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WhiteD3
11th July 2008, 12:16 PM
If there's a way to see others bcc'd on an Outlook email, I'd like to know how;).

Been sent some tender docs and would like to know who else is tendering.

Cheers.

Phoenix
11th July 2008, 01:01 PM
I think that is the point of a BCC< you can't find out.

p38arover
11th July 2008, 01:06 PM
That's why it's a Blind Carbon Copy.

stevo68
11th July 2008, 01:13 PM
Nice one Mark, would be good to know but finding out...none and buckleys :),

Regards

Stevo

Outlaw
11th July 2008, 01:21 PM
just finished some searching to see if a way or not but lokos like that info doesn't get embedded anywhere in the email so no way of finding it :( a shame really... but also promising to know ;)

D3Jon
11th July 2008, 02:13 PM
I distinctly remember a load of sh*t hitting the fan once at work because you CAN find out who the other BCC's are. So in outlook it's not that "blind", maybe this is if all the recipients are on the same Exchange server or something like that?

As I remember, if you receive a BCC from a third party (external to your company) you won't be able to see the the other recipients. But if some prat at work is BCCing (say to your boss) an email, then you can find out if you have a friendly administrator at work. :)

It used to be fun to look at MS Word doco's before Microsoft released a security patch, before that nearly everything typed could be seen if you used the show changes tool. Tender doco's had all the other companies names on them as well as all sorts of hidden notes! Great fun. :) To do this now though the document creator has to have selected "track changes" or be using an un-patched (and older) version of MS Word.

Jon

WhiteD3
11th July 2008, 02:38 PM
Well, that's a bummer:(. I was hoping it'd be something as easy as cracking Excel passwords. Always nice to know who you're competing against in tenders:angel:!

incisor
11th July 2008, 02:47 PM
you can get it out of the original senders sent mailbox :P

or the mail servers log file

but thats it

the mail server treats a BCC header totally different to a CC header and the BCC header isnt carried forward with the message.

HangOver
11th July 2008, 08:20 PM
On an internal mail server, (exchange or whatever) Sys. Admin can know all.
Hoestly if you don't want everyone to know what you are up to don't do it at work. You would be amazed what sane? adults get up to on a works email/internet and how easy it is to track it.:eek:

On external email you won't ever find out. Unless of course it was real heavy illegal stuff in which case they can be tracked back to the source but that would include assistance from the ISP/mail server owner, warrants, etc etc.

But then if you sent it through an anon remailer well you are invisible; and then if it's from a web account using a spoofed IP address through chained anon proxies, your a ghost, but I didn't say that ;)

HangOver
11th July 2008, 08:24 PM
ooops to answer you question, as inc said unless you had access to the actual mail server, then no.

p38arover
11th July 2008, 08:41 PM
But then if you sent it through an anon remailer well you are invisible; and then if it's from a web account using a spoofed IP address through chained anon proxies, your a ghost, but I didn't say that ;)

We've got problems on the Two Wheels forum with a bloke who keeps registering and causing problems. His IP address has been blocked but he works around it. Dunno how.

I must admit I haven't really looked into anonymisers.

HangOver
11th July 2008, 10:15 PM
We've got problems on the Two Wheels forum with a bloke who keeps registering and causing problems. His IP address has been blocked but he works around it. Dunno how.

I must admit I haven't really looked into anonymisers.

thats how he does it, webb ased ones are the easiest, just browse from within that site and that's it. As far as creating logins are concerned theres not a lot you can do about it.

Blknight.aus
11th July 2008, 10:46 PM
One way that used to work and still can on some BIG Isp is with 2 lines and modems, set up one as a static Ip and when you know what Ip has been banned tell it to take the banned Ip address then dial in with the Get IP from host setting turned on. Bingo you get the next IP address.

Some modems used to be configurable so that they would not negotiate past a certain point unless they had been assigned IP addresses other than the ones stored in a list OR assigned and IP adress in a certain range.

Its how I used to do it when I cared about that kind of stuff..

anoter newer one that Might work is if hes on wireless internet, once you change cells you change if you reset the connection.