I hate knocking people, but wouldn't you TRY to spell things right?

[Hymie]

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY - eBay, Passenger Vehicles, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 23-Jun-08 18:18:16 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY_W0QQitemZ320264121713QQihZ011QQcategoryZ 35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Fusion]

Thats jus deploorable ..... go bak to skool ya cloun :D:D:D:angel::wasntme:

[stevo68]

To make it easier for people:

hi for sale is a 1993 disco wwithe the following mods:
*4inc coil lift
*2inc body lift
*arb bull bar
*warn winch
*frount and read spot lights
*costom rear bar
*rear seats remover (come with car)
*cargo barra and water tanks with externel tap
*33 muddies coopers
*rims imported from states much stronger than other eg sunrraise
*boost oil and water temp and volt gages ,turbo timer
*3inc exaust turbo back
*snorkel costom
*costom flears and cut gards
awsom off road wepon will go pritty much anywhere you point it and is still driviabel on road with a powerfull and ecomoical 2.5 4cly disel engin has rego till next year, stero with sub and amp and a few more bits and pices
bad points:
:ac is disconeted at the moment will requier a regass and prob a new reciver dryer
* changing down into 2nd from 3rd is hard due to worn sycnro dosnt effect driving it just rquiers a special touch ha ha inspections are welcom and any questions plz call Evan on 0434891797 thank you for looking


You'd almost say it was taking the **** its that bad,


Regards


Stevo

[ladas]

I struggled to find many sentences that didn't include a mistake :o

That is really poor isn't it............:(

................but being a little generous .............you did understand what he was 'trying' to say :angel:

[stevo68]

Mind you a couple posts below we have this one "Tring to recreate Men and Women electronically"................sorry Rick :D,

Regards

Stevo

[long stroke]

Looks like my spelling:D

[stevo68]

...............but being a little generous .............you did understand what he was 'trying' to say :angel: Yeah by wemoving pwart of me bwain :eek:,

Regards

Stevo

[d@rk51d3]

I wonder if those are wild or farmed barra, that he has in the back with the water tanks.

[mcrover]

I saw that on Ebay, had a look at the pic and thought it was too ugly to read any further.

But then you have to post it and make everyone suffer......great.

Your mates car is it Hymie lol :D

What a shocker, I thought I was bad with the spelling, punctuation and just sheer making sense but that person takes the cake.

Cant chop guards to save them selves either, totally destroyed the whole car, I dont even think LRA flares are big enough to cover that bodge up.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

It's my opinion, that the vendor sends so many SMS messages that they no longer recognise the English language! :nazilock:

Diana

[long stroke]

To me that much lift is to much for 33s don't you think?;)

[B92 8NW]

hi for sale is a 1993 disco wwithe [sic] the following mods:
*4inc [sic] coil lift
*2inc [sic] body lift
*arb bull bar
*warn winch
*frount [sic] and read [sic] spot lights
*costom [sic] rear bar
*rear seats remover (come with car)
*cargo barra [sic] and water tanks with externel [sic] tap
*33 muddies coopers
*rims imported from states much stronger than other eg [sic] sunrraise [sic]
*boost oil and water temp and volt gages [sic] ,turbo timer
*3inc exaust [sic] turbo back
*snorkel [sic] costom [sic]
*costom [sic] flears [sic] and cut gards [sic]
awsom [sic] off road wepon [sic] will go pritty [sic] much anywhere you point it and is still driviabel [sic] on road with a powerfull [sic] and ecomoical [sic] 2.5 4cly [sic] disel [sic] engin [sic] has rego till next year, stero [sic] with sub and amp and a few more bits and pices [sic]
bad points:
:ac is disconeted [sic] at the moment will requier [sic] a regass [sic] and prob a new reciver [sic] dryer [sic]
* changing down into 2nd from 3rd is hard due to worn sycnro [sic] dosnt [sic] effect [sic] driving it just rquiers [sic] a special touch ha ha inspections are welcom [sic] and any questions plz call Evan on [withheld] thank you for looking


Over to the next person:)

[ladas]

Yeah by wemoving pwart of me bwain :eek:,

Regards

Stevo

Oh no - not another part :D:D:D;)

[stevo68]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/58544-i-hate-knocking-people-but-wouldnt-you-try-spell-things-right-post765812.html#post765812)
Yeah by wemoving pwart of me bwain :eek:,

Regards

Stevo

Oh no - not another part :D:D:D;)
Ill pay that :p:D,

Regards

Stevo

[rangieman]

Maybe he,s a typical uneducated LandRover (Disco) owner:wasntme:;):D

[V8Landy]

Maybe he,s a typical uneducated LandRover (Disco) owner:wasntme:;):D

wat uwe meen.

[Slunnie]

There are some inconsistencies in the spelling which makes me wonder if it is laziness, but some people are just not lucky enough to be good writers or spellers. Ron must think that we're all idiot's. Who know's, perhaps English isn't the owners mother tongue and that's as good as it gets for them.

[one_iota]

There are some inconsistencies in the spelling which makes me wonder if it is laziness, but some people are just not lucky enough to be good writers or spellers. Ron must think that we're all idiot's. Who know's, perhaps English isn't the owners mother tongue and that's as good as it gets for them.

;) Now Slunnie we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally iliterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

[RonMcGr]

Very common on Evil Bay.
The spelling and grammar from some must influence the buyer!

Some ads have been so bad, that I doubt the seller really know what he is selling!

[barney]

;) Now Slunny we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally iliterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

i think someone else slipped though the education net as well.
i believe gotten is not part of the english language, but comes from a strange "made up" language that is known as "American". they don't seem to grasp the idea that sometimes one word can be used in many different ways without having to alter it.
was that disco from Lokka?

[Reads90]

Christ i thought i was bad at spelling. :)

[d@rk51d3]

;) Now Slunny we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally iliterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

i think someone else slipped though the education net as well.
i believe gotten is not part of the english language, but comes from a strange "made up" language that is known as "American". they don't seem to grasp the idea that sometimes one word can be used in many different ways without having to alter it.
was that disco from Lokka?



Hmmm, shouldn't there be some more capitals in there? :D

[one_iota]

;) Now Slunny we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally illiterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

i think someone else slipped though the education net as well.
i believe gotten is not part of the English language, but comes from a strange "made up" language that is known as "American". they don't seem to grasp the idea that sometimes one word can be used in many different ways without having to alter it.
was that disco from Lokka?


