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Utemad
19th April 2008, 03:17 PM
Hello IT people.

I want to set up an email account (maybe 4 or 5) that is able to do POP3 stuff (using Eudora) but totally separate from my internet provider.

The main reason is I want to be able to change my provider to get a better deal every so often but not lose my email addresses.

I googled this and came up with 50 million or so different places. No idea who to choose.


Originally I thought there would be a way to have an address such as justin@myplace.com that would just forward everything it received to my nominated account. Like a front for whatever email account I happened to be using at the time.
However I see that companies will host a domain name for you only for email.

So costs would be
domain name registration
whatever the company charges for email hosting (seems around $20/year).

Any ideas on what I should be doing?

Thanks.

abaddonxi
19th April 2008, 04:29 PM
I use Smartyhost

SmartyHost - Web Hosting and Domain Name Registration (http://smartyhost.com.au/)

Did a com.au domain name for $40 for two years, or something, plus an extra $20 for email hosting. I think that's for 10 x 1Mb email addresses. I get them all forwarded to my isp email address, so the email hosting is just a pass-through with no storage.

It hasn't been a problem for the last couple of years. It took a few days to set up, but that was mostly because I was transferring the domain name from another provider.

Cheers
Simon

p38arover
19th April 2008, 04:32 PM
What about a Gmail address?

moose
19th April 2008, 08:23 PM
^^ I'm with him. I use gmail, never had a problem switching ISP's. POP3 no prob's, used to have it set up thru outlook express (now mozilla firefox).
Its free, can access it from anywhere, it's free, lot's of online space (6gb last I looked), decent spam filter, and it's free!:D

Bush65
19th April 2008, 09:01 PM
I changed to gmail for similar reasons http://www.gmail.com (http://www.gmail.com/)

Utemad
19th April 2008, 10:09 PM
Thanks Simon I'll look into that one.

As for Gmail I've never looked into it before as I didn't know you could use POP3. I'll have a look before I spend any money on other things.

Do you get Google advertising through Gmail? or spam?

With my current provider I get HEAPS of spam as you have to pay another $4 per email account for their proper spam filter. Which I don't as I'd rather hit delete 24355245 times than pay them for something that should be included.

moose
19th April 2008, 10:44 PM
Do you get Google advertising through Gmail? or spam?


I very rarely get spam thru gmail to firefox, if on the rare occasion I do, I go to the online account, mark the email as spam and it updates the spam filter. Never seen google advertising on it either.

HangOver
19th April 2008, 11:21 PM
try Yahoo it does pop3, I've used it for at least 7 years

p38arover
19th April 2008, 11:23 PM
The only problem with Yahoo and Gmail that I see as Admin on RRNET, is that most of the spam registrations use those addresses. Rarely do I see a genuine registration from them.

abaddonxi
20th April 2008, 07:16 AM
I had a look at Gmail when I was doing all this stuff, and it's a wonderful thing, but from what I can see, if you want to have your own domain name, and have the email hosted, then you have to pay $50 a year for Google Apps Premier.

Cheers
Simon

Bush65
20th April 2008, 07:48 AM
POP3 costs extra for yahoo mail.

No cost, or advertising, and very little spam with gmail.

I don't know about Eudora, but the several mail readers I have used allow multiple accounts, so there is no need to redirect yahoo mail or gmail - just set up another account for gmail with POP3 (and SMTP if you want) settings.

Utemad
20th April 2008, 09:58 AM
Well for know I have created a utemad gmail account. I'll see how it goes.

I've also forwarded my normal utemad account to the new gmail account. I wonder if it will filter the copious amounts of spam that the original account gets when it is forwarded?

I don't really need a specific domain name for my email but the last free POP3 provider I used decided to go webmail only and charge for POP3 but that was a few years ago now. Gmail probably isn't going anywhere but they may revoke free POP3 like the last one did all the same. Who knows?

Thanks for the info.

moose
20th April 2008, 01:07 PM
I wonder if it will filter the copious amounts of spam that the original account gets when it is forwarded?


I'd be interested to hear how you go with that!

Utemad
20th April 2008, 01:47 PM
Well Moose since I have forwarded my original utemad account to the Gmail account I haven't got any spam through it. Been a few hours. So I just forwarded my main account through the utemad.gmail account. Will see how it goes but so far it is looking good. I used to get about a couple of spam emails/hour. Going away for the weekend was painful when I checked emails next :(.

All this forwarding of accounts doesn't change how things work. The emails that I want still come through as if they were sent directly.

Gmail appears to be a very good free spam filter. Even if you are not visibly using the account :)

antvc
20th April 2008, 02:05 PM
POP3 costs extra for yahoo mail.

No cost, or advertising, and very little spam with gmail.

I don't know about Eudora, but the several mail readers I have used allow multiple accounts, so there is no need to redirect yahoo mail or gmail - just set up another account for gmail with POP3 (and SMTP if you want) settings.
Can you explain this again?
I have yahoo mail and would like to use a mail program like entourage or mail for mac but cannot setup the account.
If I use gmail can i do this, as in send my yahoo mail to gmail then to mac mail or entourage?

Anthony

antvc
20th April 2008, 07:21 PM
I answered my own question.
yahoo does pop3 and I have just loaded my yahoo mail to my mac mail program, easy. Though it did take a while for the inbox to download

Anthony

Bush65
20th April 2008, 07:22 PM
Can you explain this again?
I have yahoo mail and would like to use a mail program like entourage or mail for mac but cannot setup the account.
If I use gmail can i do this, as in send my yahoo mail to gmail then to mac mail or entourage?

Anthony
What I had to do with my yahoo email (was a couple of years back, but still the same as far as I know), to enable POP3 or mail forwarding, was sign up for a mail plus account - has an annual fee (about $20).

Log into your yahoo email account. Select options and follow the prompts.

With gmail, go to http://www.gmail.com (http://www.gmail.com/) create an account for yourself. Then log into your account, select settings and choose the option that you want (pop3 or forwarding).

antvc
20th April 2008, 08:14 PM
They must have upgraded the email since then. I went to my yahoo account then options and saw there was a pop option, even gives the details for the pop and stmp to enter into a mail program
Anthony

Utemad
22nd April 2008, 12:04 PM
I'd be interested to hear how you go with that!

I just looked at my webmail and there is a folder labelled spam with 168 messages in it!

I have gotten one spam email into my Eudora inbox and when I checked the webmail there was one more spam email in the inbox that was yet to be downloaded. So that is 170 spam emails with only 2 reaching me. Pretty good I think :)

I marked the one still in the webmail inbox as spam but does anyone know how to alert Gmail people of the spam once it has been downloaded to your computer and therefore removed from the webmail inbox?

Hunchy
22nd April 2008, 07:36 PM
I marked the one still in the webmail inbox as spam but does anyone know how to alert Gmail people of the spam once it has been downloaded to your computer and therefore removed from the webmail inbox?

When you click the "Mark as spam" button in gmail, it does that automatically. It's a beautiful system, 'cuz when a number of people report the same message as spam, everyone who opens their gmail after that event don't even see the spam (it just goes straight to the spam folder).

Utemad it's probably too late but Microsoft Live is a great alternative. it's new enough to get your choice of name with a @live.com.au domain, plus it offers all that Google does without the ads.