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dirtdawg
8th April 2008, 04:49 PM
hey guys a mate of mine owns a steel fabrication buisness basically making anything in steel ppl order and he said if i show him a few pics of a winch bar and rock sliders i want he will make them and since once the jig is made up its easy to run off how ever many more we want, and the more we order the cheaper it gets so for the rock sliders i will prob get something similer to the all range ones and as for the winch bar well it depends on what we all agree on as there will only be 1 choice so once i have pics of what we want he will draw it up on auto cad and give me a price, but remember the more orders the cheaper it will be!!!!!! (he will be charging for the price of steel and what ever it takes in labour so it will be a lot cheaper than anywhere else)

twigrx7
8th April 2008, 05:12 PM
hey guys a mate of mine owns a steel fabrication buisness basically making anything in steel ppl order and he said if i show him a few pics of a winch bar and rock sliders i want he will make them and since once the jig is made up its easy to run off how ever many more we want, and the more we order the cheaper it gets so for the rock sliders i will prob get something similer to the all range ones and as for the winch bar well it depends on what we all agree on as there will only be 1 choice so once i have pics of what we want he will draw it up on auto cad and give me a price, but remember the more orders the cheaper it will be!!!!!! (he will be charging for the price of steel and what ever it takes in labour so it will be a lot cheaper than anywhere else)

Can you show my any pics of the rock sliders? ....I'm new to the world of LR. Are they similar to the side steps only stronger?
Would they fit a 2000 D2?
Thanks.

mickashay
8th April 2008, 05:24 PM
that sounds sweet im after a new bar and rocksliders.the all ranges ones look good only thing i was thinking if i get a standerd size rock sliders the larger wheels mite rub but if he can make custom sliders im in and as for a bar i ws after a comp style but needs to suit 2 inch body lift,wombat offroad have a nice style bar if u ckeck out there web sit Wombat Offroad (http://www.wombatoffroad.com.au) so keep us up to date on things

mcrover
8th April 2008, 05:44 PM
that sounds sweet im after a new bar and rocksliders.the all ranges ones look good only thing i was thinking if i get a standerd size rock sliders the larger wheels mite rub but if he can make custom sliders im in and as for a bar i ws after a comp style but needs to suit 2 inch body lift,wombat offroad have a nice style bar if u ckeck out there web sit Wombat Offroad (http://www.wombatoffroad.com.au) so keep us up to date on things

Go and have a look at Jammies D1 at All Ranges as he has a custom tube style winch bar and sliders on his with 35" rubber.

Im pretty sure if you asked him very nicely and bought a heap off him he would do a good deal as well.

He's fitted the bars to 2 D1's and a P38 that I have seen.

DaveS3
8th April 2008, 06:13 PM
I'd be keen on a set of sliders if the price is right :D

What would the market be like for a rear bar to suit d 2'' body lifted D1?

I imagine there would be a few takers.

If you need any help with design I have a few ideas and CAD to draw it all.

Cheers
Dave.

dirtdawg
8th April 2008, 06:27 PM
just seeing how many of you guys will want stuff atm so i can get an idea on numbers i would imagine the sliders wouldnt matter as they bolt to the body anyway (i think?) any the prices prob wont compare to all range (more cheaper) and the will be 1 sort of winch bar and 1 sort of slider so post some pics of what you guys like and we can see what sort of interest we get, i will be getting these for myself regardless just trying to offer you guys some good gear at a cheaper price

dirtdawg
8th April 2008, 06:57 PM
i'll see how it goes with the front bar and sliders then i might look into getting a rear bar, also the sliders and front bar will be coming in raw steel so you can paint it yourself or get it powdercoated, i'm just goin to do mine in black hammer tone so i can easily re paint if i want when it gets stcratched, imo powdercoat is not needed

dirtdawg
8th April 2008, 07:17 PM
this would be a nice bar to have
DISCOVERY TUBULAR WINCH BUMPER (http://www.firstfouroffroad.co.uk/discovery_tubular_winch_bumper.htm)

stuart
8th April 2008, 07:20 PM
mmmyes same as the ones we stock...very very sim to the Scorpion Bar...

Stu



this would be a nice bar to have
DISCOVERY TUBULAR WINCH BUMPER (http://www.firstfouroffroad.co.uk/discovery_tubular_winch_bumper.htm)

dirtdawg
8th April 2008, 07:33 PM
what would the scorpian bar be worth as a group buy and can you post a pic of it

Disco_owner
8th April 2008, 07:35 PM
DD , I've been after a set of Rock Sliders for my D1 .. D-Ranged is Fabricating one and should be done soon I hope. :D:D

mickashay
8th April 2008, 07:49 PM
all ranges make some good ones 4 sale in ebay

dirtdawg
8th April 2008, 07:59 PM
yep they do some good work

Treads
8th April 2008, 09:05 PM
I'd also be interested in a rear bar and perhaps rock sliders (At the right price)

trobbo
9th April 2008, 11:02 AM
It may be that as people already have a selection of winch bars and sliders that there could be more interest for a rear bar.
I would certainly be interested in a real D1 rear bar to suit 2 inch lift. I think brooksy in QLD may make one but apart from that the only other option is rovertym in the states. I like that bar!

RanOver
9th April 2008, 12:40 PM
I would be interested in sliders for D1, depending on price.
I too have CAD if you require drawings.

dirtdawg
9th April 2008, 05:07 PM
the reason i am lookin into getten a winch bar and sliders made is because i believe i can get them at half the cost of the others not cause i want something new

Disco_owner
9th April 2008, 09:52 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/04/585.jpgor


This is a Nice rear Bar? me thinks?

Disco_owner
9th April 2008, 10:00 PM
this would be a nice bar to have
DISCOVERY TUBULAR WINCH BUMPER (http://www.firstfouroffroad.co.uk/discovery_tubular_winch_bumper.htm)

Dawg, are you able to weld something togther like this if you had the Cad Drawings?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Treads
9th April 2008, 10:30 PM
http://www.rovertym.com/wheeling/mar2001/GDrearbump.jpgor


This is a Nice rear Bar? me thinks?

Nice? :cool: That's more than NICE! I want one.....

mns488
10th April 2008, 07:28 AM
all ranges make some good ones 4 sale in ebay
do you have a link?

Xavie
10th April 2008, 07:43 AM
this would be a nice bar to have
DISCOVERY TUBULAR WINCH BUMPER (http://www.firstfouroffroad.co.uk/discovery_tubular_winch_bumper.htm)

Sooooo ugly.

xav

trobbo
10th April 2008, 07:45 AM
I think pics were taken from Jamie's ebay store where he is also selling his jacked up disco (if anyone knows it) for $7500. :o

eBay Australia Shop - All Ranges 4x4: Parts Landrover, Recovery Gear (http://stores.ebay.com.au/All-Ranges-4x4)

trobbo
10th April 2008, 07:47 AM
Who makes the rear bar pictured - i haven't seen that one before? The welds on the side looked a bit messy although it is hard to tell from the shot. But I do like the idea of the rear quarter being cut away and being replaced with something solid. Hmmm I wonder how that would go with the 40 ltr tank that fits up there on gas cars.

The Fish
10th April 2008, 08:27 AM
I am interested in some sliders depending on price and if you are able to post to Queensland. Does anyone have a picture of the all range sliders mounted to a disco?

trobbo
10th April 2008, 09:54 AM
These are the ones from all ranges. he is selling them on his ebay store for $440.

This is the link Extreme Rock Sliders/Side Steps - eBay 4x4 Accessories, Exterior, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 12-Apr-08 21:50:01 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Extreme-Rock-Sliders-Side-Steps_W0QQitemZ220183875530QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3086 2QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem)

Disco_owner
10th April 2008, 10:25 AM
Who makes the rear bar pictured - i haven't seen that one before? The welds on the side looked a bit messy although it is hard to tell from the shot. But I do like the idea of the rear quarter being cut away and being replaced with something solid. Hmmm I wonder how that would go with the 40 ltr tank that fits up there on gas cars.

