V6 Petrol D3 Economy ONLY please

[Redback]

I have searched the forum for econmy figures on the Diesel and petrol, i got a good idea as to the diesel figures, now it's the Petrol owners turn.

I'm doing a comparison to see if it's worth the extra cost of the purchase price between the TDV6 and the V6 petrol.

So please only Petrol D3 owners.

Thanks Baz.

[WhiteD3]

Baz,

Have a look at this thread re the pros and cons of the V6 vs the TDV6. Good arguments made for each I think. Just keep in mind the differences between the models and the prices for same.

ie the TDV6 S, TDV6 SE and V6 SE.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-zone/56126-v6-petrol-dropped.html

I have the V6 SE.
Running on 98 octane I get high 15s to low 16s around town, down to 10.6ish on the hwy.

I'll be interested to here your decision.

Cheers.

[Redback]

Baz,

Have a look at this thread re the pros and cons of the V6 vs the TDV6. Good arguments made for each I think. Just keep in mind the differences between the models and the prices for same.

ie the TDV6 S, TDV6 SE and V6 SE.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-zone/56126-v6-petrol-dropped.html

I have the V6 SE.
Running on 98 octane I get high 15s to low 16s around town, down to 10.6ish on the hwy.

I'll be interested to here your decision.

Cheers.

Thanks, i should have mention towing as well, 10.6 is better than my TD5 on the hwy, i get around 15l/100 when towing a 1.3t camper.

Baz.

[paulos00]

Hi Baz

Also this thread has some figures, http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-zone/56786-looking-d3.html As WhiteD3 mentioned to do, I am currently filling the tank with 98 and will post back after a few tanks. (Last tank was Av 52.2Km for 13.7/100 (general driving) which is better than previous Av on standard unleaded).

Before my purchase, the general consensus was if you are doing approx 25 - 30K Km per year then it would take approx 3-4 years to pay back the extra fun tokens on purchase.

[WhiteD3]

Last tank was Av 52.2Km for 13.7/100 (general driving) which is better than previous Av on standard unleaded.

I assume there's a fair amount of hwy in that run? Or at least minimal stops?

[seqfisho]

That TD5 gettin to ya mate:p

Check with Traxide Tim, his is a V6

Can you get the petrol 6 with Air suspension, dont know if I would have a coiler:no2:

[jik22]

Well, we seem to get an average of 16l/100k with the driving all stop/start school runs and the like (I'll check the av speed next time I'm in the car too) and get in the low 12's with all highway driving.

Interesting thing is, we've been trying the three grades of fuel over the past few months, running each for a few tank fills before drawing any conclusion, and I can honestly say we can't really tell the difference either in performance or economy!!

With diesel here currently 30-5c/l higher than petrol, I'm thinking we made the right decision 18 months ago, though that was based on the V6 having the driveaway deal and the TDV6 not.

[drivesafe]

Hi Baz, the last time I did the figures on my wife’s SE V6 it had an average consumption of 14.1 over the 40k done to that time and he D3 has never towed a thing.

BTW, air suspension is standard on the SE.

The one thing I did not factor in to our decision to by a V6 over the TDV6 was the resale value, but as we usually keep vehicle for good few years, we just didn’t worry about it but it is more relevant now although the price difference is even greater now than it was when we bought.

I have heard that there may be some good specials coming up on specific D3s as LRA needs to clear them be for the new model arrives.

[WhiteD3]

nteresting thing is, we've been trying the three grades of fuel over the past few months, running each for a few tank fills before drawing any conclusion, and I can honestly say we can't really tell the difference either in performance or economy!!

I'll do a couple of tanks of 91 and 98 and report back.

[paulos00]

Hi WhiteD3

Yes, its about 3Km to the highway, then 12 on the M1 to the kids kindy. Plus throw in a couple of trips to the workshops and trip to Briso return with good traffic. So when it was going it was moving, not always the case on the coast roads :(

I'd say that we are pretty easy drivers as well.

jik22, the jury is still out for me as well but I have noticed an improvement to date so I will try the 98 for another half a dozen or so tanks. I agree the driveaway deal is what sold me as well, plus the number of Kms you have to do a year to get the pay back on the Diesel.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I don't want to hi-jack this thread in any way.. but if the diesel -> petrol price difference continues at around 20% then this should be factored in. You'd have to take a real guess as to what might happen in the future. The diesel has to be at least 20% lighter on fuel just to show any saving. With better aero and better petrol engine design the gap is reducing but I guess thats what this thread is about.

Re-sale will likely be significantly less on the petrol, but if that diesel - petrol price differentiation continues it may affect that. If the resale difference is equal to the purchase cost difference then you just have the money in the bank in the meantime.

Fuel costs seem to have an emotional response when car buying but the reality is that it is no where near the biggest factor in cost of ownership (unless you're doing big miles).

[Redback]

I'd be interested in towing figures too, i would assume it would be around the same figures as around town city work, if it's close to what i'm getting out of the TD5, that could be a deciding factor in our choice.

I'm surprised how good the economy is, considering the weight of the vehicle.

Glen, no not really, just looking at changing vehicles soon and looking at options.

