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Camo
24th April 2008, 12:22 PM
Just wondering if anyone here knows much about brake master cylinders and boosters??
Ive fitted nissan and toyo diffs on my rangie and brakes have never been too flash.. very spongy. The engineer just plugged up one of the outlets because my brakes now only use single lines
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/04/188.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/04/189.jpg
so has 2 coming from 1st pump and 1 from 2nd pump
would making a t-piece on second to 1 line do anything?
Has brand new discs and pads allround aswell ;)
Cheers
Camo
p38arover
24th April 2008, 12:44 PM
What the heck? :eek:
You should have split circuits for safety reasons.
I think you need to reinstate the other brake lines as per the original RR set-up.
rovercare
24th April 2008, 12:48 PM
What the heck? :eek:
You should have split circuits for safety reasons.
I think you need to reinstate the other brake lines as per the original RR set-up.
Nope twin cct calipers on classic RR's, not on Nissan
Use a Y60 (GQ) booster and master cylinder;)
Camo
24th April 2008, 12:55 PM
Nope twin cct calipers on classic RR's, not on Nissan
Use a Y60 (GQ) booster and master cylinder
Thats what I am thinking I will have to do
really wanted to find a way to avoid it but yeah.. gotta love when you leave your car with someone to modify;) never again!
Camo
p38arover
24th April 2008, 01:01 PM
Nope twin cct calipers on classic RR's, not on Nissan
Ahh, of course. Front calipers are twin circuit, rear are single.
I don't have diagrams in front of me and maybe my thinking is wrong -- but.....
Wouldn't the amount of fluid displaced through that line by the master cylinder be only sufficient for one brake caliper? Therefore, would there be enough fluid for two calipers?
Then there is the issue of how much fluid is required for a Nissan calliper vs a LR caliper.
I'm no brake expert so I have no idea. :(
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:05 PM
Thats what I am thinking I will have to do
really wanted to find a way to avoid it but yeah.. gotta love when you leave your car with someone to modify;) never again!
Camo
My mate's stops shyte hot with Nissan bits:)
I thought I'd reply here and not on OL as we don't know anything on OL:p
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:13 PM
put rover diffs back under it to fix it :D
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:13 PM
Ahh, of course. Front calipers are twin circuit, rear are single.
I don't have diagrams in front of me and maybe my thinking is wrong -- but.....
Wouldn't the amount of fluid displaced through that line by the master cylinder be only sufficient for one brake caliper? Therefore, would there be enough fluid for two calipers?
Then there is the issue of how much fluid is required for a Nissan calliper vs a LR caliper.
I'm no brake expert so I have no idea. :(
Secondary pistons ONLY worked at approx. half travel as an AUXILLARY system;)
Camo
24th April 2008, 01:14 PM
I thought I'd reply here and not on OL as we don't know anything on OL
Thats right! more brains on outers hehe (man I wish I never said that now:eek:)
So would go fully sik with nissan booster and master cylinder yeah?
Camo
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:16 PM
put rover diffs back under it to fix it :D
Pffft:bangin:
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:18 PM
Pffft:bangin:
why would you put nissan diffs in the first place...:mad:
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:19 PM
Thats right! more brains on outers hehe (man I wish I never said that now:eek:)
So would go fully sik with nissan booster and master cylinder yeah?
Camo
I got slotted front rotors, and EBC greenstuff pads, he's got dirty old crap and stops on a dime, I can't lock 35's straight line, dry asphalt, Datsun all round is the sikedness:D
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:21 PM
why would you put nissan diffs in the first place...:mad:
Sigh.........:(
Strength
Price
Brakes
p38arover
24th April 2008, 01:24 PM
put rover diffs back under it to fix it :D
He wants unbreakable diffs!
:p
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:32 PM
He wants unbreakable diffs!
:p
unbreakable because they are the size of the car! hahahaha
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:34 PM
unbreakable because they are the size of the car! hahahaha
Still smaller than a sals;)
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:38 PM
Still smaller than a sals;)
cant put a maxi drive in a nissan diff now can we?? all we can have is an arb locker! they are magic......
Camo
24th April 2008, 01:41 PM
cant put a maxi drive in a nissan diff now can we?? all we can have is an arb locker! they are magic......
Thats right! you know your diffs :p
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:41 PM
cant put a maxi drive in a nissan diff now can we?? all we can have is an arb locker! they are magic......
Cant buy a maxi drive now can you:p
ARB's are fine, stupid people fitting them are the problem
Can't get a factory fitted locker in a Sals, can you?;)
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:42 PM
Thats right! you know your diffs :p
common sense...
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:43 PM
common sense...
Mmmmmmmmmm...
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:45 PM
Mmmmmmmmmm...
:o you seem to be getting worked up about nothing. i was just joking about putting the rover diffs back under. if nissan diffs are his cup of tea so be it...