Rovertym Engineering (http://www.rovertym.com/)

they're featured in the Photos section under;

MAR and Moab by Greg Hren 2001 (http://www.rovertym.com/wheeling/mar2001)

trobbo
10th April 2008, 11:00 AM
This is the one I was aware of that they made. I think it looks a bit neater. I note the photo's were from 2001 so perhaps that was an old design?

dullbird
10th April 2008, 12:38 PM
what about a decent steering protector/bash plate.....i want one of these with good recovery points on them as the ones on my smart bar look a little flimsy......

goldey
10th April 2008, 01:32 PM
Dawg

If your mate could produce a tube bar like the FAT version or even the Scorpion like one I would be very interested :cool:. The sliders are also on my to do list, so any cost info on those would be well received.

As for the rear bar??? My plastic end caps on both front and rear bars are rooted :eek::eek:, so I'd be interested in the rear bar as well I suppose.

dirtdawg
10th April 2008, 03:33 PM
i just emailed my mate a few pics of winch bars and he's gonna get back to me on prices, as for sliders the will most likely be in the rovertym style

V8Landy
10th April 2008, 04:28 PM
I may be interested in some sliders depending on price.(they look similar to ones i was thinking about making)Maybe even winch bar if price and design is right.Cheers Brett

mickashay
10th April 2008, 04:37 PM
Dawg, are you able to weld something togther like this if you had the Cad Drawings?

http://www.firstfouroffroad.co.uk/discov10.jpg

if we could get something like that made up thats perfect as long as it gets made strong enough and 2 suit 2inch bodylifts:):):)

Disco_owner
10th April 2008, 05:06 PM
the reason i am lookin into getten a winch bar and sliders made is because i believe i can get them at half the cost of the others not cause i want something new

mmm ,I 'm not sure how you'ver come to that conclusion ,but I was just merely suggesting that the Rear bar shown in the pic was a Good looking Rear bar if you were to Fabricate a Rear Bar.;)

DaveS3
10th April 2008, 05:53 PM
I think that if your seriously considering doing this and offering these products (either yourself or through the steel fab business) you want to get the designs right.

There are so many designs around, and only a few good ones.

I think you can also do better than the scorpian bar too (but thats my personal opinion)

I will do a few designs a send them over too you within the next week.

Cheers.

dirtdawg
11th April 2008, 03:04 PM
no worries, sounds good

mcrover
11th April 2008, 04:20 PM
Other considerations to think about at least :

If you install a non ADR approoved bar then not only may your vehical unroadworthy also may not be insurable.

If you have SRS airbags then fitting any of those bars make for an illegal mod which then means your vehical is unroadworthy.

Rear bars which incorporate a tow hitch have to be ADR approoved or the same will apply.

I dont think you will be able to build them for 1/2 price if you include steel and labour, maybe if you were to make them for the price of the steel then it's a possability but the labour will kill you.

By the way, Jamies Disco is Buy it now for $10k and is pretty well worth it IMHO.If anyone is interested in details PM me as Ive been out with hin in it a few times and Driven it once (even run into the back of it once lol).

trobbo
11th April 2008, 07:51 PM
By the way, Jamies Disco is Buy it now for $10k and is pretty well worth it IMHO.If anyone is interested in details PM me as Ive been out with hin in it a few times and Driven it once (even run into the back of it once lol).


ooops with an ebay starting price (under reserve) and a buy it now price of $10,500 I dont think he wanted everyone to know that:whistling:

DaveS3
11th April 2008, 08:38 PM
Other considerations to think about at least :

If you install a non ADR approoved bar then not only may your vehical unroadworthy also may not be insurable.

Bull bars only have to be ADR approved if the car has airbags. Otherwise as long as it meets relevant traffic authority standards of design it is fine.

