I need a hug

[gsang110]

Hi
After reading all the horror stories about TD5 engines, heads/gaskets, bolts that fall out of oil pumps causing $18 to $20 K rebuild bills, oil in ECU's and wiring looms a couple of g's every 2 years what's going on? Am I having a bad dream, I've had landies since 1968 and had plenty of troubles crook gearboxes / axles etc. but these TD5 troubles seem something else again. Have 2000 fender converted to auto, no major dramas so far apart from new injector loom and turbo, waste gate stuck open, sounds a good move to put it up blocks and leave it there before something very serious happens

Graham

[graceysdad]

When all else fails, hug your teddy!

[Psimpson7]

FFS...... what is it with people and anything new on Land Rovers. The td5 is a very good engine as was the tdi, but things have to keep pace.. Yes its more complicated, but so what.... The few issues that have been experienced are well known and should all have been sorted by now...

I am absoloutley sick of this anti td5 cr*p.. For Heavans sake Rover v8s have been fuel inected since 1985 odd and people dont bitch about that.

I am tempted to sell mine and buy a gu patrol just to avoid the 'I wish I had leafsprings still mentality' ...

If you want a td5 buy one.. If you dont. Dont.

oooh its got a few sensors... it must have been created by the devil....:mad:

This post isnt directed at anyone but things move on and in all honesty the td5 isnt that complicated or unreliable!

These posts on forums just extend the myth that there are more issues that there really are....

Rgds
Pete.

[dullbird]

well why don't you just say how you really feel....:eek:

[101RRS]

Peter,

Tell us what you really think :)

[Slunnie]

I agree Pete,

Also, the comments in the first post are quite an exageration, and from my experiences and probably most others, the TD5 is an excellent and reliable motor. Just like all of the Landy diesels, you must look after it.

Head gaskets is collateral damage after an overheat, and the overheat is usually due to an engine trauma. If you install a coolant level sensor you can safe guard yourself against this.

Oil pump bolts, will have been loctited back in during service, and if it wasn't then you will have been one of the rare ones to have this fail. $18 - $20k repair isn't likely, especially when a low km TD5's are selling for about $4000. It's not a problem.

Injector looms every 2 years??? Maybe. They're about $250

Don't sweat about it. Anyway, a true luddite still rides a horse because there is less to go wrong.... or is there.

[rick130]

<snip>

Anyway, a true luddite still rides a horse because there is less to go wrong.... or is there.

just don't ask me how much SWMBO's main GG is worth, and what can go wrong and if it's serious how you can't just plug a new bit in to fix it......

Give me a TD5 any day ;)

[dobbo]

just don't ask me how much SWMBO's main GG is worth, and what can go wrong and if it's serious how you can't just plug a new bit in to fix it......

Give me a TD5 any day ;)

Totally agree, when a GG gets sick it can cost up to the cost of a new TD5 and you still have to pay to feed the thing even though you cannot enjoy it till it's fixed.

[Sandtoyz]

So my Defender 110 TD5 is 9 years old now.
(It was one of the first shipments in Oz!)
Yes its got a few issues (or some unique style!),
nothing major, just build issues, thats how they are.

So I've got to replace the fuel pump now, 'cause its screaming its head off!!!
- big deal, its been in use for 9 years now, it can't run without it, I've just got to do it and move on.

So I was unlucky and had a pinhole develop in the head, and lost most of the coolant, but at the time was in Melbourne.
The workshop I went to moved planets (nah not really!), but did everything they could to get us on the road again within a week.
- That included sourcing another head from Sydney, having it sent down, tested, exchange all the stuff into it, etc.
While it was in the shop it had a major service done, and was re-tuned (chipped) as well, at my request.

This was not related to the head gasket in any way, and I've never had an issue with that.

Oil in the harness never effected my driving of the vehicle, but it was done under a factory service.

All in all it is still a great vehicle, just with its own characteristics !

[CraigE]

FFS...... what is it with people and anything new on Land Rovers. The td5 is a very good engine as was the tdi, but things have to keep pace.. Yes its more complicated, but so what.... The few issues that have been experienced are well known and should all have been sorted by now...

I am absoloutley sick of this anti td5 cr*p.. For Heavans sake Rover v8s have been fuel inected since 1985 odd and people dont bitch about that.