:p;):)

I stand corrected...I wonder how he has managed to progress in life. I think I prefer "gotten on"..its colloquial brevity is efficient and conveys a clear meaning. Such has the English language evolved.

[Slunnie]

;) Now Slunnie we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally iliterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

Thanks Barney! :D

Some slip through the net, some just cant develop the skill and others are still learning... probably everybody is still learning in reality especially with the current thought that English is a live medium. But brave is the word for kids like that, though it is a situation that nobody wants (generally) and we all try to avoid. As you so rightly say though, there is a well documented theory of multiple intelligences and some people are stronger or weaker at Language irrespective of how "smart" they are in other areas.

I must be in a warm and inclusive mood today. :D

[Slunnie]

[quote=barney;765871]


:p;):)

I stand corrected...I wonder how he has managed to progress in life. I think I prefer "gotten on"..its colloquial brevity is efficient and conveys a clear meaning. Such has the English language evolved.
I thought the proper word was "gettin"

eg, the gits gettin gawn. :D

[one_iota]

[quote=one_iota;765885]
I thought the proper word was "gettin"

eg, the gits gettin gawn. :D

:D I hope he's gawn orf and doin good.

[numpty]

Christ i thought i was bad at spelling. :)

You are!!!!:D:D:D

[p38arover]

;) Now Slunnie we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

Or even the occasional gaffe, Mahn. :D

No, Slunnie, I don't think anyone who can't spell is an idiot. I can't weld but that doesn't make me an idiot (maybe I will be able to weld when my eyes are fixed!). Everyone has their strengths.

[one_iota]

Or even the occasional gaffe, Mahn. :D

No, Slunnie, I don't think anyone who can't spell is an idiot. I can't weld but that doesn't make me an idiot (maybe I will be able to weld when my eyes are fixed!). Everyone has their strengths.

Ron you missed "iliterate".... should be spelt "illiterate"

My advice: remove the welding goggles. Hope you are well

:p:);)

[p38arover]

Ron you missed "iliterate".... should be spelt "illiterate"

My advice: remove the welding goggles. Hope you are well

:p:);)

Yep, I did! The i, the l, and the i all blended together. I read with my left eye and it's the one that is stuffed.

[Hymie]

Yeah, but would you buy a used car from this man?

[one_iota]

Yeah, but would you buy a used car from this man?

Or an unused one...all car salesmen should hence forth pass a basic literacy test.

I hope these standards don't apply to working families :p ;)

[scarry]

:confused:
Yeah, but would you buy a used car from this man?

might give it a go...he might not notice a couple of zero's missing on the cheque:eek:;)

or is it check:confused:

[Disco_owner]

Maybe he,s a typical uneducated LandRover (Disco) owner:wasntme:;):D

I have yu know that I'm youniversity edumicated.:mad:







:D

[GrahamH]

The EU have a solution to the problems presented by a difficult language like "English" which is the result of the bastardisation of one language by many others over a long period due to the repeated invasion of the mother country. The following plan should solve most spelling difficulties...
Five year phase-in plan for "EuroEnglish"The European Commission have just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase in plan that would be known as EuroEnglish".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump for joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

By the 4th year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz year, ve vil hav a realy sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand each ozer

ZE DREAM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!

[simonr23]

love it.

[JDNSW]

;) Now Slunny we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally iliterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

i think someone else slipped though the education net as well.
i believe gotten is not part of the english language, but comes from a strange "made up" language that is known as "American". they don't seem to grasp the idea that sometimes one word can be used in many different ways without having to alter it.
was that disco from Lokka?

"Gotten" is not a made up word. It dates from Old English but according to SOED is now restricted to dialect and North American usage. Many "American" words are in fact archaic English words that dropped out of use in Standard English by the end of the eighteenth century.

John

[Redback]

Besides all the spelin mistooks, isn't that Godzilla, owned by one of Greylandys mates.

Baz.

[weeds]

i have not read all of the posts so i thought i would give him the benifit of the doubt and a bit of support

i failed english at school but have managed to get through an apprenticeship and land a not so bad job managing a team of tradies

i quite often get picked up for spelling and grammer and now that i am going to uni i am under the pump even more so with academic writing so my wife kindly proof reads everything for me

this guy could well be at the limits of his ability but thinks he has done a good job, there are people out there with way worse learning ability than myself and struggle everyday with it.......

re: would i buy a car from him, well spelling has nothing to do with it, he has pointed out issues the car which is what a buying would be looking for

there is an old saying would........never judge a book by its cover..

anyway how did i go........

[stevo68]

i have not read all of the posts so i thought i would give him the benifit of the doubt and a bit of support

i failed english at school but have managed to get through an apprenticeship and land a not so bad job managing a team of tradies

i quite often get picked up for spelling and grammer and now that i am going to uni i am under the pump even more so with academic writing so my wife kindly proof reads everything for me

this guy could well be at the limits of his ability but thinks he has done a good job, there are people out there with way worse learning ability than myself and struggle everyday with it.......

re: would i buy a car from him, well spelling has nothing to do with it, he has pointed out issues the car which is what a buying would be looking for

there is an old saying would........never judge a book by its cover..

anyway how did i go........ Hmm, are you and this bloke brothers :p, anyway I think this bloke is more a case of laziness or he spends to much time on 4WD Action as that ad would be a pretty good comparison to what you read over there........not so much if hardly ever over here,

Regards

Stevo

[zulu Delta 534]

A couple of years back I received a letter from a 'Temporary Staffing Agency' (who will remain anonymous,) consisting of around 130 words or so, pointing out many benefits my business could reap from employing some of the vast 'office skilled' personnel they had on their books on a "when needed" basis.
With a red texta pen, I corrected in excess of 75 spelling and grammatical errors and returned the letter to the sender with a note suggesting that perhaps their office could benefit from making use of some of my coach drivers skills.
Alas, I got no response from them.
At least this bloke with the ad. is only trying to sell a car!
Regards
Glen

[p38arover]

:D

Some years back I received some software we were trialling for tracking fishing vessels.

I read the user manual, used a highlighter on nearly every page of the 200+ page user manual. It had lots of spelling, lots of grammatical, and lots of factual errors. I made lots of suggestions, rewrote sections, and sent it back

The company rang me up to thank me!

[Fusion]

Hi Ron , Good to see you back on the site :BigThumb: . I have bought a few things lately and have noticed a lot of the manuals have spelling mistakes . what is it .... are they not using spell check or just being lazy these days ?

[numpty]

Hmm, are you and this bloke brothers :p, anyway I think this bloke is more a case of laziness or he spends to much time on 4WD Action as that ad would be a pretty good comparison to what you read over there........not so much if hardly ever over here,

Regards

Stevo

Too :D:D

[B92 8NW]

Too :D:D

too - no capitals.:o

[Bushwanderer]

;) Now Slunny we know that you are not an idiot, ignorant or illiterate nor do we need to correct you. We are all guilty of the occasional gaff but it doesn't interfere with communication.

The Ebay writer has managed to communicate to us with effort on our part.

Long ago I met a kid at a school camp who asked me to write his letter home to his family...he was literally iliterate. He was intelligent but had slipped through the education net...I wonder how he has gotten on in life. I admired his bravery.

i think someone else slipped though the education net as well.
i believe gotten is not part of the english language, but comes from a strange "made up" language that is known as "American". they don't seem to grasp the idea that sometimes one word can be used in many different ways without having to alter it.
was that disco from Lokka?

Well - that's a new one on me.;)

I have just looked at my "Concise Oxford Dictionary" &, as you say, it shows "gotten" as US.

I've used "gotten" from when I learned to speak proper. :D

Well bugger me.:eek:

[p38arover]

I agree with JDNSW, "gotten" is a leftover from the changes to English of old. I suspect a lot of it came about owing to the separation (in time and distance) of the "USA" from Britain and Noah Webster's dictionary which was ubiquitous in US schools.

Another thing that has remained is the US Gallon. It's (I understand) the same as the gallon the white settlers from the Mayflower, etc. took with them. The Imperial gallon has changed, the US gallon has not. The Imperial gallon was changed to be the volume of 10lbs of water at a certain temp.

[stevo68]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/58544-i-hate-knocking-people-but-wouldnt-you-try-spell-things-right-post766111.html#post766111)
Hmm, are you and this bloke brothers :p, anyway I think this bloke is more a case of laziness or he spends to much time on 4WD Action as that ad would be a pretty good comparison to what you read over there........not so much if hardly ever over here,

Regards

Stevo

Too :D:D
Juuuussssttttt checking to see who is awake :angel: :p,

Regards

Stevo

[harry]

Hmm, are you and this bloke brothers :p, anyway 'I think this bloke is more a case of laziness' or he spends to much time on 4WD Action as that ad would be a pretty good comparison to what you read over there........not so much if hardly ever over here,

Regards

Stevo
as they said also,
not 'to' but 'too',
and grammar in the underlined part [of the]sentence is less than expected also.
perhaps: 'i think this bloke is lazy' etc.
oh, don't bother to correct me about capitals, i don't do them.
i type here for fun.
sorry stevo, just being picky,























and fishing.

[JDNSW]

I agree with JDNSW, "gotten" is a leftover from the changes to English of old. I suspect a lot of it came about owing to the separation (in time and distance) of the "USA" from Britain and Noah Webster's dictionary which was ubiquitous in US schools.

Another thing that has remained is the US Gallon. It's (I understand) the same as the gallon the white settlers from the Mayflower, etc. took with them. The Imperial gallon has changed, the US gallon has not. The Imperial gallon was changed to be the volume of 10lbs of water at a certain temp.


In Britain (and America) there were formerly a variety of different gallons for different commodities (Wikipedia lists 16 different gallons). In the 1824 Britain standardised on the "Ale" gallon for all purposes, modified slightly to be exactly ten pounds of water, a response to metrication on the continent.

The U.S., perhaps to be different, or perhaps reflecting different tastes in beverages, standardised (much later) on the "wine" gallon (dating from Queen Anne, but that was formalising a measure that goes back to the middle ages) for most purposes, although the "corn" gallon, a little smaller than an Imperial gallon, remained in use for dry commodities until quite recently.

John

[zen300]

wod er youze torcking a- bourt?, wods rong wid thu spelung in thu edvartizmint, enewai? youz shood orl juzzed chyl owt, hav enudda glars ov wyne end reelecks a lott moor, tatz mey upinyun.:wasntme:

[WhiteD3]

I'll admit I gave up reading at page 5, but has anyone considered the seller is an AULRO member and is now looking for a "Dr Nischke" in the NT phone book to end his/her (let's not be sexist) embarrassment?

I'm a fan of good spelling but let's give the guy/girl a break:).

[DI5CO]

Getting off the subject of spelling, at least if he has a flat tyre near a railway track, he can get back home!!!!
:Rolling:

[one_iota]

Sometimes grammar rebels have a cause - youse know what I mean? - Opinion (http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/sometimes-grammar-rebels-have-a-cause/2008/06/20/1213770920983.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1)

[p38arover]

Sometimes grammar rebels have a cause - youse know what I mean? - Opinion (http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/sometimes-grammar-rebels-have-a-cause/2008/06/20/1213770920983.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1)

I note that in the sentence:


....... who ignore grammar because it's value is overrated

she has inadvertently inserted an apostrophe. :D

[one_iota]

I note that in the sentence:



she has inadvertently inserted an apostrophe. :D

I reckon there was nothing inadvertent about that apostrophe...it was bait.:p

Good to see the eyeses are functioning Ron.:)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I note that in the sentence:



she has inadvertently inserted an apostrophe. :D


I reckon there was nothing inadvertent about that apostrophe...it was bait.:p

Good to see the eyeses are functioning Ron.:)



I'm also glad to SEE rons still functioning,,,:cool:


and I'm also gunna leave EYESES well alone!!:p:p

[p38arover]

I'm also glad to SEE rons still functioning,,,:cool:


and I'm also gunna leave EYESES well alone!!:p:p

Where's the apostrophe? :D

[rick130]

Mind you a couple posts below we have this one "Tring to recreate Men and Women electronically"................sorry Rick :D,

Regards

Stevo



Ba$tard ! :p

[Pedro_The_Swift]

ROLMAO:Rolling:

[HAK]

Wow 6 pages of a posts of some poor dudes misspelling I don’t know who to fill sorry for the dude or you lot who don’t have a life :p ;);) heheheheheh

[p38arover]

Wow 6 pages of a posts of some poor dudes misspelling I don’t know who to fill sorry for the dude or you lot who don’t have a life :p ;);) heheheheheh

Fill? :p

Actually, I'm also annoyed by the use of the figures 1, 2, and 4 instead of one, to or too, and four. I suspect it's a consequence of too much texting!

See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/58633-cheap-chainsaw.html

953 had me confused for a few secs with this:


.... really dont expect this 1,2 last like the quality brands ....

[Panda]

Fill? :p

Actually, I'm also annoyed by the use of the figures 1, 2, and 4 instead of one, to or too, and four. I suspect it's a consequence of too much texting!

See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/58633-cheap-chainsaw.html

953 had me confused for a few secs with this:

You're not a compulsive obsessive personality by any chance Ron?:D

[rick130]

Fill? :p

Actually, I'm also annoyed by the use of the figures 1, 2, and 4 instead of one, to or too, and four. I suspect it's a consequence of too much texting!

See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/58633-cheap-chainsaw.html

953 had me confused for a few secs with this:

You'd love another board I'm a mod on Ron, text speak is banned.
The admin/owner was in the publishing game, and any of the kids who use SMS talk are politely asked to refrain.

Her reasoning is brilliant, as those that are sight impaired and use 'readers' to surf the net can't work out what is being said.

[p38arover]

Her reasoning is brilliant, as those that are sight impaired and use 'readers' to surf the net can't work out what is being said.

Rick, that is an excellent point which I had never considered. After my eye op., I actually thought about installing a reader on my laptop so I could "read" the AULRO threads.

[p38arover]

You're not a compulsive obsessive personality by any chance Ron?:D

No, but I believe in clarity. The use of figures (or ampersands - &) doesn't make text clearer and therefore easier to read. The use of figures actually slows reading and comprehension.

Even in text, figures are only used when appropriate. There are styles commonly adopted in publishing. For example, one would write the words for 1 to 10 but, above that, one uses the numbers, e.g., one million but 20 million.

Over the years, when I've been editor of various club mags, I had to use global search and replace on many submissions as the writer(s) persisted in using "&" instead of "and".

It is not clearer and the ampersand should only be used in certain circumstances. See All about ampersands (http://www.scribe.com.au/tip-w002.html)

[stevo68]

Wow 6 pages of a posts of some poor dudes misspelling I don’t know who to fill sorry for the dude or you lot who don’t have a life :p ;);) heheheheheh No, what I feel it show's is how important spelling is by the majority of people. It's not the odd error here and there, we are all guilty of that. I have no sympathy and if you are that stupid to put up an advertisement that quite clearly targets you as an idiot, where does the responsibility lie.

Bottom line it is generally not considered acceptable. One can come up with 100 different excuses....it's not important for what I do...or the poor bugger give him a break....English is one of the harder languages to learn ( yeah for sure if you are from another country)... etc etc. That might wash if you are 10 yrs old, not a fully grown adult. I think it is JDNSW on here who in the past has said he is dyslexic but took the time and effort to learn to spell and use grammar correctly. Also I am talking about the average person, 2 arms, 2 legs, fully functioning brain etc.

Clearly threads like this and others that have arisen over the years, would seem to dictate how important spelling and grammar is to the average person. The downside to poor spelling and grammar ( rightly or wrongly, correctly or incorrectly) is that by your peers you will be seen in a poor light,

Regards

Stevo

[rovercare]

No, what I feel it show's is how important spelling is by the majority of people. It's not the odd error here and there, we are all guilty of that. I have no sympathy and if you are that stupid to put up an advertisement that quite clearly targets you as an idiot, where does the responsibility lie.

Bottom line it is generally not considered acceptable. One can come up with 100 different excuses....it's not important for what I do...or the poor bugger give him a break....English is one of the harder languages to learn ( yeah for sure if you are from another country)... etc etc. That might wash if you are 10 yrs old, not a fully grown adult. I think it is JDNSW on here who in the past has said he is dyslexic but took the time and effort to learn to spell and use grammar correctly. Also I am talking about the average person, 2 arms, 2 legs, fully functioning brain etc.

Clearly threads like this and others that have arisen over the years, would seem to dictate how important spelling and grammar is to the average person. The downside to poor spelling and grammar ( rightly or wrongly, correctly or incorrectly) is that by your peers you will be seen in a poor light,

Regards

Stevo

One would suggest that misinformation, would be worse than incorrect spelling;)



It was George 130

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/621393-post100.html

[stevo68]

One would suggest that misinformation, would be worse than incorrect spelling;)



It was George 130

To Spell or not to Spell :-) (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/621393-post100.html) Ah, but note I did say "I think" which left it open to correction :p, the point is still the same. If I had said I definately thought it was JDNSW, then that is different.

Regards

Stevo

[rovercare]

Ah, but note I did say "I think" which left it open to correction :p, the point is still the same. If I had said I definately thought it was JDNSW, then that is different.

Regards

Stevo

Nope, your useing "I think" as merely a disclaimer:D

As in, If I say "I think" I don't have to pull up from the memory bank/do some research/take a hit of acid and give you factual information, I can just bung something in there

Maybe old mate, "thought" he'd spelt the words correctly:p

[Slunnie]

I treat "I think" as meaning "my opinion" if its a matter where there may be more than one perspective on something, such as "I think I'm the epitome of a Land Rover owner", or as a sign that I'm not definate about something which may have a specific answer, like "I think the TD5 puts out about twice the power of a Tdi".

[numpty]

Ah, but note I did say "I think" which left it open to correction :p, the point is still the same. If I had said I definately thought it was JDNSW, then that is different.

Regards

Stevo


definitely :angel:

[vnx205]

..... ... .... ... The downside to poor spelling and grammar ( rightly or wrongly, correctly or incorrectly) is that by your peers you will be seen in a poor light,

Regards

Stevo

Stevo, you probably would have been amused by an incident in the first episode of "The Gil Mayo Mysteries" about a week ago. I think you probably would have nodded in agreement.

Gil has a bit of a thing about grammar, punctuation and usage,
An establishment where he was investigating a death had a big sign on the wall saying, "No special relationship's".
When he pointed this out the to proprietor, the proprietor made some sort of comment about punctuation police.
I liked Gil's reply. He just said something like, "OK, but you're the one that it makes look stupid."

I don't know whether I should be pleased or concerned that I spotted the sign before Gil commented on it.:p

[rovercare]

definitely :angel:


DEFINITELY / DEFINATELY (http://www.squidoo.com/definitely)

Definitely Not Definately Matt Luce Blog Archive (http://mattluce.com/blog/2008/01/31/definitely-not-definately/)

Same story, whingeing about menial things:p


Not you Numpty, more for Stevo:angel:

Swings and roundabouts

[Panda]

No, but I believe in clarity. The use of figures (or ampersands - &) doesn't make text clearer and therefore easier to read. The use of figures actually slows reading and comprehension.

Even in text, figures are only used when appropriate. There are styles commonly adopted in publishing. For example, one would write the words for 1 to 10 but, above that, one uses the numbers, e.g., one million but 20 million.

Over the years, when I've been editor of various club mags, I had to use global search and replace on many submissions as the writer(s) persisted in using "&" instead of "and".

It is not clearer and the ampersand should only be used in certain circumstances. See All about ampersands (http://www.scribe.com.au/tip-w002.html)

Yes, I agree Ron. However, I guess I'm just lazy. When posting I usually use "&" instead of "and", as well as figures "1, 2, 3", etc, simply because it's quicker for me to type.

I can understand as an editor of club magazines it would get rather annoying!

[p38arover]

Everyone here knows how I dislike poor spelling but I will never refer to anyone who can't spell as stupid.

You will also know that I know I have strengths and weaknesses. There are many things I can't do that bad spellers may be able to do.

However, if you are applying for a job and you know you can't spell, get someone else to proof read it. (Yes, I know I should have used "one", not "you".) I've done that for many of my staff over the years.

As Edd (George130) pointed out, a dictionary is not much use for a bad speller. If one can't spell at all, how does one look up a word? Help is at hand. One can buy bad speller's dictionaries which, I assume, spell words incorrectly and shows the correct spelling. There are a number available. For example: Webster's Bad Spellers Dictionary Review - Eclectic Homeschool Online (http://www.eclectichomeschool.org/reviews/individual_review2.asp'revid=1201)

The on line Webster dictionary is good in that if you can't spell, it will offer suggestions. Try it: Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online (http://www.merriam-webster.com/)

[dmdigital]

Reading through all this and Ron's comments about clarity of text got me thinking:

The perfect way to cut down on web traffic and speed up the forum would be for all posts to be done strictly in an SMS shorthand style :twisted:

The only two issues I can think of are:
1. It might send poor Ron over the edge.
2. I haven't a clue when it comes to SMS abbreviations, I have to spell everything out when I send someone a message.

[dmdigital]

As Edd (George130) pointed out, a dictionary is not much use for a bad speller. If one can't spell at all, how does one look up a word? Help is at hand. One can buy bad speller's dictionaries which, I assume, spell words incorrectly and shows the correct spelling. There are a number available. For example: Webster's Bad Spellers Dictionary Review - Eclectic Homeschool Online (http://www.eclectichomeschool.org/reviews/individual_review2.asp'revid=1201)

The on line Webster dictionary is good in that if you can't spell, it will offer suggestions. Try it: Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online (http://www.merriam-webster.com/)

There's also just plain old Google. Type in a word and it will prompt with Did you mean ...

Also instead of searching type define: followed by the word. e.g. define:land rover (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define:land%20rover), to get definitions of words and phrases.

[stevo68]

Quote:
Originally Posted by numpty https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/58544-i-hate-knocking-people-but-wouldnt-you-try-spell-things-right-post767076.html#post767076)
definitely :angel:


DEFINITELY / DEFINATELY (http://www.squidoo.com/definitely)

Definitely Not Definately Matt Luce Blog Archive (http://mattluce.com/blog/2008/01/31/definitely-not-definately/)

Same story, whingeing about menial things:p


Not you Numpty, more for Stevo:angel:

Swings and roundabouts Yeah, yeah, I know some of you like to hunt down any tiny thing to dispel the opinions of some of us louder ones:p. As I stated earlier there is a vast difference between the odd error here and there and the example posted. I wasn't born yesterday and know exactly the mindset of....as example the above 2 posts....and that is cool. Throw yourself out there and be a bit louder, you will always find someone who will find a way to detract from what you are saying.......not like I'm not used to it :D.

Though I have learnt something, I have been spelling definitely as definately for as long as I can remember, maybe my spell check changes it straight away as it just did when I checked as opposed to highlighting it with red underneath ( ie word).


Stevo, you probably would have been amused by an incident in the first episode of "The Gil Mayo Mysteries" about a week ago. I think you probably would have nodded in agreement.

Gil has a bit of a thing about grammar, punctuation and usage,
An establishment where he was investigating a death had a big sign on the wall saying, "No special relationship's".
When he pointed this out the to proprietor, the proprietor made some sort of comment about punctuation police.
I liked Gil's reply. He just said something like, "OK, but you're the one that it makes look stupid."

I don't know whether I should be pleased or concerned that I spotted the sign before Gil commented on it.:p I think it is a fact of life, read a menu, if there is an error, people will comment on it. I feel people have an expectation at times of others and not so much themselves. As stated again, people will make errors from time to time, that's human nature...as has been pointed out to me :). At the end of the day, ultimately don't really care, I just tend to scan past ( if considering threads here or another site) illiterate jumblings. That's just me, horses for courses,

Regards

Stevo

[B92 8NW]

80 replies later, and I'm not seeing the link between spelling and knocking someone.

[p38arover]

Yes, I agree Ron. However, I guess I'm just lazy. When posting I usually use "&" instead of "and", as well as figures "1, 2, 3", etc, simply because it's quicker for me to type.


Hmm, quicker to type??

The ampersand requires two keystrokes, one of them on a key that is unfamiliar vs. three keystrokes on familiar keys that many of you can hit without even looking. Not a lot time saving there. Ditto for smaller numbers, e.g., one, two, etc.

But to use 2 instead of "to" or 4 instead of "four" is terrible. I accept that 2-way and 4WD but not in something like "it is 2 bad that he stood 4 president", nor the instance I quoted earlier of "1,2"

Next we'll have ""it is 2 bad that he stood 4 president" written as ""it is 2 bad that he s2d 4 president".

[vnx205]

Everyone here knows how I dislike poor spelling but I will never refer to anyone who can't spell as stupid.

You will also know that I know I have strengths and weaknesses. There are many things I can't do that bad spellers may be able to do.

However, if you are applying for a job and you know you can't spell, get someone else to proof read it. (Yes, I know I should have used "one", not "you".) I've done that for many of my staff over the years.

As Edd (George130) pointed out, a dictionary is not much use for a bad speller. If one can't spell at all, how does one look up a word? Help is at hand. One can buy bad speller's dictionaries which, I assume, spell words incorrectly and shows the correct spelling. There are a number available. For example: Webster's Bad Spellers Dictionary Review - Eclectic Homeschool Online (http://www.eclectichomeschool.org/reviews/individual_review2.asp'revid=1201)

The on line Webster dictionary is good in that if you can't spell, it will offer suggestions. Try it: Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online (http://www.merriam-webster.com/)

I didn't think anyone apart from the Queen and Princess Anne used "one" these days.:p

Actually I always think that "one" instead of "you" sounds so pretentious.

What does irritate me (when I am in the mood to be easily irritated) is when people say "you" when it would be much more sensible to say "I".
I am referring to instances where someone is describing their own reaction or feelings and they speak as if it is generally true or as if it applies to you.

Surely an athlete who has just been asked how they feel as they wait for the starter's gun should say something like, "I am so focussed on the race that there is no time for anything else, so I don't get nervous", rather than, "You are so focussed on the race that there is no time for anything else, so you don't get nervous."

Of course that is not always true. In fact in a very large number of cases the word will be found without too much trouble.

It certainly would not be true in the case of the word that cropped up in this thread. Anyone looking for "definately" in the dictionary would have to be blind not to spot "definitely". In my two volume World Book Dictionary, it is only about six entries or 50mm further down the page and a couple of the entries in between are "definite" and "definite article".

I suspect that the comment about needing to be able to spell to use a dictionary is one of those glib throw away lines that sounds good and is heard so often that people have begun to believe it is true.

It just occurred to me that coloured print is often harder to read, especially for people with problems with their eyesight. Sorry Ron, but I thought the color coded replies would make it more obvious what I was responding to.

[vnx205]

... ... ... .. ... ... ..

But to use 2 instead of "to" or 4 instead of "four" is terrible. I accept that 2-way and 4WD but not in something like "it is 2 bad that he stood 4 president", nor the instance I quoted earlier of "1,2"

Next we'll have ""it is 2 bad that he stood 4 president" written as ""it is 2 bad that he s2d 4 president".
Given the current concerns about inflation, the use of those numbers also raised the spectre of Victor Borge's 'Inflationary language".
For the under 50 year olds, he did a comedy routine where he said that since everything else was subject to inflation, the language should be too, so all words that contained numbers should have one added to that number.
So he told a story which began "Twice upon a time there was a loo-eleven-ant in the United States Air Fives named Bob. and included someone describing someone as a "three faced triple crosser" and another character trying to calm things down asked, "Any two for eleveniss?"
Trust me it sounded better when Victor Borge said it than when I write it.

So we could be faced with people writing, "it is 3 bad that he stood 5 president" or even "it is 3 bad that he s3d 5 president".:p

[Panda]

Hmm, quicker to type??

The ampersand requires two keystrokes, one of them on a key that is unfamiliar vs. three keystrokes on familiar keys that many of you can hit without even looking. Not a lot time saving there. Ditto for smaller numbers, e.g., one, two, etc.

But to use 2 instead of "to" or 4 instead of "four" is terrible. I accept that 2-way and 4WD but not in something like "it is 2 bad that he stood 4 president", nor the instance I quoted earlier of "1,2"

Next we'll have ""it is 2 bad that he stood 4 president" written as ""it is 2 bad that he s2d 4 president".


Yes, but for me Ron, it's quicker, as I can touch type very quickly. So in the case of using "&" or "and", using two keystrokes, (notice I spelt it in full - just for you), rather than one, is definitely quicker for me. The same with numbers. It's much quicker to type "1, 2, 3, etc" than "one, two, three, etc". Most especially with numbers, as for example, "3" is only one keystroke, whereas "three" is 5 keystrokes.

I do however agree, I would never use "2" instead of "to", as it doesn't make sense!

[B92 8NW]

It is not a smart solution to replace words and letters with numbers and symbols to speed up typing.

Genuine smart people use Dvorak keyboards:angel:

[Panda]

It is not a smart solution to replace words and letters with numbers and symbols to speed up typing.

Genuine smart people use Dvorak keyboards:angel:


Why is it not a smart solution to replace words & letters with numbers & symbols to speed up typing, if it speeds up typing?

When I learnt to type, Dvorak keyboards were not an option. It is my understanding that it has only really been in the last few years that the Dvorak keyboard configuration has gained recognition in the wider community, albeit in a select sector, mostly computer programmers.

As it is more readily available now, due to the computer era, I think it is great for people to be able to train on the Dvorak system. However, it would be impractical for me to take sufficient time off work to retrain on a new system, as speed & consistency is paramount in my position.

[HAK]

Fill? :p


:


Dooh :o:D:D:D:D

[vnx205]

Why is it not a smart solution to replace words & letters with numbers & symbols to speed up typing, if it speeds up typing?

When I learnt to type, Dvorak keyboards were not an option. It is my understanding that it has only really been in the last few years that the Dvorak keyboard configuration has gained recognition in the wider community, albeit in a select sector, mostly computer programmers.

As it is more readily available now, due to the computer era, I think it is great for people to be able to train on the Dvorak system. However, it would be impractical for me to take sufficient time off work to retrain on a new system, as speed & consistency is paramount in my position.

I know you don't advocate numerals for words (like "Knock b4 you enter") but the answer to your first question is; because even though it speeds up typing, it slows down comprehension. That really only applies to those other uses of numerals that you correctly described as not making sense.

So you must have learned to type before the 1920s or 30s because that is when August Dvorak developed his keyboard. :p
I'm only joking. You're right, it was only a very small group that had even heard of it until recently. Even now most people would not know what it was.

The last point you make is quite right too. The reason we are stuck with the inefficiencies of the QWERTY keyboard is because that is what most people have learned and the cost of changing is enormous.

[Panda]

I know you don't advocate numerals for words (like "Knock b4 you enter") but the answer to your first question is; because even though it speeds up typing, it slows down comprehension. That really only applies to those other uses of numerals that you correctly described as not making sense.

So you must have learned to type before the 1920s or 30s because that is when August Dvorak developed his keyboard. :p
I'm only joking. You're right, it was only a very small group that had even heard of it until recently. Even now most people would not know what it was.

The last point you make is quite right too. The reason we are stuck with the inefficiencies of the QWERTY keyboard is because that is what most people have learned and the cost of changing is enormous.

Very true. I think that was the main reason it was never adopted. It was particularly difficult owing to the fact that the system was developed during the depression. The cost of new typewriters (which in those days, were made to last), was too overwhelming. Despite his marketing, unfortunately, it just never took off.

[JDNSW]

Getting a bit off topic, but the Qwerty keyboard is one of many innovations that seemed like a good idea at the time. It was deliberately designed to slow down typists so as to avoid jammed mechanism in early typewriters.

Like many 'standards' where the reason for them no longer applies, replacement of the Qwerty keyboard will be very difficult, simply because there are too many people that are more or less capable of using it. And very few of these are likely to want to change, even if they know there is a better system, because the process of change is too hard compared to the expected improvement. Same as with Windows, for example.

John

[werdan]

Reading through all this and Ron's comments about clarity of text got me thinking:

The perfect way to cut down on web traffic and speed up the forum would be for all posts to be done strictly in an SMS shorthand style :twisted:


It used to be, before spam and streaming video.

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
-- James D. Nicoll

[vnx205]

Very true. I think that was the main reason it was never adopted. It was particularly difficult owing to the fact that the system was developed during the depression. The cost of new typewriters (which in those days, were made to last), was too overwhelming. Despite his marketing, unfortunately, it just never took off.
That is an extra reason that I hadn't thought about.

I temporarily forgot that there was a time when things were made to last.:p

Some very old tripewriters are still working perfectly.

[p38arover]

I suspect that the comment about needing to be able to spell to use a dictionary is one of those glib throw away lines that sounds good and is heard so often that people have begun to believe it is true.

Not necessarily true. One of our members yesterday used the word "redic" in another thread. It was, I assume, an abbreviation (why is the word abbreviation so long when it refers to a shortened form of a word? :D) for "ridiculous". Had he looked up a dictionary, he wouldn't have found it even if he had typed a longer form. The second letter places his version well away from the correct spelling.

I am very fortunate to be able to look at a misspelled English word and see that it is incorrectly spelled - even if I don't recall ever having seen it before (names of drugs excepted!). Maybe I have seen it when reading but not thought about it. On a related issue, how many of us look up a new word we see in book or article - a word we don't know the meaning of? I do. If I don't have a dictionary at hand, I'll ask my wife who also has an excellent vocabulary.

BTW, English was my worst subject at school so I'm not the best when it comes to grammar.

[vnx205]

I hit the submit button too soon.
The next post has the full version.

[vnx205]

Not necessarily true. One of our members yesterday used the word "redic" in another thread. It was, I assume, an abbreviation (why is the word abbreviation so long when it refers to a shortened form of a word? :D) for "ridiculous". Had he looked up a dictionary, he wouldn't have found it even if he had typed a longer form. The second letter places his version well away from the correct spelling.

I am very fortunate to be able to look at a misspelled English word and see that it is incorrectly spelled - even if I don't recall ever having seen it before (names of drugs excepted!). Maybe I have seen it when reading but not thought about it. On a related issue, how many of us look up a new word we see in book or article - a word we don't know the meaning of? I do. If I don't have a dictionary at hand, I'll ask my wife who also has an excellent vocabulary.

BTW, English was my worst subject at school so I'm not the best when it comes to grammar.

Even with this example it would only take two or three attempts to find the word.
The indeterminate "e" sound following the first letter has to be a vowel. So any one who looks up "rad- -", "red- -", "rid- -", "rod- -", "rud- -" will find the word fairly quickly and easily.
I agree that anyone who thinks it is spelled "rhid- -" will struggle a bit.

While I accept that sometimes people will have difficulty finding a word, there will be enough occasions when the word will be found easily enough to make it worthwhile trying.
That applies whether using a printed dictionary or something like Google.

I don't accept that it is so seldom possible to find the word that it is never worth making the attempt.

If I use a block of text from the example that started this thread, Google immediately gave the correct spelling for "awsom", "costom", "flears", "wepon", "pritty", "driviabel", "powerfull", "ecomoical", "disel", "engin", "stero", "disconeted", and "reciver".

It missed "gard" which apparently is an acronym for something and "requier" for which it offered "requiem".

I think 13 out of 15 is a pretty good success rate. A printed dictionary would have given a success rate almost as good as that.

Surely that makes it worth making the little bit of effort required!

[p38arover]

Surely that makes it worth making the little bit of effort required!


I think so but if Panda thinks using the ampersand is quicker than using "and", what hope is there? As noted earlier, using such abbreviations slows comprehension.

Those who use Firefox have the US dictionary built in but it's easy to add the Australian dictionary - so there is no real excuse for poor spelling on line. Firefox flags the misspelling immediately. However, I don't know how one can find the correct spelling within Firefox.

[vnx205]

I think so but if Panda thinks using the ampersand is quicker than using "and", what hope is there? As noted earlier, using such abbreviations slows comprehension.

Those who use Firefox have the US dictionary built in but it's easy to add the Australian dictionary - so there is no real excuse for poor spelling on line. Firefox flags the misspelling immediately. However, I don't know how one can find the correct spelling within Firefox.

I agree.

Surely the purpose of the post is to communicate.

I think speed and accuracy of comprehension should have a higher priority than speed of typing.

[Panda]

BTW, English was my worst subject at school so I'm not the best when it comes to grammar.

I find it your use of "BTW" quite intriguing, especially within this post.

[Panda]

I agree.

Surely the purpose of the post is to communicate.

I think speed and accuracy of comprehension should have a higher priority than speed of typing.

I fail to see how my posts, with the use of "&", instead of "and" would be ineffective communication.

With regard to your second paragraph, I'm afraid it doesn't really make much sense.

[Panda]

Getting a bit off topic, but the Qwerty keyboard is one of many innovations that seemed like a good idea at the time. It was deliberately designed to slow down typists so as to avoid jammed mechanism in early typewriters.

Like many 'standards' where the reason for them no longer applies, replacement of the Qwerty keyboard will be very difficult, simply because there are too many people that are more or less capable of using it. And very few of these are likely to want to change, even if they know there is a better system, because the process of change is too hard compared to the expected improvement. Same as with Windows, for example.

John

Isn't it extraordinary to think something was actually designed to be slower to avoid jamming mechanisms. How things have changed!

[rovercare]

I find it your use of "BTW" quite intriguing, especially within this post.

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[MajorNeb]

Does anyone know if the rear seat remover's are any good? Pain in the donkey to take them out all the time!

Wonder if he'll sell them separate?

:p

Nathanial

[vnx205]

I fail to see how my posts, with the use of "&", instead of "and" would be ineffective communication.

With regard to your second paragraph, I'm afraid it doesn't really make much sense.
I wasn't actually trying to argue that your abbreviations were a problem. In fact in Post #88 I said, "I know you don't advocate numerals for words (like "Knock b4 you enter") but the answer to your first question is; because even though it speeds up typing, it slows down comprehension. That really only applies to those other uses of numerals that you correctly described as not making sense."
I'm not sure why you think I have argued that your posts are ineffective communication.

I am also not sure whether you have really missed the point of my second paragraph or whether you are having a gentle dig at me by pointing out that comprehension can be affected by things other than abbreviations.

If it is the latter, I accept the joke.

If the former, then I offer the following explanations.

When typing, it should be more important to think about how easily a reader will understand what you have written rather than thinking about how fast you can type it.

A faster way of typing is not a good idea if it makes it harder for readers to understand the meaning of what is written.

[rovercare]

:D:D:angel:

[Panda]

I wasn't actually trying to argue that your abbreviations were a problem. In fact in Post #88 I said, "I know you don't advocate numerals for words (like "Knock b4 you enter") but the answer to your first question is; because even though it speeds up typing, it slows down comprehension. That really only applies to those other uses of numerals that you correctly described as not making sense."
I'm not sure why you think I have argued that your posts are ineffective communication.

I am also not sure whether you have really missed the point of my second paragraph or whether you are having a gentle dig at me by pointing out that comprehension can be affected by things other than abbreviations.

If it is the latter, I accept the joke.



I got the impression you argued that my posts are ineffective communication because in post #97 Ron said:- "but if Panda thinks using the ampersand is quicker than using "and", what hope is there? As noted earlier, using such abbreviations slows comprehension", to which you replied:- "I agree. Surely the purpose of the post is to communicate."

And yes, you are correct, I was having a gentle dig! :D

[vnx205]

....................... .....................
And yes, you are correct, I was having a gentle dig! :D

Fair enough.

Maybe your sense of humour is not so different from mine.:D

[Panda]

Fair enough.

Maybe your sense of humour is not so different from mine.:D

You got it!:D:p

[abaddonxi]

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Full Size Laminated Broad x1 - eBay, Other Building Materials, Building Materials, DIY, Home. (end time 06-Jul-08 20:36:30 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180259473548&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123)


A used full size laminated broad, 2.4M x 1.2 M x 0.02M. In reasonable condition, but may not be used as full size, as you can see the edges are not in good condition, and there is a cut off gap near one side. Pick up only in 2220

Who knows what you'll get when you go to pick it up.

:D:D:D

Cheers
Simon

[Disco_owner]

I'd buy this for a dollar!
Full Size Laminated Broad x1 - eBay, Other Building Materials, Building Materials, DIY, Home. (end time 06-Jul-08 20:36:30 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180259473548&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123)



Who knows what you'll get when you go to pick it up.

:D:D:D

Cheers
Simon

you might get a free lesson on spelling and Grammer :p

[p38arover]

you might get a free lesson on spelling and Grammer :p

:o

Grammar

[Disco_owner]

:o

Grammar


hahah , good to see the eyes are healing well.:D

[p38arover]

hahah , good to see the eyes are healing well.:D

I wish.

All I can see out of the left eye is light and shade. :( Hopefully another operation (to fit a lens) in a couple of months will fix that.

Of the surgeon's fee of $3,300 per operation, I've got back $465 from the health fund. Dunno about hospital costs or the gas man yet.

The right eye took 3 operations to fix the detachment in that eye. I still have to have the cataract removed from it.

I'm not game to add up the total costs of the 5 operations so far.

[JDNSW]

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Of the surgeon's fee of $3,300 per operation, I've got back $465 from the health fund. Dunno about hospital costs or the gas man yet.
.......

I'm not game to add up the total costs of the 5 operations so far.

Sounds a bit like the operation on my ear - then I got a bill for the assistant surgeon.... and a bill for the anaesthetist.... and a bill for the one phone call I made from the hospital (this wasn't the biggest bill, but it may have been the biggest shock - about ten times what it would have cost to phone from anywhere else!). And the surgeon wants to see me regularly for at least ten years (currently six monthly) at $60 a pop, plus three days time, travel and accommodation.

John

[51jay]

"Of the surgeon's fee of $3,300 per operation, I've got back $465 from the health fund. Dunno about hospital costs or the gas man yet. "

Geez!! thats pricy... I had retinal fixing on both eyes then cataract removal x2 left me about $200 out of pocket all up. Bonus is I now don't need glasses for general use, just for reading.

[p38arover]

"Of the surgeon's fee of $3,300 per operation, I've got back $465 from the health fund. Dunno about hospital costs or the gas man yet. "

Geez!! thats pricy... I had retinal fixing on both eyes then cataract removal x2 left me about $200 out of pocket all up. Bonus is I now don't need glasses for general use, just for reading.

We are in NSW! :mad:

He even charges of the follow up visit - $110 each time, of which I get $30 back from Medibank.

[51jay]

Money grubber!! Follow up visit after each surgery was no charge. He charges about $95 per consultation, medicare refunds about $55. Up here they usually bulk bill Surgical and hospital costs so the actual surgery and hospital stay didn'tcost me anything.

[Poida4x4]

I know this post's old and I haven't actually been through it all (I found it on a search for info on turbo timers) but I think it's worth making the point that not all people are blessed with either A: a good education, or B: a cognitive ability to use symbols for communication (i.e. dyslexia). Even dyslexics drive discoveries and might even want to sell them on eBay, and if they're ridiculed for it, they'll only be more afraid to keep at it...

[landy63]

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Reeley!!!

[300+]

This thread is quietening down without anybody bringing up that random use of appostrophie's.

I'm disappointed.

Cheers, Steve

[stevo68]

This thread is quietening down without anybody bringing up that random use of appostrophie's.

I'm disappointed.

Cheers, Steve Ya might wanna use spell check on the bolded word mate............considering the title of the thread :p,

Regards

Stevo

[300+]

Ya might wanna use spell check on the bolded word mate............considering the title of the thread :p,

Regards

Stevo

It was deliberate. Sod's law states that you will always make a mistake when criticising somebody else. I thought I would avoid the risk and create some humour at the same time by creating a multitude of spelling and grammatical errors in the one word, thus being free from blame for any mistakes.

Steve