D2 Questions

[disco_2008]

Hi,

I remember reading a while ago, something about the Diff lockers in the D2. Somewhere between a 2000 and 2002 model. I think they removed the function or something? I am looking at purchasing a second hand D2 and would like to confirm this,.

Also, has anyone got a PDF that details the DII specs? ie; approach, departure angles, dimensions, different options for the DII models.

And can anyone tell me the difference between a 2002 and 2004? I think they became a IIA or something?

any help will be great
Thanks

[simonl8353]

Hi,

I remember reading a while ago, something about the Diff lockers in the D2. Somewhere between a 2000 and 2002 model. I think they removed the function or something? I am looking at purchasing a second hand D2 and would like to confirm this,.

Also, has anyone got a PDF that details the DII specs? ie; approach, departure angles, dimensions, different options for the DII models.

And can anyone tell me the difference between a 2002 and 2004? I think they became a IIA or something?

any help will be great
Thanks

You'll get some more specific VIN number answers soon from this forum, I'm certain.

But to start with, the D2 had the Centre Diff Lock (CDL) function removed due to the introduction of Traction Control (TC).

However, in 2004 it was re-introduced.

More specifically only the 2001 to 2003 models had the CDL mechanism completely removed from the inside of the transmission, but the 1999 to early 2001 had the mechanism and spigot but not the lever to actuate it. This make re-instating the CDL slightly easuer in the early D2's. There is a 10mm stud on the top of the front driveshaft output. There are several companies that can provide a solution. A popular method is to buy the D2a lever and mechanism and retro-fit the functionality.

Late 2001-2003 have no 10mm stud to use for engaging the CDL and require a complete replacement of the front output section of the transfercase

more to follow...

[disco_2008]

Thanks for that. So with the late 2001-2003 that have no 10mm, any idea what a rough cost would be to install cdl? And also cost to install a front and rear cdl?
Thanks

[simonl8353]

The D2a lever and linkage is around $600 $700 new, second hand is rare but have seen them picked up for $300. Does not include fitting that can take around a day for the DIYer.
I dont know what the internals for tranfer box would cost, a thread was up quite recently on this but cannot remember from who.

In a nutcase....it can be done and you should escape for around $1000 give or take a bit for a 2002-2003 model.

[long stroke]

A mate of mine has a 2001 modal d2 with the thing on the case but it just needs a kit, i think he is going to make one;)
And another mate has a 2003 modal d2 with the whole thing from factory so i think in late 2003 they started putting them back into them.

TIM.

[2 rocks]

I'm going through this process at the moment. I wouldn't trust the VIN numbers - we did and ended up in the merde.
According to my VIN I should have had the spigot and internals - I have internals but no spigot. So I would recommend physically confirming the spigot is there. Hence have had to try to source a replacement front output casing for the transfer box.
Not as easy as it sounds as the casing needs to have the detent for the CDL and hole for the switch, although this can be "manufactured" - WildOne (Phill) provided great info on this.
Good luck!
Cheers
Mike

[Nicky]

My July 2003 TD5 has operational CDL etc. as standard.

[Redback]

This is from Ashcrofts Transmission web page


The early Disco II"s were not supplied with a centre diff lock function for the LT 230 transfer case but this has recently become an option when ordering a new vehicle.

The first Disco II"s had the diff lock capability on the transfer case but this was then phased out on the later ones.

We are able to supply both the linkage assembly and the parts to convert the transfer case if required.
The linkage is easy to fit, cable operated and very neat, cost is £ 245.

If you have the diff lock stud on your unit you will only require the linkage parts, to determine this you will need to find the transfer case serial number and check it starts with either 41D or 42D.

If it starts 61D, 62D, 69D or 70D then you will need the diff lock parts to go in the transfer case which are an additional £ 225.

* CURRENTLY OUT OF STOCK, WE ARE WORKING ON AN ALTERNATIVE*

Hope this clears it up, basicly if you get a D2 pre August 2002 you'll need to fit a CDL lever or lever and internals.

You have to remember in the UK the D2 was released in 1998 and in Australia it was released in 1999, so you need to look at the build date on the compliance plate.

Baz.

[disco_2008]

Thanks for all the info.

Does anyone have a spec sheet for the DII?
ie, Ground clearance, approach and departure angels. Wading depth?

And can anyone tell me the difference between the DII and DIIa (i think the a came out after 2003 - 2004)

Thanks

[Narangga]

Thanks for all the info.

Does anyone have a spec sheet for the DII?
ie, Ground clearance, approach and departure angels. Wading depth?

And can anyone tell me the difference between the DII and DIIa (i think the a came out after 2003 - 2004)

Thanks

From the Owners Handbook

Ground Clearance - not stated (but I have read it is 210mm)
Approach - 31 degrees
Departure - 19 (with towbar) 21 (without)
Wading depth - 500mm

This link to Redbook will give you when the variants were released.
Red Book AU : Your site for New and Used vehicle prices (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/index.php'make=LAND&family=LCDISCOVE)

Cheers,
Dale

[scarry]

i had an 01& then changed it for one built 1/04.apart from the cdl there are a few other differences.

headlights are way better...a vast improvement
some switches on dash are different ,as is speedo
torque rating is up for auto td5,but you dont notice any different,power is the same
generally car seems more refined & quieter inside
if you pick up a 'classic' it was a good value run out model.came in either 'town' or 'country' pack.mine was town....has leather,floor mats,reversing sensors...very handy,18' rims & a few other things i cant remember them all
i did a deal & kept the 16' rims as they are better off road.

the 04 for one is the best of the 3 td5's i have had....the last of any model is usually the best.

as mine are company cars i usually change them over every 3 yrs,but have held onto this one as i dont know what to raplace it with....but thats another storey

the specs...departure angles etc are all the same only differ depending on wether rear air suspension is fitted or not.... it is usually only on 7 seat models

hope the above helps

ther were a few other minor changes but i cant remember what they were:(

[disco_2008]

OK Great thanks for that.

Do you worry about the rear air suspension or just install a lift kit for the extra lift? Or you find the 21 deg depature OK?

[scarry]

the departure is more on sls models(self levelling suspenson) as i think it will rise the car if needed another 40mm or so at the rear.

the one i have now has standard coils & dont have any real problems,although dont do any very hard off roading.

depends what you intend to do ....sometimes there is never enough rear departure angle

[grover7488]

hi all. new to this forum. On my second DII. First was a 99 TD5 auto. CDL fitted. needed a 10mm spanner to operate. Current is an 03 V8 man. CDL and factory lever. its my understanding that 99-01 had the CDL (no lever, only left in for rolling road testing). somewhere in 02 it dissapeared and in the IIa (late 02 really an my03) it returned with the linkage and all.