Tyre Poll...Advice/ Expertise Needed

[stevo68]

G'day All,

Am doing my homework on what brand of tyre will best suit my needs, am only looking at MT's.......I've waited along time to have muddies on my 4by :cool: and whilst still a way off want to start formulating my mod plan. I would be getting a 2 inch lift first.

Requirements are that it has to be good offroad, strong but also able to handle a fair bit of daily driving. I would average 7-800kms a week, mainly hwy driving. Cost is a consideration and I have a breakdown of costs for the tyres in the poll, but it is not the be all and end all. Am looking for first hand knowledge of the tyres, both positive and negative, not "I've heard that.......". Thanking you in advance for your assistance,

Regards

Stevo

[Reads90]

BFG
Definately get what you pay for :)

[Disco_owner]

Hi Stevo;

I voted maxxis Bighorns, I'm told they're a BFG Tyre but are cheaper,
my current tyres are a BFG MT's but will be going Maxxis shortly.

regards Khos

[rovercare]

Pro comp X-terrain:)

[stevo68]

Thanks for feedback so far, if I can be a pain and ask that you also state why as to your choice taking into account off road and on road amount of k's that I do. Noise doesnt so much bother me as I have a diesel :), but things like wet weather on the road, braking, general ride etc are important as well. How well they wear considering the conditions explained above. Thanks and appreciated,

Regards

Stevo

[Shepp]

Have had BFG, Copper STT, and Maxis Bighorns currently running Federal MTs.
BFG over the years have become somewhat softer and rediculously priced. The coopers although performed well when I had them, have had mixed responses from people and have heard some nasty stories. The Big horns have been good and I would have probably got them again only that I wanted to give the Federals a try for the price and I have not been disappointed. Very quiet on the road in fact I think they have been the quietest MT I have had they are also great in the mud and clear very well with quite a big lug pattern.
They will be my choice from now on. Lets just hope they dont go crazy and whack the price up with their popularity. Since they have become more popular they have already jumped by 30 - 40 dollars since I purchased mine. Still $230 a tyre still a great price.:beer:

[MacMan]

I have BFG MTs on the Disco at the moment on my second set of rims.

They are AWFUL on wet bitumen. Even in the dry I have to be careful cornering. I had the Disco oversteer quite badly on dry bitumen. The front end is vague, and it doesn't take much to lock all four wheels under brakes because I don't have ABS.

They are a necessary evil, but I don't know what I'll replace them with once worn out - definitely not completely for them!

[Fusion]

Howdy Stevo , Mate the bighorns are great on the road with a bit of noise but nothing you couldn't handle . Offroad they are fantastic :cool:. I got a lot further that i thought i would and put it all down to the bighorns . Haven't noticed much of a difference in the wet either as they hold the road well . so a big :BigThumb: from me mate . And the reason i bought them was they were cheaper than others and are doing a great job . If not better than the bigger named tyres ;).

[dungarover]

I look at it on price. The Maxxis Bighorns are well priced and good value for money but for me as a great all-rounder the Goodyear MT/R's are my choice especially for the conditions up here in QLD. I've had good wear out of my last set (that was 3 years ago, had 50K on them when I sold the Rangie that they we're on and they still had about 8mm tread left). I've had alternatives in the meantime but regardless of the price they're still worth the extra $$$.

BFG's are crap, have been for a few years now sadly (pre KM variants were good), I don't have much time for Coopers after having 3 sidewall punctures on 3 different LR's on a club trip once and they're all Cooper St's (the STT's may be better, dunno).

Still, if I wanted a hardcore tyre, I'd still whack on a set of Silverstone Mt117 sports that I had on the blue beast that I sold them with. Fot the price they're nothing else out there that compares.

Trav

[rovercare]

Everybody knows that BFG AT's are THE BEST their is:angel:

[dungarover]

Everybody knows that BFG AT's are THE BEST their is:angel:

Thats if you listen to the local boofheads at ARB. Dunno about Vic but the ARB outlets up here in QLD stock BFG's as they're the 'ultamate; off-road tyre :wasntme:

Trav

[Xavie]

I have bfg's and they are great off road. I think however on road they are not so great and from reading your posts before I think you'll be doing a lot of on road still so would not suggest them. And I would agree with an erlier comment about terrible in the wet and cornering. I have been known to take different roads if it is wet because of the tyres.

Next I will be going the mickey t's because in my experience they ride nicer on road and still have excellent off road capabilities.

Xav

[Loaded]

BFG MT

[srowlandson]

Pro comp X-terrain:)

i've had countless sets of tyres over the years to review etc. Xterrain is still the best all rounder, best on road tyre and awesome offroad.


there are more agreessive / better offroad, but nothing beats the xterrain on road etc.

[Radz]

BFG All terrains are good on my Defender. Traversed the Simpson and recently returned from Cape York via the Telegraph with no problems.
Quiet on the bitumen with good fuel economy.

cheers, Radz

[rovercare]

i've had countless sets of tyres over the years to review etc..

More details? work, play, sponsor, lucky?

[stevo68]

Some good feedback so far, can't wait till I can finally put the feedback into some rubber on my rims.....oh and the ok from SWMBO :angel:. So far maxxis and mtz's are neck and neck.

Regards

Stevo

[Brick]

Coopers - ST or STTs.

Got 114,000kms out a set of 285/75/16 STs on a non-LR used as a daily driver and towing motorbikes around the countryside. May have been possible to stretch for another 10-20 thou before being illegal. Changed to a set of 255/85/16 STs to get extra length in footprint when airing down. The second set were superb when driving in sand ruts as did not tend to grab the side and try to climb out of the rut.

Oh how I wish they made an 18" inch size.

[omy130]

Cooper ST 255/85/16 - 90k's on 1st & would have got more if rotated more often.
2nd set well on the same way. Good mix of daily drive & dirt.
Very happy since changing from BFG AT - had 3 sets of those.

[DRanged]

Stevo

Luckily I know what you do as in km,s and I would recommend the Maxxis Bighorns for your needs. The Federal seems to be a good tyre so far, but with the larger outer lug spacing it may wear quicker on road. From my experiance the BFG MT,s have a shocking sidewall damage rate compared to others.


Maxxis have released a new directional radial tyre ''Trepador'', very similar to the pro Comp Xterrain which is very quiet on road and has a 3 ply side wall compared to a 2 ply of the Pro Comp. Only problem is they come in a 31 x 10.5 x 15 or a 35 x 12.5 x 15. Thats it at the moment, but you never know.

Justin

[Treads]

I'll be very interested in the outcome of this. I'm on the market for exactly the same size M/T for the same purpose. So far I've only priced Goodyear MTR's, Mickey MTZ's, BFG's and Hankook Dynapro's.

I'm leaning toward the MTZ's.......

[Col.Coleman]

Unfortuanately Michelin only import muds in 7.50. If you wanted to you could import some from the UK. Otherwise your stuck with a poor second choice.
LTX only come in A/T but are as tough as nails, and wisper quiet with good grip. My XZL's are awesome but as I said they don't bring in the bigger 4x4 O/R's. Land rover are ment to wear Michies.
You could get the 9.00 x 16's, stonking tyre but $700 a pop

CC

[Tombie]

BFG
Definately get what you pay for :)

So pay for rubbish, get rubbish?? Is that what your saying :cool:

[Offender90]

I've got BFG Muddies atm, but my next tyre will most likely be a Bighorn.

They're good on road, I run them at 40 / 38 psi for front / rear respectively on a Defender 90 (usually unladen) and they wear well. NVH is an issue on road, especially at speed, but then you''ll get that with any agressive tyre pattern.

Luckily for me, the drone of the V8 completely masks the tyre noise! :) ... especially at speed!!! :p

Off road they've performed well WRT punctures. Have only had one sidewall puncture, that I steaked on a stick. My only gripe is running them in mud at low pressures. I constantly break beads at > 12 psi pressures. Meanwhile, a friend runs Bighorns and Wranglers at 8 to 10 psi at the same time and never breaks a single one.

Unfortunately, its a big gripe for me, as my routine has lately consisted of 2 hours of offroading and 3 hours of bead breaking / cleaning and resetting. There is a carwash in there somewhere as well, but it doesn't rate a mention next to the bead maintenance. For me, the gripe is big enough to warrant a brand change at the next purchase anyway. In the meantime, I'm giving Sikaflex some serious thought!

[Grimace]

Bighorns!

[MickG]

If it's muddies only stevo and knowing the sort of driving you do, I would focus on the onroad characteristics including tyre wear. I'd go for a harder compound tyre and i'd be fairly happy (given the comments) that most of the tyres you're looking at would go well off road given the sort of off road driving you do and want to do. It's going to be a compromise somewhere, but I would stay away from BFG's as they are woeful in the wet, did wear a bit on mine and IMO, were rubbish off road. I can't believe they cost so much when they are not that great at all, on or off road. I moved from BFG to Silvertone MT117 Sports and they are quite simply excellent off road, they are so sticky in all situations so far and are very well priced. I would not recommend them for you though as they will wear quickly with the amount of on road driving you do.
So, more info for you to digest but focus on wear and strength IMO.....the rest, as in off road, will be fine plus may also help you learn how to drive Smokey better if the tyre is not doing all the work. By that I mean if you have a super dooper tyre, it can take you so many places you thought impossible and can sometimes mask a badly chosen line etc. Looking back to when I had BFG Muds (had 2 sets as well) I had to be ready for unexpected or expected slip in certain situations so it forced me to try and put the car is the best position possible for the terrain knowing that the tyre may not do what I want it to. Am I making sense? I need another coffee but will bore you with my tyre research and thesis later:D:D

Aye, Mick

[stevo68]

Again thanks for the advice and experiences with the different brand of tyres. At this stage the MTZ's and the Maxxis are neck and neck, though on cost would be leaning towards the Maxxis, will also have a look at the Trepadors Justin. It would have been good to get some comparo's on the new BFG KM2's but I dont think they are available yet. At the end of the day, am looking forward to finally having a landy with muddies on it, the D3 was great with the Grabbers, albiet still low profile, so I think Smokey will look pretty horn with muddies and a lift. Just have to convince SWMBO :D. Will also look into some of the alternatives that have been mentioned as well,

Regards

Stevo

[Utemad]

With 7-800 road kms per week I'd be getting a second set of tyres. Keeping the A/Ts for everyday and some muds for play. Otherwise you'll wear out the play tyres before you even get to play.

I've got BFG A/T for everyday and Maxxis Bighorn for play. There is a size difference but I wouldn't be happy at all with driving on the Bighorns everyday. They are awful on the road compared to the BFG A/Ts. I've had MT/Rs too and they were not near as good on road as the BFG A/Ts either. That is to be expected though.

[D3Jon]

I'd second the idea of getting two sets. You will be doing a good few km's on road so a set of AT's might be best for that, then break out the spanners and fit the MT's for play time! :)

With such an open tread pattern, MT's put a lot less rubber in contact with the road surface, this means less grip in both the wet and dry which affects cornering and braking ability. It is very noticeable on a wet greasy road - but you adjust your driving to suit (i.e. slow down!)

I agree with Offender90 regarding BFG's breaking beads or at least getting crap in the beads when running at 20psi off-road. I also know one other BFG MT user who has the same problem.

Jon

[weeds]

With 7-800 road kms per week I'd be getting a second set of tyres. Keeping the A/Ts for everyday and some muds for play. Otherwise you'll wear out the play tyres before you even get to play.



