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B92 8NW
5th March 2008, 09:58 PM
Sam Newman diagnosed with cancer (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=387962)

Unexpected:o

Fusion
5th March 2008, 10:09 PM
Thats bad news for anyone . Still can't stand that idiot .... needs his girlfriend to run him over a couple more times :D

Barra1
5th March 2008, 10:14 PM
True blood or blue blood when you await the news of that kind it is all the same.

Tough news.

Cancer knows no class, no wealth nor no fame.

The pain is the same.

Don't criticise the victim, donate to the cause.

Tank
5th March 2008, 10:48 PM
I have prostate cancer, I was diagnosed 12 years ago, my urologist (Specialist) advised that I have radiation therapy, because I only had a low grade cancer (Grade 3) and he said there would be less side effects,i.e. no Incontinence, no Impotence and it would only require 7 weeks treatment as an Outpatient.
You can take my advice or not, but at least get a second opinion, my advice is have the bloody thing out, in less than 5 years after Radiation the Cancer has returned and has spread to somewhere else in my body (still too small to detect). It seems that when Prostate cancer spreads it is still prostate cancer and it feeds off the Testosterone produced by your balls, seems the thing that makes us men is the same thing that kills us with prostate cancer, I am being treated with an injection every 3 months that stops the production of Testosterone and am still kicking 7 years after that treatment started, the Clinical Oncologist (prof. no less) reckons he can keep me kicking for a while yet, actually I am more likely to die of natural causes or old age.
The problem with Radiotherapy is the side effects, 1st you become impotent, 2nd the radiation damages your bladder, bowel and Rectum, which leaves you with the runs for the rest of your life and having to Pee 2 to 3 times a night. All of this can be avoided by having the prostate removed, esp. as in my case the cancer was not aggressive and the nerves that control the old fella and the valve on your bladder can be saved by the type of surgery performed today.
I was only 49 when I was diagnosed and there were no symptons, still aren't except for the radiation damage, so all you men out there get yourself tested, catch it early and with the new operating techniques they can eliminate the bad side effects, be told, if you have it and dont get it treated it will kill you so don't think it only happens to old codgers, Regards Frank.

RonMcGr
6th March 2008, 07:22 AM
As Frank (Tank) has said it is a nasty cancer and far too common.

Any male who has the slightest change to bladder control, should go see a Doctor immediately.

Several years ago I had a problem with wanting to pee all the time. Saw a Urologist who discovered early stages of bladder cancer and got it in time. I'm now constantly aware that prostate cancer maybe around the corner. Cancer is the one disease that won't go away. It will only go into remission :mad:

cucinadio
6th March 2008, 08:33 AM
I'm not demeaning the importance of prostate cancer as my dad had a scare!, but sam newman is a prostate cancer !!

cheers

WhiteD3
6th March 2008, 09:44 AM
Well, he'd be pretty safe from brain cancer:cool:

Tank
6th March 2008, 10:21 AM
As Frank (Tank) has said it is a nasty cancer and far too common.

Any male who has the slightest change to bladder control, should go see a Doctor immediately.

Several years ago I had a problem with wanting to pee all the time. Saw a Urologist who discovered early stages of bladder cancer and got it in time. I'm now constantly aware that prostate cancer maybe around the corner. Cancer is the one disease that won't go away. It will only go into remission :mad:
An important note to add: I HAD NO SYMPTOMS AT ALL AND STILL DONT (except from the Radiation treatment).
Ask your Doctor for a PSA blood test, if it's normal you wont get the finger up the bum check, have the blood test every year.
If there is any Prostate Cancer in the Family definitely have a check up, my Dad had it, but he died at 83 from emphysema caused by smoking, Regards Frank.

gumby190
6th March 2008, 11:18 AM
I have only just found out my old man has liver cancer, it is the secondary cancer site so they are testing it to locate the primary cancer. He has a few lesions in his liver the average one is 35mm across.

He collapsed at work on the 17th of Feburary, it is terrible how fast it has taken it's toll, he has lost 15kg in the last month. Chemo should be commencing in the middle of month, but it is fairly advanced.
It is a shocking disease that I wish upon no one.

vnx205
6th March 2008, 12:34 PM
As Frank (Tank) has said it is a nasty cancer and far too common.

Any male who has the slightest change to bladder control, should go see a Doctor immediately.

Several years ago I had a problem with wanting to pee all the time. Saw a Urologist who discovered early stages of bladder cancer and got it in time. I'm now constantly aware that prostate cancer maybe around the corner. Cancer is the one disease that won't go away. It will only go into remission :mad:

As I have mentioned a number of times, I try to keep my posts hypothetical and impersonal but this topic is important enough for me to make an exception this time.

In supporting Tank and RonMcGR, I'd like to go just a little further with my advice.

I went to the doctor at about age 53 with a sore wrist, (carpal tunnel syndrome form trying to learn to paddle a K1).
He advised a blood test simply because of my age.
The test showed a slightly raised PSA level.
I had the digital examination which told us nothing, so I had a biopsy which was negative.
For the next 4 years I had regular blood tests and biopsies. The PSA remained slightly elevated and the biopsies were clear.
Then at age 57 my PSA level jumped. The biopsy showed cancer. Indications were that the cancer was fairly aggressive. I had a radical prostatectomy (ie they took it all out) within a few months.
There was a clear margin around the cancer, but indications were that it was close.
My blood tests since then have been clear.

The point of the story is:

At no stage did I have any of the symptoms associated with prostate problems.
So given that the cancer was fairly aggressive it is quite conceivable that had I not had the surgery when I did, I would either be dead now or at least condemned to a slow, painful death as the cancer spread to other parts.
It is possible that my sore wrist prolonged my life.

Don't wait for symptoms before having a blood test to check PSA levels.

The test is not perfect, but at the moment, I understand it is the best we have got.

Have that blood test NOW. Don't wait for symptoms to develop. I had the cancer without the symptoms.

harryw
6th March 2008, 02:15 PM
Don't wait for symptoms before having a blood test to check PSA levels.

The test is not perfect, but at the moment, I understand it is the best we have got.

Have that blood test NOW. Don't wait for symptoms to develop. I had the cancer without the symptoms.

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I was diagnosed 10 years ago aged 55 no symptoms at all just included the PSA test along with a routine blood test for cholesterol, luckily for me I got it out before it spread.

This so serious for guys so don't hesitate at 50, or earlier if you have a family member who has had it, to have a PSA test and at least you have a chance.

Be assured every guy will either die with it or from it.

regards

hiline
6th March 2008, 02:58 PM
i'm having the test done in a couple of weeks aged 40.........

my grand father died from it so my quack tells me its best to test for it early and my mum died from a form of cancer a couple yrs ago

better to be safe than sorry in my books

vnx205
6th March 2008, 03:55 PM
An important note to add: I HAD NO SYMPTOMS AT ALL AND STILL DONT (except from the Radiation treatment).
Ask your Doctor for a PSA blood test, if it's normal you wont get the finger up the bum check, have the blood test every year.
If there is any Prostate Cancer in the Family definitely have a check up, my Dad had it, but he died at 83 from emphysema caused by smoking, Regards Frank.



I was diagnosed 10 years ago aged 55 no symptoms at all just included the PSA test along with a routine blood test for cholesterol, luckily for me I got it out before it spread.

This so serious for guys so don't hesitate at 50, or earlier if you have a family member who has had it, to have a PSA test and at least you have a chance.

Be assured every guy will either die with it or from it.

regards


At no stage did I have any of the symptoms associated with prostate problems.

Have that blood test NOW. Don't wait for symptoms to develop. I had the cancer without the symptoms.



Ok guys, that's three already who had cancer without any symptoms.

Hopefully that has convinced any male that you don't wait for the symptoms to develop before you have a blood test.

Just because you don't have the symptoms doesn't mean you don't have the cancer.

vnx205
6th March 2008, 04:02 PM
Sam Newman diagnosed with cancer (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=387962)

Unexpected:o

This might sound picky Joel, but it gives me the chance to make a serious point.

I have to disagree with your comment that it was unexpected.

He is male therefore by definition he is a candidate.

No man is immune no matter how famous, rich, fit or young they are.

Chenz
6th March 2008, 04:25 PM
Ok guys, that's three already who had cancer without any symptoms.

Hopefully that has convinced any male that you don't wait for the symptoms to develop before you have a blood test.

Just because you don't have the symptoms doesn't mean you don't have the cancer.

My dad had a back problem so had some tests an they found he had advanced prostate cancer. Luckly they got it in tiime and it hasn't sspread. he had no symptoms either.

I was 41 (48 now) when he got it and I have regular blood tests and the dreaded finger.

When I saw some of the guys in hospital who were not so lucky and it had spread, a finger up the date every year is no big deal.

numpty
6th March 2008, 04:37 PM
Finger up the date is no big deal......but......the second opinion:o

Seriously, it is very important to be checked, any way possible.

abaddonxi
6th March 2008, 05:27 PM
My father has it, had the prostatectomy - all out - a couple of years ago because you couldn't do surgery after radioactive rod therapy. Just in the last year his PSA went up - shouldn't do after surgery. He had one round of hormone therapy because he had a three-month overseas trip planned to start two weeks after the PSA test came back. Went on the holiday, came back and had radiation therapy, just finished that and the hormone treatment is masking his PSA results, so it'll be a few more months till he finds out if the radiation therapy has sorted it.

Ugly bugger prostate cancer.

My father in law probably had prostate cancer, had to go into hospital seven years ago all blocked up. Refused any treatment after that, dead in five years. It was a bit more complicated than that.

Cheers
Simon