I am tempted to sell mine and buy a gu patrol just to avoid the 'I wish I had leafsprings still mentality' ...

If you want a td5 buy one.. If you dont. Dont.

oooh its got a few sensors... it must have been created by the devil....:mad:

This post isnt directed at anyone but things move on and in all honesty the td5 isnt that complicated or unreliable!

These posts on forums just extend the myth that there are more issues that there really are....

Rgds
Pete.
Have to say that is not called for. If people have concerns help allay them dont bitch about them. I have to say if I was buying a new car I would want to know the truth about faults so I could make an informed decision.
This site is supposed to be about helping each other with information, not belittling people.
:mad::mad:

[CraigE]

Hi
After reading all the horror stories about TD5 engines, heads/gaskets, bolts that fall out of oil pumps causing $18 to $20 K rebuild bills, oil in ECU's and wiring looms a couple of g's every 2 years what's going on? Am I having a bad dream, I've had landies since 1968 and had plenty of troubles crook gearboxes / axles etc. but these TD5 troubles seem something else again. Have 2000 fender converted to auto, no major dramas so far apart from new injector loom and turbo, waste gate stuck open, sounds a good move to put it up blocks and leave it there before something very serious happens

Graham
Graham,
yes there are issues as there are with most cars and engines.
The oil in the ecu is an easy inexpensive fix with either cleaning both harnesses or replacing the injector harness and cleaning the main harnes (plenty of threads on this).
The bolt in the oil pump is rare but again an easy fix, drop the sump and re loctite.
Heads are only an issue if the engine is overheated as in any alloy engine.
TD5s are expensive to replace yes, but prices are coming down. The 18-20k quoted was for a new engine fitted, but can be done for less as can rebuilds or second hand engines.
I have had no major drama with mine, just quirky irritating things.

[procrastination inc]

Has anyone tried that new "you beaut" oil resistant, heat resistant , self sealing silicon tape on a TD5 injector loom?

Just a thought

[Blknight.aus]

wont work....

the oil creeps along the wires using capilary action......

if you could seperate and seal the independant strads of the wire you might be in with a shot.

so far the best solution appears to be lifting the top of the injector side plug and filling that with sealastic goop.

[cucinadio]

I agree Pete,

[QUOTE]Also, the comments in the first post are quite an exaggeration, and from my experiences and probably most others, the TD5 is an excellent and reliable motor. Just like all of the Landy diesels, you must look after it.
yhea ur write slunnie , but l can see his point in that when you buy these things

If you install a coolant level sensor you can safe guard yourself against this. you shouldn't have to!!

Oil pump bolts, will have been loctited back in during service, you shouldn't have to!!

Injector looms every 2 years??? Maybe. They're about $250 again, you shouldn't have to!!

l understand what your saying but l think most of the frustration comes from, lf they knew about these prob's then why the hell didn't they fix them!!
a similar frustration of mine was that of the ****ing nylon lock washer they use in the dizzy of the 3.9l V8, to lock the rotor shaft down in place WTF is up with that ??
l now have two extra dizzy's in the garage just to be sure because you cant buy the washer of the shelf without forking out $130 of a new service pack???

with a sense of understanding!

cheers

[disco2hse]

When all else fails, hug your teddy!

Just make certain someone is wearing it at the time :p ;)

[disco2hse]

well why don't you just say how you really feel....:eek:

:lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

We haven't had any trouble with ours but it is still quite new. I honestly think there are a few issues with them but apart from the oil in the loom they aren't very common.

Also, they issues are pretty well known now. I like that. :)

I created one of the big TD5 threads with the intention of getting to know it's characteristics so I can work with them :)

[RonMcGr]

FFS...... what is it with people and anything new on Land Rovers. The td5 is a very good engine as was the tdi, but things have to keep pace.. Yes its more complicated, but so what.... The few issues that have been experienced are well known and should all have been sorted by now...

I am absoloutley sick of this anti td5 cr*p.. For Heavans sake Rover v8s have been fuel inected since 1985 odd and people dont bitch about that.

I am tempted to sell mine and buy a gu patrol just to avoid the 'I wish I had leafsprings still mentality' ...

If you want a td5 buy one.. If you dont. Dont.

oooh its got a few sensors... it must have been created by the devil....:mad:

This post isnt directed at anyone but things move on and in all honesty the td5 isnt that complicated or unreliable!

These posts on forums just extend the myth that there are more issues that there really are....

Rgds
Pete.

That in my book, was totally uncalled for.:mad:
Your comments have very little to do with the original posters, point!
There is a "Rant" area you can use to "Go OFF" !

[RonMcGr]

wont work....

the oil creeps along the wires using capilary action......

if you could seperate and seal the independant strads of the wire you might be in with a shot.

so far the best solution appears to be lifting the top of the injector side plug and filling that with sealastic goop.

Excellent advice, there, Dave :D
You should write a book on diesel Land Rover care.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

That in my book, was totally uncalled for.:mad:
Your comments have very little to do with the original posters, point!
There is a "Rant" area you can use to "Go OFF" !

Actually I know how he feels. In some of the td5 threads there are a number of people that have really attacked and said they are useless because they have electronics in them basically.

Its been happening for a while so I can understand this thread.

[RonMcGr]

I created one of the big TD5 threads with the intention of getting to know it's characteristics so I can work with them :)

Well done! :D
That is the type of thing that is more important to owners of TD5's :clap2::clap2:

[x-box]

My 'fender is also a "99 model TD5, with no issues at all for an old girl, apart from "normal" wear-and-tear items. 186k on the clock and still going where i point her, battlescars galore and a few mods, but i love her.
Like a good dog, you have to take care of a diesel, know her moods, feed regularly and act accordingly, or she will bite you.
This TD5 is my first diesel ever and i'm hooked. With this forum and it's people there is over enough advice and knowledge to keep her going and fix problems - so i know how you feel pete :eek:

[Psimpson7]

Hi guys... Was interested to see what response I got this morning after I had calmed down, and it seems not that many people are disagreeing with me...

Anyone who knows me will know that I am a pretty easy going person but these threads really are basically pointless.

I agree forums are a great place to learn about the cars and their faults, but to start a thread just listing some apparent faults for no reason is not helpful.

There have been some really long td5 threads recentley and one of the mods has started a td5 technical thread with links to all the other ones, so surely thats a good place to start.

Anyway hope I didnt offend anyone, but thats how I feel.

Pete

[5teve]

Hi guys

im in agreement with pete (although im guessing a bad mood caused the snap :D ), example being a friend has just bought a TD5 disco II impulse buy cause it was cheap. she called me while i was on holiday saying oh my god what have i done i have just looked on the net and there are so many bad expensive problems with the engine... im thinking of not getting it now. so i had to reassure her that its just the nature of forums and that most of the issues are fixed cheaply.

i also suggested she should look at a 3l nissan and search for piston failure in those, and landcruiser v8's having piston failure also, and then basically searching for nissan and toyota problems and see what they came up with.

suffice to say that she bought the car in the end.

there are a few problems which we all know about and as stated previously are cheap to fix or prevent. things like the harness are almost service items for the $150 ish that they are to replace. Also tho as stated, landrover know the problem so 'should' do the right thing and sort them out, as they have in other countries. i guess im being nice and agreeing with all of you! :D

Ronmc

you do seem to jump on people for making posts that appear snappy, im reading more and more of them. Pete said that it wasnt directed at anyone and i thought it was pretty relavent as there is a lot of scaremongering. my opinion was that your post was at least as irrelavent. like i say my own opinion i dont mean offence, im just getting a little weary with posts going off in to a giant argument and bitching (this isnt directed at you by the way :) ). fortunatly this time Pete just said sorry and got on with it... but a lot of posts seem to get a reaction which is sad.

we are all her for the love of landies and the help of what are a great bunch of guys with a huge wealth of knowledge, and the ability to speak our minds. i for one am getting a little tired of seeing posts being marred by constant sniping (directed at nobody in particular) so lets all just get on with what we originally came here for.. free speech, free info, free humour, friggin fantastic forum.

Thanks

Steve

[5teve]

Well done! :D
That is the type of thing that is more important to owners of TD5's :clap2::clap2:


and yes ron i wholeheartedly agree... this bit is very important to the td5 owner :D hence the reason im here! (although im sure there are some that wish i wasnt!)

Thanks

Steve

[stevo68]

I am looking at a TD5 today, now in terms of log books etc is there anything you can pickup by reading through? Those that know me, know I'm not the most technically advanced or mechanically minded. I have looked at this one before and going back for a second look/ drive. Thanks,

Regards

Stevo

[5teve]

I am looking at a TD5 today, now in terms of log books etc is there anything you can pickup by reading through? Those that know me, know I'm not the most technically advanced or mechanically minded. I have looked at this one before and going back for a second look/ drive. Thanks,

Regards

Stevo

i guess just any recalls that have been done, and that it has a full history, preferably by someone that knows what they are doing with landies!

receipts are always helpful for any parts... and i suppose as usual a full inspection being done by someone that knows the td5's so they can check for oil in the harness and anything else that maybe an issue...

you could always get a history check done from the landrover system.. using vin and engine number.. that should list service actions if its been done at a dealer..

whats the details on the car? number of k's age etc etc etc that may help as the newer td5's had fixes so other maybe able to be a bit more pointed...

Thanks

Steve

[RonMcGr]

Ronmc

you do seem to jump on people for making posts that appear snappy, im reading more and more of them. Pete said that it wasnt directed at anyone and i thought it was pretty relavent as there is a lot of scaremongering. my opinion was that your post was at least as irrelavent. like i say my own opinion i dont mean offence, im just getting a little weary with posts going off in to a giant argument and bitching (this isnt directed at you by the way :) ). fortunatly this time Pete just said sorry and got on with it... but a lot of posts seem to get a reaction which is sad.

we are all her for the love of landies and the help of what are a great bunch of guys with a huge wealth of knowledge, and the ability to speak our minds. i for one am getting a little tired of seeing posts being marred by constant sniping (directed at nobody in particular) so lets all just get on with what we originally came here for.. free speech, free info, free humour, friggin fantastic forum.

Thanks

Steve

Steve,

I can give back as good as I get.
Hopefully, one day everyone will sit back and look at what is going on.
I'm not even game to start a thread after the "attacks" from last few :(

[stevo68]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/53512-i-need-hug-3.html#post713356)
I am looking at a TD5 today, now in terms of log books etc is there anything you can pickup by reading through? Those that know me, know I'm not the most technically advanced or mechanically minded. I have looked at this one before and going back for a second look/ drive. Thanks,

Regards

Stevo

i guess just any recalls that have been done, and that it has a full history, preferably by someone that knows what they are doing with landies!

receipts are always helpful for any parts... and i suppose as usual a full inspection being done by someone that knows the td5's so they can check for oil in the harness and anything else that maybe an issue...

you could always get a history check done from the landrover system.. using vin and engine number.. that should list service actions if its been done at a dealer..

whats the details on the car? number of k's age etc etc etc that may help as the newer td5's had fixes so other maybe able to be a bit more pointed...

Thanks

Steve Thanks for that Steve, it is an 03 Disco TD5, 83000kms, looks like it has only even been a "town" car, underneath is spotless ie no dents, dings, light scuff mark on the front bumper and that is about it,

Regards

Stevo

[cartm58]

FFS...... what is it with people and anything new on Land Rovers. The td5 is a very good engine as was the tdi, but things have to keep pace.. Yes its more complicated, but so what.... The few issues that have been experienced are well known and should all have been sorted by now...

I am absoloutley sick of this anti td5 cr*p.. For Heavans sake Rover v8s have been fuel inected since 1985 odd and people dont bitch about that.

I am tempted to sell mine and buy a gu patrol just to avoid the 'I wish I had leafsprings still mentality' ...

If you want a td5 buy one.. If you dont. Dont.

oooh its got a few sensors... it must have been created by the devil....:mad:

This post isnt directed at anyone but things move on and in all honesty the td5 isnt that complicated or unreliable!

These posts on forums just extend the myth that there are more issues that there really are....

Rgds
Pete.

Just to clarify things the GU Patrol had coil springs not leaf the last Patrol with leaf springs set up was the MQ series

[5teve]

Steve,

I can give back as good as I get.
Hopefully, one day everyone will sit back and look at what is going on.
I'm not even game to start a thread after the "attacks" from last few :(

im with you there... i wish they would hurry up and see whats happening... maybe its something in all that water thats been falling :D

i hadnt seen the attacks from the last few... sorry... i probably got a bit of a skewed view of some of your responses then :oops2:

Thanks

Steve

[5teve]

Thanks for that Steve, it is an 03 Disco TD5, 83000kms, looks like it has only even been a "town" car, underneath is spotless ie no dents, dings, light scuff mark on the front bumper and that is about it,

Regards

Stevo

03 facelift (ie the small round lights and cdl?) model? i think most issues had been sorted by then, or at least less susceptible.

the light scuff on the bumper sounds a bit dodgy... i wouldnt buy it :D i need a bit more damage than that to justify knocking the price down a stack!

if it is facelift and history and a check comes out ok.. and its the right price then it should be an ok buy... but as with anything car related ... things can still go wrong!

