Chasing

[rovercare]

Hopefully I can sneak this in here, knowing that not everyone reads the wanted section:angel: and Isuzu nuts are always on the look out:D

Oh its a sad day, but I'm dieseling my RR:twisted:

I'm after a whole ISUZU powered county ideally, the only thing that need to be in good knick is the engine, and if its an LT85 the box aswell, not worried about a shagged LT95 as I have a couple of spares
Interested in anything, will pay good Money, well, what I think is good, which is rare for me ;)
Interstate is fine, but if its a wreck, help with transport would be great
PM or call, Thanks Matt

[incisor]

Hopefully I can sneak this in here, knowing that not everyone reads the wanted section:angel:
tut tut......

[Pedro_The_Swift]

as if,,,:p

[weeds]

i think there is one in the markets

a complete car as well

[dobbo]

I may know of a stage 1 down the road from home, it's been sitting in the same spot for months now on a guys front lawn, I will enquire if it is actually for sale. (don't know if it is actually an Isuzu but I am fairly sure it is)

What sort of money are you willing to part with?

[rovercare]

I may know of a stage 1 down the road from home, it's been sitting in the same spot for months now on a guys front lawn, I will enquire if it is actually for sale. (don't know if it is actually an Isuzu but I am fairly sure it is)

What sort of money are you willing to part with?

PMerated:)

[weeds]

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[rovercare]

tut tut......

Shhhhhhhhhh, dont tell the boss:D

[rovercare]

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Just spoke with Dave and waiting on another response from red rocket

Travellers Stage 1 would have been the pick of the bunch:(

[weeds]

def90 has one as well....just cannot find the link

[rovercare]

Nope, that's the one Dave_s is fitting to his hence the sale of th N/A engine

[rovercare]

I may know of a stage 1 down the road from home, it's been sitting in the same spot for months now on a guys front lawn, I will enquire if it is actually for sale. (don't know if it is actually an Isuzu but I am fairly sure it is)

What sort of money are you willing to part with?

Been to see your nieghbour yet?:D

[mcrover]

It was only last night that you were leaning toward the yota mota wanst it?

[Vern]

Yeah Damo, Matt gives me a hard time about what i'm gonna build next, he changes his mind more than his jocks. Thats why he's built more rovers than most have owned:p:p

[rovercare]

Yeah Damo, Matt gives me a hard time about what i'm gonna build next, he changes his mind more than his jocks. Thats why he's built more rovers than most have owned:p:p

Most people change their mind BEFORE they build a car:D

Their is downsides to being a doer not a dreamer, you have to build alot of cars:twisted:

[rovercare]

It was only last night that you were leaning toward the yota mota wanst it?

Nope, just liked the idea as you can rev it, and its toyota:angel:

[p38arover]

I was talking to the apprentice at KLR Automotive today. He's selling his 4BD1 that he'd bought to put in his Rangie. He needs to fund a replacement gearbox for the Rangie.

Ring Gabriel on 02 4721-3675

[rovercare]

I was talking to the apprentice at KLR Automotive today. He's selling his 4BD1 that he'd bought to put in his Rangie. He needs to fund a replacement gearbox for the Rangie.

Ring Gabriel on 02 4721-3675

Bugger, answering machine, have to wait till tomorrow:mad:

Thanks Ron:)

Really need a contact number for Red Rocket (Eridani) to find out more about the County, Geeez I'm impatient:angel:

[dobbo]

Been to see your nieghbour yet?:D

Not a neighbour just a car I drive passed everyday, no one was home and I couldn't see the front pass side wheel so cannot confirm the 4BD1. I'll try tommorow.

Aren't there any NPR's for sale?

[dobbo]

For the cost could this be an option?

http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_7011565_cat_Trucks+%26+Buses_loc_locRZSQr egtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ9AVSCregRZSQ_off_9_sec t_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ0BJDZfdRZSQSellingPrice_sq t_0_srchby_srchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQIsuzu_stpg_ 1_subs_Trucks+%26+Commercials_


You get a decent winch in the process may be PTO

Lot of kin about though but selling the tray could pay for the conversion.

