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Col.Coleman
24th June 2008, 12:47 AM
I'm getting real sick of people using my wheels where I work as a target for urinal practice. I am going to hook up the electric fence to the diff housings and run it off the aux batt with a hidden on/off switch. :twisted::twisted::twisted:

What do you reckon of the chances of the pulse killing the ecu? I don't think it should be a problem.

I've already mentioned of doing it and the deterrent is working but I don't know for how much longer. Somebody is going to pay.:rocket::rocket::2up::2up:

CC

DEFENDERZOOK
24th June 2008, 01:16 AM
where exactly do you work.......



this may have something to do with it........
also....where do you park.......? is it somewhere out of the way......?
maybe park somewhere else.......?



otherwise.....get an aussie padlock.........and keep him in the car........
and i guarantee you will find more than urine at your wheels.......

RonMcGr
24th June 2008, 07:06 AM
I'm getting real sick of people using my wheels where I work as a target for urinal practice.

Eh??
Where do you park your car?
At the back of a toilet block?

abaddonxi
24th June 2008, 08:15 AM
Lucky that you live next to a park.

I live next to a pub.




I'm tired of people using my front door.:twisted:

Cheers
Simon

solmanic
24th June 2008, 08:21 AM
Are you sure it's people and not just dogs? For some reason my dog seems to treat car tyres the same as any other inanimate object sticking out of the ground.

Tote
24th June 2008, 09:00 AM
You'll need to park it on cardboard as there is enough carbon in the tyres to present a path to earth for the electric fence output.:wasntme:
Regards,
Tote

Col.Coleman
24th June 2008, 09:25 AM
No it's people. I manage a restaurant in the now trendy Oxford St Bulimba.
We have been there since day dot when there was nothing else in the street, the pub was the Balmongrol and it wasn't safe to go out after dark.
Anyway, the building is the original one built in the 50's when the ice works got torn down and it comes with a vacant block behind which is all part of the one block. Being there at night and my car being nice and large is a good place to hide to releive oneself, until I come out to get in it that is. I even had one bloke want to go on the block in the middle of the day when there wasn't even a car in sight.
Parking on the road is no use as I need to leave space for customers and up to 3 delivery drivers on the weekends.

Cardboard is in plentyfull supply:twisted::twisted:

Up to the farm I go

Do you reckon it will effect the ecu though?

CC

Sprint
24th June 2008, 09:32 AM
personally i'd try a lil 240v first

isuzurover
24th June 2008, 12:24 PM
Didn't mythbusters prove it wouldn't work? Or at least that was with whatever voltage trains use in the US.

I think if you tried this you may be opening yourself up to a lawsuit.

Why not convince the owner to fence off the area where you park?

Failing that, why not park further away??? If you are worried about security, I think Red October still lives a couple of streets from your work. He may let you park at his place.

RonMcGr
24th June 2008, 12:31 PM
Just remember, that in In Queensland, it is still legal to urinate on the passenger side rear wheel. :D

If you wire that one, the urinater can sue you for damages :eek:

In fact if they incur damage from peeing on any wheel, you are in deep do do...

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Panda
24th June 2008, 12:56 PM
I'm getting real sick of people using my wheels where I work as a target for urinal practice. I am going to hook up the electric fence to the diff housings and run it off the aux batt with a hidden on/off switch. :twisted::twisted::twisted:

:rocket::rocket::2up::2up:

CC

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:that is gold!

landymad
24th June 2008, 01:45 PM
I don't know about the ecu, but couldn't you hook up a marine type barrery isolation switch onto your +ve on the battery? Break the main battery circuit ( and thus the ecu and stereo, etc ) and isolate it from the battery, then it would be safe from the fence pulse?

DiscoStew
24th June 2008, 02:21 PM
No it's people. I manage a restaurant in the now trendy Oxford St Bulimba.
We have been there since day dot when there was nothing else in the street, the pub was the Balmongrol and it wasn't safe to go out after dark.
Anyway, the building is the original one built in the 50's when the ice works got torn down and it comes with a vacant block behind which is all part of the one block. Being there at night and my car being nice and large is a good place to hide to releive oneself, until I come out to get in it that is. I even had one bloke want to go on the block in the middle of the day when there wasn't even a car in sight.
Parking on the road is no use as I need to leave space for customers and up to 3 delivery drivers on the weekends.


CC

Trying to take my memory back a few years to when I grew up in that area not that long ago and filter out all the new restaurants. I cannot picture a restaurant in the same block as the pub so are you Willes(?) across Oxford St or the one on the corner next to the cinema?

Sorry no opinion on the ECU but your plan could increase your problem when regular pub goers set up their unaware mates by getting them to pee on your tyres. Or fans of jackass filming themselves for YouTube.

Sprint
24th June 2008, 02:31 PM
re: topic title.....

considering what they're doing, do you really want those people putting BOTH hands in the air?

QSDT
24th June 2008, 02:36 PM
You can buy small power fence energizers which run off a few "D" size batteries, but you will need to drive an earth rod into the ground and then have the other on your diff. It would be funny to watch:D

Bigbjorn
24th June 2008, 03:09 PM
No it's people. I manage a restaurant in the now trendy Oxford St Bulimba.
We have been there since day dot when there was nothing else in the street, the pub was the Balmongrol and it wasn't safe to go out after dark.
CC

I drank at the Bal for years. Was once a great pub. Wharfies, Ship's painters and dockers, boatbuilders, meatworkers. Couldn't hear your own thoughts in the public bar on a Friday night when you practically needed a porta-power to squeeze in. An occasional fight. The occasional gunshot when painters and dockers fell out. A shotgun went off one night in the public bar, blew a few ceiling tiles off, no-one hurt. The perpetrator was taken outside and given a kicking for his bad manners by his dockie colleagues. The police arrived to find that no-one had seen or heard a thing. Most thought that the practically still smoking hole in the ceiling had been there for years.

Can't understand why you say it wasn't safe after dark. Bulimba was the sort of suburb then that did not tolerate muggers or molesters, rough justice often being the order of the day. Ask Uncle Ho.

Now the Bal is called Oxford 152, does not have a public bar and has dress restrictions, no industrial clothing, no work boots, minimum standard of clean neat casual dress, and now the pub lacks colour & life.

keeffe88
24th June 2008, 03:31 PM
Anyway, the building is the original one built in the 50's when the ice works got torn down and it comes with a vacant block behind which is all part of the one block. Being there at night and my car being nice and large is a good place to hide to releive oneself, until I come out to get in it that is. I even had one bloke want to go on the block in the middle of the day when there wasn't even a car there.
Parking on the road is no use as I need to leave space for customers and up to 3 delivery drivers on the weekends.


CC
I presume your talking about Panchos..... and that is your white Defender???

I live around the corner and work weekends at the Thai Restaurant on the corner.

Nice to know there are others around the area...

As for your Peeing problem, not sure how to cure that one. We get the same thing around the side of our shop though..... I even think someone layed down a log there the other night ..... just wasnt the right consistency to be a dog. :wasntme:

You would think in a now "trendy" suburb people wouldnt be so feral.:twisted:

Strange world we live in.

PS: You still got your stage one.... wouldnt mind a look if your close....

Cheers, Josh

martinozcmax
24th June 2008, 04:21 PM
Absolutely hilarious Ron. :D :D :D

mox
24th June 2008, 05:31 PM
I have not actually seen, but have heard of electifying cars, but primarily for the purpose of punishing dogs that mark their territory on the wheels rather than two legged animals. This can be a significant problem for those who visit several places in succession where dogs are running loose, such as farms. Each dog trying to outdo the previous one can cause the vehicle to stink. It is also corrosive. Once had a car here that was regularly parked where a dog on a chain could get to one wheel. That rim rusted far more than the others.

The equivalent behaviour in humans, especially some politicians, is when they try and outdo or undo what their predecessors have on principle.

Regarding electrifying wheels to punish human animals that water them, one problem is they are likely to be the sort who may retaliate on the vehicle or its owner. There are also some technical considerations. As vehicles have non conductive tyres - or the walls at least, an earth to the ground is necessary - probably a stake connected by a wire from the other side of the energiser to that connected to the vehicle axles.

An on-off switch that can be reached without touching any metal part of the vehicle body that is likely to be electrified is necessary. Remember anyone touching it may get a shock.

On non driving axles of some vehicles, with non conductive bushes etc, there may not necessarily be electrical conductivity between the wheels and body. Non conduction could also prevent the system working as intended if a two legged animal is wearing footwear with thick non conductive soles. Also if the ground is very dry. Note re the latter that electric fences with only live wires are sometimes ineffective at stopping livestock. Am earth wire running parallel to it is necessary. Animals only get a shock when they push into the fence enough to complete the circuit.

Re powering the system, what is necessary is something providing pulses of high voltage but low amperage, such as an electric fence energiser, of which some are made to run off 12 volt batteries. Or maybe an an oscillator coil such as used to have a spark plug produce continuous sparks for starting some single cylinder two stroke diesels such as Lanz tractors. Both are several thousand volts open circuit.

I do not have any experience with vehicles with ECU's so could not comment on whether this sort of animal deterrent device could have any adverse effect on them.

abaddonxi
24th June 2008, 09:10 PM
I've noticed that bright lights seem to curb the urge, and darkness encourages the reverse.

I reckon a spotlight pointed in the right direction might just move them along to someone else's car.

Cheers
Simon

Bigbjorn
24th June 2008, 09:16 PM
As for your Peeing problem, not sure how to cure that one. We get the same thing around the side of our shop though..... I even think someone layed down a log there the other night ..... just wasnt the right consistency to be a dog. :wasntme:

You would think in a now "trendy" suburb people wouldnt be so feral.:twisted:

Strange world we live in.


Cheers, Josh

It is the twenty-something yuppies ****ed and/or pilled out of their minds who behave badly in public, not the old Bulimbaites. Even the young women do a Julian O'Neill in public, dropping their drawers in the street and peeing whilst waiting in taxi queues etc late at night.

Col.Coleman
24th June 2008, 11:32 PM
I presume your talking about Panchos..... and that is your white Defender???

I live around the corner and work weekends at the Thai Restaurant on the corner.

Nice to know there are others around the area...

As for your Peeing problem, not sure how to cure that one. We get the same thing around the side of our shop though..... I even think someone layed down a log there the other night ..... just wasnt the right consistency to be a dog. :wasntme:

You would think in a now "trendy" suburb people wouldnt be so feral.:twisted:

Strange world we live in.

PS: You still got your stage one.... wouldnt mind a look if your close....

Cheers, Josh

G'day mate, you get the gong for picking it. Say hello yo Yok for me. She was my wash up girl for a while. You guys do a great green curry.

Yep still got the stage1

The old types that used to live in the area are the ones I prefer. Straight up, took no crap, but polite and decent people. Now it is all what's in it for me, any small problem and they think everything should be free and they are DAMN RUDE.:mad:

CC

V8Ian
25th June 2008, 01:12 AM
A shotgun went off one night in the public bar, blew a few ceiling tiles off, no-one hurt.

Could you borrow the shottie? :D Probably more effective than a girly lecky fence. :o Just remember to fire the second shot in the air, as a warning. :nazilock: