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tolinja
5th July 2008, 09:30 AM
Hey guys,
I know this has prob been discussed, I scearched and was unable to find to much info on the new defender, so hear goes.
my question is
is there a duel battery tray setup or are you better going down the track of a sheet of ally to level up the under seat area and making your own tie downs?

would you go for a vsr to seperate the batterys?


thanks for the help
chaser

one_iota
5th July 2008, 10:13 AM
There was some discussion here about the size of batteries that can fit in the space.

But as for cradles:

Piranha have one for the Defender:

Piranha Cradlesess Releases (http://www.piranhaoffroad.com.au/products/dualbattery/dualbatteryinfo_cradlevehicle_images.htm?part_no=B TDEF)

As to whether it suits the 2007+ model I don't know. The batteries have been turned East West rather than the single North South original orientation so whether the stock battery will fit turned around is a question?

By "vsr" are you referring to a charge controller?

If so then one of our sponsors has them:

www.traxide.com.au (http://www.traxide.com.au)

dullbird
5th July 2008, 11:23 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/07/1095.jpg

here is ours with the traxide set up and no mods to the box....

pic just to give you an idea of how we did it the batterys are a very tight fit.

the battery lid has not been put back on yet i dont think as it needs to have rubber put on it.

and dont ask me how he tied them down becasue i'm not sure....:D, would have to ask him as the car is not here for me to look at

discowhite
5th July 2008, 12:51 PM
i made some brackets for him and we drilled a couppla holes and bolted them down thru the floor.

cheers phil

Rugrat
6th July 2008, 03:37 PM
But as for cradles:

Piranha have one for the Defender:

Piranha Cradlesess Releases (http://www.piranhaoffroad.com.au/products/dualbattery/dualbatteryinfo_cradlevehicle_images.htm?part_no=B TDEF)



Piranha have one to fit the new 07 defender. The TD5 tray doesn't fit without mods (bolt holes are different). The original battery stays put, you just need to relocate the 'wheel chock and brace'.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Not as neat in my wiring as Dullbird's but its secure. I think that is the largest battery that will fit the tray also.

The ho har's
6th July 2008, 03:48 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/07/1095.jpg

here is ours with the traxide set up and no mods to the box....

pic just to give you an idea of how we did it the batterys are a very tight fit.

the battery lid has not been put back on yet i dont think as it needs to have rubber put on it.

and dont ask me how he tied them down becasue i'm not sure....:D, would have to ask him as the car is not here for me to look at


Gee dullbird those floor mats etc look very clean I take you have not been near the dirt B4:angel:


Mrs ho har:D

dullbird
6th July 2008, 05:01 PM
you are so right mrs ho har........we have never taken our cars out to see the dirt B4:angel::D;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/07/1089.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/1072.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/133.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/659.jpg

The ho har's
7th July 2008, 07:46 AM
you are so right mrs ho har........we have never taken our cars out to see the dirt B4:angel::D;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/07/1089.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/1072.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/133.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/659.jpg


geee you must tell us where you get your fender detailed after such trips:angel:

Mrs ho har:D

dullbird
7th July 2008, 09:15 AM
geee you must tell us where you get your fender detailed after such trips:angel:

Mrs ho har:D

certainly its the back yard with the presure washer:D......

or the lords toilet breaks:eek::D

tolinja
7th July 2008, 06:27 PM
Piranha have one to fit the new 07 defender. The TD5 tray doesn't fit without mods (bolt holes are different). The original battery stays put, you just need to relocate the 'wheel chock and brace'.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2401/img1532gq5.jpg
Not as neat in my wiring as Dullbird's but its secure. I think that is the largest battery that will fit the tray also.

thanks
its a bit hard to see the photo you posted could you email it to me please
tolinja@bigpond.com

thanks guys for all the help

chaser

newhue
21st September 2010, 10:37 AM
Hi guys, an old post but I was wounding if we can update it a little. I have a DEKA AGM battery which I would like to use as the auxiliary.

It's 13" (330mm)L x 7" (175mm)W x 9 1/4" (235mm)H.

Piranha make a battery tray to fit post 07 defenders, but it only accommodates up to a 10" (254mm)L battery according to Piranha. And it can't be modified.

Has anyone fitted bigger then a 10inch battery in the original battery box? Is this possible?

I have heard some turn the battery tray 90° to accommodate bigger batteries. But I assume these would be after market trays, but have no idea of brand.

any ideas?

thanks
Jason

Scallops
21st September 2010, 11:43 AM
Your new Defender won't have a tray as such - the battery sits in the box under the passenger seat. The Varta cranker that comes with the Defy is a large battery too - you might be able to fit your aux in there too - just wait until Saturday and see. ;)

But otherwise - there are other options for the additional battery - mine isn't with the cranker.

stevencam
21st September 2010, 06:11 PM
This set up has a custom plate fitted to the bottom of the box to provide a flat base with tie down points. The original starter is fitted east west at the rear with an allrounder 105 ah in the front, cost was less than a piranha tray for I think a better outcome.

newhue
23rd September 2010, 04:04 PM
Stevencam, perfect, that's what I'm hoping to do.
Mine is a 105amp, and it makes sense to have them both in the same spot for many reasons.
I may have to get my local metal fabricator to do some magic if the market suppliers only cater for small batteries, which it looks like.

JohnR
23rd September 2010, 10:20 PM
This set up has a custom plate fitted to the bottom of the box to provide a flat base with tie down points. The original starter is fitted east west at the rear with an allrounder 105 ah in the front, cost was less than a piranha tray for I think a better outcome.

Mine looks very similar to yours stevecam, except I kept them running North/South and I seem to have a few more wires jammed into the small box!

The only thing is I am contemplating trying to remove most of the wiring from the box, cutting a few big holes through the back of the box and making a large fuse box with circuit breakers and battery isolation switches in the foot well of the rear passenger side seat. Much better for problem solving, future proofing and incase of emergency you can get to it real quick!

Cheers,

stace70
24th September 2010, 05:40 AM
johnr......have you thought about raising the cubby box and putting fuse box etc in their along with wiring from under drivers seat????

numpty
24th September 2010, 06:39 AM
johnr......have you thought about raising the cubby box and putting fuse box etc in their along with wiring from under drivers seat????

That's where I have my auxiallary fuses in the Td5....under the cubby box. main feed is brought from the starter motor rather than the battery and is fed up through the hole under the cubby box.

stevencam
24th September 2010, 11:21 AM
Mine looks very similar to yours stevecam, except I kept them running North/South and I seem to have a few more wires jammed into the small box!

The only thing is I am contemplating trying to remove most of the wiring from the box, cutting a few big holes through the back of the box and making a large fuse box with circuit breakers and battery isolation switches in the foot well of the rear passenger side seat. Much better for problem solving, future proofing and incase of emergency you can get to it real quick!

Cheers,

Yeah its a really tight fit, makes access to the fuse block and controller difficult, thankfully have not had any problems that needed emergency access.

jake
24th September 2010, 02:18 PM
G'day

Just as a thought, I recently had all accessory wires placed in the area under the drivers seat. Now have the following fitted their.

UHF Radio main body
anderson plug cable with fuse
Brake Controller wiring with fuse
2 x fuse boxes

The Auto Elect that did this for me has allowed me to reduce wiring in the Barttery bay. It is a little busy underneath but much easier for problem solving than the battery box. In saying that I still have a couple of items directly wire to the 2nd battery.


Jake

JohnR
24th September 2010, 05:23 PM
johnr......have you thought about raising the cubby box and putting fuse box etc in their along with wiring from under drivers seat????

Good idea but, I already have Amplifier, GPS, Revearsing camera, aux power outlets all under there! So no room in this location! :o

Cheers,

cygnet18
10th October 2010, 12:02 PM
Stevencam, Read your reply regarding duel battery system. Where did you purchase your custom plate. Could you still fit a Rotronics Control unit at the end of the box.

Cygnet18.

stevencam
12th October 2010, 09:02 AM
Stevencam, Read your reply regarding duel battery system. Where did you purchase your custom plate. Could you still fit a Rotronics Control unit at the end of the box.

Cygnet18.

The installation was done at Shepparton 4WD. They just got a local fabricator to cut and fold some plate to the appropiate size. I have a piranha isolator fitted at the front of the box, I believe the rotonics units are quite a bit larger so may not fit in that location?

gconran
13th October 2010, 12:17 PM
So just my two cents...

My second battery is mounted in the rear left wheel arch. I didnt do the fitting, it was there when I bought it but he has had a custom storage case welded into the wheel arch and its great! Easy access and probably easier if I ever plan to run a fridge etc from the rear. There are also 3 merit plugs for usage out of the rear of the vehicle and for the work light on the back.

Ill put some photos up to give you a better idea of how it all works...

Cheers.