[abaddonxi]

For the cost could this be an option?

http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_7011565_cat_Trucks+%26+Buses_loc_locRZSQr egtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ9AVSCregRZSQ_off_9_sec t_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ0BJDZfdRZSQSellingPrice_sq t_0_srchby_srchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQIsuzu_stpg_ 1_subs_Trucks+%26+Commercials_


You get a decent winch in the process may be PTO

Lot of kin about though but selling the tray could pay for the conversion.

Wasn't somebody on here looking for a budget beavertail?:p:p:p

Cheers
Simon

[rovercare]

Wasn't somebody on here looking for a budget beavertail?:p:p:p

Cheers
Simon

Got over that idea, to much to reg a year:(

Still looking for a car trailer but:D

[rovercare]

For the cost could this be an option?

Trucks & Buses For Sale: ISUZU NPR on Trading Post Online (http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_7011565_cat_Trucks+%26+Buses_loc_locRZSQr egtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ9AVSCregRZSQ_off_9_sec t_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ0BJDZfdRZSQSellingPrice_sq t_0_srchby_srchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQIsuzu_stpg_ 1_subs_Trucks+%26+Commercials_)


You get a decent winch in the process may be PTO

Lot of kin about though but selling the tray could pay for the conversion.

To much rooting around to pull one from a truck, bellhousings arent easily sourced, 24v not 12, stuff like that, usually wouldn't be an issue, but want this together quick:D

[mcrover]

Just go and buy a Disco 300TDI, we all know thats what you really want :o

Much easier than stuffing around shoe horning this into that then changing that to this and all that lol.....:p

I will be waiting with baited breath to see what ends up in the Rangies engine bay......If you dont pull it apart and sell the bits first :D

[rovercare]

Just go and buy a Disco 300TDI, we all know thats what you really want :o



Icky poos:p

[p38arover]

I will be waiting with baited breath to see what ends up in the Rangies engine bay.....

I wonder what you'll catch with baited breath? :o Flies?

I wait with bated breath to find out! :D

[Dougal]

For the cost could this be an option?

http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_7011565_cat_Trucks+%26+Buses_loc_locRZSQr egtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ9AVSCregRZSQ_off_9_sec t_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ0BJDZfdRZSQSellingPrice_sq t_0_srchby_srchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQIsuzu_stpg_ 1_subs_Trucks+%26+Commercials_


You get a decent winch in the process may be PTO

Lot of kin about though but selling the tray could pay for the conversion.

That could be a 4BC2, the 3.3L engine.
Looks like it's had a busy history too. The engines been out and repainted (probably reconditioned), the front panels on the cab are from a truck much later than 84/85 too.

Does anyone know how they acheive the 10sp box on these? Is it a self contained splitter or built into the box?

[isuzurover]

To much rooting around to pull one from a truck, bellhousings arent easily sourced, 24v not 12, stuff like that, usually wouldn't be an issue, but want this together quick:D

Ahh - but the truck boxes are stronger than an LT95 and with better ratios... Could have 5:1 or 6:1 1st gear PLUS a nice tall OD top gear. 6-speed ;) is also possible. Just need to fab an adaptor to the LT230 and a cable shifter.

[Vern]

Any updates Matt.?

[rovercare]

Any updates Matt.?

Did Ken ring you yet? hasnt passed the detials onto me yet:(

[rovercare]

Ahh - but the truck boxes are stronger than an LT95 and with better ratios... Could have 5:1 or 6:1 1st gear PLUS a nice tall OD top gear. 6-speed ;) is also possible. Just need to fab an adaptor to the LT230 and a cable shifter.

If i'm thumbing my bum with a gearbox conversion, it'll be an auto;)

[Vern]

Nah, will advertise it all sunday or monday after i get those bits off you:)
Unless you want to buy a T700.Lt95 convertions for your 4BD1, and a taper roller kit aswell;)

[rovercare]

Nah, will advertise it all sunday or monday after i get those bits off you:)
Unless you want to buy a T700.Lt95 convertions for your 4BD1, and a taper roller kit aswell;)

1k for the lot? sold:D

[Vern]

If i'm thumbing my bum with a gearbox conversion, it'll be an auto;)
Well have i got a deal for you:p

[Vern]

1k for the lot? sold:DAdd another 2.5k and you can have the whole T700/95 conversion with shafts to go with that taper roller you just bought off me;)

[rovercare]

Add another 2.5k and you can have the whole T700/95 conversion with shafts to go with that taper roller you just bought off me;)

My offer still stands, 1k for the lot:D could have the cash in your skyrocket on Sat:cool:

:p

[dobbo]

Unfortunately the one I know of is not for sale, owner plans to restore it eventually.

[Vern]

I think you better keep looking for a bellhousing:mad:

[rovercare]

Unfortunately the one I know of is not for sale, owner plans to restore it eventually.

One of those "one day" projects:(

Thanks for trying:)

[Bush65]

Ahh - but the truck boxes are stronger than an LT95 and with better ratios... Could have 5:1 or 6:1 1st gear PLUS a nice tall OD top gear. 6-speed ;) is also possible. Just need to fab an adaptor to the LT230 and a cable shifter.
The front output housing of the LT230 wouldn't clear the side of my 6 speed case. Looked like the input gear could have been re-splined to suit the gearbox output. But to fit an LT230 it would have to be divorced to shift it back enough.

LT95 t/case has a short front extension that clears ok, but the input gear is too far back for the length of the gearbox output shaft.

[isuzurover]

The front output housing of the LT230 wouldn't clear the side of my 6 speed case. Looked like the input gear could have been re-splined to suit the gearbox output. But to fit an LT230 it would have to be divorced to shift it back enough.

LT95 t/case has a short front extension that clears ok, but the input gear is too far back for the length of the gearbox output shaft.

Great info John - Doesn't Dougal have a 5-speed isuzu box mated to an LT230 though?

[Dougal]

Great info John - Doesn't Dougal have a 5-speed isuzu box mated to an LT230 though?

Yep.
It fits, but it's tight along the side where John ran into "negative clearance". The 5 speed (MSA-5G) is quite a bit shorter than the 6speed, due to the shorter bellhousing you've got plenty of space for the relevant adaptor plates and shaft.

Shift levers are something I haven't got an elegant solution for yet.

Some ratios which I've accumulated, many provided by John.

The mbp-6p is:
1st 6.378:1
2nd 3.627:1
3rd 2.239:1
4th 1.452:1
5th 1.000:1
6th 0.787:1

MSA5G,
5.788:1
2.998:1
1.594:1
1.000:1
0.776:1
5.798:1

MSA5P,
5.788:1
2.998:1
1.735:1
1.000:1
0.776:1
5.798:1

MSA5R,
4.987:1
2.998:1
1.594:1
1.000:1
0.728:1
4.774:1

MXA5R
4.987:1
2.870:1
1.594:1
1.000:1
0.728:1


Isuzu MBP-6P
1st 6.378:1
2nd 3.627:1
3rd 2.239:1
4th 1.452:1
5th 1.000:1
6th 0.787:1
rev 6.595:1

MYY-6P
5.979:1
3.434:1
1.862:1
1.297:1
1.000:1
0.774:1
5.701:1

MYY-5P
5.315:1
3.053:1
1.655:1
1.000:1
0.721:1
5.068:1

Isuzu Mzz-6U
1st- 6.369
2nd- 3.767
3rd- 2.234
4th- 1.442
5th- 1.000
6th- 0.782
rev- 6.369

Model MSB-5S
Description The transmission is one horizontal manual transmission, which is manufactured in strict with Japanese ISUZU standard. It can be used on light-duty truck,minibus etc.
Specification Matching Engine: 4JB1
Ratio:
1: 5.016
2: 2.672
3: 1.585
4: 1.000
5: 0.770
Rev: 4.783
Central Distance: 88
Torque: 230


4JB1 fitted with MSB-5S
4BE1T fitted with MSB-5M
4BC2 fitted with MSB-5S (truck at home)
4HF1 fitted with MSA-5R (wymer brothers)
NHR (poss 4JB1) with MSC-5
MSA-5D and MXA-5D appear functionally identical

[Dave_S]

While we're all yakking about gearboxes, I thought I'd mention my 4BD1 engine is still for sale:D It does come with a gearbox (an LT77S) and while I admit it's not a 12 speed hyperdrive mega box with a titanium casing and developed to handle 800 bhp for extreme off road racing, it will do the job!!

