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DRanged
19th March 2008, 06:57 PM
Hey guys
Thought I would stick this in here first before the market section.
Top mount intercooler with bracket to bolt to intake manifold and bonnet scoop $120 + freight. No hoses as they were reused to suit another project.
All as per photo. ( was in a RRC)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/315.jpg
Regards Justin
EchiDna
19th March 2008, 07:44 PM
one would need a bonnet scoop to make it worthwhile correct?
so what are you changing to? front mount? water to air?
DRanged
19th March 2008, 09:09 PM
one would need a bonnet scoop to make it worthwhile correct?
so what are you changing to? front mount? water to air?
It comes with a scoop Similar to GU nissan type.
Changing to a bigger top mount to help with pushing the 35"' tyres etc.
Justin
def-90
20th March 2008, 09:29 AM
hey justin mate where did you get those front turretts from? did you make them?
ooopps, i still owe you a stick of knead-it.
DRanged
20th March 2008, 08:30 PM
hey justin mate where did you get those front turretts from? did you make them?
ooopps, i still owe you a stick of knead-it.
Yep made them a few years ago. Just standard height got the tube bent up at a local tube benders and machined up the bottom plate. Welded them up and powder coated them.
Justin
Why dont you come down to Emu Creek for a hard run in April with us. I,ll even let you buy me a tube of ''Knead It''
Justin
Larns
20th March 2008, 09:43 PM
Justin
I've hear from the boys at KLR that an intercooler did F*#@ all on the 4BD1-T, They did mention that they tried it on the non waste gated turbo version, but alas this is what I have.
Your opinion?
:twobeers:
andrew e
20th March 2008, 11:12 PM
My water to air IC knocks between 25 and 35 degrees off the intake temps.
DRanged
21st March 2008, 02:34 PM
Justin
I've hear from the boys at KLR that an intercooler did F*#@ all on the 4BD1-T, They did mention that they tried it on the non waste gated turbo version, but alas this is what I have.
Your opinion?
:twobeers:
Any engine will perform better if you can reduce the intake temp of the air. I know the KLR boys very well and their Isuzu rangies are intercooled:cool:. Funny that.
Justin
Dougal
22nd March 2008, 07:54 AM
Justin
I've hear from the boys at KLR that an intercooler did F*#@ all on the 4BD1-T, They did mention that they tried it on the non waste gated turbo version, but alas this is what I have.
Your opinion?
:twobeers:
Isuzu even intercooled the 4BD2 themselves.
If you're running under 10psi boost then it's a take it or leave it thing. But who runs less than 10psi boost?
Larns
22nd March 2008, 10:57 AM
The factory turbo has two models, mines the model without the wastegate. Havn't tested mine personaly but a mate that has the same set up had it run up on the dyno, and boost peaked at around 8 psi.
I wouldn't mind more but don't want to sacrifice reliability.
:twobeers:
justinc
22nd March 2008, 11:49 AM
I've intercooled mine, BIG frontmount. I have no before and after figures, but after a long hard climb, I can barely touch the turbo outlet pipe into the IC, and the outlet to the manifold is cool to the touch. I would say it is doing its job. I'm running 15psi at the manifold.
After I replace the trans, I'll try and do a dyno run for interests sake.
And yes, anything less than 10Psi it is debateable as to whether it is worthwhile.
JC
Dougal
22nd March 2008, 12:13 PM
After I replace the trans, I'll try and do a dyno run for interests sake.
What're you doing to the trans and how do you dyno them (2wheel, 4 wheel etc)?
Dougal
22nd March 2008, 12:18 PM
The factory turbo has two models, mines the model without the wastegate. Havn't tested mine personaly but a mate that has the same set up had it run up on the dyno, and boost peaked at around 8 psi.
I wouldn't mind more but don't want to sacrifice reliability.
:twobeers:
There are at least 3 turbos.
IHI RHB6. Wastegated, top mount
Garrett T25 wastegated.