Looking at dealer and private sales, new and used, the average price difference between the diesel and petrol SE is $20,000, that would take a fair few years to re-coup using fuel as a saving.

the difference is approx $1850 a year in fuel savings petrol over diesel on prices at the moment, which means it would take nearly 11yrs to re-coup the price difference on the purchase price only.

Baz.

[WhiteD3]

Looking at dealer and private sales, new and used, the average price difference between the diesel and petrol SE is $20,000, that would take a fair few years to re-coup using fuel as a saving.

the difference is approx $1850 a year in fuel savings, which means it would take nearly 11yrs to re-coup.

Yes but you need to consider the resale value diff between the two cars. On the other hand spending say 15k less (on the petrol vs diesel) now will be worth say 20k in 5 years time (ie the NPV of the price diff).

[Redback]

Yes but you need to consider the resale value diff between the two cars. On the other hand spending say 15k less (on the petrol vs diesel) now will be worth say 20k in 5 years time (ie the NPV of the price diff).

Yep that was just one thing, i haven't included service cost or re-sale as yet and that was comparing my TD5 if the fuel usage was the same, also how long you keep the car is a factor as well.

The TDV6 uses less fuel than the V6 from what has been posted so far, once i get a few more figures i'll do a complete comparison.

Baz.

[Dingmark Jim]

I've found the computer doesn't give accurate fuel consumption figures, so I calculate actuals. Over a 4000 km run (Melbourne-Perth) my V8 consumed 13.6 litres/100km. That was with a heavy load, but nothing on top or behind and driving a steady 100km-hr on 98 octane. With a 4WD box trailer and the roof-rack fully festooned, I get about 16l/100km. In town (is Perth a city or a town?) it's more like 17l/100. My V8 was a bargain to purchase - about $14k less than the diesel and it consumes about $900/yr more in fuel. Including interest costs, non-tax-deductability >$57k, etc I'd have to drive over 700,000 kms to have the V8 cost as much all-up as the diesel. I'm sure if you tow a lot then the diesel looks better. When the cost of the V8's 19" tyres gets into the equation, it kills the cost savings. :mad:

[WhiteD3]

i haven't included service cost

HUGELY important point. If you work for a large company with a fleet (doesn't matter what brand) hit LR up for the corporate plan which is a set of floor mats and 3 years free servicing. I got it as have others here. Big saving.

[WhiteD3]

I've found the computer doesn't give accurate fuel consumption figures, so I calculate actuals.

I found the trip computer to read roughly 1 l/100k low.

[mobyone]

This debate will go on until the cows come home but here's my 2 cents anyway...

I've had my V6SE now since Nov 05. I live about 10k's from Melbourne city, so am fairly chocked with traffic day in and out. The car get's to pick up kids in the afternoon and also do some country runs for my work. When only running about town I generally get about 420k's per 80litres putting the economy at around 19l/100km's. On the highway I easily get 12-13l/100km fully loaded with some off-road thrown in as well. I only use 98 premium. I've recently changed jobs so now drive against traffic and am now averaging about 16-17l/100km in the city.

Fuel economy changes dramatically depending on where you live and how long you are stuck in traffic. My average speed hovers around 25-30 km/hr thus killing the fuel economy.

I had a series II Disco V8 prior to the D3 V6 and there is still no comparison. My decision to purchase the petrol vs diesel was made when fuel was not so expensive ($1.10 yet the price difference between the two was less (about 10cents/litre), so the arguement is still valid if not strengthened for the diesel, noting that I don't tow anything more than a 6x4 trailer. My calculations suggest that it would take me more than 10yrs to recover the costs of the diesel.

The additional cost of fuel is not a burden, it is simply the small price to pay for driving the most enjoyable vehicle that I have ever had the pleasure to own. :arms:

Good luck

[Redback]

HUGELY important point. If you work for a large company with a fleet (doesn't matter what brand) hit LR up for the corporate plan which is a set of floor mats and 3 years free servicing. I got it as have others here. Big saving.

I have the option to go salary sacrifice if i want, which includes service and fuel costs, and a fleet deal which is 10% off purchace price,(no GST) i'm looking into this ATM.

Baz.

[Desert Traveller]

With the petrol you spend more time at service stations instead of enjoying the drive. :eek:

[Desert Traveller]

Seriously.
My reasons for diesel were
Leased vehicle doing 40k+ kms per year (the bottom line was vey similar) and
Desert Travel (long way between refuels).
If my driving was city and regional and only 25k kms per year, I'd get a petrol.

[meggsie]

HUGELY important point. If you work for a large company with a fleet (doesn't matter what brand) hit LR up for the corporate plan which is a set of floor mats and 3 years free servicing. I got it as have others here. Big saving.
Hi, Might be a dumb question but does the "Corporate Plan' apply to new cars only?
Thanks

[p38arover]

Baz, have you looked at the D3 in WA (48,000km) in the Markets. Also check WA AULROians section

[WhiteD3]

Hi, Might be a dumb question but does the "Corporate Plan' apply to new cars only?
Thanks

I would say yes and maybe demos might fall in there as well.

[sniegy]

I would say yes and maybe demos might fall in there as well.
NEW vehicles ONLY ;)