TWIN shocks for the rear???

[4.42doorrangie]

Has anyone set up twin shocks for the rear on a 2 door?? i've changed to Disco diff for strength and the shock mounts are on the front of the diff. I thought i might look into it while i'm under there.

Also im trying to fit a locker to that diff, does anyone know where one is available ive quoted on a few and they are mega expensive.


Thanks Simon

[rangieman]

Has anyone set up twin shocks for the rear on a 2 door?? i've changed to Disco diff for strength and the shock mounts are on the front of the diff. I thought i might look into it while i'm under there.

Also im trying to fit a locker to that diff, does anyone know where one is available ive quoted on a few and they are mega expensive.


Thanks Simon
Where is the strength in a disco diff :Rolling: its the same as your rangie diff except for 24 spline axles
:Rolling:
In standard form you would,nt want to go rock crawling;)
Oh try ARB for a diff lock , and if you go the ARB way you will need to go stronger axle,s the sound off breaking match sticks:p

[r.over]

Has anyone set up twin shocks for the rear on a 2 door?? i've changed to Disco diff for strength and the shock mounts are on the front of the diff. I thought i might look into it while i'm under there.
If you get a chance you can look at Mike Smith's comp Rangie, it has twin shocks front and rear.

[4.42doorrangie]

Where is the strength in a disco diff :Rolling: its the same as your rangie diff except for 24 spline axles
:Rolling:
In standard form you would,nt want to go rock crawling;)
Oh try ARB for a diff lock , and if you go the ARB way you will need to go stronger axle,s the sound off breaking match sticks:p

the purpose for using the disco diff is to go to fine spline with arb locker unit and high tuff axels. LOTS of strength there. is there any reason to go to dual shockers what advantage is there???

[Disco_owner]

4.4 2 door

you'll need to weld an extra set of Shock mounts on the chassis to bolt on the 2nd set of dampers , one of our club members has done this with great success , there is a main and 2ndary , Main = Bilstein and 2ndary is a brand called Bogue or somthing I haven't heard of , the 2nd set of dampers complements the main one really well.

For touring another set up which i found works well ( and I'm speaking from experience ) is to have Polyairs in your coil springs ,but there are a lot of different opinion as to what works best , for touring I actually prefer the single shock with polyair bag setup and I can adjust ride height depending on the weight etc.:)

[Waxenwane]

the purpose for using the disco diff is to go to fine spline with arb locker unit and high tuff axels. LOTS of strength there. is there any reason to go to dual shockers what advantage is there???

Ther was no need to go Disco for that as the ARB centre for a Disco has the fine spline side gears. The disco axles are a lot stronger than the 10 spline and unless you plan on giving it an absolute hiding will probably be OK.
There are only 2 choices as far as selectable diff locks in oz now as far as I know and they are the ARB or Jacmac. Personally I would steer away from the auto lockers.
Cheers
wayne

[rangieman]

Ther was no need to go Disco for that as the ARB centre for a Disco has the fine spline side gears. The disco axles are a lot stronger than the 10 spline and unless you plan on giving it an absolute hiding will probably be OK.
There are only 2 choices as far as selectable diff locks in oz now as far as I know and they are the ARB or Jacmac. Personally I would steer away from the auto lockers.
Cheers
wayne
And that was having a go :eek:, It was simply stating the obvious;)

[4.42doorrangie]

the car is more of a weekend warrior, and trips within victoria. I have set it up to retain some of the road going ability (but lets be honest its not a late model rangie). is there any advantage to dual shocks? Is it worth looking for a second hand locker or are most of them worn to far??

Simon

[r.over]

you'll need to weld an extra set of Shock mounts on the chassis to bolt on the 2nd set of dampers
The original Rangies on the rear had one shock on one side to the rear of the
diff and on the other side they had to the front. When they went to having both shocks mounted towards the front of the diff, they left the old rear mounting holes for the rear shock. So you do not have to weld brackets to the chassis. You use the existing holes and a standard top shock mount on one side and drill and sleeve the required holes on the other. You do however need to weld the mounting points onto the diff.

A bit more complicated for the front though. Need to frabricate new shock towers, etc.

[4.42doorrangie]

The original Rangies on the rear had one shock on one side to the rear of the
diff and on the other side they had to the front. When they went to having both shocks mounted towards the front of the diff, they left the old rear mounting holes for the rear shock. So you do not have to weld brackets to the chassis. You use the existing holes and a standard top shock mount on one side and drill and sleeve the required holes on the other. You do however need to weld the mounting points onto the diff.

A bit more complicated for the front though. Need to frabricate new shock towers, etc.

That makes alot of sense. I dunno wether its required. i mean its not a comp truck. thanks though

[DaveS3]

Do it - it is worth while. I have driven a Disco similar to mine with rear dual rears and it was a lot more stable with less body roll.

Dave.

[r.over]

That makes alot of sense. I dunno wether its required. i mean its not a comp truck. thanks though
The thing I noticed most about having the twin shocks was going over the spoon drains. In mine with single shocks every thing in the rear use to lift off the floor when taking the spoon drain at any speed. In a vehicle with twin shocks, everything seemed to stay in place. It actually felt quite strange, felt more like being on a roller coaster.

[Rangier Rover]

You will find the rear facing shock will bind before the forward one. In long travel arangements it gets worse as trailing arm radius tends to move forward;) Gets a bit scientific to get it right;)

[4.42doorrangie]

You will find the rear facing shock will bind before the forward one. In long travel arangements it gets worse as trailing arm radius tends to move forward;) Gets a bit scientific to get it right;)


So would it be better for the articulation to have the disco set up on the 2 door (2 on the front) or leave it with one opposite each other ???

[4.42doorrangie]

i forgot to ask, but i've seen some brackets made up for the top of the shocker mounts, that extend them up by 2 or so inches?? wouldnt they limi the travel???

[r.over]

i forgot to ask, but i've seen some brackets made up for the top of the shocker mounts, that extend them up by 2 or so inches?? wouldnt they limi the travel???

If you get a shock with an extra entended length of 4 inches, it means that the closed length is 2 inches longer. If you want to keep the full axle range of movement, you need to raise the shock mount by 2 inches to cater for the extra closed length. The alternative is to restrict the upward movement of the axle by dropping the bump stops by 2 inches. This causes issues with raising the centre of gravity, springs dislocating, etc.

[Rangier Rover]

So would it be better for the articulation to have the disco set up on the 2 door (2 on the front) or leave it with one opposite each other ???
Yep. Long travel Patrol EFS shocks with pin eye adapter and raised top mounts seem to work well:) Use a tape to work out closed hight then make brackets to suit.