4.4 Starter Motor

[mczaf666]

Hi All,

Im looking for a starter motor for my p76 engined rangie.

Do I specifically need a p76 or will any range rover starter motor fit the block?

Thanks in advance

Hamish

[rangieman]

Hi All,

Im looking for a starter motor for my p76 engined rangie.

Do I specifically need a p76 or will any range rover starter motor fit the block?

Thanks in advance

Hamish
Rangerover one will do the trick just fine:D

[GuyG]

Fit a range rover one with a spacer is the best way to go, a possible issue with fitting a P76 starter is that the front driveshaft and the starter solenoid can make contact breaking the casting. This happenned to us at Fraser Island at Xmas time in an auto (thank goodness I didn't turn off the car - MR Automotive at Redcliffe where able to get a replacement starter to us within a couple of days

[mczaf666]

Thanks alot for your replies

[tony]

As GuyG said you gotta use the spacer when you use rangie starter

or you'll brake the nose cone on the starter sooner or later

Tony

[IWANNAOLDRANGIE]

I ended up getting a gear reduction hi-torque one for my terrier engined jet boat from my local auto elec.......way cheaper than a standard one too..... 2 winds and away she goes

[russa]

Hi Gents,

I have a recently aquired 4.4 in a 2door, and have a spare rangie starter motor, how big is the spacer you talk off, is it simply a plate of some thickness between engine and starter, or is there an alignment issue too?

[rangieman]

You can just bolt up the rangie starter , But as others have said a collar should be used;)

[Rangier Rover]

Hi Gents,

I have a recently aquired 4.4 in a 2door, and have a spare rangie starter motor, how big is the spacer you talk off, is it simply a plate of some thickness between engine and starter, or is there an alignment issue too? An alighnment issue under thrust. A lathe concern. Do it and it will be worth it. ;)

[loanrangie]

Hi Gents,

I have a recently aquired 4.4 in a 2door, and have a spare rangie starter motor, how big is the spacer you talk off, is it simply a plate of some thickness between engine and starter, or is there an alignment issue too?

The spacer is a ring that fits over the nose of the starter so that its a snug fit into the block, many dont use it but if you can make or locate one i'd use it.

[russa]

Thanks Gents, So this Spacer doesn't hold theh starter away from block, but rather fills the gap so starter is held or located better?

[rangieman]

Thanks Gents, So this Spacer doesn't hold theh starter away from block, but rather fills the gap so starter is held or located better?
Yep thats it , all tho ive gotten away with out using one many atime for long spells:D

Some will call me a shonky operator for not using one or suggesting not to use one , thats your call if you do or dont:p

[russa]

Thanks All, I think in short I can use it to get me out of trouble, it will get me home and a long way if needed, but maybe I should find/make one if I can.

Thanks all for comments.

[loanrangie]

Thanks All, I think in short I can use it to get me out of trouble, it will get me home and a long way if needed, but maybe I should find/make one if I can.

Thanks all for comments.

As RM said it could well outlast the engine but if you look at the 4.4 block and bolt a rover starter you will see a gap all around the machined starter snout, the ring is just for extra support- you could probably get away with some good silastic.

[mczaf666]

Hi All,

When I started this thread I thought that I would have a few weeks left in the starter motor to source another......wrong!!!!!

Its finally gone and I cannot for the life of me find one for the 4.4.

From the replies to the thread I am now urgently after a starter for the 3.5.

If anyone is keen to sell one or knows anybody that does it would be appreciated.

Thanks again for your replies

Hamish

[Rangier Rover]

Hi All,

When I started this thread I thought that I would have a few weeks left in the starter motor to source another......wrong!!!!!

Its finally gone and I cannot for the life of me find one for the 4.4.

From the replies to the thread I am now urgently after a starter for the 3.5.

If anyone is keen to sell one or knows anybody that does it would be appreciated.

Thanks again for your replies

Hamish
A starter out of 3.5,3.9,4.0 or 4.6 should work. My 4.4 now runs a P38 4.0 starter with a spacer. Turns over faster and uses less amperage. The early 3.5 starters are nearly all buggered these days. Good for a door stop. ;)

[rovercare]

Hi All,

When I started this thread I thought that I would have a few weeks left in the starter motor to source another......wrong!!!!!

Its finally gone and I cannot for the life of me find one for the 4.4.

From the replies to the thread I am now urgently after a starter for the 3.5.

If anyone is keen to sell one or knows anybody that does it would be appreciated.

Thanks again for your replies

Hamish

I got a good second hand one....or 3, come grab one with a box of scotch under your arms:D

[mczaf666]

Thanks for the offer rovercare,

I am just waiting on a call from a mate that is sourcing one on the mornington peninsula. If I get stuck I may take you up. Thanks again.

Hamish

[maxpower]

has anyone sourced a spacer from anywhere? if so where bouts? ive gone through a couple of starters and i think this is the reason. If nto do you know what dimensions the spacer is to get one machined up?

Cheers

[Rangier Rover]

has anyone sourced a spacer from anywhere? if so where bouts? ive gone through a couple of starters and i think this is the reason. If nto do you know what dimensions the spacer is to get one machined up?

Cheers Some one will have to make one for you. Where are you located?

If you cant get one I can make one for you next time I'm at the lathe.
I make them a heat shrink fit so it stays on the starter.
Tony

[maxpower]

Some one will have to make one for you. Where are you located?

If you cant get one I can make one for you next time I'm at the lathe.
I make them a heat shrink fit so it stays on the starter.
Tony

Im in Preston, north area of Melbourne. what would you charge me? do u have to heat shrink it to the starter?

Cheers,
Troy

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip> .... a possible issue with fitting a P76 starter is that the front driveshaft and the starter solenoid can make contact breaking the casting. ... <snip>A long time ago this part of the thread, however.

If there is a problem in how close a 4.4 starter gets to the front driveshaft on a RRc. Source a front driveshaft off a 1985 Torqueflyte-727 auto, they were a solid bar instead of a steel tube and therefore you get a little more clearance between the shaft and the starter.

Diana

[wevets]

This place is the go:
Hi Torque Starters (http://www.enginecentre.com.au/starters-leyland.html)

Made for the p76, also solenoid location can be rotated 360 degrees

thought I'd share. I only stumbled upon the website. google only brought me to this thread.

also I found Land Rover Parts - Home (http://roverparts.com.au) helpful with my p76engine rebuild. Valley gasket, bearings, seals etc that I couldn't get from local parts shops.