Book request: Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide (Tom Sheppard)

[spudboy]

OK - Long shot: Does anyone here have a copy of the "Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide" by Tom Sheppard they might want to sell?

It was produced in co-operation with Land Rover, but not sure if it an official LR product.

Seems to be out of print. Don't mind if it is paperback or hardback.

Thanks
David

[Jojo]

Yes, it has been out of print for a while. I have a copy which I am not going to sale whatsoever. I have found my copy on ebay, and when communicating with the seller it turned out he was a Landy nut as well, so I was offered to purchase at a very favourable price :D.
The books are highly sought after and the asking prices at ebay and amazon, etc are quite steep to say the least.
If I were you I'd go for the first edition, i.e the hardback one, as it is the one with coloured pics and a slightly better "feel", higher quality. The second edition has a few updated, mainly in the GPS section, which by now are outdated anyway.

Good luck with your treasure hunt! The book is really worth it.

[hodgo]

Check out this web sight there are 2 used and one new copy for sale , bit exey $200 starting price

Hodgo

Amazon.com: Vehicle-Dependent Expedition Guide: Tom Sheppard: Books (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0953232409/treknologies-20?creative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1)

[dmdigital]

Try AddAll Book Searching and Price Comparison - VDE (http://www3.addall.com/New/submitNew.cgi?query=0953232409&type=ISBN&location=40100&state=&dispCurr=AUD)

[camel_landy]

Excellent book... I've had mind for 10yrs. Mind you, I was quite shocked to see how much they're going for on e-bay!!!

M

[Pedro_The_Swift]

for 1600 bucks it would want to be a good read---:eek:

[streaky]

There was one for sale on UK's Land Rover Addict Forum not too long back. They don't hang around for long though.
A truely great bit of textbook philosophy from the man himself.

[Jojo]

Spuddy, mate!
You might be interested in this:
Overland Video: Adventure and Expedition DVD / Video sales (http://www.overlandvideo.com/overland_books/)

Cheers

[spudboy]

Thanks JoJo - that's good. Much more realistic than one I saw advertised at over $1600!!!!!!!!

I have just emailed them to order a copy. $170 plus postage (not sure how much that will be as yet).

Thanks again

[spudboy]

Reply from the company selling this book:

Hello David,

Thank you for your interest in the VDEG 2.1 book. The cost to ship the book to your address in Australia is as follows:

USPS Priority International: $40 US

USPS Express Mail International: $44 US (guaranteed delivery by 6-26 if it ships tomorrow.)

You may pay with your Visa card by visiting the PayPal website
(www.paypal.com (http://www.paypal.com/)) and making a payment to the account:

service@expeditionswest.com (service@expeditionswest.com)

Just click on the "send money" button and fill out the required information. Payment must be made in U.S. dollars. The total payment amount comes to $210 US (Priority shipping) or $214 (Express shipping).
Overland Video is a division of Expeditions West LLC, so that is the account we use, and it will appear on your payment confirmation. I will be shipping orders tomorrow (Wed.) and again on Monday next week. Again, thanks for your interest, and if there are any other questions I can answer, just let me know.

Best regards,

Chris Marzonie
Overland Video


David Deere wrote:
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> Hello.
>
> I’d like to buy one of your Tom Sheppard books, called Vehicle
> Dependent Expedition Guide for $170.
>
> I am in Australia, so if you could let me know the postage please.
>
> I would be paying for it by VISA.
>
> Thanks
>
> David Deere
>
> Redhill Vineyard
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> BALHANNAH, 5242 SA
>
> (Adelaide)
>
> AUSTRALIA
>

[camel_landy]

Apparently it's in print again...

IIRC - It's £40 here in the UK.

HTH

M

[isuzu110]

You know that some of his stuff is published on the internet

http://www.rgs.org/NR/rdonlyres/7D1FD674-0FE8-4049-8200-2A1D1A356D5D/0/HBELd.pdf

http://www.rgs.org/NR/rdonlyres/7A814B01-5B83-4C27-A1F9-8B051E4294D6/0/HBETve.pdf

Yeah, but the book itself is great. Will stir that feeling for adventure like nothing else.

[spudboy]

Apparently it's in print again...

IIRC - It's £40 here in the UK.

HTH

M
Ooooh - don't tell me that! I just parted with $170 to get it sent out from the States.

Have you got a link or any details of the GBP40 supplier?

