I need more splines

[dobbo]

I'm looking for a 24spline front end hubs,axles, cv's, dif etc with matching radius arms.

Preferably in Sydney, Newcastle region

Anyone know of what sort of price I'd be looking at and/or any that are going cheap?

I saw one on ebay but due to the weight of such an item interstate transport makes it a tad pricey.

[Bush65]

Another option that will give you much stronger axles and cv's is to get side gears, axles for hilux cv's and the bush kit from jack mac.

24 spline axles and cv's are weaker than what you have now. To fix that you need maxi axles to suit county cv's plus 24 spline side gears.

[dobbo]

Another option that will give you much stronger axles and cv's is to get side gears, axles for hilux cv's and the bush kit from jack mac.



Would that require a full rebuild of the differential as opposed to a quick swap when the next weak ass link in the chain (the rover CW&P) fails?

Are MaxiDrive axles and CV joints seperate units or one piece like on a County, are they in 10 and 24 spline variants?
Are the CV's and axles still obtainable?

Anyone got a contact? (pm if necessary)

Failing all that

Has anyone got an idea of how shorten and graft an obtainable Dana60 front end (possibly F250) onto a County?

I'm sick of travelling on the lowest forms of human transport to get to and from work.

[abaddonxi]

I think I've got one spare hub.:angel:

It's a start.

PM sent.

Cheers
Simon

[isuzurover]

Dobbo - sounds like you need to read up on all the landie axle threads.

You have (assuming a stock county front end):
24 spline drive flanges
AEU2522 CVs - which have integral 24 spline stub axles and 23 spline on the inside.
23/10 spline inner axles.
a 10 spline diff centre with 3.54:1 centre.

You already have the strongest CV fitted to a normal LR (This is the CV Mal used to fit when he UPGRADED defender CVs). The only upgrades beyond that are Ashcroft CVs - which are $$$$ and Longfield CVs - which will need a kit from rovertracks and custom inner axles to fit them.

The REAL weak point in your front end are the inner axles and diff centre - which I assume is what you have broken???

The easiest and cheapest upgrade will be custom 23/24 spline inner axles from:
HYTUFF ENG
McNamara
Rovertracks
etc...

Combined with a 24spl locker or geared LSD of your choice
McNamara
ARB
Tru-Trac

I don't think you can fit a D60/Sals under the ISUZU without a serious lift, or moving the front axle forward. It would be serious overkill unless you want 35"+ tyres anyway.

[lokka]

Dobbo - sounds like you need to read up on all the landie axle threads.

You have (assuming a stock county front end):
24 spline drive flanges
AEU2522 CVs - which have integral 24 spline stub axles and 23 spline on the inside.
23/10 spline inner axles.
a 10 spline diff centre with 3.54:1 centre.

You already have the strongest CV fitted to a normal LR (This is the CV Mal used to fit when he UPGRADED defender CVs). The only upgrades beyond that are Ashcroft CVs - which are $$$$ and Longfield CVs - which will need a kit from rovertracks and custom inner axles to fit them.

The REAL weak point in your front end are the inner axles and diff centre - which I assume is what you have broken???

The easiest and cheapest upgrade will be custom 23/24 spline inner axles from:
HYTUFF ENG
McNamara
Rovertracks
etc...

Combined with a 24spl locker or geared LSD of your choice
McNamara
ARB
Tru-Trac

I don't think you can fit a D60/Sals under the ISUZU without a serious lift, or moving the front axle forward. It would be serious overkill unless you want 35"+ tyres anyway.

So the cvs fitted to a county are stronger than the early rangie ones hay i thought the early rangie ones pre 86 ish were the stronger option even tho they are only 10 spline

[rovercare]

Shouldn't this be in the tech section?:p

[rovercare]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/41523-county-cvs-suck.html

:eek::D

[Panda]

Matt the cheapest way to go would be get 24 spline axles an side gears an rebuild your diff, easy to do you could have it done in an arvo, keeping your own cv's an drive flanges, LVS could get you the axles an side gears should be under two hundred bucks, rebuild center back in all in a afternoon, as for the CWP if the diffs set up right you wont brake it, they only knock teeth off when the center pin brakes or the crown wheel teeth ride up over the pinion, which (the latter) wont do if its set up right nothing you can do about the pin unless you up grade the center, ie 4 pin lots of $$$

Tony

[MickG]

I am not sure what fits where or to what car, but I have a complete set of factory front & rear axles, CV's and CWP's from a D2, as I replaced my whole runing gear with maxi drive gear. Let me know if it of any use.

Aye, Mick

[lokka]

I am not sure what fits where or to what car, but I have a complete set of factory front & rear axles, CV's and CWP's from a D2, as I replaced my whole runing gear with maxi drive gear. Let me know if it of any use.

Aye, Mick

Only thing from the D2 that would fiy wouldbe the diff centers compleet in the carrier the hemisphere's which is what you would have left after fitting the maxi gear would be usefull tho im not sure if the sleeve ring to fit the different size bearings of the 24 spline hemisphere into the older 10 spline carrier housing ....

Next option would the planetary gears from a 24 spline hemisphere fit into a 10 spline hemisphere maby i should go try as i have a few of both hemispheres sitting on the shelf as i like rovercare drive just a tad on the extreem side and i dont mind breaking my stuff either when you part out rovers for hobby it gives you the ability to bust stuff and not care :cool::cool::angel::angel::angel::D:D:D

[isuzurover]

So the cvs fitted to a county are stronger than the early rangie ones hay i thought the early rangie ones pre 86 ish were the stronger option even tho they are only 10 spline

County CVs and early rangie CVs have the same dimensions. The only difference is the county CV has a 24 spline integral stub, and the rangie has the 10 spline female outer.

IME, Genuine (GKN) county CVs seem to hold up to more than a 10 spline stub. BUT - when you break a rangie stub you can just change stubs, when you break a County CV you need a new one.

Matt - I'm sure you can break anything if you try hard enough ;). I said they were the strongest CV used by LR...

[dobbo]

I can no longer get my prefered option, nor afford them under a different name. Talk about markup

Talked to a Melbourne guy this morning, colourful convo that was, I like the guy. He suggested using Patrol CV's and their axles.

Maxi drive/ Hytuff I have not been able to contact as yet, do they still do the CV's?

[rangieman]

I can no longer get my prefered option, nor afford them under a different name. Talk about markup

Talked to a Melbourne guy this morning, colourful convo that was, I like the guy. He suggested using Patrol CV's and their axles.

Maxi drive/ Hytuff I have not been able to contact as yet, do they still do the CV's?
And who was that in melb:cool:

[Bush65]

I can no longer get my prefered option, nor afford them under a different name. Talk about markup

Talked to a Melbourne guy this morning, colourful convo that was, I like the guy. He suggested using Patrol CV's and their axles.

Maxi drive/ Hytuff I have not been able to contact as yet, do they still do the CV's?
Stock Patrol cv's are similar strength to your County cv's - aftermarket 4340/300M cv's are much stronger. The Patrol axles are much stronger though. The Patrol diff is far, far stronger.

The problem with stock cv's is that they are made hard to have a long wear life. The downside to this is brittleness and loss of impact strength.

Maxi-drive never made cv's. They used to supply County cv's and made the drive flanges, bushes and axles so that County cv's could be used in 24 spline Land Rovers.

As Hytuff now make the axles, you could use them, and you already have hubs and drive flanges that suit the County cv's.

I doubt that stock Landrover 24 spline axles are as strong as your 10 spline axles, because the cv end is reduced so much in size to fit into the weak cv.

Before a company in the USA started making cv's from 4340 and 300M, Bobby Long revolutionised this sport by re-tempering hilux cv's and welding a strengthening ring to the bell. The heat treatment reduced the hardness, thus increasing the toughness/impact strength and wear life was not a problem for those who were breaking cv's.

The same can be done to County cv's, but it is hardly a commercial proposition for anyone to get into.