View Full Version : Alternate parts for Disco I & II exterior mirrors
langy
19th May 2008, 09:59 PM
When your Disco or Rangie exterior mirror ceases to function - like mine did - and you can't find spares, try a mid 90's Ford. The mechanism is the same as the LR version. And they are left and right handed.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Thew Ford version is on the right. The LR mirror clips to the adaptor plate which then clips to the circular mirror motor unit.
The adaptor plate ( round to square ) unclips but needs care - other wise it can break. And if your mirror glass is totally cactus, the Ford version actually clips on direct to the motor assembly. (But it's smaller than the LR mirror, so it might look weird)
The only modification required is to un-solder the ford wires and re-solder the the LR wires. It's a bit fiddly but can be done.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Just copy the LR wiring (The pic shows the Ford wiring) and it works a treat.
And,
If you rub up against a tree and pop the whole mirror assembly off the door frame, don't panic - the other side of the door frame has a plastic L-shaped device that hold the mirror to the door. If it gets overloaded, the bolts simply pull thru the plastic and save the whole assembly from major damage. Either a new piece of plastic (BTR7837 & 8) or some washers mean you can refit the assembly without problems.
sclarke
19th May 2008, 10:09 PM
or buy a complete rover mirror assembly for $50
Good work thou
RonMcGr
20th May 2008, 07:07 AM
During the time that Ford owned Jaguar and Land Rover,
you will probably find quite a lot of Ford compatible parts :)
For instance, Jaguar use a lot of Ford relays and misc electrical parts.
langy
20th May 2008, 07:26 AM
Oh, did I mention that the Ford bit cost me $5 ?
p38arover
20th May 2008, 07:34 AM
or buy a complete rover mirror assembly for $50
Or $300-$500 for the P38A
4X4V8
20th May 2008, 08:02 AM
I have been playing with a 2nd-hand LHS mirror I got on ebay. It is the first time I have been dudded on ebay but what was supposed to be a good mirror with only a slightly faulty electric motor operation turned out to be a mostly okay shell with stuffed innards. There are all sorts of broken bits that fell out of the package when I got it.
Anyway I am trying to place my mirror's internals (the mirror functions ok, just cosmetically not so good, the previous owner liked parking against it, it seems) in the new mirror, so I don't feel quite so bad about wasting $75.
Did you manage to pull the wiring out of the housing completely? I have tried and it doesn't pull out easily. Is there a trick to it? I have pulled the wires out of the connector but there is resistance in the hinge point of the mirror... any suggestions?
RonMcGr
20th May 2008, 08:19 AM
I have been playing with a 2nd-hand LHS mirror I got on ebay. It is the first time I have been dudded on ebay but what was supposed to be a good mirror with only a slightly faulty electric motor operation turned out to be a mostly okay shell with stuffed innards. There are all sorts of broken bits that fell out of the package when I got it.
Anyway I am trying to place my mirror's internals (the mirror functions ok, just cosmetically not so good, the previous owner liked parking against it, it seems) in the new mirror, so I don't feel quite so bad about wasting $75.
Did you manage to pull the wiring out of the housing completely? I have tried and it doesn't pull out easily. Is there a trick to it? I have pulled the wires out of the connector but there is resistance in the hinge point of the mirror... any suggestions?
Report the seller!
If the mirror on a D2 is similar to a D1, I maybe able to help out with your problem.
JohnE
20th May 2008, 08:33 AM
thats a good one Langy,
that adapter plate that the mirror clips to, also has pop off,in case the mirror bends the wrong way, i know i did it in a tight carpark pillar, the mirror just pops out, the difficulty is the lugs on the plate break, but ye old supaglue repaired mine.
john
Pedro_The_Swift
20th May 2008, 08:49 AM
When your Disco or Rangie exterior mirror ceases to function - like mine did - and you can't find spares, try a mid 90's Ford. The mechanism is the same as the LR version. And they are left and right handed.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/technical-chatter/8674d1211196570-alternate-parts-disco-i-ii-exterior-mirrors-resize-2008-05-13-013.jpg
Thew Ford version is on the right. The LR mirror clips to the adaptor plate which then clips to the circular mirror motor unit.
The adaptor plate ( round to square ) unclips but needs care - other wise it can break. And if your mirror glass is totally cactus, the Ford version actually clips on direct to the motor assembly. (But it's smaller than the LR mirror, so it might look weird)
The only modification required is to un-solder the ford wires and re-solder the the LR wires. It's a bit fiddly but can be done.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/technical-chatter/8675d1211196637-alternate-parts-disco-i-ii-exterior-mirrors-resize-2008-05-13-015.jpg
Just copy the LR wiring (The pic shows the Ford wiring) and it works a treat.
And,
If you rub up against a tree and pop the whole mirror assembly off the door frame, don't panic - the other side of the door frame has a plastic L-shaped device that hold the mirror to the door. If it gets overloaded, the bolts simply pull thru the plastic and save the whole assembly from major damage. Either a new piece of plastic (BTR7837 & 8) or some washers mean you can refit the assembly without problems.
What a great TUTORIAL Langy;):D
sclarke
20th May 2008, 09:01 AM
During the time that Ford owned Jaguar and Land Rover,
you will probably find quite a lot of Ford compatible parts :)
For instance, Jaguar use a lot of Ford relays and misc electrical parts.
WRONG..........................
Ford bought LR in MArch 2000
So the production of the D1 and D2 would have been underway....lol
I cant see Ford saying.... "Stop guys.. all the parts the we need that ford have, we must use..... dont continue manufacture until we retool everything"
Where do you get your crazy idea's from??? under a rock in the Pilbara
langy
20th May 2008, 08:34 PM
For Mr 4x4v8: No, the wires have to stay put. Which makes it a bit difficult to solder in situ. Hence the 'fiddley' term.
RonMcGr
21st May 2008, 07:20 AM
WRONG..........................
Ford bought LR in MArch 2000
So the production of the D1 and D2 would have been underway....lol
I cant see Ford saying.... "Stop guys.. all the parts the we need that ford have, we must use..... dont continue manufacture until we retool everything"
Where do you get your crazy idea's from??? under a rock in the Pilbara
Jaguar parts.
Given Ford did that to Jaguar, I would "assume" Land Rover had the same deal!
Now, if you go to the "rock in the Pilbara", you may see this under it!
Jaguar, Land Rover could replace Ford parts with Mercedes ones (http://www.leftlanenews.com/jaguar-land-rover-could-replace-ford-parts-with-mercedes-ones.html)
Business Spectator - Tata has funds to buy Ford's Jaguar next week: sources (http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Ford-Tata-to-sign-Jaguar-deal-next-week-sources-CUGGD?OpenDocument)
<snip> All Jaguar and Land Rover's petrol engines are built in a Ford plant in South Wales, supporting hundreds of jobs there. Diesel engines come from Ford's factory in Dagenham, east London.<snip>.
Jaguar: Finally Ready to Roar? (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/mar2008/db20080325_325999_page_2.htm)
<snip> In recent years, Ford has combined parts and even powertrains of Jaguars and Land Rovers. It has agreed to continue supplying key parts and components to Tata. <snip>.
Now, Mr sclarke,
Will you please research your reply next time, before hitting the send key. It may save your embarrassment.
Redback
21st May 2008, 07:33 AM
Or $300-$500 for the P38A
About the same for the D2:(
So this goes into favorites for future reference, i'm always breaking something:D
Baz.
Pedro_The_Swift
21st May 2008, 07:57 AM
So this goes into favorites for future reference, i'm always breaking something:D
Baz.
yes young grasshopper,,,
when you reach Rons level of Kharma the physical breaking will end---
:angel::wasntme:
sclarke
22nd May 2008, 07:01 PM
Jaguar parts.
Given Ford did that to Jaguar, I would "assume" Land Rover had the same deal!
Now, if you go to the "rock in the Pilbara", you may see this under it!
Jaguar, Land Rover could replace Ford parts with Mercedes ones (http://www.leftlanenews.com/jaguar-land-rover-could-replace-ford-parts-with-mercedes-ones.html)
Business Spectator - Tata has funds to buy Ford's Jaguar next week: sources (http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Ford-Tata-to-sign-Jaguar-deal-next-week-sources-CUGGD?OpenDocument)
<snip> All Jaguar and Land Rover's petrol engines are built in a Ford plant in South Wales, supporting hundreds of jobs there. Diesel engines come from Ford's factory in Dagenham, east London.<snip>.
Jaguar: Finally Ready to Roar? (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/mar2008/db20080325_325999_page_2.htm)
<snip> In recent years, Ford has combined parts and even powertrains of Jaguars and Land Rovers. It has agreed to continue supplying key parts and components to Tata. <snip>.
Now, Mr sclarke,
Will you please research your reply next time, before hitting the send key. It may save your embarrassment.
I stand by my comments.
D1 were manufactured from 1989 to 1998, then D2 from 1998 to 2004
Ford had no input in the D1 and the d2 was already designed and built....
They dont retool for the sake of it...
Will you please research your reply next time, before hitting the send key. It may save your embarrassment :p
Vern
22nd May 2008, 07:09 PM
I'd be guessing that ford and land rover sourced there mirror motors from the same factory in China, land rover came out the front door and ford out the back door:p
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