I'd second the idea of getting two sets. You will be doing a good few km's on road so a set of AT's might be best for that, then break out the spanners and fit the MT's for play time! :)

With such an open tread pattern, MT's put a lot less rubber in contact with the road surface, this means less grip in both the wet and dry which affects cornering and braking ability. It is very noticeable on a wet greasy road - but you adjust your driving to suit (i.e. slow down!)


nah stevo just want to look the goods when cruising the shopping centre carparks :D:D ;) :p:p

[stevo68]

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With 7-800 road kms per week I'd be getting a second set of tyres. Keeping the A/Ts for everyday and some muds for play. Otherwise you'll wear out the play tyres before you even get to play.

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I'd second the idea of getting two sets. You will be doing a good few km's on road so a set of AT's might be best for that, then break out the spanners and fit the MT's for play time! :)

With such an open tread pattern, MT's put a lot less rubber in contact with the road surface, this means less grip in both the wet and dry which affects cornering and braking ability. It is very noticeable on a wet greasy road - but you adjust your driving to suit (i.e. slow down!)

nah stevo just want to look the goods when cruising the shopping centre carparks :D:D ;) :p:p
Rightly or wrongly, weeds has kinda hit the nail on the head :p, though not so much shopping centre car parks ;). Once I have them on, I intend to be getting off road more often and to change over would be a pain, plus Im getting older ( 40's old right ??:)). Plus would need a 2nd set of rims, though I do understand the reasoning.

At this stage part of it will be my own learning experience, but also spent a couple of weeks driving Micks D2 with 285's Silverstones on in both wet and dry weather and found them fine to drive on. Looking at the poll the Maxxis look like they will be the go :cool:,

Regards

Stevo

[Col.Coleman]

I've got the 2 sets of rims(5 actually) and by the time I get around to swapping to the street tyres, it's time to go off road again, so havn't bothered. I've only stripped 2mm off since Feb in about 20 000k.
2 sets are nice but a waste if you don't change them.

CC

[WildOne]

Definately go the second set of tyres for play only, you'd be surprised how much driving around on mud tyres all day around town adds to your fuel consumption. Add that to generally quicker wear rates when using muds onroad and poorer handling in emergency situations.
Then again, a second set of tyres + rims for a D2 is not exactly cheap......

Cheers, Phill

[HAK]

what no coopers we still think that coopers STT are crap wow tunnel vision :cool:

[Psimpson7]

I am going to defend the BFG's.

I really rate them, admitedly they may not be quite as good as they used to be but I have had 2 sets on my 90 aswell as the standard General Grabbers and I really like them. (Bear in mind I 'used' to hoon around all the time and I have never felt that they were going to throw me off the road) They also transition from grip to no grip nicely and dont snap.

Wet handling is good, with the possible caveat of wet breaking with which a bit of care is needed, but no more than any other muddy. (and in my opinion they are better in this regard than the Grabbers)

Off road they get me everywhere I point the car, and I have only ever wrecked one, and had one 'normal' puncture.

Life seems to be about 80000km maybe more.

Cheers
Pete

[brownie66]

Wilslt I dont have a great deal of experience in off road tyres, I can say that we have the general grabbers for daily use and now a set of the Fereral MT's for off road. Personally after a stint on road, it's nice to get the grabbers back on as their is no comparision for the handling that the AT or "more" street tyre gives. I wouldn't want to drive a few hundered km's on the MT's each week based on this either. The Fererals were great on the springs weekend and I dont think that I could have done half of what we did on the grabbers (or would have experienced a great deal of wear). I also looked at the MTZ's and may have done these if I wanted one set only.

So I guess two sets is the best of both worlds and it makes street driving so much easier...

