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RonMcGr
11th May 2008, 04:32 PM
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise
Sharri Markson
May 11, 2008 01:35pm
PARENTS will have to pay thousands of dollars to help implement Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's election promise of a computer for every student.
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise | The Courier-Mail (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23679783-952,00.html)
procrastination inc
11th May 2008, 04:37 PM
scraping the barrel Ron.
101RRS
11th May 2008, 04:39 PM
Not particularly interested actually. If it was 4wd related maybe.
RonMcGr
11th May 2008, 04:41 PM
scraping the barrel Ron.
Not at all.
There will be a lot of ****ed off parents who believed the idiot!
Garrett did say Krudd would not deliver and at least he was honest!
Stay tuned for tomorrows "Krudd failure" :mad:
RonMcGr
11th May 2008, 04:42 PM
Not particularly interested actually. If it was 4wd related maybe.
A lot of 4WD owners have kids.
Have a look at the car park..:eek:
Mick-Kelly
11th May 2008, 04:52 PM
Still a hell of a long way ahead of little johnny. At least k-rudd is doing something. There is a reason johnny got his **** handed to him in the election.
Aaron
11th May 2008, 04:58 PM
John Howard did nothing:confused: You been asleep for a while?
Tote
11th May 2008, 05:03 PM
So what possible advantage can a computer for every child have anyway. A computer has a useful lifespan of 3 years, maybe 5 if you settle for running outdated software. I'd rather see a smaller proportion of the money put into a reasonable computer lab that kids have access to that is properly managed and the hardware is replaced on a regular basis. Other wise it's just a waste of money.
Tote
Aaron
11th May 2008, 05:06 PM
That would seem to me a better option. Replacing after 3 years minimum, plus maintainance of laptops is so cheap.
I dunno, Ive always had a great dislike for him, so I cant really add anything positive to this thread.
Ralph1Malph
11th May 2008, 05:18 PM
Perhaps I have an advantage, being a 'maintenence manager' an' all, but I suspected all along that this would be the case. Ongoing costs are the killer hidden extra to any 'gift'.
Reminds me of the tractors we used to send to New Guinea but never any diesal!
Ralph
Disco300Tdi
11th May 2008, 05:28 PM
Another one of Rons' policital threads
Time to put the popcorn on I'm thinking..:D
Fusion
11th May 2008, 05:33 PM
Isn't it funny how everyone likes the opposition till they are in power ...... as normal liberals save the cash and labor spends it ...... wait until Krudd stuffs up bigtime and everyone will want his head ..... politics is such a load of crap :D.
101RRS
11th May 2008, 05:34 PM
On the soapbox again:( and again and again and again and again and again
dobbo
11th May 2008, 05:34 PM
As a parent and a 4wd owner, I would like to know how the information in this thread assists me and my Land Rovers or that of the Land Rover community?
Besides, my children's school has had a full computer room with one PC per child for the last few years with the funds and upgrades provided by the schools families and fundraising.
This was not a fedrally funded scheme, but the desicion of the principle, teachers and parents.
I get you didn't vote Labour, half the internet knows.
Are you saying that it's Mr Rudds responsibilty that the next generation of Australian's should be computer literate? I think this would be the responsibilty of the childrens parents, not the sole responsibilty of some figure head for the government.
Last time I looked the pm didn't help my kids with their homework, assignments or get them to brush their teeth or wipe their bums properly.
Does he help you with yours?
When the time comes I will gladly provide my children with their own P.C's. For it is my responsibility as a loving parent.
cartm58
11th May 2008, 05:39 PM
Don't have kids, don't see why l have to pay for someone else kids either, no one is paying me anything and no one is giving me a helping hand, l am tired of the welfare state and its nanny mentality and native welfare industry.
If Govt wanted to do something to help families reform the tax system stop subsidising inefficient industries, provide tax incentives for people working as its their disposal incomes which fuel this economy and employs us.
Families want to buy kids a computer get the Govt to provide a tax write off over 3 years for the parent and let them buy what they want or need.
George130
11th May 2008, 05:39 PM
I care. More money to pay out bye a promis that the costs were hidden. But then I didn't think they would actually supply every student with a computer. I saw it as the same as the free health care for our military's dependents promis.
dobbo
11th May 2008, 05:46 PM
Don't have kids, don't see why l have to pay for someone else kids either, no one is paying me anything and no one is giving me a helping hand, l am tired of the welfare state and its nanny mentality and native welfare industry.
If Govt wanted to do something to help families reform the tax system stop subsidising inefficient industries, provide tax incentives for people working as its their disposal incomes which fuel this economy and employs us.
Families want to buy kids a computer get the Govt to provide a tax write off over 3 years for the parent and let them buy what they want or need.
Would you could upgrade to a supersized Mc Rant for $1 extra?
RonMcGr
11th May 2008, 05:50 PM
Another one of Rons' policital threads
Time to put the popcorn on I'm thinking..:D
Mate put it on!! :D
Just been watching an Animal Hospital spoof on the TVee :)
No waiting times, happy patients and lots of vets!!
In the mean time we have Queensland Health.....:mad:
Labor, of course and run very badly. Joh would turn over in his grave.
Ralph1Malph
11th May 2008, 05:55 PM
I care. I saw it as the same as the free health care for our military's dependents promis.
As a serving member, they had better honour this one....I know plenty of commando types and ninja thong wearers who would be happy to visit their local members office:mad:. The trial in Townsville has been 'amended' as it is costing too much and they can't get doctors:mad:. Our 'trial' in BNE has been postponed.:mad:.
And they are bringing us home from Iraq, the best match practice we have had in 30 years:mad:
Ralph
Grizzly_Adams
11th May 2008, 05:56 PM
I care. More money to pay out by a promise that the costs were hidden. But then I didn't think they would actually supply every student with a computer. I saw it as the same as the free health care for our military's dependents promis.
... lets not forget little Johnny's billion+ dollar content filter - hands up anyone who actually uses it? Who knows where it is or how to get it?
Did you really believe they'd put a computer into every classroom for free? Computers - like everything else - cost $$$
Sheesh earlier today in another thread people were complaining about changes to the budget which brought in more tax money - ie. an increase in luxury car tax.
Now people are complaining that they're spending money to better enable our kids for the future... please tell me, how can they win? I'd much rather hear reasonable conjecture and constructive ideas then what has been presented so far.......
George130
11th May 2008, 05:58 PM
As a serving member, they had better honour this one....I know plenty of commando types and ninja thong wearers who would be happy to visit their local members office:mad:. The trial in Townsville has been 'amended' as it is costing too much and they can't get doctors:mad:. Our 'trial' in BNE has been postponed.:mad:.
And they are bringing us home from Iraq, the best match practice we have had in 30 years:mad:
Ralph
Then you don't want to know the reaction at work when this one was announced without discussing it with Defence let alone health. We said it at the time and have said it since not a chance without a major increase in funding. The funding for the trial had no hope of working.
Sorry to tell you but they will try to let it die a slow death.
Ralph1Malph
11th May 2008, 06:00 PM
...
Now people are complaining that they're spending money to better enable our kids for the future... please tell me, how can they win? ......
By joves, I think you've nailed it!
My kids have a 'puter at home already and it does not teach them the 3R's...So I don't see the need really..
Cheers
Ralph
RonMcGr
11th May 2008, 06:05 PM
As a serving member, they had better honour this one....I know plenty of commando types and ninja thong wearers who would be happy to visit their local members office:mad:. The trial in Townsville has been 'amended' as it is costing too much and they can't get doctors:mad:. Our 'trial' in BNE has been postponed.:mad:.
And they are bringing us home from Iraq, the best match practice we have had in 30 years:mad:
Ralph
Yes, funny how Krudd things Iraq is a loser, but not Afghanistan?? Beats me.. Maybe you have to be like Krudd to understand Krudd :eek:
Debacle
11th May 2008, 06:06 PM
Mate put it on!! :D
Just been watching an Animal Hospital spoof on the TVee :)
No waiting times, happy patients and lots of vets!!
In the mean time we have Queensland Health.....:mad:
Labor, of course and run very badly. Joh would turn over in his grave.
I think you will find that the current govt gets voted in with a larger % of the total vote than Joh ever did. I think he made it with something like 32% one year, I could be wrong.
You keep going on about how bad the Labor Govt is but the fact is that they keep getting back into power so what does that say about the peoples confidence in the conservative parties that you obviously advocate.
The people have democratically decided whom they want
Ralph1Malph
11th May 2008, 06:06 PM
Then you don't want to know the reaction at work when this one was announced without discussing it with Defence let alone health. We said it at the time and have said it since not a chance without a major increase in funding. The funding for the trial had no hope of working.
Sorry to tell you but they will try to let it die a slow death.
I fear you may be right but not without a fight! ADF also recognised the folly of it and did not support it!
Just about every ex-service organisation, including the RSL has asked for updates on the trial(s).
A promise is a promise after all, so we will keep reminding them.
Ralph
RonMcGr
11th May 2008, 06:11 PM
Ron....you need to read the Sunday Mail. You'd understand then that waiting times have nothing to do with how much money the govt throws at the health system. Throw as much as you like....its still sick humans, displaying human behaviour, being attended to by humans with all their particular foibles :D It's about an aging population, obesity and poor living making people sicker....there are equal people over 65yrs old as there are children under 14yrs old....it is only going to get worse. By 2020 it is doubtful there will be anyone able to care for us aging baby boomers, let alone run the country and fill all the jobs it will take to feed and cloth us and keep us on the road :D Sad fact. Get used to it
Give up moaning about the health system and learn to live with the fact that it will be this way whoever is in power. Lets face it...when you die/have a heart attack/car accident/serious illness, I bet that is where you will be, in the public health system
Pat, I worry about the lack of action to build Hospitals and train new staff. The fools running this state don't give a stuff and therefore pay them peanuts!
I'm a DVA Pensioner and we don't have the same problems as the general public. I have had private insurance on my family since we got married in 1977.
I still feel sorry for those who have to live with the mess Beattie and Bligh have made :mad:
Years ago those fools said thousands are moving to the "Smart State", however the smartar*e who name it that did not expand the state heath system. If anything, the pr*ck made it worse..... and you wonder why I get mad???
dobbo
11th May 2008, 06:18 PM
Yes, funny how Krudd things Iraq is a loser, but not Afghanistan?? Beats me.. Maybe you have to be like Krudd to understand Krudd :eek:
Have you ever thought of a career in politics? So you can solve the countries problems?
George130
11th May 2008, 06:21 PM
Have you ever thought of a career in politics? So you can solve the countries problems?
I have but they don't like my do as I say or get shot attitude.
Debacle
11th May 2008, 06:28 PM
Have you ever thought of a career in politics? So you can solve the countries problems?
Yes good suggestion Dobbo, but we have a problem, providing solutions is a little harder than whinging about everything that disagrees with your particular political ideology.
simonr23
11th May 2008, 06:28 PM
also shouldnt it be KRudd, rather than Krudd? i thought name-calling wasnt allowed on this(and all others that i visit) forum. i dont have an interest in politics(i'm blissfully ignorant), but i do have an interest in decency and maturity. Mr Rudd would have to be a sick individual if his aim as PM is to ruin our country.
rangieman
11th May 2008, 06:29 PM
I realy think some us are fed up with your ranting ron id say get a life find a liberal site where someone cares:D
Disco300Tdi
11th May 2008, 06:34 PM
Have you ever thought of a career in politics? So you can solve the countries problems?
Please explain........
Debacle
11th May 2008, 06:36 PM
Please explain........
They would make a good couple
Pedro_The_Swift
11th May 2008, 06:40 PM
Hmm, maybe the Rants forum might have been a better choice,,,
its always a concern bringing up religion/politics around the camp fire,,,
rangieman
11th May 2008, 06:42 PM
2 Ways of starting a war arguments about politics or religion :rocket::2up:
Fusion
11th May 2008, 06:43 PM
Hmm, maybe the Rants forum might have been a better choice,,,
its always a concern bringing up religion/politics around the camp fire,,,
Good point pedro somebody could lose an eye with this subject around a fire with sticks :D:angel::wasntme:.
Fusion
11th May 2008, 06:46 PM
2 Ways of starting a war arguments about politics or religion :rocket::2up:
Another 2 that will start a war is the Holden v's Ford or Land Rover v's Toyota ........:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
101RRS
11th May 2008, 06:47 PM
The general etiquette for discussion at a dinner party is no religion or politics - I think the same should apply to fireside chats and landie forums.
Garry
Hucksta
11th May 2008, 06:52 PM
Hmm, maybe the Rants forum might have been a better choice,,,
Yeah, gotta agree with you there Pedro,
As much as i would like to unload on certain politicians i will bite my tongue and keep it civilised.
I think that this forum should be above all that stuff, it would be a good idea to leave politics and religion to other, more suitable forums.
Hucksta
Debacle
11th May 2008, 06:53 PM
The general etiquette for discussion at a dinner party is no religion or politics - I think the same should apply to fireside chats and landie forums.
Garry
Thats fair enough, but how about we include Race into the exclusions
dobbo
11th May 2008, 06:54 PM
Yes good suggestion Dobbo, but we have a problem, providing solutions is a little harder than whinging about everything that disagrees with your particular political ideology.
I would like to hear what Big Mac's political ideology is, I wonder if he will post it?
rangieman
11th May 2008, 06:57 PM
Another 2 that will start a war is the Holden v's Ford or Land Rover v's Toyota ........:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Well seeing as ford did own landrover thats all that counts Ford & landrover :arms::thumbsup::clap2::woot::lol2::rolleyes: The rest are crap:p
Hymie
11th May 2008, 07:10 PM
For what it's worth.
I'm glad I like in a democracy where Ron has the right to express His opinion freely, whether I agree or disagree with it.
Forget your petty squabbles about Rons political leanings and spare a thought for the countless Burmese people who can't even get aid because of a dictatorship.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Tombie
11th May 2008, 07:16 PM
Ron is a welcome and active member here and entitled to his opinion.
He expressed nothing, but his frustration for the current political establishment.
He used no offensive language, and attacked no-one here personally yet has since been attacked by the members of this forum for his beliefs.
NO government is going to please ALL the people.
And those that staunchly follow the same party regardless of its actions also need a good swift kick up the backside.
People, read, watch and understand what you are seeing...
The number of backflips of the current party in power are amazing.
This is not to say the old party didnt.. But this one has made quite a few in the past few months.
Most everyone here had a reasonable life during the reign of Jonny...
Lets hope it continues or gets better with the current party.
THIS FORUM IS JUST LIKE A TV....
IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT YOUR SEEING & HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO THE TOPIC...
CHANGE THE CHANNEL....
But respect Rons right to his opinion, to share it, and to be respected.
rangieman
11th May 2008, 07:18 PM
For what it's worth.
I'm glad I like in a democracy where Ron has the right to express His opinion freely, whether I agree or disagree with it.
Forget your petty squabbles about Rons political leanings and spare a thought for the countless Burmese people who can't even get aid because of a dictatorship.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
True but some people need to learn when to stop their ranting ;):D
solmanic
11th May 2008, 07:41 PM
But respect Rons right to his opinion, to share it, and to be respected.
I respect Ron's right (and everyone else's for that matter) to express his opinion, however, I think people need to exercise restraint when it comes to expressing an opinion where it is guaranteed to cause division and dis-harmony.
This is a LAND ROVER forum and we are all here to share in something that unites us. It sours the general mood when someone lobs a turd into the punchbowl.
And although it is a valid point that if we don't like what we read, then we can just not look... it's a bit like a car crash - hard to turn away. The responsibility lies firmly with the person starting the thread to decide whether they are posting a genuine, relevant question, something informative, fun and helpful, or just something that's bound to start an argument.
I agree - this should have gone in the rants section.
Tombie
11th May 2008, 07:46 PM
Aside from the heading of the thread, where did he rant?
He quoted and posted a link, pointing out that the taxpayer is to fund a program introduced by the current government...
And this is Campfire Chat...
The rants have come from the replies, not from Rons post.
Tombie
11th May 2008, 07:50 PM
Amazingly how un-objective we become when politics are mentioned.
- Promise of Computers for all children - FAILED
- Promise of ALL troops recalled - NOPE, only half now.
Regardless of who, its still a failure
CraigE
11th May 2008, 08:01 PM
I thought Krudd may be ok, but is just another blatant liar and cheat.
Like the luxury car tax, $57k, you will be lucky to get a half decent 4x4 for that..
Worst choice Aust has made I fear.
CraigE
Debacle
11th May 2008, 08:03 PM
Amazingly how un-objective we become when politics are mentioned.
- Promise of Computers for all children - FAILED
- Promise of ALL troops recalled - NOPE, only half now.
Regardless of who, its still a failure
The current Govt has only been in power for 6 months so to expect them to implement all of their policies, especially prior to their first budget is a big ask.
Best if their performance is assessed when their term is up for re election.
There was nothing personal posted about Ron, just some reactions to his views, which is how a healthy democracy works.
Why does everyone get so precious when there is criticism ???
rangieman
11th May 2008, 08:13 PM
Aside from the heading of the thread, where did he rant?
He quoted and posted a link, pointing out that the taxpayer is to fund a program introduced by the current government...
And this is Campfire Chat...
The rants have come from the replies, not from Rons post.
But there has been ranting in another thread about a simular matter no names tho:angel:;):D
But all aside its helping the post count:cool:
And its general chat not camp fire chat
101RRS
11th May 2008, 08:20 PM
Aside from the heading of the thread, where did he rant?
He quoted and posted a link, pointing out that the taxpayer is to fund a program introduced by the current government...
And this is Campfire Chat...
The rants have come from the replies, not from Rons post.
Have no problem with the issue - just the rants by the poster on the same general point over a number of threads - is almost to the point of winding up the forum to see what the response will be - worked this time.
The record is well and truely cracked - can the moderator move this thread into the rants section where arguably it better sits.
Xavie
11th May 2008, 08:39 PM
So what possible advantage can a computer for every child have anyway.
Tote
This interested me when you said this because after I read the article I thought- Jeez, all these schools think they won't need textbooks or paper to write on because it will all be on computers. I think it will pose any advantages. It is one thing to learn how to use a computer well and another to be solely reliant.
That's a big thing. I suspect it will cause quite a social failure and I also think it will be extremely bad physically for the students hands and their eyes. Taking in to account we are talking laptops and not desktops.
I believe writing and reading from books is very important and no matter how much I use a computer I could never give up my text books or note pads.
And with 30 grand of infrastructure in each school and a lot of that electrical it sounds like we will meet our emission reduction after all.:confused:
Xav
dobbo
11th May 2008, 08:41 PM
x2
Sometimes I think its deliberate....
Ron must have been bored this afternoon and could think of no better way to amuse himself :D (ducks for cover ;))
I tend to agree,
what it has to do with me and my Land Rovers, I do not know, after all this is AULRO not a political based forum. We have all read threads started by the poster under with the same message, time after time after time. We all knew of his personal feelings and political views about 20 threads ago.
I for one do not care, for the matter. My kids are my problem, like I posted if they need a PC of their own I will purchase one for them, I don't want a handout, I don't need my nose rubbed in someone elses crap.
If you want to run the country get elected, if you want to talk about Land Rovers start a thread.
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 05:57 AM
x2
Sometimes I think its deliberate....
Ron must have been bored this afternoon and could think of no better way to amuse himself :D (ducks for cover ;))
No Pat.
ANGRY!
Every time "Rudd" is in the news, it is NOT positive.
I'll leave it there, seeing he has so many "admirers".
Ron
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 05:59 AM
I tend to agree,
what it has to do with me and my Land Rovers, I do not know, after all this is AULRO not a political based forum. We have all read threads started by the poster under with the same message, time after time after time. We all knew of his personal feelings and political views about 20 threads ago.
I for one do not care, for the matter. My kids are my problem, like I posted if they need a PC of their own I will purchase one for them, I don't want a handout, I don't need my nose rubbed in someone elses crap.
If you want to run the country get elected, if you want to talk about Land Rovers start a thread.
Okay Dobbo,
I'll watch YOUR threads with interest.
numpty
12th May 2008, 09:42 AM
No Pat.
I'll leave it there,
Ron
:arms::arms::arms::arms:
rangieman
12th May 2008, 09:45 AM
:arms::arms::arms::arms:
x2:banana::clap2::thumbsup::wallbash::bangin:
stevo68
12th May 2008, 09:55 AM
I tend to agree,
what it has to do with me and my Land Rovers, I do not know, after all this is AULRO not a political based forum. We have all read threads started by the poster under with the same message, time after time after time. We all knew of his personal feelings and political views about 20 threads ago.
I for one do not care, for the matter. My kids are my problem, like I posted if they need a PC of their own I will purchase one for them, I don't want a handout, I don't need my nose rubbed in someone elses crap.
If you want to run the country get elected, if you want to talk about Land Rovers start a thread. Just using this as an example as it has popped up a few times in here and on other threads, this whole...whats this got to do with LR or 4WDing. This is General, campfire chat, and yes people do talk anything from politics to god know what. Have a peruse of General right now.....how much is actually to do with LR's?
As Tombie very succinctly pointed out...don't like the channel, change it. Don't suggest it should be placed elsewhere, or doesnt have a place in this or that section, if you don't like the content...move on. Why is that so hard for people. If you enter into a topic, that is your CHOICE, just as it is a CHOICE to post up your own thread. And whats laughable is if someone has a penchant for a particular type of thread per se, which has been mentioned here, some of you still enter into. There are many people on here whose threads have a certain "flavour", I exercise my CHOICE not to enter into them....its called self control,
Regards
Stevo
stevo68
12th May 2008, 10:13 AM
I bet out in the real world, punches would have been thrown long before this around a campfire :D Possibly...but depends on what type of knobs you have sitting around the campfire...doesnt it? It depends on the intellectual capacity or lack thereof that you are dealing with as to who would be likely to throw a punch. A dimwitted yobbo might, someone with some smarts wouldn't. I have had some terrific and passionate debates before with friends and family on similiar type issues, its debating or expressing in an adult and mature way that makes the difference,
Regards
Stevo
Grizzly_Adams
12th May 2008, 10:19 AM
Possibly...but depends on what type of knobs you have sitting around the campfire...doesnt it? It depends on the intellectual capacity or lack thereof that you are dealing with as to who would be likely to throw a punch. A dimwitted yobbo might, someone with some smarts wouldn't. I have had some terrific and passionate debates before with friends and family on similiar type issues, its debating or expressing in an adult and mature way that makes the difference,
Regards
Stevo
OR how much you've had to drink :twobeers::whistling:
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 10:32 AM
I bet out in the real world, punches would have been thrown long before this around a campfire :D
Pat, I seriously doubt it!
Those who throw sh*t behind a computer keyboard are the ones who would not be game to say "Boo", in your face.
numpty
12th May 2008, 10:35 AM
Pat, I seriously doubt it!
a com Those who throw sh*t behind puter keyboard are the ones who would not be game to say "Boo", in your face.
So you'd be including yourself in that little tirade?:eek:
29dinosaur
12th May 2008, 11:22 AM
Ron - take a bex and a good lie down mate.... lets face it mate .. this country has gone to the dogs politically - none of them are any good.... they're all like those kinds that live in the depths of the harbour - muck licking bottom dwellers. (Doesn't matter which party!)
waynep
12th May 2008, 11:37 AM
I bet out in the real world, punches would have been thrown long before this around a campfire :D
I have visions of the Normie Rowe and Ron Casey stouch on TV all those years ago.... ;)
now let me see - who here could fill those roles ??:)
incisor
12th May 2008, 11:48 AM
I have visions of the Normie Rowe and Ron Casey stouch on TV all those years ago.... ;)
now let me see - who here could fill those roles ??:)
:wheelchair::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
UncleHo
12th May 2008, 11:52 AM
G'day Folks :)
Oh! what an entertaining thread, it doesn't matter who or what party gets into power, it is all controlled by the bureaucrats anyway, it is them that implement the policies, and if certain members of them do not like particular policies, then it is "Buried" in some draw, only to emerge when a reveiw is called, or when there is an upcoming election where it can be used as an example of a failed police or an unfulfilled promise be opposing parties, the TV show "Yes, Minister" is closer to the truth than most would like to admit.:angel:
cheers
rangieman
12th May 2008, 11:53 AM
How about one of the positives from rudd , Upping the medicare levi from 50 g to 100 g ,
It had been at 50 g since the introduction by the Howard goverment for how many years
Now if you want private cover and which the howard goverment forced you to have it if you earnt more than 50 g or you paid a premium in tax
Now the howard goverment was stuck in the 50,s and never raised the fresh hold for the levi , even with wage,s creeping up and so many people and family,s fell into the loop hole i for one have paid the cost of this ancient pay level
And also the health care company,s kept putting their prices up and the howard goverment did nothing they allowed all the increas,s:eek:
We could go on for years with the pro.s and cons of both mobs , but in the end you only end up with puppets and clowns who ever the party is
Bushwanderer
12th May 2008, 11:58 AM
Hi All,
I'm NOT interested in people's political views or leaning. They cause a lot of heat, but little action. CAN WE PLEASE remove such discussions from this forum?
Best Wishes,
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 12:06 PM
So you'd be including yourself in that little tirade?:eek:
If you say so, although I am not slanging "other people" in this forum over this matter!
stevo68
12th May 2008, 12:20 PM
Hi All,
I'm NOT interested in people's political views or leaning. They cause a lot of heat, but little action. CAN WE PLEASE remove such discussions from this forum?
Best Wishes, Then its easy...dont read and dont respond as per my post earlier. So what if it causes heat and no action, who is anyone to dictate what can and can't be posted, just cause it aint there cuppa tea? How about CAN WE PLEASE stop having people who have no interest in a particular thread, throwing in their 2 bobs worth, just cause they dont like it :p and asking to have it removed. God if that happened, all my fave shows would be taken off air :wasntme:,
Regards
Stevo
rovercare
12th May 2008, 12:27 PM
, who is anyone to dictate what can and can't be posted,
Regards
Stevo
*cough* pretty sure I've seen you dictate the proper procession of a thread many times Stevo, just like this instance *cough*:p
But yea, maybe everyone should take a leaf out of Ron's book and make use of the ignore list, then you can continue on in your own blissful existance, without all those irritating posts to concern you:Rolling:
stevo68
12th May 2008, 12:33 PM
*cough* pretty sure I've seen you dictate the proper procession of a thread many times Stevo, just like this instance *cough*:p
But yea, maybe everyone should take a leaf out of Ron's book and make use of the ignore list, then you can continue on in your own blissful existance, without all those irritating posts to concern you:Rolling: Proper procession is different to content :p, I have never jumped onto someones thread and said it should be removed, just cause I didnt like the content, or cause it wasnt about LRs that it shouldnt be allowed. I choose to either get involved or not to...that is my Choice. However if I have posted up a particular topic and people have gone off topic...then yes I have dictated for want of a better word to peace orf or stick with the content :angel:
Regards
Stevo
rovercare
12th May 2008, 12:40 PM
Proper procession is different to content :p, I have never jumped onto someones thread and said it should be removed, just cause I didnt like the content, or cause it wasnt about LRs that it shouldnt be allowed. I choose to either get involved or not to...that is my Choice. However if I have posted up a particular topic and people have gone off topic...then yes I have dictated for want of a better word to peace orf or stick with the content :angel:
Regards
Stevo
Well this one is well off topic:D, yea, let Ron have his crazy whiny threads, like you say, don't like it, don't read it, ..............or personally, read it for some light hearted entertainment while having lunch, poke some fun, and wonder if the inteweb is going to eat me:eek:
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 01:55 PM
Amazing how this:
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RonMcGr
Wizard
Subscriber
Another Rudd failure!
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise
Sharri Markson
May 11, 2008 01:35pm
PARENTS will have to pay thousands of dollars to help implement Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's election promise of a computer for every student.
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise | The Courier-Mail
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Had a similar effect to:
A Driving to a waterside workers pub in a new car or non Holden and comming out to find it trashed, or
B Walking into a dockside pub and saying "I vote Liberal". (
You would not get out alive.)
I'm surprised some of you own Landrovers..
numpty
12th May 2008, 02:05 PM
What happened to "I'll leave it there" :p
FenianEel
12th May 2008, 02:06 PM
YouTube - Old Days Of Our Lives theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4G1lr30bzc)
numpty
12th May 2008, 02:09 PM
Amazing how this:
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RonMcGr
Wizard
Subscriber
Another Rudd failure!
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise
Sharri Markson
May 11, 2008 01:35pm
PARENTS will have to pay thousands of dollars to help implement Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's election promise of a computer for every student.
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise | The Courier-Mail
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Had a similar effect to:
A Driving to a waterside workers pub in a new car or non Holden and comming out to find it trashed, or
B Walking into a dockside pub and saying "I vote Liberal". (
You would not get out alive.)
I'm surprised some of you own Landrovers..
Basically Ron, it was just another of your anti Labor rants, and I'm sure most know how you feel, so I'm surprised you're shocked at the response.:eek:
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 02:21 PM
Basically Ron, it was just another of your anti Labor rants, and I'm sure most know how you feel, so I'm surprised you're shocked at the response.:eek:
Is that right :D
I guess if I posted a news article saying how lovely Kevin Rudd is, I'd be thanked 100 times and shouted a beer... Jesus H C....... Thank god this is NOT a pub :(
Fusion
12th May 2008, 03:14 PM
Ron mate you know how to get people going :D.
All i can say is it don't matter what party it running the country the same thing is going to happen ...... some one gets money and some one else misses out ...... some people cheer and some people boo .... the bloke running the show is just a puppet for all these clown that get stage fright .
Bring back Pauline Hanson and lets have some fun :D:p:angel::wasntme:.
numpty
12th May 2008, 03:28 PM
Is that right :D
I guess if I posted a news article saying how lovely Kevin Rudd is, I'd be thanked 100 times and shouted a beer... Jesus H C....... Thank god this is NOT a pub :(
Well.....we know that would be a joke:p.
It's not what you say in your posts, it's the way you say it. Most would accept another persons view on a subject, even me;), but your bigoted invective would hardly be considered "campfire chat".
Only my humble opinion of course.
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 03:29 PM
Ron mate you know how to get people going :D.
All i can say is it don't matter what party it running the country the same thing is going to happen ...... some one gets money and some one else misses out ...... some people cheer and some people boo .... the bloke running the show is just a puppet for all these clown that get stage fright .
Bring back Pauline Hanson and lets have some fun :D:p:angel::wasntme:.
Mate, I only have to post two words to get them frothing from the mouth :D
They must think that every word I write is doom against there leader :angel:
Hey at least Pauline was out spoken, said her peace and did not back down :D
That is what got her into trouble!
Scallops
12th May 2008, 03:33 PM
Mate, I only have to post two words to get them frothing from the mouth :D
They must think that every word I write is doom against there leader :angel:
Hey at least Pauline was out spoken, said her peace and did not back down :D
That is what got her into trouble!
When is the next Albany Creek Flat Earth Society meeting, Ron?
B92 8NW
12th May 2008, 03:44 PM
When is the next Albany Creek Flat Earth Society meeting, Ron?
Haha:D.
I've heard it's held in a castle on a cloud, 'where there are no floors for Cosette to sweep.'
numpty
12th May 2008, 03:47 PM
Pauline Hanson:o:o Gawd save us.
So this is where it all stems from.:eek:
Pedro_The_Swift
12th May 2008, 03:49 PM
this her?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/05/341.jpg
Sleepy
12th May 2008, 03:49 PM
Had a similar effect to:
A Driving to a waterside workers pub in a new car or non Holden and comming out to find it trashed, or
B Walking into a dockside pub and saying "I vote Liberal". (
You would not get out alive.).
C Walking into the MCG Members wearing a flannelette shirt, or
D Parking my 1976 180B in the members car park at the Grand Prix, or
E Wearing my Midnight Oil T-shirt when voting at North Sydney.
;)
Pedro_The_Swift
12th May 2008, 03:50 PM
Hows that typing shoulder doing Mr Numpty?
numpty
12th May 2008, 03:56 PM
Hows that typing shoulder doing Mr Numpty?
I'm pretty good with the one finger/left hand typing these days:D
Why:angel:
Pedro_The_Swift
12th May 2008, 04:01 PM
'cos both mine need doing:(
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 04:02 PM
When is the next Albany Creek Flat Earth Society meeting, Ron?
Firstly, I also apologize for not taking the bait.
It would be unsound for me to comment on a subject within your expertise.:D
Not much of Albany Creek is flat.
We are on a small rise 27m ASL.
It is a 200m down hill walk to the Local Tavern and the walk back is not noticed, so the change in level must be slight.:p
B92 8NW
12th May 2008, 04:02 PM
this her?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/05/341.jpg
I'd have thought Pauline would employ inferior minorities for sweeping duties?
But, she would make a good publican - she's about as cultured as Mme Thenardier...
YouTube - Les Miserables - Master of the House (TAC) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdavdTKfCo4)
dobbo
12th May 2008, 04:27 PM
Amazing how this:
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RonMcGr
Wizard
Subscriber
Another Rudd failure!
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise
Sharri Markson
May 11, 2008 01:35pm
PARENTS will have to pay thousands of dollars to help implement Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's election promise of a computer for every student.
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise | The Courier-Mail
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Had a similar effect to:
A Driving to a waterside workers pub in a new car or non Holden and comming out to find it trashed, or
B Walking into a dockside pub and saying "I vote Liberal". (
You would not get out alive.)
I'm surprised some of you own Landrovers..
I'm sorry Ron you are mistaking your own identity, not ours.
Don't you still own a D1 (AKA The poor mans Range Rover) to tow around your common man's mobile holiday lodge?
You must drive the Town car to Country Club. Considering the age of the D1 it must look rather ghastly and quite frankly bring down the whole value of the car park.
Having not met you due to "Cooma being way to far for you to drive" I can only summise that I am more of a RRS (Range Rover Snob) than you. Due to the fact I own more than one LR with one being a newer vehicle, along with offroading, they get used for soccermum, driving down to and around the horse paddock and pony club duties, with matching horse float. I only like the nice Cognac (not the cheap crap that sends you loco ) and I would not be seen dead towing a Caravan. I would much prefer to stay in the resorts/ motel or if they are not available camping.
ps Kmart has a special on the cheaper tweed jackets (this week only).
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 04:31 PM
I'm sorry Ron you are mistaking your own identity, not ours.
Don't you still own a D1 (AKA The poor mans Range Rover) to tow around your common man's mobile holiday lodge?
You must drive the Town car to Country Club. Considering the age of the D1 it must look rather ghastly and quite frankly bring down the whole value of the car park.
Having not met you due to "Cooma being way to far for you to drive" I can only summise that I am more of a RRS (Range Rover Snob) than you. Due to the fact I own more than one LR with one being a newer vehicle, along with offroading, they get used for soccermum, driving down to and around the horse paddock and pony club duties, with matching horse float. I only like the nice Cognac (not the cheap crap that sends you loco ) and I would not be seen dead towing a Caravan. I would much prefer to stay in the resorts/ motel or if they are not available camping.
ps Kmart has a special on the cheaper tweed jackets (this week only).
Good one!
I've heard worse..
Next you'll be attacking my wife and family... charming, just charming...
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 04:34 PM
Time to vote "Dobbo" as the champion in "Mine is bigger, better than yours"...
Who many others in this site are like that?
RoverLover
12th May 2008, 04:40 PM
I'm sorry Ron you are mistaking your own identity, not ours.
Don't you still own a D1 (AKA The poor mans Range Rover) to tow around your common man's mobile holiday lodge?
You must drive the Town car to Country Club. Considering the age of the D1 it must look rather ghastly and quite frankly bring down the whole value of the car park.
Having not met you due to "Cooma being way to far for you to drive" I can only summise that I am more of a RRS (Range Rover Snob) than you. Due to the fact I own more than one LR with one being a newer vehicle, along with offroading, they get used for soccermum, driving down to and around the horse paddock and pony club duties, with matching horse float. I only like the nice Cognac (not the cheap crap that sends you loco ) and I would not be seen dead towing a Caravan. I would much prefer to stay in the resorts/ motel or if they are not available camping.
ps Kmart has a special on the cheaper tweed jackets (this week only).
How dare you?
you should be ashamed to have an attitude like that.
Who cares if you dont like caravans, or if you dont like D1's because they make you look bad.
Suddenly, everyone is inferior to you, because of the car you drive.... I judge people on there behaviour and attitude,
Not what they drive.
You need to take a good hard look at yourself.
And secondly, Who the hell wears tweed jackets anymore... Where did you get that call from... It was hilarious mate...
Jake
rangieman
12th May 2008, 04:42 PM
Just a quick search of real estate in Albany creek nothing under $380 G mmm nice area :TakeABow:
RonMcGr
12th May 2008, 04:57 PM
Just a quick search of real estate in Albany creek nothing under $380 G mmm nice area :TakeABow:
Yes it is a little over inflated!
I was a lucky man, I bought ours in 1998 for 168,000. Borrowed 20 grand from war service and paid for the rest.
Cheap payments that you can re-use. Updated the kitchen and fitted four rain water tanks since, from the same fund :)
Agents tell me it is all worth 440, but if you sold, where do you go?.
The three kids will do well, eventually :D
Thirty years in the Australian Army, living in all types of places, pays out when you retire and take a redundancy package at the same time :)
numpty
12th May 2008, 04:59 PM
Just a quick search of real estate in Albany creek nothing under $380 G mmm nice area :TakeABow:
That's not expensive for Brisbane these days.
rangieman
12th May 2008, 05:25 PM
That's not expensive for Brisbane these days.
Someone has to pay for all that glorious weather :D
Ralph1Malph
12th May 2008, 05:27 PM
That's not expensive for Brisbane these days.
We are about to settle our new home which was close to 500,000 :(, and it is an avg, un-renovated place (prob stay un-ren for a few yrs:(
The repayments are double what our existing mortage was:o
Oh for a 380K place :p:p:p
Cheers Ralph
oldyella 76
12th May 2008, 05:31 PM
I'm not guilty!
p38arover
12th May 2008, 05:32 PM
And secondly, Who the hell wears tweed jackets anymore... Where did you get that call from... It was hilarious mate...
Crikey, I'll put mine back in the cupboard.
To tell the truth, I don't wear it any more with the moleskins as I've put on too much weight. :(
Fusion
12th May 2008, 05:36 PM
I'm sorry Ron you are mistaking your own identity, not ours.
Don't you still own a D1 (AKA The poor mans Range Rover) to tow around your common man's mobile holiday lodge?
You must drive the Town car to Country Club. Considering the age of the D1 it must look rather ghastly and quite frankly bring down the whole value of the car park.
Having not met you due to "Cooma being way to far for you to drive" I can only summise that I am more of a RRS (Range Rover Snob) than you. Due to the fact I own more than one LR with one being a newer vehicle, along with offroading, they get used for soccermum, driving down to and around the horse paddock and pony club duties, with matching horse float. I only like the nice Cognac (not the cheap crap that sends you loco ) and I would not be seen dead towing a Caravan. I would much prefer to stay in the resorts/ motel or if they are not available camping.
ps Kmart has a special on the cheaper tweed jackets (this week only).
You must be so proud to have a matching horse float and several Land Rovers. But owning all these thing does not make you better than anyone else in the world . Infact you are a lesser of a person if you think you are better than anyone . You are a joke Dobbo . You never have anything good to say unless you think you can get a laugh from it ..... Maybe you should change your name to " Keyboard warrior " :).
rovercare
12th May 2008, 05:39 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ What a cracker, stop pulling hair please:D
beforethevision
12th May 2008, 06:01 PM
Crikey, I'll put mine back in the cupboard.
To tell the truth, I don't wear it any more with the moleskins as I've put on too much weight. :(
And to think, i saw a nice one a few months back and was tempted! Sadly Ron your in a different state, if atleast you were in brisbane i wouldnt feel so alone :P
hahahah
Cheers!
dullbird
12th May 2008, 06:03 PM
Keyboard warrior or not he makes me laugh.
But maybe I just get his humor:)
vnx205
12th May 2008, 06:14 PM
Crikey, I'll put mine back in the cupboard.:(
The only reason the Harris Tweed jacket I bought in Armidale in 1967 is still in the cupboard instead of being worn is that it doesn't get cold enough here to need it.:)
101RRS
12th May 2008, 06:39 PM
The only reason the Harris Tweed jacket I bought in Armidale in 1967 is still in the cupboard instead of being worn is that it doesn't get cold enough here to need it.:)
Mine is because of an extra 50kg:(
vnx205
12th May 2008, 06:51 PM
Oi you blokes.....
nothing wrong with tweed jackets and moleskins :)
Not to us old birds anyway :D;)
- and they obviously last well (that the jackets. not the birds).
I used to wear mine regularly during the 25 years I lived in Yass.
I must admit I didn't wear it a lot in Narrabri though.
numpty
12th May 2008, 06:52 PM
- and they obviously last well (that the jackets. not the birds).
I used to wear mine regularly during the 25 years I lived in Yass.
I must admit I didn't wear it a lot in Narrabri though.
The bird has lasted pretty well too.:p
dobbo
12th May 2008, 07:05 PM
You must be so proud to have a matching horse float and several Land Rovers. But owning all these thing does not make you better than anyone else in the world . Infact you are a lesser of a person if you think you are better than anyone . You are a joke Dobbo . You never have anything good to say unless you think you can get a laugh from it ..... Maybe you should change your name to " Keyboard warrior " :).
Exactly my point, if people honestly believe they are better than other people due to their ownership of a LR (like Ron suggested in his post) they need to remove their head out of their own............
The ownership of my car does not restrict me to vote for a certain political party, likewise the ownership of a certain make of vehicle does not mean I am from a working class background (as Ron suggested in his post)
Personally I could not give a rats lovely jublies who Ron voted for 6 months ago, it does not effect my lifestyle.
Political based threads always cause arguements, so the question is why does the poster always post them?
As for me being a joke, well, if you choose then you could add me to your ignore list then you won't see my funny posts. Actually I would like everyone I ever offended to do that then I could have the entire forum as my own personal journal.
rovercare
12th May 2008, 07:09 PM
As for me being a joke, well, if you choose then you could add me to your ignore list then you won't see my funny posts. Actually I would like everyone I ever offended to do that then I could have the entire forum as my own personal journal.
Not all alone:eek::D
Fusion
12th May 2008, 07:15 PM
Exactly my point, if people honestly believe they are better than other people due to their ownership of a LR (like Ron suggested in his post) they need to remove their head out of their own............
The ownership of my car does not restrict me to vote for a certain political party, likewise the ownership of a certain make of vehicle does not mean I am from a working class background (as Ron suggested in his post)
Personally I could not give a rats lovely jublies who Ron voted for 6 months ago, it does not effect my lifestyle.
Political based threads always cause arguements, so the question is why does the poster always post them?
As for me being a joke, well, if you choose then you could add me to your ignore list then you won't see my funny posts. Actually I would like everyone I ever offended to do that then I could have the entire forum as my own personal journal.
All fair points Dobbo . But as stated before " if you don't like the thread .Then don't read it ".
dobbo
12th May 2008, 07:22 PM
All fair points Dobbo . But as stated before " if you don't like the thread .Then don't read it ".
How do you know you don't like the thread until you read it? Then you get offended by the thread. A nasty response is the logical progression.
And the circle starts again.
rovercare
12th May 2008, 07:24 PM
All fair points Dobbo . But as stated before " if you don't like the thread .Then don't read it ".
You obviously didn;t like Dobbo's post, yet managed to scrumage together a reply to it, why didn;t you just not read it??????;)
Damn these colons, I keep hitting the wrond button, used to bloody PLC's:mad:
Fusion
12th May 2008, 07:35 PM
You obviously didn;t like Dobbo's post, yet managed to scrumage together a reply to it, why didn;t you just not read it??????;)
Damn these colons, I keep hitting the wrond button, used to bloody PLC's:mad:
aaaahhhh !!! thats good coming from someone with popcorn in his mouth :p:D.
Fusion
12th May 2008, 07:37 PM
How do you know you don't like the thread until you read it? Then you get offended by the thread. A nasty response is the logical progression.
And the circle starts again.
Didn't you just say that you are getting tired of Rons political threads ? the title says thats what it's going to be and you can see who started the thread . so why go in and read it and start jumping on fingers ?
rovercare
12th May 2008, 07:42 PM
Didn't you just say that you are getting tired of Rons political threads ? the title says thats what it's going to be and you can see who started the thread . so why go in and read it and start jumping on fingers ?
And there you go again:D swings and round-a-bouts:Rolling:
Your sticking it to Dobbo, for sticking it to Ron:lol2::rolleyes:
Fusion
12th May 2008, 07:52 PM
And there you go again:D swings and round-a-bouts:Rolling:
Your sticking it to Dobbo, for sticking it to Ron:lol2::rolleyes:
And you're starting to stick it to me who is sticking it to Dobbo who is sticking it to Ron :D ....... Hmmmmm me thinks indicator is stuck on in the round-a-bout;).
rovercare
12th May 2008, 07:55 PM
And you're starting to stick it to me who is sticking it to Dobbo who is sticking it to Ron :D ....... Hmmmmm me thinks indicator is stuck on in the round-a-bout;).
Ding ding ding ding..........winaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr:D
dobbo
12th May 2008, 08:03 PM
And you're starting to stick it to me who is sticking it to Dobbo who is sticking it to Ron :D ....... Hmmmmm me thinks indicator is stuck on in the round-a-bout;).
Don't care who you think you are
but no one is "sticking it to Dobbo"
unless theres money involved.
rovercare
12th May 2008, 08:06 PM
Don't care who you think you are
but no one is "sticking it to Dobbo"
unless theres money involved.
As opposed to sticking it IN Dobbo:eek::Rolling:
dobbo
12th May 2008, 08:11 PM
As opposed to sticking it IN Dobbo:eek::Rolling:
Only if I get to keep all of the baby bonus.
rovercare
12th May 2008, 08:21 PM
Only if I get to keep all of the baby bonus.
:D Best you be buying an RR sport;)
dobbo
13th May 2008, 08:51 AM
:D Best you be buying an RR sport;)
I looked at one, took it for a test drive, I looked at the new Defender and had that for the day.
Ended up with the 4BD1 County, better car IMHO.
dobbo
13th May 2008, 10:32 AM
Amazing how this:
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RonMcGr
Wizard
Subscriber
Another Rudd failure!
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise
Sharri Markson
May 11, 2008 01:35pm
PARENTS will have to pay thousands of dollars to help implement Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's election promise of a computer for every student.
Parents to pay for Kevin Rudd's student computer promise | The Courier-Mail
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Had a similar effect to:
A Driving to a waterside workers pub in a new car or non Holden and comming out to find it trashed, or
B Walking into a dockside pub and saying "I vote Liberal". (
You would not get out alive.)
I'm surprised some of you own Landrovers..
The Bold section, if your not implying you are better than us all, then what are you implying by "I'm suprised some of you own Land Rovers"
RonMcGr
13th May 2008, 10:37 AM
The Bold section, if your not implying you are better than us all, then what are you implying by "I'm suprised some of you own Land Rovers"
Oh, FFS!!!
Goodbye!:mad:
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