[isuzurover]

Yep.
It fits, but it's tight along the side where John ran into "negative clearance". The 5 speed (MSA-5G) is quite a bit shorter than the 6speed, due to the shorter bellhousing you've got plenty of space for the relevant adaptor plates and shaft.

Shift levers are something I haven't got an elegant solution for yet.

Some ratios which I've accumulated, many provided by John.

The mbp-6p is:
1st 6.378:1
2nd 3.627:1
3rd 2.239:1
4th 1.452:1
5th 1.000:1
6th 0.787:1

MSA5G,
5.788:1
2.998:1
1.594:1
1.000:1
0.776:1
5.798:1

MSA5P,
5.788:1
2.998:1
1.735:1
1.000:1
0.776:1
5.798:1

MSA5R,
4.987:1
2.998:1
1.594:1
1.000:1
0.728:1
4.774:1

MXA5R
4.987:1
2.870:1
1.594:1
1.000:1
0.728:1


Isuzu MBP-6P
1st 6.378:1
2nd 3.627:1
3rd 2.239:1
4th 1.452:1
5th 1.000:1
6th 0.787:1
rev 6.595:1

MYY-6P
5.979:1
3.434:1
1.862:1
1.297:1
1.000:1
0.774:1
5.701:1

MYY-5P
5.315:1
3.053:1
1.655:1
1.000:1
0.721:1
5.068:1

Isuzu Mzz-6U
1st- 6.369
2nd- 3.767
3rd- 2.234
4th- 1.442
5th- 1.000
6th- 0.782
rev- 6.369

Model MSB-5S
Description The transmission is one horizontal manual transmission, which is manufactured in strict with Japanese ISUZU standard. It can be used on light-duty truck,minibus etc.
Specification Matching Engine: 4JB1
Ratio:
1: 5.016
2: 2.672
3: 1.585
4: 1.000
5: 0.770
Rev: 4.783
Central Distance: 88
Torque: 230


4JB1 fitted with MSB-5S
4BE1T fitted with MSB-5M
4BC2 fitted with MSB-5S (truck at home)
4HF1 fitted with MSA-5R (wymer brothers)
NHR (poss 4JB1) with MSC-5
MSA-5D and MXA-5D appear functionally identical

Great info Dougal!
What boxes were fitted to the 4BD1s though? Any info on the Aisin/Allison autos?

The gearbox in the Rodeo Jackaroo with 4JB1 had different ratios to the onw you list - low is only 3.6:1 or so. Any more info on what the box you mention was fitted to?

[Bush65]

My 6 speed (MXA-6R), wasn't originally behind a 4BD1.

The ratios are also different to any of the others in Dougal's list. I had written them down once upon a time.

1st is close enough to 5:1. 4th is 1:1, 5th and 6th are both overdrive.

When I get a chance, I will check them out so the list can be updated.

[Dougal]

Great info Dougal!
What boxes were fitted to the 4BD1s though? Any info on the Aisin/Allison autos?

The gearbox in the Rodeo Jackaroo with 4JB1 had different ratios to the onw you list - low is only 3.6:1 or so. Any more info on what the box you mention was fitted to?

The MSA series of boxes were fitted to the 4BD1's and 4BE1's.
My engine came from japan with an MSA-5P attached, I have recently swapped it to an MSA-5G.
The NPR's in the US seem to have the MSA-5D box which has no overdrive.

The smaller NPR's (fitted with the 3.3L 4BC2) have the MSB boxes which are physically a lot smaller and lighter than the MSA's.

Sorry I've got nothing on the Aisin automatics.

The MXA boxes appear to be an updated MSA box, similar ratios but aluminium housing. You'll notice the MXA-5R is almost identical ratio wise to the MSA-5R.

[Larns]

While we're all yakking about gearboxes, I thought I'd mention my 4BD1 engine is still for sale:D It does come with a gearbox (an LT77S) and while I admit it's not a 12 speed hyperdrive mega box with a titanium casing and developed to handle 800 bhp for extreme off road racing, it will do the job!!
GOLD
:BigThumb:

[rovercare]

I finded one, $2600 delivered, with everything to mate to an LT95:)

And from a wreckers too, cheaper than what I found private:p, I still have contacts for another in melb, if anyone else is chasing:eek: