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zulu Delta 534
7th May 2008, 08:05 AM
For the second time, my 2001 Disco 2 has let me down and left me powerless to do anything about it.
The first time was with a caravan in tow down at Narooma in NSW when I inadvertantly parked too close to an AMCAL chemist and fell victim to the dreaded radio signal jamming of the immobiliser, but that was years ago and I am now wise to these little traps.
But on Saturday the wife and I headed off to Oxenford to buy our supply of meat, parked the car in the normal spot, did the shopping, returned, unlocked the car, put the meat in the freezer, got in the car and..... nothing!
Turned the key again, checked the dash for lights etc., checked for signs of dead battery. Lifted the bonnet and connected the Waeco battery to jump start, and still nothing.
Sat in the car for a couple of minutes and contemplated hopping underneath to check the switch on the gearbox, rang a mate who had just had this part replaced (probably why I jumped to the wrong conclusion) then decided against getting dirty and being reminded about the grease on the good shirt from now on until eternity, and rang another mate.
Whilst making this second call, and having a swift look around to see if a new AMCAL had been installed since our last visit, my attention was attracted to the key itself. No red light!!
A new battery cost $3.85 from the newsagent, and this was fitted to the key, and 'voila', instant engine, relief, and feigned smugness, all at once, so off we set over the road to the mobil servo a couple of clicks down the highway to refuel.
Did it start the second time. No bloody way. No red light on the key, no nothing. We pushed the car off the driveway, away from the bowsers (and I might add they don't steer or stop too well without an engine, a bit like the Series 2a WITH an engine) and commenced fiddling with the key again, ever mindful of the 30 second unhooked memory loss (Safety?) feature of this animal.
To cut a long story short my key is now fitted with a piece of cardboard to hold the battery firmly in contact with what I now know to be a broken (or unstressed) positive terminal in the battery compartment of the key.
I hope this sad little tale might help someone one day in a similar situation!
Regards
Glen

Pedro_The_Swift
7th May 2008, 08:09 AM
Glad to see you mobile again,,,

red light???

zulu Delta 534
7th May 2008, 08:13 AM
Small red pilot light on the key.
Glen

simonl8353
7th May 2008, 08:18 AM
Yeah, the little LED red light on the key fob itself will illuminate when sending a signal to the receiver on the vehicle.

But whats a 30 second un-hooked memory loss?

These keys are trouble, I'm getting close to needing two new ones at $350 ea!

PAT303
7th May 2008, 08:19 AM
Well I haven't heard that one before.It haven't payed any attention to the red light on the key either,I've only owned it for a couple of years. Pat

Pedro_The_Swift
7th May 2008, 08:23 AM
wellll,,, I just went out and stuck the key in and theres no red light---
apart from the one around the lock barrel,,
:confused:

p38arover
7th May 2008, 09:07 AM
wellll,,, I just went out and stuck the key in and theres no red light---
apart from the one around the lock barrel,,
:confused:

On the fob itself, Pedro. It illuminates when you press the fob button.

Landy110
7th May 2008, 09:11 AM
Fortunately I was blessed with the wisdom to buy a Landy with no technology apart from the radio, and it's on the way out!
What is the Amcal issue? I havn't heard of that!
Steve.

100I
7th May 2008, 09:13 AM
I had the same experience on Monday. I was parked right near a phone tower at Stanthorpe for lunch with a view. First it wouldn't lock (but we weren't far away so I didn't worry about it) then it wouldn't reactivate the immobiliser. I had to put the fob right down in the passenger footwell to get it to boot up. Gave me palpitations for a bit, thought I'd have to hot wire it.

Pedro_The_Swift
7th May 2008, 09:14 AM
well buggar me,, :eek:
time to get that seeing eye dog---:cool:
:D:D

Hucksta
7th May 2008, 10:00 AM
well buggar me,, :eek:
time to get that seeing eye dog---:cool:
:D:D


ha ha .. that's funny Pedro, I guess you found it. Im interested in hearing the AMCAL thing and the phione tower thing. Does it affect D1's in the same way, or is it a D2 problem ..... what is it .... ?????:confused::confused:

Pedro_The_Swift
7th May 2008, 10:10 AM
no ,, just early D2's. The keys run on the same frequency as several common devices,, AMCAL just seems to be a common one,, they changed key frequencies in the later models.

Plenty of posts on this:angel:

Rayngie
7th May 2008, 11:01 AM
can anyone tell me how you actually pull apart the keyfob on a D2 to swap the battery?, i need to do mine and have onlt one fob to ruin!

cheers,

Ray

Pedro_The_Swift
7th May 2008, 11:44 AM
you need a SMALL flat blade screwdriver,,
and just gently lever off the back at the ring end.

RonMcGr
7th May 2008, 12:05 PM
Hi Glen,

Sorry to hear that.
Stories like those make me thankful that I have an old common D1 :D

Cheers

Rayngie
7th May 2008, 12:40 PM
Thanks Pedro,

all done and dusted, I know don't have to stand next to the car for 10mins trying to lock it!

Ray,

Pedro_The_Swift
7th May 2008, 12:42 PM
I did mine a while back now,, threw the old (still working) ones in the car as spares,,:D

zulu Delta 534
7th May 2008, 01:06 PM
I'm still not 100% sure it was the battery, I feel the little sprung contact doohickey inside the key fob may have lost its tension, hence the piece of cardboard 'packing' thats in place now.
They tell me that if the battery is out of the key for more than 30 seconds the thing chucks a wobbly and loses its memory. Similar thing is happening to me but it took 64 years!
As for the 'Amcal' and 'UHF repeater station thing', I have heard that apparently the NRMA has a tow truck permanently on standby on Black Mountain in Canberra to move vehicles away from the UHF repeater tower so their immobilisers can work again, and this affects all makes, not just Rovers. Thank the Lord there werent immobilisers around when I used to go parking at Mt Gravatt!
Regards
Glen