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:48 PM
:o you seem to be getting worked up about nothing. i was just joking about putting the rover diffs back under. if nissan diffs are his cup of tea so be it...
No working me up shaggy;)
I'm sitting in Devonport waiting for the Spirit of Tas tonight, I got all the time in the world, can't do much driving as I've got a blown head gasket or slipped liner and I've limped it 3/4's the way around Tas already
Just waiting to get home to lift the heads;)
So argueing with a kidlet is passing the time nicely:D
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:51 PM
So argueing with a kidlet is passing the time nicely:D[/QUOTE]
i may be a kid but i know my landies!!
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:55 PM
So argueing with a kidlet is passing the time nicely:D
i may be a kid but i know my landies!![/quote]
That's good cause I don't:D
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 01:57 PM
i may be a kid but i know my landies!!
That's good cause I don't:D[/QUOTE]
how unfortunate maybe i could help you??
rovercare
24th April 2008, 01:58 PM
Nah, thanks for the offer, i'll kick along with what i got:D
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 02:01 PM
Nah, thanks for the offer, i'll kick along with what i got:D
are you sure im more then happy to help! ask me something..
p38arover
24th April 2008, 02:05 PM
can't do much driving as I've got a blown head gasket or slipped liner
:(
P38A?
rovercare
24th April 2008, 02:07 PM
are you sure im more then happy to help! ask me something..
Psssst, I'm joking;)
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 02:09 PM
Psssst, I'm joking;)
i know.. i was stirring you up!~ haahha
rovercare
24th April 2008, 02:13 PM
:(
P38A?
Nah Supercharged 3.9, Classic RR
Picks temp, REAL quick under boost and load, and can't avoid hill's here in Tas:D, Its done from the west coast-right around Hobart and back around devonport with some of the centre, its getting worse, so decided not to risk it anymore:twisted:
Pull the heads tomorrow and see what the go is
Cooling system is good as, cool water from the rad outlet, screaming hot, from the motor:D 4 core rad and big fans helps, thermostat is new (checked in a pot of course)
better start a thread and stop destroying this one:angel:
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 02:19 PM
Nah Supercharged 3.9, Classic RR
Picks temp, REAL quick under boost and load, and can't avoid hill's here in Tas:D, Its done from the west coast-right around Hobart and back around devonport with some of the centre, its getting worse, so decided not to risk it anymore:twisted:
Pull the heads tomorrow and see what the go is
Cooling system is good as, cool water from the rad outlet, screaming hot, from the motor:D 4 core rad and big fans helps, thermostat is new (checked in a pot of course)
better start a thread and stop destroying this one:angel:
i think the only way to fix this problem is to intercool it. rrc dont like to be s/c
Camo
24th April 2008, 02:19 PM
Nope twin cct calipers on classic RR's, not on Nissan
Use a Y60 (GQ) booster and master cylinder;)
Nah Supercharged 3.9, Classic RR
Picks temp, REAL quick under boost and load, and can't avoid hill's here in Tas:D, Its done from the west coast-right around Hobart and back around devonport with some of the centre, its getting worse, so decided not to risk it anymore:twisted:
Pull the heads tomorrow and see what the go is
Cooling system is good as, cool water from the rad outlet, screaming hot, from the motor:D 4 core rad and big fans helps, thermostat is new (checked in a pot of course)
better start a thread and stop destroying this one:angel:
Thankyou!
Back onto brakes please
so reckon the 2 outlets into one won't make any difference?
Camo
4bd1discovery
24th April 2008, 02:23 PM
Just wondering if anyone here knows much about brake master cylinders and boosters??
Ive fitted nissan and toyo diffs on my rangie and brakes have never been too flash.. very spongy. The engineer just plugged up one of the outlets because my brakes now only use single lines
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/04/188.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/04/189.jpg
so has 2 coming from 1st pump and 1 from 2nd pump
would making a t-piece on second to 1 line do anything?
Has brand new discs and pads allround aswell ;)
Cheers
Camo
maybe ur master cylinder is stuffed
rovercare
24th April 2008, 02:30 PM
Thankyou!
Back onto brakes please
so reckon the 2 outlets into one won't make any difference?
Camo
Mate, just ran straight Nissan, I've never found anyone wanting me to do their Nissan conversion yet, so don't know
Try it, its only bundy tube and a double flareing tool:)
I'd look at the schematics of the braking ct first, but They're in Vic and I isn't:D
Camo
24th April 2008, 02:58 PM
Mate, just ran straight Nissan, I've never found anyone wanting me to do their Nissan conversion yet, so don't know
Try it, its only bundy tube and a double flareing tool:)
I'd look at the schematics of the braking ct first, but They're in Vic and I isn't:D
Worth a go I guess
I'm grabbing another booster and master cylinder off a 90 model which is working perfect so will use that in the end.. see if that makes a diff. Dosn't take much effort to try
Camo
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