[Jojo]

The downloadeble stuff on the 'net is only a fraction of the original book's contents. I haven't heard about another new print apart from the link I sent you earlier.

[camel_landy]

Ooooh - don't tell me that! I just parted with $170 to get it sent out from the States.

Have you got a link or any details of the GBP40 supplier?

From the man himself...

Desert Winds Publications (http://www.desertwinds.co.uk/)

M

[Mick-Kelly]

Same author but it seems to be a different book, mainly focused on the in and outs of the various types of 4WD's. I would be interested in tracking down one of the expedition guides as well. Loks like a good read.

[spudboy]

Yep - definitely a different book. It is also for sale on the US site for US$48.

[Jojo]

Well, if you have a closer look, they also offer the VDEG for £40 plus shipping, which turns out half the price compared with the US supplier. Bugger :cool:.
The four-by-four driving book also comes as "The Land Rover Experience", about the same content, more focus on LR models, published by and available through LR (still, I hope).
Cheers

[spudboy]

Where is the crying smilie..... I've been done!

Better than the Amazon price of US$250, but still, half the price :(

Oh well - you live and learn.

[camel_landy]

Same author but it seems to be a different book, mainly focused on the in and outs of the various types of 4WD's. I would be interested in tracking down one of the expedition guides as well. Loks like a good read.

You can lead a horse to water.... :rolleyes:

[Savanahkelpy]

Yes, it has been out of print for a while. I have a copy which I am not going to sale whatsoever. I have found my copy on ebay, and when communicating with the seller it turned out he was a Landy nut as well, so I was offered to purchase at a very favourable price :D.
The books are highly sought after and the asking prices at ebay and amazon, etc are quite steep to say the least.
If I were you I'd go for the first edition, i.e the hardback one, as it is the one with coloured pics and a slightly better "feel", higher quality. The second edition has a few updated, mainly in the GPS section, which by now are outdated anyway.

Good luck with your treasure hunt! The book is really worth it.


As old as this thread is, i,d only heard about this book about a month ago and decided to see if i could get/track down a copy.
So, the results are,,i,m now own a 1st edition, hard cover, very good condition, plastic covered, ex library edition.:)
The price:eek:,,steep?,,sure,,,well, i certainly didn,t knock back the 10% discount offered, something i didn,t expect.:D
No, i don,t think i,ll be reselling it,,it should occupy most of easter, reading it.
Cheers all.

[KarlB]

Tom Sheppard's 'The Land Rover Experience' was first published in 1993 and had Land Rover Part No. STC.8545.AA. It is my understanding that it has been out of print (in its original form) for many years (there was a second edition). However, Tom's 2007 book 'Four-by-four Driving' is largely an update of the original with many of the same photos and line drawings. You can buy it from Borders and other book stores in Australia for about $80 though you can mail order one from The Nile book store - Australia's largest bookstore, online book shop (http://www.thenile.com.au) for $48.99 plus postage (mine took a little over a week to arrive). 4x4 Driving is almost as good as the original and better in some respects and still very much has a Land Rover bias. With out doubt these books represent the best guide to the actual driving of a 4x4 vehicle I have seen. Should be compulsory reading for any "newbies" and would teach a few things to quite a few old hands (I say without shame).

[EchiDna]

ummm, there is a new edition out only 3 months or so back (edition 2.1), you can order it from this webpage: Expedition & fieldwork publications (http://www.rgs.org/OurWork/Publications/EAC+publications/Expedition+and+Fieldwork+Publications.htm)

or here:
Tom Sheppard - Four by four driving techniques and vehicle expedition driving (http://www.desertwinds.co.uk/expedition_guide.html)

and a chapter or two can be found (legally) from the general expedition handbook for download here: http://www.rgs.org/NR/rdonlyres/7A814B01-5B83-4C27-A1F9-8B051E4294D6/0/HBETve.pdf

[juddy]

This book is still for sale via the people who made it

Expedition Logistic manuals (http://www.rgs.org/OurWork/Publications/EAC+publications/Expedition+Logistic+manuals.htm)

I got mine from them, very good service....

Hope that helps...



OK - Long shot: Does anyone here have a copy of the "Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide" by Tom Sheppard they might want to sell?

It was produced in co-operation with Land Rover, but not sure if it an official LR product.

Seems to be out of print. Don't mind if it is paperback or hardback.

