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Aaron
17th March 2008, 02:49 PM
Just got home from play time, and my guard resembles a flat, though curde bar, rather than a tube. Its done its job, now its time to move on to a heavier duty job.

Whats everyone elese using?

Col.Coleman
17th March 2008, 03:13 PM
Big bashplate I got from M.R. though havn't tested it properly yet. Got an old tube if you want. See pics of bashplate in rimseg thread.

Scallops
17th March 2008, 03:20 PM
I've got the OL 10mm thick aluminium number - it also comes in steel if you prefer. Looks bling - works a treat.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5241/scallopscamppostqf5rx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

solmanic
17th March 2008, 03:47 PM
...Whats everyone elese using?

Extreme caution :p

Aaron
17th March 2008, 04:32 PM
I might go with the OL one. Is there for's and against's of steel?

Aaron
17th March 2008, 04:36 PM
Extreme caution :p

That would have worked in this case! Track Ive done a lot before (3 days ago also) and its a sort of "Pick Your Rut!" track, where there are 3 different rutts to pick and thats it your are commited. I didnt bother to check further down because if done it a few days ago. By the looks of it someone with much bigger wheels than myself had been bogged at the exit/climb out and I just dropped and hit solid ground head on top speed 2nd low. Oh well... live and learn.

Scallops
17th March 2008, 04:43 PM
I might go with the OL one. Is there for's and against's of steel?

Well - I don't reckon anything can wreck the aluminium one - its seriously strong. And it can't rust - so I went with aluminium. ;)

Tusker
17th March 2008, 04:50 PM
Don't get too carried away..

First, there will be times when articulation will expose steering gear anyway

2nd, some styles reduce your approach angle.

3rd, They reduce airflow under the car. Gearboxes do rely on this cooling effect.

4th, Mud can be a problem to clean out depending on design.

Me, I've just opted for a beefier tube bar setup similar to original.

Regards
Max P

one_iota
17th March 2008, 05:02 PM
Graeme Cooper does one with a thicker wall for the pipe and a bolt on/off chequer plate guard. I have one on the Disco and will be doing the same for the Fender.

Graeme Cooper - Defender Accessories (http://www.graemecooper.com.au/defender_accessories.htm)

Aaron
17th March 2008, 05:02 PM
Did you make one yourself?

Scallops
17th March 2008, 05:02 PM
Don't get too carried away..

First, there will be times when articulation will expose steering gear anyway

2nd, some styles reduce your approach angle.

3rd, They reduce airflow under the car. Gearboxes do rely on this cooling effect.

4th, Mud can be a problem to clean out depending on design.

Me, I've just opted for a beefier tube bar setup similar to original.

Regards
Max P

Quite true - all good points. I looked into a few different bash plates and chose the OL version as...

- no reduction in approach angle,
- the leading edge and base of the guard are perforated with large diameter holes which allow airflow,
- it's easy to hose out.
- it provides the greatest level of frontal underbody protection. ;)

Aaron
17th March 2008, 05:04 PM
Graeme Cooper does one with a thicker wall for the pipe and a bolt on/off chequer plate guard. I have one on the Disco and will be doing the same for the Fender.

Graeme Cooper - Defender Accessories (http://www.graemecooper.com.au/defender_accessories.htm)

Thanks, Do you have any photos?

rangieman
17th March 2008, 05:25 PM
I have these :D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/330.jpg
And from the rear of the front diff
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/956.jpg

one_iota
17th March 2008, 05:42 PM
Thanks, Do you have any photos?

I have one of the Disco's:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/338.jpg

The Fenders will be slightly different but the principal is the same.

GC used to have photo on it's old web site. Get in touch with them they might be able to send you a photo.