[stevo68]

Whilst I can see the pluses of running 2 lots of tyres, it is then weighing up the cost as well. 5 x MT=@ $1375.00, 4 x AT's say grabbers=$1280.00. Add rims- $1000....total $3655....(figures are approximates). In terms of kms travelled, I go to Brisbane and back at least 3 times a week...call it 500kms. I have done it in the D3 with HP's and Grabbers, the D2 with current crap AT's on it and Micks D2 with Silverstone muddies in a 285/75 in dry and wet weather. There's not much difference at 110km on cruise control. In terms of handling, I already drive to suit being in a 4WD and whilst it would be great to run 2 sets, I can't justify the cost or the hassle. Plus no doubt some MT's will have better on road manners than others. So at this stage the Maxxi's are still the front runner,

Regards

Stevo

[maca]

Ive always wanted to try Simex Jungle Trekker 2's (just because they look cool).

Ive run BFG AT's and liked them (But I mainly do sand driving) and I also have a set of Maxxis Buckshots, that I bought back when Maxxis were really cheap. I was really happy with these aswell (that is untill the S3 blew up), the Maxxis muddies will be going on me RRC next time I get a chance.

[FenianEel]

Stevo,

Had Maxxis Muddies (Buckshots though one down from Bighorn), for about 2 years, (prob 45,000k) and very happy with them. They handle fine on road (including the wet), aren't that noisey at all. Mine is a daily driver too, they have worn pretty well considering there has been wayyy too much on road and not enough off road:D
Off road I couldn't fault them, they seem well constructed, hold well, and have a decent open pattern that doesn't seem to clog in slop.
Not sure how the sidewalls compare to others. I have taken a bit of rubber off on rocky sections where the tyre gets kinda wedged, and they don't like it when the missus continually grinds the gutter when parking :mad: (but what does).

2 sets of rims are a great idea but....PITA changing them(especially for lazy folks :wasntme:, discos look faggy with road tyres:D and no good if you want to shoot off the highway or take a random quick trip or detour.

Not sure if you know a good supplier on the Coast, or if the club has a contact, I can recommend Artic Cool Treads (Tyrepower) at Rocklea. Very knowledgable,into 4wding and always excellent on price and service.

Cheers ;)

[Slunnie]

If it's muddies only stevo and knowing the sort of driving you do, I would focus on the onroad characteristics including tyre wear. I'd go for a harder compound tyre and i'd be fairly happy (given the comments) that most of the tyres you're looking at would go well off road given the sort of off road driving you do and want to do.
<snip>
Aye, Mick
You can still have soft tyres for traction and longevity, but to get this you will have to move away from the traditional carbon black tyres and look for Silica compounds - these were the next generation of tyre construction from about 7 years ago, and are soft for traction and long wearing.

I run Goodyear MTR's which were about the first serious Silica tyre and probably still one of the few. I've had the same set on for years and years as my daily drive and touring tyres (I use Simex offroad) and they have been excellent. Offroad they perform really well in my opinion for what is an open pattern tyre. They are not a mud tyre as such, but are not far behind in the performance of a mud when in the mud, lacking the lateral stability and some drive, especially for an "All terrain" tyre. The carcass is strong on them which is particularly important for touring work and their load rating is excellent. The edge lugs are angled which seems to quieten them compared to most muds and it also means that the low speed vibrations from when square (eg, BFG MT, MT MTZ etc) lugs contact the road, especially when cornering. The Silca compound is looong wearing and it gives good traction on dirt, and on wet or dry bitumin despite not having any sipping in the pattern. I would buy these again, but I would also look at the X-terrain, MT MTZ and the Radial Trepador.

[Disco2]

Whilst I can see the pluses of running 2 lots of tyres, it is then weighing up the cost as well. 5 x MT=@ $1375.00, 4 x AT's say grabbers=$1280.00. Add rims- $1000....total $3655....(figures are approximates). In terms of kms travelled, I go to Brisbane and back at least 3 times a week...call it 500kms. I have done it in the D3 with HP's and Grabbers, the D2 with current crap AT's on it and Micks D2 with Silverstone muddies in a 285/75 in dry and wet weather. There's not much difference at 110km on cruise control. In terms of handling, I already drive to suit being in a 4WD and whilst it would be great to run 2 sets, I can't justify the cost or the hassle. Plus no doubt some MT's will have better on road manners than others. So at this stage the Maxxi's are still the front runner,

Regards

Stevo

Hi Stevo,

I too went thru this dilema a couple of months back.

My daily drive tyre are BFG A/T's and they just don't cut it in most and in particlar muddy situation when aired down.

They wear very well on road and I've been to both Cape York and the Vic High country on them and they've performed flawlessly in all conditions that I encountered. In the mud, those bl..dy rim protectors come into play and I've spent an inordinate amount of time getting the tyres taken off, the rims cleaned of dried mud and then replaced.

The second set are Federal 265/75 M/T's which were $1075.00 fitted and balanced to 5 rims which cost $450.00.

The Federals are very quite on the black stuff and I think you wil find that Shepp will agree with that.

Time to change boots is 30 mins and I'm way older than you. NO! 40 is not old.

I've not done any calculation on the differences in fuel consumption betwwen the two, but from all that I've read and have been told by others there is a significant cost differential. I suppose if you own a 4WD you should'nt worry about fuel costs since they have the aerodynamics of a brick.

That said $1525.00 is not a lot of fuel. I'll spend at least that when we do the Flinders Ranges in September. BUT I'd rather decide where I spend it rather than just giving it to some dumb ars*d oil speculator.

As others have said the muddies have significantly less grip on the black stuff and as we all know there are some realy really really BAD drivers on the Gold Coast. Obviously Mexicans, and although I can drive to the conditions as well as others, on occassions I've had to use everthing I've got when some dopey blonde has cut across in front of me.

My next set of daily drive tyres may well be a set of H/T's as I don't give a toss on how the vehicle look to others when it's in 'Sheep mode'. It's 'Wolf mode' when I'm at play that counts.

Anyway, I gather that your set on the Maxxis and good luck but food to think again on dual sets.

Cheers

Richard

[Disco300Tdi]

And not a tyre rep to be seen

You can never have enough safe rubber when travelling

[philco]

As you showed on your first post you have a list of popular tyres, it sometimes appears that the reason they are popular is sometimes we all get a little scared to try something new and a not so well known tyre can put us off purchasing them as not many others have tried them.
I agree with Richard that the price and quality of a not so well known tyre can be better on the pocket and for the vehicle.
I have been looking for a new set for my defender 130 and have come across a wide variety of tyres available
Eldorado tyres at Tyres 4U (http://www.tyres4u.com.au)
Kumho at Kumho Tyres Australia Pty Ltd (http://www.kumho.com.au)
Federal couragia at Federal Tyres Australia - Home (http://www.federaltyres.com.au)
Ironman Electra tyres from Super Cheap Tyres - Car and Motorcycle Tyres (http://www.supercheaptyres.com.au) in nerang
I have had a set of Eldorado trail cutter mud terrains on a Patrol i had and they were fantastic, quiet on road and heaps of grip off road. made by coopers, slow wearing also.
but its up to you what you do.
cheers Phil

[incisor]

as an aside there arent too many brands in that lot that do a decent tyre for a defender if you dont what 235/85 or 7:50x16 :p

i have been looking for some decent 255/85x16 or 33x10.5x15 to replace the steel treks on mine and out of that list the only candidate were the eldorado trailcutter R/T in 255/85x16 which i had not heard of before to be honest.

[DRanged]

as an aside there arent too many brands in that lot that do a decent tyre for a defender if you dont what 235/85 or 7:50x16 :p

i have been looking for some decent 255/85x16 or 33x10.5x15 to replace the steel treks on mine and out of that list the only candidate were the eldorado trailcutter R/T in 255/85x16 which i had not heard of before to be honest.

