Come On Guys

[101RRS]

This is about the most under utilised section on AULRO.

More threads and posts are needed - there are some regular posters but we need more.

Yes I have a 101 called Miss Piggy because she is all bitch and ruff but I think we can even accept some threads related to those girlie series FCs as well - arn't they butt ugly - and yes I do mean it - but being deliberately naughty to prompt a response.

The more the merrier.

My truck has stagnated - getting some other brake drums next week and hopefully all will be well. I have a **** high stress job so each Saturday is spent recovering instead of working on the truck.

Maybe on the road soon. I would love to see more on the Little Thumper (Cooee - Andrew) - What about Slugbait Steve and Conrad down in Tassie. Oh of course Ron in Nowra. There are more 101s out there - hey The Colonel - stetched and P76 power.

Diana - you have a truck only a mother could love - who else has one - the ones I saw at Cooma were great. But why did the 101 turn out the way it did and not just a development of the FC 2a and 2b - why did we need a new vehicle and not just a series FC with RR running gear and parabolic springs - even this would have over come any perceived deficiencies of the truck.

So lets hear more about your FC's no matter what sort they and what you are doing with them - lets get this little bit of paradise moving:)

Yes I know I have carried on - an emotional ANZAC day and a nice bottle of wine (cheap) does that.

Garry

[101 Ron]

101 Tips
If freezing cold in the middle of winter in the high country
Un zip the gear shift boot........poor mans heater

Stop corrosion in the rear inner guard support tubes drill a hole in the botom of them like in the photo and flush the mud out.
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Buy a cheap Indian backpack from the army disposals as they have the right sort of buckel and strap to use on the shovel and pick handle holder just cut them off the backpack and throw away as they are cheap enough.
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When I pulled a part the tie rod ends to inspect them I realised they can be fitted with a grease nipple.
The drag link rod ends are sealed, but can be fitted with a grease nipple the same way.........just make sure you drill in the middle .
Use a small 6mm grease nipple.
A worth while improvement in the steering has been made ,
Note it may take a while for the grease to get to the lower part of the joint.
A 16mm ID x 34mmOD tie rod end boots can be purchased cheaply from any auto parts store.
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When bogged down to the diffs and you have a model without a winch.
Just slide out the quick release side panels from the rear body......Four in total.
Place one infront of each tyre and drive over them like Maxtracs.
Of cause this is one use.
When you are finish and have your 101 out of the bog you have better use it to run and hide as your fellow 101 mates will track you down and shoot you.

[101 Ron]

Cooee and myself have compared notes.
My 101 with standard bar treads (35 inch ) and a high ratio transfercase in overdrive runs 100kph at 3000 rpm.
Cooees 101 with standard ratio trasfercase and overdrive with oversize 38 inch tyres runs.....100kph at 3000 rpm.

[101RRS]

That would seem about right - I have some high speed gears to put in my tfr case later but would also like a overdrive if I can find one. Certainly up to 100kph, even a 101 should be able to pull at less than 3000 rpm - though my 3.9 disco was not all that great above 3000 in 5th gear.

Ron since you have connected a cable up your to your O/d how have you found the all round drivability out on the road with you O/d on in fourth gear and with O/d on, how is third when you have too change down - too low or too high or just right.

Cooee got great fuel economy driving from Qld to Cooma and back - he said he got about 17mpg sitting on 90-100 which is good - though he did say it was worse in hills as you would expect.

[101 Ron]

I only use the overdrive in top gear as I do not want to kill it as they are hard to find at the right price and some of the bearings etc used inside them you can not get.
I dont know the the mileage yet as I have done no long trips or have not been checking.
90 kph seems to be the sweet spot for the overdrive.
There is no pulling power in the overdrive.........it is a flat highway cruising gear.
100 kph cruise is possible if the road is flat enough and no head wind.
My gear shift for the overdrive is freeing up now is it is easier to use.
The big difference is a reduction of noise at highway speeds.
It is worth while to do and fit.
A round town or local trips I dont use the overdrive at all.
On long trips I am going to carry the old transfer case drive gear and circlip, with circlip pliers as a back up if the fairey overdrive fails, so a road side fitment can take place.

[101 Ron]

Filled my 101 with LPG the other day and noted the small tank between the chassis rails holds 60 litres from the bowser.
This gets me about 160 to 200 ks before it runs out.
I will expect slightly more with the overdrive now on long trips.
I have not worked out if this is good or bad and I know my odd ball LPG fit up is not working to its full potenuall and one of these days I will finish it off.
I am happy with this as on the eastern half of Australia there is enough LPG servos around to ensure I do not have to use petrol if I dont want to.
The petrol is nothing more than a back up now and for hard pulling up hills.
I add a bit of two stroke oil to the petrol to help the valves a bit as both the unleaded fuel and lpg are hard on valves.
Buying a twenty litre drum of the cheapest no name two stroke oil is more cost effective than a normal fuel upper cylinder lubricant.........and it can be cheap and narsty as it is not as important for lubrication like a two stroke motor.
I run about 150 to 200 to one.
I do this on all my older engines now and even my TDI defender since the sulphur lubricant has been taken out of diesel.
Ron

[101RRS]

So I take it that with O/D off there is no problem with the high speed tfr case gears in normal driving - what about first - is it a bit high and what about 4th driving around ? Does your engine handle it OK at around 90-100k. I was surprised how high first and reverse is - I was expecting them to be lower and there does seem to be a gap to second - but then while my engine does run sweet and does not blow smoke I really do not know what its condition is. Even when on choke, I need lots of revs to back up my drive and when driving around the block second will not pull when changing up going up the local hills - but then I have never run it long enough to get to operating temperature so that may be the issue.

My old LPG system seems to be working great with the engine running smoothly except on changeover. I have one of these fitted

Flashlube fuel additives Synthetic lubricants for the automotive industry (http://www.flashlube.com.au/en/valvesaverkit/index.html)

and it has been fitted for 16 years. It feeds into the vacuum balance pipe between the carbies and drips at the rate of 1cc per litre of fuel so works out about 1.5c per litre of fuel used. It does save mucking around with the 2 stroke. The Rover engine probably doesn't need it but I would rather be sure - particularly for the low cost. I am going to put one on my series 1 as well.

I started removing the bits and pieces attached to the rear X member as it is badly rusted in some spots. I can see how they rust - all the box sections are full of dirt. What is a worry - I found that most of the high tensile bolts that hold things like the rear tow points and the pintle hook were rusted 3/4 of the way through and just snapped when I put the rattle gun on them to undo - so something to check from time to time.

And backing onto the ramps I misjudged the little bit of rear overhang and the height and have squashed the guttering in my house - water can still flow but I was surprised how easily it crumbled.

Garry

[101 Ron]

2nd gear normal starting.
!st gear only used for heavy load start or starting off on a steep hill.
First gear is what I normally use off road.
I only use low range if I am fair dinkcum off road.
I drive my 101 as a three speed for normal around town driving.
Garry is your 101 fitted with high ratio diffs.
If you need to use first gear all the time to start off it must be.
If your 101 is going well you should be able supprize a toyota Landcruiser owner looking at the 101 at the traffic lights by burning them off up to 80 kph.
Reverse is slightly higher than first.....but no problems in backing the trailer in the drive way.
When towing 2.5 tonne of boat first gear starts are no problem and no clutch slipping.
I am happy with this as it is good all round ......and the overdrive just is cream on top.
My 101 according to the previous owner with 4.47 diffs fitted and standard transfer case ratios was a dog and first gear starts was the norm.
Third gear was used alot to get the thing again going up slight hills as top had no pulling power , just like the overdrive has now.
The difference is now I can go down only half a gear to get a bit of extra zip.

[101RRS]

Interesting - I thought the diffs were standard - I will have too check next weekend - maybe my tfr case has already got the high speed gears in it - I had a couple of sets in the spares - at least one is the high speed ones. Or maybe with my brake problems I just have then brakes adjusted up too much - I will get my (used) drums this week - I hope they are not too worn and will sort this aspect out next weekend.

I did adjust the handbrake up - so maybe a little too much.

Once I have these sorted and I can properly road test the truck I will be able to sort this other stuff out.

Garry

[101 Ron]

Garry if you can put up some pics of the lpg install would be great.
I am just interested how some else done it and with what components.
You will have to come to Nowra and give my 101 a drive .......and yes I will be in the passenger seat to make sure it comes back!

[101 Ron]

Does anyone know the OD of a series three rover rear diff drive axle.
I am interested in the OD of the defender axle.....both salisburys and measured at the splines.
I am starting to get a bit serious about fitting a ARB locker to the front of the 101 .
I need to know this if I am going to purchase a locker and get some machining done.
I cannot find my spare defender rear axles or drive flanges at present.

[101RRS]

and yes I will be in the passenger seat to make sure it comes back!

And how will that ensure you get your truck back :twisted:

I will get some pics next weekend - the next time I will get at my truck. Basically I have a 100l (water volume) tank inside between the batteries and rear wheel arch on the passenger side - it has 85l usuable.

There is some stuff up under the front passenger wheel well but I have never had a look at that. Where the air intake hose comes out of the airfilter it is cut and has a 90 degree bend that takes it down towards the rear about 1'. It then has a 180 bend that brings the air intake back to the already fitted metal pipe that takes air to both carbies. It is on this re-routing of the air intake pipe that the larger disk shaped gizmo that gets the gas into the air intake is fitted. I have a switch on the dash that switches over to lpg and kills the fuel pump and activates a petrol cutoff switch.

The slight downside of my installation is loss of space inside and the gearbox cover is slightly modifed to clear the extra pipework - but all seems to work OK and is simple.

Garry

[101RRS]

It is good to see that you have finally started work on my new locker:).

Any ideas yet on how to make the locker take 101 axle splines. Older landrovers have 10 splines, later are 24 spline - how many splines are 101 axles? arn't they different again?

Garry

[101 Ron]

Operation Locker My research has told me if I order a series 3 salisbury rear locker I should be able to get the side gears cut to a larger over size to take the 101 axles.
I have checked out a local company which has a spark erosion machine of the right type which can cut the side gears on a ARB locker.
A spark erosion machine must be used as the side gears are hardened.
The diff carrier is the same as a normal salisbury, only the axles are different and alot larger.
What I need to know is the spline OD on both the series 3 and defender drive axles.
As I have the Detroit locker in the rear, I have two spare 101 side gears as a sample for size.
I am trying to find a axle I took out of my Defender........if the Defender axle slips through the centre of the 101 side gear ,there is enough meat for operation locker to go a head.
I heard the series axle is slightly smaller and may be the better option.
Operation Locker I hoping may play out like this.
1 Buy a defender ARB locker for the rear ( if operation locker fails I can always put the locker in the rear of the Defender and not waste my money.)
2 Have the ARB side gears spark erroded for about 150 to 200 dollars each.
3 Pull apart the front brakes and CVs of the 101 so the drive axles can be removed and the diff centre dropped out.
4 Shove the locker in and hope it all works and fits.
5 the switch is already in place with a diff lock symbol as is the air compressor,just got to run a air line and a soleniod valve
6 Find a steep rocky hill and have fun or poo my pants, what ever comes first.


I expect great things as the Detroit Locker in the rear opened up a whole new world off road wise and even heavy towing on slippery surfaces.
The 101 has little spring flex due to the high spring rates and the springs are odd expensive things to play with.
So lifting a wheel is not uncommon.
The front locker should put the thing up there with the best of the custom road going 4bys.
With out any locker the modern coil sprung 4bys witha little bit of lift will leave a 101 behind if the ground is uneven.

[101 Ron]

And how will that ensure you get your truck back



Check the photos of the axle in the gun clips

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[101RRS]

Sounds like a project too me - why don't you proceed and work it all out and then let me know how it goes:D.

Garry

[cooee]

hi guys :D
really good talking to you guys and hearing what you doing to your 101
i just about finished makeing over head consol mounted it in middle of cabin between seats out of 20 ml pipe bolted onto roll bar and front top of windscreen just fitted uhf and stero put speakers on roll bar
will try and post photos soon and see what you think

mate of mine thinking of importing 101 from england

catch you later cooee:o

[101 Ron]

Give me a month..........I know of two 101s kicking around in storage with owners who have done nothing with them.
One is in perfect ex army auction condition.
I will get to see one soon and report back.

[101RRS]

And how will that ensure you get your truck back



Check the photos of the axle in the gun clips

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Sorry - I cannot see any AXLE in the gun clips

[101 Ron]

should read axe.

[cooee]

hi ron :D
i really enjoyed your video clip cool looking 101
we will all have to catch some time compare 101
cheers cooee

[loanrangie]

hi ron :D
i really enjoyed your video clip cool looking 101
we will all have to catch some time compare 101
cheers cooee

Andrew, would you mind if i posted up the pics you sent me ?

regards,
Nick.

[101 Ron]

I just took the cap off the rear drive flange on my TDI 300 defender 130 axle.
The axle is a 24 spline job and I tried it against the 22 spline spider gear left over from the rear diff on the 101 landy.
It was like chalk and cheese.
The drive axle in the 101 huge compared to the one in the defender.
It is easy to see why a 101 doesnt break axles.
This is good news as it means there is plenty of meat to machine out of a ARB diff lock side gears ...........so much so I wonder if there is any other changes in the diff centre between the two vehicles.
I will go ahead and purchase a ARB locker for my defender with the idea to fit it to my 101.
This will take me about four months to scrape up the cash.
Operation front diff lock is go !



Today on the way up to the family farm another tree had fallen over the road again.
Being calm weather lately is was unexpected so I didnt bring the chain saw.
Just the axle on the dash board of the 101 and the winch.
Every time I use the Nokken winch the more I like it .
At first I though it was rubbish........but now it is just great.
I had two people with me who are useless when helping winching so as usual I was doing it solo.
This is where the Nokken shines for a PTO winch as you put it into gear and winch out ,hop out of the cabin and it doesnt feed out untill you pull on the cable.
IT is the reverse with winch in......great for single hand operation.
The only problem is I was running the winch out the rear you cannot see whats going on when in the cab.
The self laying of this winch is superb and it it has to be as it is under the vehicle.
I love the winch except for the fact it has no brake.......so soon as the clutch is depressed the load on the cable will pull it out .
This can be dangerous or a safely feature when winching logs as the winch was designed to do
RON

[101RRS]

I will go ahead and purchase a ARB locker for my defender with the idea to fit it to my 101.

Operation front diff lock is go !
RON

Ron,

That is great - when you have done it and learn't the lessons to be learnt:), I will copy what you have done:D

Garry

[stusgonesailing]

Alright,
I had better jump in before you two get bored talking to each other.

I have a GS in the middle of a rebuild.
Well the chassis is on milk crate at the moment but it was running before i stripped it to get rid of some rust in the crossmembers

[101RRS]

Thats great - I think - are you doing a full on rebuild or just an build to get it back on the road.

I know about the rust bit - in the process of removing it from my rear X member - the centre and rear spring hangers are OK but the outer box sections are rusted at the bottom. Because of the thickness of metal is easy to cut out and weld in new bits.

The rear box section is poorll designed - let dirt and crap in and not out - I will be putting extra holes on the bottom so the crud can wash out more easily.

Have you got some pics - always love them and any mods you are intending to do.

Keep in touch and I hope all is going well.

Cheers

Garry