Aaron
17th March 2008, 06:01 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/337.jpg

Here is mine :P

rangieman
17th March 2008, 06:35 PM
My Troutbeck stuff saved me from this bent drag link # 2 defenders down same hill same size tyres same rutts over the same rock

Go rags67
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/325.jpg

rovercare
17th March 2008, 06:57 PM
My Troutbeck stuff saved me from this bent drag link # 2 defenders down same hill same size tyres same rutts over the same rock

Go rags67


All these nice pics Chris and I haven't seen one with the Swampers fitted:(

rangieman
17th March 2008, 07:04 PM
All these nice pics Chris and I haven't seen one with the Swampers fitted:(
All i have is a vid at the moment and just for you im uploading it to photobucket right now so stay tunned ;)

rangieman
17th March 2008, 07:39 PM
Sorry to highjack the thread guys :cool:

But this is for (sir rovercare) as he wanted to see the swampers on my car:D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/02/426.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/rangieman/?action=view&current=feb2008127.flv)

sclarke
17th March 2008, 08:14 PM
I have these :D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/330.jpg
And from the rear of the front diff
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/956.jpg

Now the front clearance matches the Salisbury Plough.......:D:D:D

rangieman
17th March 2008, 08:18 PM
Now the front clearance matches the Salisbury Plough.......:D:D:D
It plough,s quiet nicely for me thanks , its all personal choice ,it might have a few scratch,s but i havent bent the drag link or dented the the diff cover with it fitted:p

Aaron
17th March 2008, 08:21 PM
Ive taken all the advice i need at this stage... hijack as much as you like.. especially with pics and vids!

Tusker
18th March 2008, 08:51 AM
My Troutbeck stuff saved me from this bent drag link # 2 defenders down same hill same size tyres same rutts over the same rock

Go rags67
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/325.jpg

How did that happen? The terrain doesn't look rocky enough. You'd have to get the front axle over a rock & have the wieght of the car on the rod to do that..

And the second kink? Let me guess, trying to straighten with a wack on a rock or a tree?

Regards
Max P

isuzu110
18th March 2008, 10:14 AM
Graeme Cooper does one with a thicker wall for the pipe and a bolt on/off chequer plate guard. I have one on the Disco and will be doing the same for the Fender.

Graeme Cooper - Defender Accessories (http://www.graemecooper.com.au/defender_accessories.htm)

Does anyone have any pics of this one mounted and unmounted ? Thanks

rangieman
18th March 2008, 10:42 AM
How did that happen? The terrain doesn't look rocky enough. You'd have to get the front axle over a rock & have the wieght of the car on the rod to do that..

And the second kink? Let me guess, trying to straighten with a wack on a rock or a tree?

Regards
Max P


The terrain the photo was taken on was the flat at the bottom of the hill and yes the weight of the car was on it, we could not have taken it off on the hill too dangerous and the second kink was all the result of hitting the rock , that someone else suggested that id plough over which i did :cool:

And yes we did straighten it by belting against a tree ,which is the best way to straighten these in the bush not with a hammer:D

Tusker
18th March 2008, 11:14 AM
Ah been there done that..

I used to suggest get a Maxidrive replacement, but alas no more.

I usually find that whoever attempts to use the eucalypt anvil, or the rocky anvil, miss.. & an S bend is the result..

To straighten these in the field, we've had some successwith a drag chain & a hi-lift/jackamte combo. Its much more controlled, & the pressure can be applied exacly on the kink.

Regards
Max P

one_iota
18th March 2008, 12:01 PM
Again GC and Les Richmond sell a larger diameter drag links and track rods (32 mm diameter and 8mm wall thickness) supposedly 10 mm larger than stock. I have the track rod on the Disco.....


But every thing will have its limits and the harder it is to bend the harder it is to straighten. :twisted:

rovercare
18th March 2008, 12:52 PM
Ah been there done that..

I used to suggest get a Maxidrive replacement, but alas no more.

I usually find that whoever attempts to use the eucalypt anvil, or the rocky anvil, miss.. & an S bend is the result..

To straighten these in the field, we've had some successwith a drag chain & a hi-lift/jackamte combo. Its much more controlled, & the pressure can be applied exacly on the kink.

Regards
Max P

Nup, I vote tree anvil, then replace when home;)

foz.in.oz
18th March 2008, 04:04 PM
I used to run with the fectory pipe dream but I got a rock wedged between it and the steering damper. Damper ended up looking like the tie bar above:D
Now I have the plate type. Air flow is not a problem when your axle deep in mud:twisted:

rangieman
18th March 2008, 06:48 PM
Nup, I vote tree anvil, then replace when home;)
Yep ive done a few in the bush mine included never missed a tree anvil yet , pick a big enough tree fairly hard to miss and easy to control by how hard you swing:D

Tusker
19th March 2008, 08:20 AM
The last time this happened for me was to a County in the group. Transpired it had been bent before, it wasn't going to be safe.

We jammed a hi lift handle over it to sleeve it.

Regards
Max P

Aaron
20th March 2008, 03:43 PM
I put the Ol Aluminum one on order today. Should have it mid next week.

Col.Coleman
14th April 2008, 12:18 AM
Tested it. Bent but saved the steering gear, a little harder and I'm not so sure. Gonna try and straighten it now and will probably modify to fit original tube as well as the bottom edge in the middle has no support. The steel brackets haven't bent though. It does seem to hang lower and ground alot earlier too than the standard bar

Aaron
14th April 2008, 07:37 AM
Is that the steel one? (Rust ?)

Mine still hasnt arrived yet, should be this week.

Col.Coleman
14th April 2008, 08:46 AM
no alloy the marks are from the coffee rocks. Did a run on the second day and everything was fine, just touched the chassis rail on the return pass. The pics are the first run. On the third day I didn't get out and have a look and had a car full of people as well. A big tide had washed out all the sand filling the holes up. But once I was committed I had no choice. Front went in a BIG hole with both fronts dangling in mid air but the locker drove me up using the guard as a slide. Used side steps as sliders, tested front and rear diff guards, touched everything and put a slight dint in the tank. The steering rod clamp bolts face down and are just scraping the top where the guard is bont up when the left front wheel is dropped on full articulation but all else is good.

Scallops
14th April 2008, 08:48 AM
Tested it. Bent but saved the steering gear, a little harder and I'm not so sure. Gonna try and straighten it now and will probably modify to fit original tube as well as the bottom edge in the middle has no support. The steel brackets haven't bent though. It does seem to hang lower and ground alot earlier too than the standard bar

It did save your steering arms and sump etc. A little harder? - nothing can save equipment in some situations. ;)

Col.Coleman
14th April 2008, 09:21 AM
It was a pretty gentle slide into the hole and as mentioned the steering arm clamp was touching the bent guard in some circumstances. Was refering to maybe hitting something at speed while trying to negotiate a boghole are bulldust or wombats.

rovercare
14th April 2008, 04:35 PM
Tested it. Bent but saved the steering gear, a little harder and I'm not so sure. Gonna try and straighten it now and will probably modify to fit original tube as well as the bottom edge in the middle has no support. The steel brackets haven't bent though. It does seem to hang lower and ground alot earlier too than the standard bar

Bigger tyres would have prevented that:p

Col.Coleman
14th April 2008, 07:42 PM
you mean if I strapped a huge tyre there instead of the guard:D
maybe it would have bounced up:twisted::twisted::twisted:

rusty1972
10th May 2008, 10:53 PM
$$$$ on steering guards

Aaron
11th May 2008, 03:20 PM
450 I think he told me. Mine still hasnt arrived.

Col.Coleman
11th May 2008, 10:54 PM
450 I think he told me. Mine still hasnt arrived.

You have to be ****ing ****ting me!!!!!!
Tell opposite lock to stick it up his ****.
They still havn't called me for something I ordered before easter.
And 450!!!! **** off.