Thanks
David

[p38arover]

ummm, there is a new edition out only 3 months or so back (edition 2.1), you can order it from this webpage: Expedition & fieldwork publications (http://www.rgs.org/OurWork/Publications/EAC+publications/Expedition+and+Fieldwork+Publications.htm)

GBP50 (posted) in the UK, GBP80 to us colonials! 30 quid postage!
:mad:

[KarlB]

Juddy's link to the RGS says that you can mail order it for the eqivalent of AU$113. The Nile book store have advised me they can get a copy for me for AU$92 including postage though delivery is 4-8 weeks.

[juddy]

Juddy's link to the RGS says that you can mail order it for the eqivalent of AU$113. The Nile book store have advised me they can get a copy for me for AU$92 including postage though delivery is 4-8 weeks.

Less the uk VAT may make it a tad cheaper..

[camel_landy]

GBP50 (posted) in the UK, GBP80 to us colonials! 30 quid postage!
:mad:

Serves you right for nicking all of the sunshine... :p

Mind you, it's still a bargain when you compare it against some of the prices they were going for on e-blag.

M

[kaa45]

My eldest son just returned from the USA this morning and brought me a little pressie. "Vehicle-dependent Expedition Guide". Edition 2.1 by Tom Sheppard.:p

What a good boy. All previous transgressions are forgiven :D

It's great when the kids remember their old man.:cool:

[Finn109]

Sorry to dig this out..
I am after this book as well.. Has anyone got an idea where to get one at a normal price?
Cheers,
Finn

[jc109]

Sorry to dig this out..
I am after this book as well.. Has anyone got an idea where to get one at a normal price?
Cheers,
Finn
Tom Sheppard - Four by four driving techniques and vehicle expedition driving (http://www.desertwinds.co.uk/)

or e-mail Amy at the RGS (a.morris@rgs.org). I think I paid about $100 including postage.

[uninformed]

Tom Sheppard - Four by four driving techniques and vehicle expedition driving (http://www.desertwinds.co.uk/)

or e-mail Amy at the RGS (a.morris@rgs.org). I think I paid about $100 including postage.

What about the big SOLD OUT logo over that particular book???

[jc109]

What about the big SOLD OUT logo over that particular book???

My sincere apologies Uninformed! Regardless, I did give two options. Why don't you try the other one??? As it happens I sent an e-mail (which reached the author no less) to enquire into whereabouts I might find a copy. This led me to Amy. I'll tell you what Uninformed, why don't I just get you a copy myself and save you any hassle?

[uninformed]

My sincere apologies Uninformed! Regardless, I did give two options. Why don't you try the other one??? As it happens I sent an e-mail (which reached the author no less) to enquire into whereabouts I might find a copy. This led me to Amy. I'll tell you what Uninformed, why don't I just get you a copy myself and save you any hassle?

take a pill mate, I was actually asking considering that link had been posted by others than just you, so I figured the SOLD OUT must have been old or incorrect info....

If Im interested in getting a copy it will be in hardcover. Thanks for the offer.

Serg

[jc109]

take a pill mate, I was actually asking considering that link had been posted by others than just you, so I figured the SOLD OUT must have been old or incorrect info....

If Im interested in getting a copy it will be in hardcover. Thanks for the offer.

Serg

Good for you Serg.

Next time don't yell a smartarse response at me when I try to help someone and I won't get so ****ed off.

I bought mine six or seven weeks ago by just getting off my backside and asking a couple of questions of the people who know the real answers. I thought others might benefit from it, especially since they asked the question.

I'm happy. I have the book already. Yes it's only paperback. From here on I'll keep my trap shut and let others find their own way shall I?

[uninformed]

??? generally mean a question....

had it been a statement or so called remark I wouldnt have added them....

and whats all this getting off your backside/asking the right people for real answers stuff....its a book, not the holy grail...I went straight to amazon and found copies...it wasnt rocket science

im sure others are greatful... i was simply curious as the same link posted before you was some time ago and things change.....and even somtimes web sites arnt updated....

so I guess asking you for a real answer wasnt the way to go then....

[jc109]

??? generally mean a question....

had it been a statement or so called remark I wouldnt have added them....

and whats all this getting off your backside/asking the right people for real answers stuff....its a book, not the holy grail...I went straight to amazon and found copies...it wasnt rocket science

im sure others are greatful... i was simply curious as the same link posted before you was some time ago and things change.....and even somtimes web sites arnt updated....

so I guess asking you for a real answer wasnt the way to go then....

We should really take this off the forum, but Mate, get off your bloody high horse.