Maxxis do a 255 x 85 x 16 in the Buckshot M/T. We put them on Nath's disco. Very impressed.

Justin

[incisor]

Maxxis do a 255 x 85 x 16 in the Buckshot M/T. We put them on Nath's disco. Very impressed.

Justin

hmmm not listed on maxxis.com in that size. have to ask the man if they are still around..

ta

[dungarover]

As you showed on your first post you have a list of popular tyres, it sometimes appears that the reason they are popular is sometimes we all get a little scared to try something new and a not so well known tyre can put us off purchasing them as not many others have tried them.
I agree with Richard that the price and quality of a not so well known tyre can be better on the pocket and for the vehicle.
I have been looking for a new set for my defender 130 and have come across a wide variety of tyres available
Eldorado tyres at Tyres 4U (http://www.tyres4u.com.au)
Kumho at Kumho Tyres Australia Pty Ltd (http://www.kumho.com.au)
Federal couragia at Federal Tyres Australia - Home (http://www.federaltyres.com.au)
Ironman Electra tyres from Super Cheap Tyres - Car and Motorcycle Tyres (http://www.supercheaptyres.com.au) in nerang
I have had a set of Eldorado trail cutter mud terrains on a Patrol i had and they were fantastic, quiet on road and heaps of grip off road. made by coopers, slow wearing also.
but its up to you what you do.
cheers Phil

Nothing wrong with the cheaper options, know someone who had a set of Savero Mt's and had plenty of k's out of them, never had a puncture and for 2 $200 for a 265/75 you can't go too wrong.

I bought my Goodyear MT/R's mainly on my own experience, they wern't cheap but was happy to fork out a bit more for what is IMO the best all-rounder on the current market.

Trav

[DRanged]

hmmm not listed on maxxis.com in that size. have to ask the man if they are still around..

ta

Give Brett at Austyre & Wheel at Molindinar a call on 0755 970099
If anyone can get them he will.

Justin

[DRanged]

Nothing wrong with the cheaper options, know someone who had a set of Savero Mt's and had plenty of k's out of them, never had a puncture and for 2 $200 for a 265/75 you can't go too wrong.

I bought my Goodyear MT/R's mainly on my own experience, they wern't cheap but was happy to fork out a bit more for what is IMO the best all-rounder on the current market.

Trav

Trav I just put a set of the Maxxis Trepador radials on the rangie. Just as quiet as the Bravo A/T and very agressive for a directional Radial. Tested them today on road in the rain. Very impressed. Very very quiet and at $300 a tyre for 35 x 12.5 x 15 you cant go wrong, will be interesting to see how they are off road. For the harder tracks I will put the Creepies back on though.

Justin

Justin

[dungarover]

Heard good things about those trepadors from a couple of people who have them on. I heard that they're only available in 31's and 35's ATM though, 33's aren't far off (maybe out by now :confused:).

At $300 a tyre for a 35 inch, that's good value in anyone's language. I spent more than I liked on the Goodyears but have 12 months to pay for them.

Trav

[incisor]

i just ordered 5 @ 255/85x16 Maxxis Bighorns

couldnt find anything else in that size other than BFG and a couple of AT's and the bighorns are reportedly viewed in a better light than the BFG. none of the cheaper brands such as federal or nangang do that size.

get em fitted friday hopefully, have to go play in beerburrum on saturday afro me thinks :P

[stevo68]

i just ordered 5 @ 255/85x16 Maxxis Bighorns

couldnt find anything else in that size other than BFG and a couple of AT's and the bighorns are reportedly viewed in a better light than the BFG. none of the cheaper brands such as federal or nangang do that size.

get em fitted friday hopefully, have to go play in beerburrum on saturday afro me thinks :P Good stuff mate, make sure you put up some pics and let me know how they are on the road etc,

Regards

Stevo

[philco]

