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drivesafe
29th March 2008, 10:22 AM
Hi folks, I have been following some threads on this site and few other LR sites and reading about the many new features in the new LR models.

I have come across quite a few features on the D3 that I either was not aware of or reading the manual, were not that well explained.

Then this morning while going through the manual for my FFRR I came across something unrelated to what I was looking for.

It seems that unlike my 03 FFRR, the 07 FFRR not only has the ability to be raised to go off road but if the vehicle speed is under 20 kph, it can be raised even higher.

Now this type of info discovery has been posted in a number of threads here and elsewhere and I was thinking that a decent training and feature operations DVD could be made.

My idea would be to put as much info about the features and how to use them, for as many different types of LRs, old and new and some driver training operations, EG correct way to do snatch recoveries and the likes, and put all this info on a 2 hour DVD.

The master DVD could then be given to Incisor and then copies could be bought from him with all profits from the DVD going to help cover some of the AULRO site running cost.

Any suggestion?

ivery819
29th March 2008, 10:37 AM
Top idea !

The new models, in particular, seem to have more undocumented features being discovered every day. There is no doubt that while they may need less driver skill to drive off-road they also need more knowledge to perform at their best.
Knowing what the vehicle is capable of can also be a safety issue !
A comprehensive DVD of this nature would have a much wider appeal than just AULRO and should be able to attract selected commercial sponsors.
The idea has my support.
(the P38a would need a disk of it's own !)

inside
29th March 2008, 01:25 PM
Great idea! There are certainly a lot of features that new LRs have.

For example with my FL2 when your washer fluid is running low the headlight washers will no longer function or the over boost function of the turbo that can give you more power under certain conditions.

Myself I would like to know more details about the drive train and how the diffs and traction control operate. I am happy to donate my time for recording and editing the video. I have an OK video camera and am proficient with Final Cut Pro on the Mac.

drivesafe
1st April 2008, 08:37 AM
Hi Inside, may very well take you up on that offer.

Have to get a bit better sorted so I can see what people are interested in seeing on a training video.

I’ve had a look at few that are available and most don’t really cover all that much.

I would imagine that there will be heaps of room on a 2 hour DVD to be able to include clips of AULRO members in action as well.

But will see hope the idea develops.

Cheers and thank for the offer.

drivesafe
1st April 2008, 09:08 AM
Top idea !

The new models, in particular, seem to have more undocumented features being discovered every day. There is no doubt that while they may need less driver skill to drive off-road they also need more knowledge to perform at their best.
Knowing what the vehicle is capable of can also be a safety issue !
A comprehensive DVD of this nature would have a much wider appeal than just AULRO and should be able to attract selected commercial sponsors.
The idea has my support.
(the P38a would need a disk of it's own !)

Hi ivery819 ( and everybody else ), please post a list of any specific thinks you would like to see so I and others can get some things rolling.

Cheers

WhiteD3
1st April 2008, 09:20 AM
For the D3, where do you start!

Jacking.
The drive train.
TR - There's probably a DVD in this alone!
Air suspension
DSC - When and how this thing works!
Limp home mode. Haven't experienced it and don't want to!
Recovery points.
Wading depth and the location of critical electronics.

WhiteD3
1st April 2008, 09:26 AM
Tim,

Here's the cynic in me floating to the surface. I know you would have thought this through (and I for one think its a good idea:D) but how would the information covered be vetted for accuracy?

You'd be leaving yourself open for criticism (at least) from those nit pickers who need a issue to vent on. Examples are the trashing (right or wrong) of articles and write-ups in the 4WD mags.

Maybe there's a lawyer amongst us who could write a good CYA rider.

Redback
1st April 2008, 09:41 AM
Towing a caravan:wasntme:









































































Shutup Ron:p

Disco300Tdi
1st April 2008, 10:34 AM
Do not leave drivers seat after the cruise control has been activated and the vehicle is in motion.......:eek:
















































Sorry Tim......;)
I do agree totally that there are many unexplained features...a great idea

Fusion
1st April 2008, 11:10 AM
I'll donate some cash to cover the cost of buying the blank disc's and covers . not much help but every little bit counts :).

gghaggis
1st April 2008, 11:40 AM
Myself and my business partner have actually registered a company to do just this (Green Oval Experience) - train new drivers of the D3/RRS/Vogue in the peculiarities of these vehicles. I've just finished writing the handbook for the course, and it runs out to over 50 pages:eek:

So I doubt you'd cover everything in one DVD for all these cars.

And yes, we had to get a lawyer involved.

Cheers,

Gordon

drivesafe
1st April 2008, 12:13 PM
OK folks, this is not intended as a workshop manual replacement or the ultimate guide to off road driving.

This is more intended as beginners guide to vehicle features and the off road basics to allow owners to get a better feel for their particular landy.

I got a superb DVD covering my last RR, sent to me from a mate in the States. The problem was that most of the info did not relate to my RR even though it was the same model.

The idea is to cover features commonly found in a number of Landies and the different ways of implementing them.

As I post at the beginning of this thread, I was unaware that I had two levels of off road height available to me until I found out about it by accident.

The idea is not only how these features are implemented but how they can be put to use.

I have Venture Cam in the RR, never used it but on the last trip to Boonah, if I had had it set up on the passenger side of the RR I might have been able to see how close I was getting to a log laying in a creek I was trying to wade.

I also have a reversing camera in the new RR. I found it to be next to useless until I read a thread on them on an RR site where one guy finds it great for lining up to couple to his trailer, a use I had never thought of.

It’s these sorts of “how to use” ideas I’m wanting to put on the DVD.

So keep the ideas and suggestions coming.

Bushwanderer
1st April 2008, 01:03 PM
For the D3, where do you start!

Jacking.
The drive train.
TR - There's probably a DVD in this alone!
Air suspension
DSC - When and how this thing works!
Limp home mode. Haven't experienced it and don't want to!
Recovery points.
Wading depth and the location of critical electronics.

Hi All,
This shows the complexity of the endeavour (and its value). Eg: My D3 is a model S with manual suspension.:

The jacking points (& jacks) are different. (Mine is a bottle jack),

I don't have TR, but agree that it is universally applauded,

I have coils (which are too short),

DSC - (please)! On a recent trip to Stockton Beach (near Newcastle, NSW), I read the manual regarding when & where DSC should be engaged/disengaged. There were so many qualifiers in the doc that I found it impossible to decide whether DSC would be better engaged or not. I even spoke to one of the trainers (who was unfamiliar with D3s) & he couldn't interpret the LR gobbledegook ('sp) either.

Limp home mode! Is that where you sprain an ankle?

Recovery Points: Aren't the D3 front & rear points all you need?

Wading depth: Isn't that where, beyond that, my partner has to swim?

WhiteD3
1st April 2008, 02:15 PM
Recovery Points: Aren't the D3 front & rear points all you need?

The front recovery point is not rated (we think) and is intended for tie down or winching onto a flatbed.


Wading depth: Isn't that where, beyond that, my partner has to swim?

:Rolling::Rolling: Having recently seen someone drown an RR I decided it would be wise to understand the D3's limitations.