Go and see M R Automotive.
Don't waste your time with the other lot charging you an arm and a leg and taking forever

CC

rar110
11th May 2008, 11:14 PM
An army 110 steering guard sold this weekend on ebay for $50. Only one bid, it was a good buy for someone.

Aaron
12th May 2008, 11:33 AM
You have to be ****ing ****ting me!!!!!!
Tell opposite lock to stick it up his ****.
They still havn't called me for something I ordered before easter.
And 450!!!! **** off.

Go and see M R Automotive.
Don't waste your time with the other lot charging you an arm and a leg and taking forever

CC

Ill give it a few more days then tell them its no longer required. Its a shame, because I really do like there other stuff they have and was prepared to give them 99 percent of my business.

Rugrat
13th May 2008, 12:16 PM
Aaron,

picked mine up from Rovercraft yesterday - Call them up the guards are pretty much the same as O/L's.
Decent price - havent fitted it yet otherwise I would have a piccy 4 you.

Rovacraft - Land Rover, Range Rover parts and accessories. (http://www.rovacraft.com.au)

They are the same as the Scorpionracing ones - identical as they import them.

Give them a bell - Melb. Syd. Perth.

Tell OL to stick it as thats a high price for a bit of Alloy IMHO

Scallops
13th May 2008, 12:21 PM
Aaron,

picked mine up from Rovercraft yesterday - Call them up the guards are pretty much the same as O/L's.


I've never seen a 10mm thick bash plate made by anyone other than the South African supplied OL number - may be wrong, but I think you'll find yours is 6mm. ;)

Rugrat
13th May 2008, 01:15 PM
I've never seen a 10mm thick bash plate made by anyone other than the South African supplied OL number - may be wrong, but I think you'll find yours is 6mm. ;)

Rovercraft - UK supplied one is made from 8mm alloy plate with bolt on anodised steel mounting brackets suitable for medium duty off roading.
Suits my needs and cheaper than the OL if $450 is correct.

Col.Coleman
16th May 2008, 12:42 AM
OK mine is all straight again. Pulled it off. Used the high lift and car then pounded the rest flat with a mallet. Just like brand new. Mine is bearmach and yes it is 6mm. Tis a bit soft I thought. Problem with OL is one particular store owner seems pretty disinterested when it comes to landies. So my money goes elsewhere. If i have any probs with it in future I will use this plate as a template and just knock up a new one out of thicker alloy or some plate steel. It is just a flat plate with two easy bends and some holes cut in it.
CC

isuzu110
16th May 2008, 04:44 PM
Problem with OL is one particular store owner seems pretty disinterested when it comes to landies.

If we are talking about the same store, they seem disinterested in anything, only go there if I have to. I don't like going to stores where the salespeople are all over you but at the other end of the spectrum I do expect a bit more than a pulse.

rangieman
16th May 2008, 05:02 PM
450 I think he told me. Mine still hasnt arrived.
Google TroutBeck about 250 for my 8 mm alloy plate , It has a few scratch,s ,and im not easy on it but never bent it yet;)

rangieman
16th May 2008, 05:09 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/07/367.jpg

Aaron
16th May 2008, 10:08 PM
Thanks Rangieman, you have........ a pretty bottome..... Nice guards!

Can you guys pm me the name of the OL store in question?

Got in contact with Rover Craft via Email, and will place an order with them next week I think.

And for future reference-

It is made up of to folded steel sided mounts about 5mm in thickness, then a alloy centre guard of 10mm

In thickness this has a few folds in it and all so a few holes cur through it to allow air through it.

- From Anthony (Very happy with his service) at Rovacraft

Does Trout Beck have a catalouge?

Col.Coleman
21st May 2008, 09:47 PM
Ah yeah, bent mine again, need to pull it off and bash it flat again. Is doing the job though. Just need it to be tougher. Will definately make an 8mm steel one.

CC

EchiDna
21st May 2008, 10:59 PM
Troutbeck Sales & Services (http://www.troutbecksales.com/access.htm)