Garrett T25 free floating with T3 mounting flange.
justinc
22nd March 2008, 12:24 PM
Hi Dougal,
I am on my 4th set of transfer case thrust washers, after about 30,000km!(LT95):(
I have recently bought an Ex Mil 6X6 LT95, with taper roller TF case etc, and this is going in shortly.
Local TAFE has a 4 wheel dyno, I'm offering the truck for a night course dyno run if they are interested...:twisted::twisted:
JC
Dougal
22nd March 2008, 12:33 PM
Local TAFE has a 4 wheel dyno, I'm offering the truck for a night course dyno run if they are interested...:twisted::twisted:
JC
You're a genius.:D
We have to get you onto an Isuzu MSA box too.
def-90
22nd March 2008, 03:58 PM
hey justin emu sounds good haven't been there for years! i've been meaning to get to the coast and join, but last year just dissappeared!
i'm keen though, i'll have a look at the GCLROC and see when, and when next meeting,
cheers mate
sam
Vern
30th January 2012, 04:57 PM
Justin, old thread i know, but any pics of your new top mount intercooler????? Interested to see what you've done, i can't fit a front mount and don't want a water to air
DRanged
30th January 2012, 09:47 PM
Vern
not a real good photo mate but it is 450 x 450 x 75 and does a good job although mounting it to the motor is not a good idea. Body mount is better.43051
Justin
Vern
30th January 2012, 09:59 PM
Is that core size or overall? I have one here thats 450x300x75 core size, but boy it takes up a lot of room. Hoping to find something factory for ease of parts
Dougal
31st January 2012, 06:11 AM
A lot of japanese vans (incl prados and 200 cruisers) run a top-mount which is fed air by ducts under the bonnet which lead towards the grille. Could be worth a look at.
DRanged
31st January 2012, 07:25 PM
Is that core size or overall? I have one here thats 450x300x75 core size, but boy it takes up a lot of room. Hoping to find something factory for ease of parts
Overall mate and yes they take up a heap of room.
Justin
landrover dave
2nd February 2012, 07:02 PM
A top mount intercooler will not work as efficiantly as a front monted cooler. 1st there is little area on top of the motor to fit the intercooler and where is the air going to go to? Straight into a hot motor! 2ndly a bonnet scoop is not very efficient as the hole in the front is usually in a low air pressure area. Look at the reversed scoops HDT put on Toranas and Commoders, The base of the windscreen is a high air pressure area and the reversed scoops got more air to the carby than a front facing scoop! The most common mod Toyota and Nissan owners do to their top mount intercoolers is fit a thermofan that runs the whole time the engine runs!
A lot of japanese vans (incl prados and 200 cruisers) run a top-mount which is fed air by ducts under the bonnet which lead towards the grille. Could be worth a look at.
DRanged
2nd February 2012, 07:39 PM
A top mount intercooler will not work as efficiantly as a front monted cooler.[
Yep we sort of worked this one out mate;)
If you read our posts we run AC and high mount winches, which leaves us a top mount as our only choice. I also run vents in the sides of the bonnet to help reduce and positive pressure that is under it.
Justin
Vern
2nd February 2012, 07:59 PM
pretty sure a top mount will run more efficiantly than no intercooler;). All modern deisels seem to be running top mounts these days. I'm looking to put mine on the drivers side of the engine with a 10" thermo fan under it for low speed work. Will keep investimagating it:)
Could hook the thermo up to a relay for when the EGT's start getting high
Dougal
3rd February 2012, 06:03 AM
Could hook the thermo up to a relay for when the EGT's start getting high
A boost switch would be the easiest way. I wonder if a radiator thermo-fan switch would work as a boost temperature switch? A 90C cut-in temp from the turbo could work nicely.
Vern
18th June 2013, 09:08 PM
Still thinking this is the way to go for me (top mount I/c). Any chance you have a better pic dranged?
flagg
19th June 2013, 04:31 PM
If you read our posts we run AC and high mount winches, which leaves us a top mount as our only choice. I also run vents in the sides of the bonnet to help reduce and positive pressure that is under it.
Justin
FWIW This is why I went WTA. bit more expensive and complicated but it is an option.
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