they normally get removed) , and I'll be damned if I'm cutting the chassis extensions now.

Looks as though I'll have to get a nudge bar made up. Grr.

Regards
Max P
don't bitch about it , just put the bumper back on it, you are in the wrong. the man is correct - you want to register an old car, you have to make it the way it was built to be inspected,
then if you want to cheat at racing it by making it lighter, then take the bumper off,
actually i am not sure you should have been allowed to track it without the bumper,
but the cams book is too fat to read.

oh, and i should point out 'it didn't fail the bull bar laws - it wasn't roadworthy'
and as my last comment - what is that piece of chrome on the car behind the 'a in the picture? - yes a ****ing bumper bar.

[rick130]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/7171d1204517535-my-mg-just-failed-bullbar-laws-amaroo-1998.jpg

now pick the corner and pick the track.
I nominate the late and much lamented Amaroo Pk and Stop/Go corner.

[Slunnie]

I'd guess the same Rick... that was onto pit straight wasn't it?

Harry, you can say something without being a rude bastard about it. If you also open a CAMS manual, you'll find that there is an index to Historics or any other class, and those sections are thin to read. If you race then you should also be familiar with any other generally relevant sections.

[harry]

Harry, you can say something without being a rude bastard about it. If you also open a CAMS manual, you'll find that there is an index to Historics or any other class, and those sections are thin to read. If you race then you should also be familiar with any other generally relevant sections.sorry to offend,
but if people want to rant about the law doing them wrong, then be sure they are legal..
as for the cams manual, a two year old copy is on the shelf, and historics is my interest, but it can stay there.
there are a lot of people taking a wider view of the rules of historics than the rules allow, and getting away with it, to the detriment of those that follow the rules and 'spirit' of the historic 'reason' for maintaining a 'classic' track vehicle.
the original post was about failing a roadworthy inspection for road registration in a vehicle modified for racing by removal of the front bumper, if i am correct, titled as 'my mg just failed the bullbar laws'

it didn't fail the bull bar laws [whatever they may be?]
it failed a roadworthy by not having a bumper bar fitted and 'dangerous' projections -ie - the bits the bumper bar dumb irons bolt to.

[Graeme]

Hey MGs are dangerous!
Mate had one and one evening he parked it outside a pub and a patron who had been watching the footy all afternoon, came out carrying a slab, and went A over T over the MG. Being so small he didn't see it :D :D
I used to drive an AH Sprite. The lights went green and the 1st 2 bikes slipped past in the left lane but the 3rd didn't see me and landed face-down beside me.

[Sandtoyz]

you don't even need a copy now, it's mostly online...
but they still slug you for a manual every year with your licence renewal....

Historic's link,
CAMS Online Manual of Motor Sport (http://www.camsmanual.com.au/historics.asp)

[Tusker]

now pick the corner and pick the track.
I nominate the late and much lamented Amaroo Pk and Stop/Go corner.

Well done, its Amaroo Park, 1998. Can't remember where though.

Strictly speaking its a tech bulletin this has been breached, intended for bull bars. The fishing rod holders top mounted lights, eye bolt recovery points etc.

I can't be certain, but I don't think it needs bumpers to be registered. Hell, we found out that in NSW any car is legal without a windscreen! Not just the pre-1965 stuff. 3 chips, & either replace the screen or remove it.

Regards
Max P

[mudmouse]

"Nothing to do with lethal...

"Its injury from spiking....

And the Law applies to parked vehicles with tow bars...

You are not, by law, allowed to leave the tongue on a bar when not in use...

If someone kicks it you can be charged / sued"


Yeah, but what happened to 'looking where you're walking'. The threat of being sued is just that, a threat. There is no way you could successfully prosecute a driver for having a towbar fitted (despite what the Pedestrian Council says) and someone skinning their shin. We've all done it and it hurts... just makes you keep a look out in future.

What about these air lift hooks? They certainly don't comply but does that keep them off the road?

There's the Law, safety and common sense - they don't cross paths that often.

Amaroo - i thought it looked like it was taken from pit straight??

[numpty]

I think you'll find that military vehicles have special dispensation. A bit like military aircraft which don't have to comply to noise or pollution criteria, which civil aircraft must.

[mudmouse]

Yes true. I meant when they're ex-mil, like the one in the photo...and others on the road.