Someone, not you, asked for a point in the right direction. I offered it. It worked for me not so long ago so why not him. You chimed in with your capitals and ??? (one usually suffices). I got my nose out of joint as I was simply trying to help someone.

Good for you for finding them elsewhere. I too managed to get one. Pats on the back all around.

If you want me to provide a real answer then ask me a real question. Think before you hit Submit.

[uninformed]

the sold out was in capitals on the website also...

you made an assumption and ran with it.

sorry my english/grammer isnt perfect...

im done

[Finn109]

Hi guys,
I did try Amy at RGS before I posted my question.

This was her reply:
Dear Finn,

Many thanks for your email enquiry. I am afraid to say that we no longer have any copies available of Tom Shepperd's Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide. The book is now also out of print and so we will not be having any additional stock made available.

My apologies for the inconvenience caused.

Best wishes,

Amy

I am happy for any help, so let me know if there is another source.

Cheers,
Finn

[KarlB]

The attached PDF files of Tom Sheppard's Desert Expedition Manual and his chapter on Expedition Transport from the RGS Expedition Handbook, may be of interest.

Other interesting material downloadable from the RGS website can be found here Free downloads (http://www.rgs.org/OurWork/Publications/EAC+publications/Free+downloads.htm).

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[spudboy]

I can't believe how hard it is to get one of these books - still!

When I was looking (a year ago?) it was out of print, but someone in the US had some copies. Cost me $200 by the time it got to Australia.

The UK site (which is the Sold Out one) seems to be his own site, so gawd knows why they don't just reprint a few more. There seems to be a slow but constant demand for this book :mad:

[juddy]

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how much.......

[Finn109]

Hi again,
I have read those pdfs already. But I 'd like to get a book now :-)
Those prices are.. well let's say crazy :-)

Cheers,
Finn

[inside]

Just to bump this Tom Sheppard - Four by four driving techniques and vehicle expedition driving (http://www.desertwinds.co.uk/expedition_guide.html) order now.

I'm flicking through my copy now and it has a lot of great info, get yours now while you still can.

[Veryan]

I thought I'd let you all know that its back in Print for a few weeks and I've ordered my copy only last week.

You have to go to the publishers website that Juddy recommended before. Costs a lot less than what they are advertised for in Amazon.

[Veryan]

OK, my copy just arrived today. 36 pounds door to door. From Desert Winds Publishing.

J

[camel_landy]

Yeah, Desert Winds is Tom Sheperds publishing company.

He got hacked off that people were stock piling his book and then selling on e-bay for massive profits. That's why he did another print run and that's the reason you can only buy one copy!

You may well find a bit of a delay if he's off travelling around somewhere. ;)

M

[Nick S]

Anyone interested in getting VDEG 2.2 please see below email from Tom this morning. He also sent a second one saying that the postage is 15 not 16.4GBP so tot is 51GBP
Cheers
Nick

Good morning Nick,
Many thanks for your enquiry. You can pay using a sterling bank transfer - I can send the bank details if you choose to go this route. Bank charges can be high to pay this way, however, so it's best to check on this. A sterling cheque if you have a sterling bank account is also a way to pay.


Easiest and quickest is by PayPal - and best from your point of view since Desert Winds picks up the transaction fee! You just log on to your PayPal account and click the 'send money' tab and in the 'To' box put this e-mail address (mail@desertwinds.co.uk). That ensures the payment is made into the Desert Winds Publishing account at PayPal. Assuming you are in UK the amount will be £36 plus £5 postage (£8.40 if in the EU or £16.40 if overseas outside the EU) ... and take it from there. In the 'Note from ..... ' put what the payment is for (VDEG 2.2). You can put anything else you want in the Note section as well.


The book will be sent to your registered PayPal address at the foot of the page by default but if you want it sent somewhere else (eg to your work address) then put it in the 'Note' section.


PayPal then generate an e-mail to inform me here that the payment has been made and their e-mail has all the above info on it too - what you are buying and where it is to be shipped.


Hope that covers it. To be honest I have never done a transaction from your side of the fence but judging from the forms and e-mails I get through the PP system, the above is what happens! Look forward to hearing from you.


Best regards,


Tom Sheppard


Desert Winds Publishing
44 Salusbury Lane
Offley
Hitchin SG5 3EG
United Kingdom


t: (+44) 1462.768.797
f: (+44) 1462.768.554
Website: Tom Sheppard - Four by four driving techniques and vehicle expedition driving (http://www.desertwinds.co.uk)