Federal couragia M/T 235/85/16 $210.00 incl fit and balance
Ironman Electra A/T 235/85/16 $189.00 incl fit and balance
Ironman M/T 235/85/16 $189.00 incl fit and balance
if buy set of four from the super cheap tyre store on Nerang Ashmore Rd, opposite cheapa auto spares, Can't miss the sign if you look to your right if coming from Ashmore heading towards Nerang.
He's very helpful

[stevo68]

Federal couragia M/T 235/85/16 $210.00 incl fit and balance
Ironman Electra A/T 235/85/16 $189.00 incl fit and balance
Ironman M/T 235/85/16 $189.00 incl fit and balance
if buy set of four from the super cheap tyre store on Nerang Ashmore Rd, opposite cheapa auto spares, Can't miss the sign if you look to your right if coming from Ashmore heading towards Nerang.
He's very helpful Thanks for that info mate, in terms of tyre place, I only go to Brett at Austyre as he always looks after me and many in the club with prices and overall service. At this stage the Maxxis are still looking hot favourite, though will be looking into some of the others as well,

Regards

Stevo

[philco]

no worries, just thought you might like to know about them

[incisor]

welp here they are.

way way smoother ride than what i was getting on 7.50x16's

got a trip to woodford tomorrow so i might come back the long way (via mt mee) and try them on some dirt if i can get the time..

[harry]

i'ts a shame that disco wheel [and its mates] isn't on a disco - mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[incisor]

no good now mate there dirty :eek:

a quick sojourn down the powerline track at beerburrum on the way back from a job at woodford... :D;)

[stevo68]

no good now mate there dirty :eek:

a quick sojourn down the powerline track at beerburrum on the way back from a job at woodford... :D;) Ya killing me mate.........can't wait till I can get mine on, Ill expect a full review after a mths usage :D seeing that it is your daily driver,

Regards

Stevo

[Fusion]

Ya killing me mate.........can't wait till I can get mine on, Ill expect a full review after a mths usage :D seeing that it is your daily driver,

Regards

Stevo

Howdy Stevo , Mate i have taken the disco for a good run in the wet weather and the maxxis hold the road great . there was no drifting or sliding and i was taking the corners just as hard as i would in the dry ...... my grin keeps getting bigger and bigger with the bighorns :D;).

[stevo68]

Howdy Stevo , Mate i have taken the disco for a good run in the wet weather and the maxxis hold the road great . there was no drifting or sliding and i was taking the corners just as hard as i would in the dry ...... my grin keeps getting bigger and bigger with the bighorns :D;). Thanks Mick, good to know, can't even count the days atm as to when I can get them :mad:......but it will be at least in the next 3 mths.........just gotta keeping working on SWMBO...........5 brats dont help my cause either :D,

Regards

Stevo

[harry]

well looks like the bighorns also for me,
what is the biggest and thinnest? that i can get under my d1??

[dungarover]

Harry,

I think they come in a 225/75 which is about the same height as your current (and bald :wasntme:) set of BFG's. I know Goodyear make the mt/r's in that size but they're bloody exxy.

You could get 245/75's under your D1 if you're keen to get handy with the grinder on the rear guards (the lip on the bottom rear needs trimming or you'll bend the guard back when the tyres go up in the suspension travel). These are a good all-round size and you'll be able to tackle most things with a modicum of clerance.

Trav

[stikman]

well looks like the bighorns also for me,
what is the biggest and thinnest? that i can get under my d1??

Nath and Navron both run Bighorns from memory, Nath in a 33 - 255/85/16 from memory (which runs at almost 35 with full tread!) and Navron a 31 - 265/70/16. Nath has a 4inch spring lift, Nav has a 2inch spring lift. Both running standard offset alloys both requiring just a camel cut. Nath restricted up travel with extended bump stops though.

My BFGs are 285/75/16 which run just under 33inch but are wider then the 255/85 which are taller and narrow.

A little cut and we can make anything fit :)