Thanks

Steve

[Tango51]

What sort of money are they asking for, if you don't mind?

[stevo68]

03 facelift (ie the small round lights and cdl?) model? i think most issues had been sorted by then, or at least less susceptible.

the light scuff on the bumper sounds a bit dodgy... i wouldnt buy it :D i need a bit more damage than that to justify knocking the price down a stack!

if it is facelift and history and a check comes out ok.. and its the right price then it should be an ok buy... but as with anything car related ... things can still go wrong!

Thanks

Steve Yep its the update model, has CDL, new lights etc. Would be buying it with a 3 yr warranty and getting tyres changed as well.


What sort of money are they asking for, if you don't mind? They do have it on for $39,999 but I wouldnt buy it at that price, would go early 30's. Will know one way or the other this afternoon,

Regards

Stevo

[5teve]

wow... thats a lots of $$ (asking price)

the facelifts normally go for more.. but thats excessive... mines a 2002 non facelift (obviously) no ace but everything else (except cdl).. same k's and full dealer history... i paid 21k 18 months ago... mind you it was a good price...

with a 3 year warranty especially if its one worth the paper its written on... at least you have peace of mind... and new tyres saves you a grand..

good luck

Thanks

Steve

[stevo68]

wow... thats a lots of $$ (asking price)

the facelifts normally go for more.. but thats excessive... mines a 2002 non facelift (obviously) no ace but everything else (except cdl).. same k's and full dealer history... i paid 21k 18 months ago... mind you it was a good price...

with a 3 year warranty especially if its one worth the paper its written on... at least you have peace of mind... and new tyres saves you a grand..

good luck

Thanks

Steve Yeah I know, but wouldnt pay that, have done a bit of research on a fair and reasonable price. If you want a V8, there are heaps around, bloody good prices. Was weighing up V8 fuel and lower price versus TD5 fuel and higher price. With the amount of km's I do the diesel is better suited, though will miss the V8....for now anyway :),

Regards

Stevo

[Tango51]

That's the spirit, go in hard!
Good luck!

[V8Hybrid]

They are a good motor so don't be scared by what you read.
There has been a lot of scaremongering about Td5's (not just on forums), but they are a good motor. We deal with 100's Td5 on a daily basis (not a 100 a day:o 1or 2 a day) and yes we have replaced heads /gaskets, harness, oil coolers, fuel blocks, rebuilt engines cos of oil pump bolts the list goes on. However saying all that it is only a small percentage of the total Td5 out there. As for people saying the electrics are no good, the Td5 electric system is great and easy to work with (If you have a diagnostic system, which goes for all new vehicles these days). I would say the 2AM system on early V8 is a horrible system but you hardly hear boo from people with early classics.
Again a lot of the problems are teething problem all new motors/vehicles have and by 2002 (2A VIN) these problems have usually been fixed.
If any Land Rover engine deserves a bad name its the 1.8K and KV6 in the Freelanders. We have had nothing but problems with these engines.
So in the end from some one who sees them every day. They are a good motor IMHO.

Oh and yes I don't own one because I love my Classic and Hybrid and V8's ...but I wouldn't have a problem with owning one.

[stevo68]

That's the spirit, go in hard!
Good luck!
__________________ That shouldn't be a problem, I'm not always known for going in easy :), well unless it is my youngins :D.


They are a good motor so don't be scared by what you read.
There has been a lot of scaremongering about Td5's (not just on forums), but they are a good motor. We deal with 100's Td5 on a daily basis (not a 100 a day:o 1or 2 a day) and yes we have replaced heads /gaskets, harness, oil coolers, fuel blocks, rebuilt engines cos of oil pump bolts the list goes on. However saying all that it is only a small percentage of the total Td5 out there. As for people saying the electrics are no good, the Td5 electric system is great and easy to work with (If you have a diagnostic system, which goes for all new vehicles these days). I would say the 2AM system on early V8 is a horrible system but you hardly hear boo from people with early classics.
Again a lot of the problems are teething problem all new motors/vehicles have and by 2002 (2A VIN) these problems have usually been fixed.
If any Land Rover engine deserves a bad name its the 1.8K and KV6 in the Freelanders. We have had nothing but problems with these engines.
So in the end from some one who sees them every day. They are a good motor IMHO.

Oh and yes I don't own one because I love my Classic and Hybrid and V8's ...but I wouldn't have a problem with owning one. Good info, never had a diesel before, so I can see me asking a few questions:angel:, most likely get one of my diesel/ mechanic savvy club members to show me a few things as well...like general maintenance.

Regards

Stevo

[RonMcGr]

Yeah I know, but wouldnt pay that, have done a bit of research on a fair and reasonable price. If you want a V8, there are heaps around, bloody good prices. Was weighing up V8 fuel and lower price versus TD5 fuel and higher price. With the amount of km's I do the diesel is better suited, though will miss the V8....for now anyway :),

Regards

Stevo

Stevo,

Don't get too "hung up" on the price.
Remember I paid top dollar for a 10 year old V8 that had 102thou on the clock and was also black and shiny underneath.

It's the old story, you get what you pay for.
Mine has been fantastic and yours will be as well.

No stress from bush work and you know where is hasn't been. That is the GOOD part :D

[stevo68]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/53512-i-need-hug-4.html#post713416)
Yeah I know, but wouldnt pay that, have done a bit of research on a fair and reasonable price. If you want a V8, there are heaps around, bloody good prices. Was weighing up V8 fuel and lower price versus TD5 fuel and higher price. With the amount of km's I do the diesel is better suited, though will miss the V8....for now anyway :),

Regards

Stevo

Stevo,

Don't get too "hung up" on the price.
Remember I paid top dollar for a 10 year old V8 that had 102thou on the clock and was also black and shiny underneath.

It's the old story, you get what you pay for.
Mine has been fantastic and yours will be as well.

No stress from bush work and you know where is hasn't been. That is the GOOD part :D
I have to get a little "hung up" otherwise won't be able to convice SWMBO about the mods I want to do :D. Will be heading off shortly to see it, so will update later today when I get back...see if the dealer is "dreaammiinnnggg" or realistic,

Regards

Stevo

[Panda]

All too complicated for me ... glad I've got my SIII, wouldn't change it for the world:)

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Steve...why would you get a disco? Why not a defender when you already have a D3? I presume it would be an addition or a replacement?

[stevo68]

Steve...why would you get a disco? Why not a defender when you already have a D3? I presume it would be an addition or a replacement? Hey mate...in simple terms with growing a business and soon to be 5 childrens mouths to feed and one income, a cost of $2000+ p.m is just not a luxury I want to maintain anymore. A week ago I spent over $200 on fuel :eek:. I drive to Brisbane 3 times a week, there and back to pick up two of my children to bring them down here....a diesel will be more economical as a round trip up and back is about 160kms:o.

I've been wanting to sell it for a while but the gap was too far ie what I could get for it versus what I needed to get for it. It has still cost me $6k to get out of it:(. I have a beautiful home on acreage and other things I want to get involved with and the $$ can be better spent on making more $$$ as to an ongoing...large liability.

So I did look at Fenders and that is where my heart is....one day I will have a 130 if some of my plans come to fruition. With 5 children, the Fender just didnt suit and hence the option to go with a Disco does. Had another test drive today...and now the negotiating begins:twisted:. I have laid down my cards and now waiting to see what they come back with.

Regards

Stevo

[GuyG]

Hey Stevo, you forgot to wave on Gympie Rd this afternoon:D

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Hey mate...in simple terms with growing a business and soon to be 5 childrens mouths to feed and one income, a cost of $2000+ p.m is just not a luxury I want to maintain anymore. A week ago I spent over $200 on fuel :eek:. I drive to Brisbane 3 times a week, there and back to pick up two of my children to bring them down here....a diesel will be more economical as a round trip up and back is about 160kms:o.

I've been wanting to sell it for a while but the gap was too far ie what I could get for it versus what I needed to get for it. It has still cost me $6k to get out of it:(. I have a beautiful home on acreage and other things I want to get involved with and the $$ can be better spent on making more $$$ as to an ongoing...large liability.

So I did look at Fenders and that is where my heart is....one day I will have a 130 if some of my plans come to fruition. With 5 children, the Fender just didnt suit and hence the option to go with a Disco does. Had another test drive today...and now the negotiating begins:twisted:. I have laid down my cards and now waiting to see what they come back with.

Regards

Stevo

Fair enough mate :) I thought it was an addition. If you were looking to one vehicle I would do the same. It's a 7 seater I presume?

[stevo68]

Hey Stevo, you forgot to wave on Gympie Rd this afternoon:D I waved :D, sometimes a bit hard to see through the tint, thought it was you going the other way.


Fair enough mate :) I thought it was an addition. If you were looking to one vehicle I would do the same. It's a 7 seater I presume? Yep 7 seater, once the bub arrives, we will need at least 6 seats anytime we head out,

regards

Stevo

[CraigE]

I dont think we are reading the same post. There are not many who are agreeing with you, maybe one outright. Most have actually stated the understand the concerns, but most concerns are more scare mongering. However they do exist. Yes there are other sections around here that deal with these questions but this is also a general forum area and a lot of new people are still finding their way around.
The point of this site is to give people information and ther is no way that post was offensive or should not be included.
If you do not agree say so and move on.
There are many many new people coming to this site for advice and who know nothing about Land Rovers and their perceived problems. Dont shoot them down for asking. If you dont have something constructive to say to them make your point and move on. Leave it to people that are prepared to answer questions honestly for these people.We have all had to learn about misconceptions. There are way to many new people on this forum that think it is their god given right to be little other people lately. Good way to put new and old members alike off coming here.
The only dumb question, is the question that is not asked!


Hi guys... Was interested to see what response I got this morning after I had calmed down, and it seems not that many people are disagreeing with me...

Anyone who knows me will know that I am a pretty easy going person but these threads really are basically pointless.

I agree forums are a great place to learn about the cars and their faults, but to start a thread just listing some apparent faults for no reason is not helpful.

There have been some really long td5 threads recentley and one of the mods has started a td5 technical thread with links to all the other ones, so surely thats a good place to start.

Anyway hope I didnt offend anyone, but thats how I feel.

Pete

[gsang110]

Have had my TD5 for 6 years now and was coasting along as happy as Larry till reading TD5 threads on home page, got a shock at how expensive some problems can be. Feel a lot better now I've read how they can be managed, will get coolant level sensor/alarm as soon as can locate one, any clues? I see there is add for coolant alarms on top of page, is this the way to go?
Appologies to those I have upset, I didn't get to many hugs but a few good kickings

Graham

[Kalbee118]

Have had my TD5 for 6 years now and was coasting along as happy as Larry till reading TD5 threads on home page, got a shock at how expensive some problems can be. Feel a lot better now I've read how they can be managed, will get coolant level sensor/alarm as soon as can locate one, any clues? I see there is add for coolant alarms on top of page, is this the way to go?
Appologies to those I have upset, I didn't get to many hugs but a few good kickings

Graham

Hi gsang110,
I have jsut installed the one advertised here ww.enginesaver.com.au. I purchased the inline one and was easy to install.

[gsang110]

Hi Johnny
Did it match your top hose size or did you need adapters?
gsang110

[CraigE]

Just to clarify things the GU Patrol had coil springs not leaf the last Patrol with leaf springs set up was the MQ series
MK Patrol actually (same shape as MQ) I had one. Some of the GU or whatever it was after the MK had leafs, not all were coil but was the start of the coils for Nissan. To be specific the utes still came with leaf as well.

[BradM]

It is a shame that the TD5 gets knocked so much as it is a fantastic power house for it's 2.5 litre capacity.

Like all small deisel engines it needs a pile of turbo boost to make it go properly. I would like to know what the comparison size of a conventional deisel is when the TD5 is on at 16 psi boost. I guesstamate about 5 litres?

I owned a 2.8TD Nissan GQ Patrol before it which I traded in on the Discovery II. It had a lot of knockers as well but it never let me down ever. The TD5 to date has always got me home or where I was going.

When a TD5 is running well with no problems it is a fun machine to drive. Any problems with boost, EGR or fuel delivery and you will know it in a big hurry but is that not what you want to know any way? :)

A TDV6 with a 6 speed auto would be nice though..Hmmmmm

BradM