If you have SRS airbags then fitting any of those bars make for an illegal mod which then means your vehical is unroadworthy.

Depends on which year your car is. Airbags can be removed legally if Pre ADR 69 or as a factory option

Rear bars which incorporate a tow hitch have to be ADR approoved or the same will apply.

As long as it meets standards no approval is required. The issue is not necessarily the hitch, it is the mounting of the bar to the chassis.

I dont think you will be able to build them for 1/2 price if you include steel and labour, maybe if you were to make them for the price of the steel then it's a possability but the labour will kill you.

By the way, Jamies Disco is Buy it now for $10k and is pretty well worth it IMHO.If anyone is interested in details PM me as Ive been out with hin in it a few times and Driven it once (even run into the back of it once lol).


Cheers
Dave.

kingyrules
12th April 2008, 04:48 PM
i would be interested in some sliders if the design and price were right, if he decides to make a bash plate i would be interested in that too.
as for the rear bumpers the first one pictured didn't have a tow hitch or room for it so thats NBG, how ever the second one looked like it could work with an existing tow hitch. If it can't tow its a no go:D.

V8Landy
13th April 2008, 05:34 PM
Oh just a thought mine is a 3door so will they fit.Cheers Brett

goldey
16th April 2008, 08:19 PM
Anymore news on this?? I'm getting impatient....:(

dirtdawg
19th April 2008, 12:57 PM
you'll know when i do

mcrover
19th April 2008, 02:04 PM
ooops with an ebay starting price (under reserve) and a buy it now price of $10,500 I dont think he wanted everyone to know that:whistling:

Sorry the buy it now price is $10,500, my mistake.

I havnt spokent to him about him selling it for a while but it is well worth the money in my mind although it's not really my kettle of fish.

dirtdawg
19th April 2008, 04:54 PM
and thats relevant to this thread how??

Siska
19th April 2008, 07:55 PM
I would be interested in some sliders for a 3 door also. That's if shipping to WA is available? If so what would be a rough estimate of shipping costs?

Thanks,

Dannie

Disco95
20th April 2008, 07:20 PM
I'd be interested in sliders if the price is right.

mcrover
20th April 2008, 08:07 PM
and thats relevant to this thread how??


Well it's got a bar and sliders on it that have been mentioned a few times in this thread as well as Troppo mad mention to the fact that I'd made a boo boo so I thought it would be polite to appologise thats all....

No need to get upset, back to your thread then :D

DassaW
21st April 2008, 05:25 PM
Yeah I'm keen on some sliders if the price is right, but just a thought, if they are going to be a set length then they may not fit everyones cars, especially people who have the guards cut and LRA flares.

If they were LRA style sliders, then they can be shortened to suit easily enough, but the rovertym style doesnt look like the length can be changed easily.

Just a thought.:)

Disco95
21st April 2008, 05:54 PM
Yeah I'm keen on some sliders if the price is right, but just a thought, if they are going to be a set length then they may not fit everyones cars, especially people who have the guards cut and LRA flares.

If they were LRA style sliders, then they can be shortened to suit easily enough, but the rovertym style doesnt look like the length can be changed easily.

Just a thought.:)


I agree. I was looking at trying to get some done that look the same as the D1 plastic trims below the doors. I'd say these could be cut down for different vehicles.

dirtdawg
21st April 2008, 09:13 PM
post a pic or a link of the lra ones and i'll show him that one too

DassaW
22nd April 2008, 03:35 PM
Ok here is the link to the LRA sliders

Les Richmond Automotive P/L (http://www.lrautomotive.com.au/238.html)

A few other places also sell this style, like rangie automotive in Lilydale.

Relatively easy to make, and shorten to whatever length, and they are not just a straight bit of tube, they actually have the slight bend to suit the disco sills, thats probably the hardest bit when making these.

Disco95
29th April 2008, 09:13 PM
Any more news on these steel bits?
Just keeping the thread on the front page:BigThumb: