PM Lubricants

[TP7]

I have been meaning to post this for quite a while. I followed a discussion 3 or 4 months ago about what oil to use in the D2 TD5. A few people mention PM Lubricants. I did some research and decided to give it a go. What I found was:

The tractor noise of the TD5 was greatly reduced.
Acceleration was smoother and seemed to pull harder.
Fuel consumption was better by about 50 - 60kms per tank.

I did 5000kms with it in and then the D2 went in for the 80,000klm service and they used Penrite I think. Straight away I could notice the noise increase and the smoothness was gone.

Reason I remembered to post this is I just went and picked up some more PM Lubricant oil yesterday as I am ready for the 85,000 oil change.

I highly recommend giving the PM lubricant a go.

[langy]

A few more details please: Which type do you use in the engine ?; cost ?; and have you tried any of their gear oils in the R380 (if you have a manual)?

[Slunnie]

But the PM oils dont have nearly the ratings of Mobil 1

[EchiDna]

TD5 "tractor" noise!! LOL!!

heard a 4BD1 lately? :)

[long stroke]

TD5 "tractor" noise!! LOL!!

heard a 4BD1 lately? :)

Hahahahahahahah but they are a "tractor" motor:D

[scarry]

it (td5) shouldnt need an oil change at 5oooks......should go at least 10000

i use cstrol edge in mine full syn 5w-30 similar specs to mobil 1 no probs:)

[B92 8NW]

Tractor noise? Heard a Kubota L275... oh wait:p

I think the nearest Victorian distributor is Numurkah for the NE region. Also at the price of PM lubricants, I wouldn't be changing every 5,000, esp. when they say on their site that in certain applications the intervals are 100,000 km.

[TP7]

Further details:
Synthetic oil
SAE 15W40
ACEA: E5/E3/B3/A3
$56 for 5 litres

I just assumed that I should change the oil every 5000k from all the talk on forums about changing the oil in deisels every 5000k. If I shouldn't then great.

PM do claim longer runs between changes.

From my understanding about the benefits of the PM Oil is it is all about the quality of the additives that make the difference. Their website has a lot of info. PM Lubricants Australia - Manufacturers of the best automotive lubricants in Australia (http://www.pmlubricants.com.au)

I haven't tried the other oils: diff gear box (auto) etc as my mechanical abilities are limited as is my toolshed so i rely on the mechanic to do those.

Fair go on the tractor noise comment as this is my first deisel!!!!!

[Slunnie]

Ahhh, quite seriously. I'm not sure who recommended this oil for a TD5, but it's not even on the chart for them.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1414.jpg

You will find the Mobil 1 specs as:
5w-50 or 0w-40
API SM/SL/SJ/CF
ACEA A3/B3
A3/B4

Delvac 1 (Diesel) are:
5w-40
API CI-4 plus/CI-4/CH-4/CG-4/CF-4/CF/SL/SJ
ACEA E7/E5/E4/E3

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Although there may be some merit in what PM states, the manufacturers recommended service intervals should always be adhered to regardless of how good your oil is.
In a diesel it is more so the case. Being "oil burners", the two leading factors of the lubrication system is to obviously keep everything slipping nicely and to also suspend the soot and carbon that bypasses the rings from combustion. Your oil will only hold so much as will your oil filter. Once these reach capacity you have no where to go but change both. Diesels will sludge very quickly particularly when using a mineral oil. A synthetic oil will resist sludging longer but everything has a life span.
Oils designed for petrol engines are generally only good for short emergency topups.
Working for a diesel engine company, i see this kind of engine failure many times a month.
However if you do have a failure, let me know and i will be only too happy to quote you a price!! :)

[audioaddict]

hi there , just joined the site and while on the topic of pm lubricants i am looking at becoming the west australian distributor , i am currently doing testing on a 2000 td5 discovery, 2007 diesel rodeo and a 96 vs ute with a supercharged 5 litre. i will fill you in on my own personal experiences once i have some feedback. I had a hard time finding anyone who had anything bad to say about pm lubricants and then sent an email to them which resulted in the manager flying to w.a to meet me in person.This is just a sideline for me as i have an auto electrical business as my main focus. mind you if this product meets my expectation i may direct a lot more energy to promoting this product.if anyone would like any info on pm lubricants please give me a call
Daniel 0408792466
cheers!

[Boris]

I am curious about these lubricants.

Looking at thier product list they dont seem to have anything that is SL A3/B4 Spec which seems to be about the mark for the most recent engines. There is another post on that but I cant quite find it at the moment - the specs and reasons therefore not PM Lubricants.

[bob h]

Anyone tried Synforce oils?? I used to use it in my L/C80 series and it improved my fuel economy and also took my oil changes out to 9000ks instead of the usual 5000ks. Just my two cents worth anyway. Oh, also, the RACQ in Maryborough, Qld, also use their oils.

Bob H

[rick130]

Anyone tried Synforce oils?? I used to use it in my L/C80 series and it improved my fuel economy and also took my oil changes out to 9000ks instead of the usual 5000ks. Just my two cents worth anyway. Oh, also, the RACQ in Maryborough, Qld, also use their oils.

Bob H

Basic Fuchs Titan Ultralube 15W-40 mineral oil can easily go 10,000km in TD42T Patrols instead of the recommended 5,000km without breaking into a sweat.
Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic can go 20,000km in the same engine when towing with little problem, both proven through many used oil tests.

Modern oils are good, although some of the newer emission control diesels will be giving them a hard time over the next few years so the oil companies are being forced to quickly improve already seemingly good oils.
Whether the back yard and boutique blenders can keep up remains to be seen, although I'm sure the good blenders will stay ahead of the curve.






<edit> Bugger, I've jumped into another oil thread.........