iMac

[cartm58]

Got myself a new generation iMac yesterday on eBay, 2 gig speed chip with 4 Gig memory for $1825

Bye Bye Mr Gates hello Mr Jobs

[Turtle61]

Welcome to the Mac side of the planet :) :p ;) :cool:

[LoveMyV8County]

Since buying the iMac no-one in our house bothers with the PC.

[HangOver]

Is that the new shape with all the bits in the monitor?
They look nice. Did you get the 20" or 24" screen?

[disco2hse]

New generation? Do you mean it is Intel?

If it is new the price sounds pretty good. Get 10.5 installed (if it isn't already).

Still got the old dual 2 gig ppc. Runs really well with the new OS :) It's heading up to 7 years old now - show me a PC that can make that claim :cool::cool:

[Mudnut]

Welcome to the world of computers that you don't have to be a nerd to understand. I have 3 mac's in my household (one iMac, and 2 laptops), and have been using Mac's since 1983, when I got sick of trying to figure out this DOS stuff. My 24" iMac doubles as our TV while we are renovating. My 6 year old son, and wife both love using them. The advantage of intel ones, is you can use Windows if needed. Hence the laptops for work.

enjoy,

Ken

[disco2hse]

Welcome to the world of computers that you don't have to be a nerd to understand. I have 3 mac's in my household (one iMac, and 2 laptops), and have been using Mac's since 1983, when I got sick of trying to figure out this DOS stuff. My 24" iMac doubles as our TV while we are renovating. My 6 year old son, and wife both love using them. The advantage of intel ones, is you can use Windows if needed. Hence the laptops for work.

enjoy,

Ken

You might have meant 1984 ;)

1984 movie (http://www.curtsmedia.com/cine/1984movie.htm.)

[Mudnut]

Sorry it was while I was in Uni, and it was 1985.:o

Cheers,

Ken

[rosettaquarrier]

Welcome to the elite :D

Great choice. You'll never look back.

[RonMcGr]

Got myself a new generation iMac yesterday on eBay, 2 gig speed chip with 4 Gig memory for $1825

Bye Bye Mr Gates hello Mr Jobs

I hope you got fries with that!
Are those things compatible with anything?

[inside]

Are those things compatible with anything?
Yes, the lives of normal people trying to get normal things done on their computer.

[Turtle61]

Yes, the lives of normal people trying to get normal things done on their computer.

You forgot to mention sanity, quality, lower stress levels and reduction in deforestation due to decreased levels of coffee consumption while waiting for ANYTHING to happen... the list can go on.

They are however incompatible with blue screen of death, viruses - so far the count for OSX is zip, zero, nadda, zilch - and SOME software. Even MS Office has been recently upgraded and new version is out - but unless there is a bloody good reason for getting MS Office, I'd stick with iWork - best ever package.

I've been using Macs since .. ow bugger - can't even think that far back - and now SWMBO wants one... and my 3yo too (gave her my old MacBook Duo - which has been sitting in storage for about 6 years - and she loves it). So as soon as the funds permit another Mac - most likely a MacBook - will be purchased.

And to be fair, I did spend 4 years working on a PC so I do have a good comparison and (mostly) unbiased opinion... :p

[LoveMyV8County]

Y... but unless there is a bloody good reason for getting MS Office, I'd stick with iWork - best ever package.



Like Turtle said.

I use MS Office all day at work but in the home environment iWork is excellent unless you are a power spreadsheet user. Numbers is a bit lightweight but Keynote is superb and Pages more than capable. At $99 (academic price $88) it is great value.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Excellent Smithers :)

Be prepared to be fining your way around for a little while... but the trick is don't think PC. Just try and think what the easy logical way of doing something would be. Remember if it seems hard you're almost certainly not doing it right.

Also spotlight is your friend. Use it to find EVERYTHING. It's the magnifying glass on the right of the menu bar at the top of the screen. Or just Apple-space :)

[disco2hse]

I hope you got fries with that!
Are those things compatible with anything?

Time for an update :eek:

Macs have been compatible with just about damn near everything since 1984 :o It has been the myopic PCs that were not compatible.

For years I've heard the same or similar uninformed comments particularly from PC admins, even to the extent of them saying "Oh God, We can't have a Mac on the network :eek: Macs break networks!". Absolute rubbish.




Phew that's better, 'scuse me :D

Oh, and I have Macs, PCs, and FreeBSD at home and they all talk to each other and play nice, most of the time (then someone gets threatened with a reformat, then they behave :) )

[Tango51]

I see, I have never bothered with them after seeing the first ones in action. They were very "stand alone" :eek:

A bit like going into a Falcodore spares shop and asking for a part for a Lada!


A more realistic analogy would be "A bit like going into a Falcodore factory and asking for a part for a Benz"

Seriously.

[disco2hse]

They were very "stand alone" :eek:

Don't really understand your point, could you explain?

Having been a computer tech any parts that were required were always specific to that model, brand, type, etc. e.g. you couldn't stick just any kind of hard disk into a box. It had to be the right size and type. Same goes for CPUs, RAM, peripherals (especially with the introduction of Plug-and-Pray),... Trying getting a SCSI device to work on a PC, jeez what a drama that could be.

In a sense any computer that has ever been made is "stand alone" because every computer demands specificities according to its hardware and software requirements. This has been seriously highlighted with Vista which even now suffers from backward compatibility issues for hardware drivers on peripherals with release dates as recent as two months prior to the release of Vista.

[disco2hse]

Unable to be used with any other software, other than Mac.

Right. Gotcha :)

You mean like Windows software can be run on computers that don't run Windows, eh. ;)








Oh wait, you can, like on a Mac :o

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Yeah... macs are very stand offish and un-compatible with windows these days. If you need to run any windows software you're totally stuffed. LOL :D:D

[Aaron]

Excellent Smithers :)

Bbut the trick is don't think PC. Just try and think what the easy logical way of doing something would be. Remember if it seems hard you're almost certainly not doing it right.



Great bit of advice. Most people will have trouble getting used to it, I did. Pretty much, things... just work. Ive had my power book for about.... 8 months, and Ive turned it off three times, it just stays in sleep mode, and it doesn't effect it... do that on a windows based system.

[tombraider]

Yeah... macs are very stand offish and un-compatible with windows these days. If you need to run any windows software you're totally stuffed. LOL :D:D

Coherence mode is much more fun!!!

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Coherence mode is much more fun!!!

That screen shot was parallels. If there had been something running it would have appeared on the mac dock :)

[tombraider]

That screen shot was parallels. If there had been something running it would have appeared on the mac dock :)

I know mate :D Its running here right now!

But I run in coherence mode so you dont see the windows background, just the taskbar and the applications in the mac dock :cool:

[HangOver]

Yeah... macs are very stand offish and un-compatible with windows these days. If you need to run any windows software you're totally stuffed. LOL :D:D

LOL thats so funny buy an Apple then run windows on it :D:D
No offence, it just amused me.

This is going to be another windows v OSx thread huh.

IMO at the moment a home computer is a home computer, they are all the same inside only the OS changes.
Well Apple don't really do DDR3 yet but that's about it, at lest I don't think they do?

[tombraider]

Well Apple don't really do DDR3 yet but that's about it, at lest I don't think they do?

Your right, they benchmark fast enough without it :p

And as for running weezdows on a mac... At least we can on rare occasions use it if we need to!!!

Mac has almost everything covered from their own stable....:angel:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Your right, they benchmark fast enough without it :p

And as for running weezdows on a mac... At least we can on rare occasions use it if we need to!!!

Mac has almost everything covered from their own stable....:angel:

I keep windows on my mac for only two things.

1. I they haven't sorted the citrix stuff out at work yet so I need it for that (I did have it working natively for a bit but they played with it)
2 Oziexplorer.

The best thing about it is that if windows gets itself in a mess I can just blow it away and have a new one in about 30 minutes :)

[LoveMyV8County]

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1. I they haven't sorted the citrix stuff out at work yet so I need it for that (I did have it working natively for a bit but they played with it)

...

That's a shame - we've got a few Macs (including a G4) running Citrix at work and I'm using it on my iMac at home to access work.

The OS X screen magnifier works a treat - saves us buying Zoomtext software for PCs at $600 or so a time (I work for an organisation with a number of vision-impaired people).

Are you using the browser with the Java client?

[Captain_Rightfoot]

That's a shame - we've got a few Macs (including a G4) running Citrix at work and I'm using it on my iMac at home to access work.

The OS X screen magnifier works a treat - saves us buying Zoomtext software for PCs at $600 or so a time (I work for an organisation with a number of vision-impaired people).

Are you using the browser with the Java client?
I'm just using safari. We use the citrix client that you download. Unfortunately I downloaded the latest version and now no shift, ctrl, alt keys etc work. With case sensitive passwords you're finished. There were also certificate probelms. I'm confident all this could have been solved.

However I've got another job that I start in 4 weeks (for another govt department) so I can't see me putting any more work into it now. :)

[camel_landy]

I make a nice living out of being a Windows expert... Thing is, when I get home, I only use Macs. :D

As for running Windows on an Intel Mac... VM Ware is what you need. :cool:

M

[disco2hse]

I make a nice living out of being a Windows expert... Thing is, when I get home, I only use Macs. :D

As for running Windows on an Intel Mac... VM Ware is what you need. :cool:

M

harharhar

You mean you can't make a living fixing macs, eh :eek: :p:p:D:D:D

[Captain_Rightfoot]

harharhar

You mean you can't make a living fixing macs, eh :eek: :p:p:D:D:D

I try and get anyone who falls in my personal "support network" to get a mac. The reason is I can spend a night with them showing them a few things about them and then off they go and don't come to me for help with all the usual windows dramas.

[disco2hse]

I try and get anyone who falls in my personal "support network" to get a mac. The reason is I can spend a night with them showing them a few things about them and then off they go and don't come to me for help with all the usual windows dramas.

Great isn't it. Like my sister in law. She has an old G3, Powerbook, and an HP tower. She is always having 'issues' with the tower.

[HangOver]

And as for running weezdows on a mac... At least we can on rare occasions use it if we need to!!!
it wasnt a critasism, just an observation



I make a nice living out of being a Windows expert... Thing is, when I get home, I only use Macs. :D As for running Windows on an Intel Mac... VM Ware is what you need. :cool:
M

Just curious, (we use a VMWare server @ work) VMWare uses it's own OS why would an Apple derived server, (didn't know they made them??) be more efficient than a standard Intel server?
Or did you mean don't use the "Apple" use VMWare to run windows?
BTW I agree, VMWare is quite :cool: it has huge advantages.

[disco2hse]

Just curious, (we use a VMWare server @ work) VMWare uses it's own OS why would an Apple derived server, (didn't know they made them??) be more efficient than a standard Intel server?
Or did you mean don't use the "Apple" use VMWare to run windows?
BTW I agree, VMWare is quite :cool: it has huge advantages.

Apple servers have been around for donkeys years. They have always done more than just Macs. The new breed are, well, just amazing - see here Apple XServe (http://www.apple.com/xserve/).

VMWare and Parallels allow for virtualisation. That means you can run any intel based OS; Windows, Linux, some Solaris, some BSDs, etc. And you can have various OSs installed and running at the same time or multiple editions of the same OS, such as on XServe.

[cartm58]

Is that the new shape with all the bits in the monitor?
They look nice. Did you get the 20" or 24" screen?

20 inch monitor, 4 gig mem, all the bits in the monitor new version style iMac, its lovely machine

[disco2hse]

20 inch monitor, 4 gig mem, all the bits in the monitor new version style iMac, its lovely machine

Excellent :) 4Gb RAM - I bet it'll run iLife'08 really sweet :cool:

[camel_landy]

Just curious, (we use a VMWare server @ work) VMWare uses it's own OS why would an Apple derived server, (didn't know they made them??) be more efficient than a standard Intel server?
Or did you mean don't use the "Apple" use VMWare to run windows?
BTW I agree, VMWare is quite :cool: it has huge advantages.

I was suggesting that you use VMWare to run Windows rather than Parallels. VMWare is better in its processor usage. :D

M

[camel_landy]

harharhar

You mean you can't make a living fixing macs, eh :eek: :p:p:D:D:D

I can & I do (sometimes), I just find I can make more working on other projects & platforms... :p

I've actually worked on a handful of nice OS X rollouts where I've designed & built a standard OS build for the Macs. 2,000 - 3,000 workstations (small by Windows standards but fair size Mac installations).

M

[Tango51]

Mundane for you peeps, but I was checking out a 'young tech freak' site and so many young people have a quality screen and mac gear including something called the mini and it is their tv, movie player, hi fi, etcetera, they store huge volumes of movies and music, it seems to be the whole package!
Sounds intriguing!

[LoveMyV8County]

Mundane for you peeps, but I was checking out a 'young tech freak' site and so many young people have a quality screen and mac gear including something called the mini and it is their tv, movie player, hi fi, etcetera, they store huge volumes of movies and music, it seems to be the whole package!
Sounds intriguing!

My iMac is the home entertainment unit. 160GB but only 28GB free space <sigh>.

I use Airtunes to stream music to the vintage B&O stereo. The iMac has the only working CD player in the house.

[HangOver]

pretty much the same here.
I have movies on my notebook and mp3's on my desktop, (recent upgrade to about 600Gig
I rigged the desktop to play audio n video to play through the cat5 points to the cinema room, it's a bit bodgy but it works.
When I want/need to it's played from one or the other to either the projector and/or the audio system, been like that for a few years now, works a treat.

CD's what are they? ;)

[incisor]

I was suggesting that you use VMWare to run Windows rather than Parallels. VMWare is better in its processor usage. :D

M
not on the latest versions i checked out ... most definetly not on my imac thats for sure. just went thru the process for a client.

one thing i didnt get a chance to checkout was whether vmware could use your bootcamp partition as well like parallels can... might look at that in the next day or two if i get a chance...

[camel_landy]

not on the latest versions i checked out ... most definetly not on my imac thats for sure. just went thru the process for a client.

one thing i didnt get a chance to checkout was whether vmware could use your bootcamp partition as well like parallels can... might look at that in the next day or two if i get a chance...

Ah ha!

I haven't looked at Parallels vs VM Ware for a few months now but when I looked at it last (Oct 07 IIRC) VM Ware use both cores in the processor where as Parallels didn't.

Boot camp & VM Ware... Pass. TBH - It's not something I've really thought about but now that you've mentioned it, it makes perfect sense. I usually run as much as I can natively and then shell out for the few things I can't.

BTW - I don't know if you've already found it but I find John Rizzo's site MacWindows (http://www.macwindows.com) to be very useful.

M

[cartm58]

Lol, Mac will run Windows, windows won't run Mac software

Windows software designed only for PC so does that make it standalone by your definition.