tirfor

[muddy]

Hi all
I am looking at buying a Tirfor good for 5 tonne can someone steer me in the right direction for a good brand,approx price and where to get one from

Thanks
Maurice

[Slunnie]

You can pick up a warn from any 4WD outlet.

I'm just trying to save you money here, because all a Tirfor will do is teach you to never ever get stuck in a way that you have to ever use a hand winch again. :D

Sorry, that probably doesn't directly answer your question though.

[Narangga]

... all a Tirfor will do is teach you to never ever get stuck in a way that you have to ever use a hand winch again. :D ...

Now there's the voice of experience:eek:

[Aaron]

I have a 4.8t Big Haul. Its good quality IMO

Pics.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1034.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1035.jpg

I got it from here.. Big Haul Hand Winch - Hand Winches - Winches & Accessories - 4x4 Store Australia (http://www.4x4store.com.au/Big-Haul-Hand-Winch-pr-86714.html)


I bought it because I go out alone and I needed the versatility of being able to pull from any direction. Its not the effort required to use it thats the hard bit, Its the winding up of the 19mm steal cable thats the awkward/hard part. Im about to buy an old ride-on mower tyre that will just let me feed the cable into the centre of it, also it will make it easer to store in the car.

Another draw back would be getting stuck on a wet, rocky or muddy (or both) incline and having to set up in those situations. lugging the stuff to your winch point could be dangerous etc. At 20kg (for the winch) 25kg (for the cable) its light.

An Warn is only on my lists of "Wants" not "Needs" at this stage.

[waynep]

I looked around at these a while ago and thought the BigHaul brand ( made in the US ) was the best. Has an alloy case and a bit lighter than a Tirfor.
There are plenty of Chinese copies of the BigHaul, including the ARB Magnum, but not the same quality IMHO.
Places like 4WD Megastore stock the BigHaul around $460 or so
I was using mine today hauling out tree stumps - never used it in the bush but gets plenty of use around home ;):D

Get yourself a couple of rated shackles, two tree protectors, 20 metre winch extension strap, and a snatch block to go with it. Then you can set up for a double line pull if needed.

[Slunnie]

For those that hoard... there was a hand winch comparo done by 4WD monthly in Issue35 2002/01 Pg30. This compared a heap of hand winches and all of them were very very close from what I recall. It wasn't won by Tirfor, and for the life of me I cant recall who did win the comparo... perhaps black rat or something. Sorry, I dont have the magazine anymore to give the results.

Ooops, sorry the Big Haul won that year the best product from $250-500, so I'm assuming it was the Big Haul that won the comparo.

[papadad]

Hi all
I am looking at buying a Tirfor good for 5 tonne can someone steer me in the right direction for a good brand,approx price and where to get one from

Thanks
Maurice

Hi,
I've got a Turfor that I don't use, I have a capstan winch on my series 1,
the winch is rated 3500lb verticle and 5000 horizontal pull, it has a new steel cable. If you are still shopping, Email me and I'll send pics and etc.
Papadad kurandabed@tpg.com.au

[scarry]

had a tirfor for years and found it very good....is probably over 20 yrs old.my brother has it at the moment so dont know what model it is.like most good gear look after it & it will last for ever.good for pulling stumps out as well.like slunnie says not as convenient as say a warn but more versitile & very handy.

it has got us out of some very sticky situations

and yes winding up the mudy cable is a pain& then having to unwind it all again & clean it later is just as bad

[slug_burner]

I agree with Slunnie, the one thing that a hand which will teach you is not to get bogged. I used mine (tirfor about 2.5T) to recover some car wrecks from a state forest as part of a club activity to clean up the place. It was hard going just to get the winch where it was needed, it was draining to crank the handle. I certainly want only to have to use it sparingly.

It is good to be able to use around the place for non 4x4 activities, straightened an old wooden stable by pulling it back into square with the tirfor anchored into the garden.

[Blknight.aus]

Ive got both a 5 and a 2.5 t tirfor like jobbie.

Get the 2.4t a snatch block some shackels and an extention strap.

the smaller cable is easier to handle/stow and in my case all up the whole kit of the 2.4t jobbie (tirfor, cabe, shackles snatch and extention rope) are lighter (but not by much) than the 5t one with the same base length of cable.

apart from being smaller easier to carry and more flexable If I have to I can run the 2 lengths and recover from twice as far away.

[rovercare]

You can pick up a warn from any 4WD outlet.

I'm just trying to save you money here, because all a Tirfor will do is teach you to never ever get stuck in a way that you have to ever use a hand winch again. :D

Sorry, that probably doesn't directly answer your question though.

^^^^^^^^^That:D

[Outlaw]

Shoot a PM Muddy to MickG... have a feeling he had one he was selling since putting on his electric one ;)

[rovercare]

Shoot a PM Muddy to MickG... have a feeling he had one he was selling since putting on his electric one ;)

Funny that:angel:

[aloa9061]

I have the Bighaul and have used it often.....

The reason Slunnie does not like it is he is a slightly undersized little eskimo and spent till 1am pulling a friedn out of the bush in the rain.....

Anyway really usefull for pulling sideways, putting cars back on their wheels and for safety when repairing cars on hillsides.

[Slunnie]

I have the Bighaul and have used it often.....

The reason Slunnie does not like it is he is a slightly undersized little eskimo and spent till 1am pulling a friedn out of the bush in the rain.....

Anyway really usefull for pulling sideways, putting cars back on their wheels and for safety when repairing cars on hillsides.
:lol2:

This is the truth. :(

I still think that 2nd gear high range with right hand lock would have seen us out of there before it got dark and saved breaking an axle! :D

[Nathan]

I used my Tirfor - once...

Now I have a Warn :cool:

Nathan

[Aaron]

Why get electric when you can get the far cooler hydraulic option ? :P

[Blknight.aus]

why go hydraulic when you can have shaft driven....

why winch at all when you could just call in a silorsky super heavy lifter?

why call in a heavy lifter when you could just bolt on 5 or 6 JATO rockets and just jump jet the thing out of there...

why bother with the jump jets when you could just hire the space shuttle, tie a line to that have them drag that up to the moon and do an orbit or two then tie the other end to the landy and wait for the rotational differences in orbits to tension the rope and pull the rover out....

why bother with that when you could just wait it out and let environmental erosion and evolution remove the obstacle from around the landrover and then just drive it out..


or you could just buy a tirfor and do a little exercise....

I like the tirfor type winches... They're like the women i like Cheap, flexable and when Ive gotten what I want to get done with them done Im all smiles and sweat.

[lardy]

I have a 4.8t Big Haul. Its good quality IMO

Pics.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1034.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1035.jpg

I got it from here.. Big Haul Hand Winch - Hand Winches - Winches & Accessories - 4x4 Store Australia (http://www.4x4store.com.au/Big-Haul-Hand-Winch-pr-86714.html)


I bought it because I go out alone and I needed the versatility of being able to pull from any direction. Its not the effort required to use it thats the hard bit, Its the winding up of the 19mm steal cable thats the awkward/hard part. Im about to buy an old ride-on mower tyre that will just let me feed the cable into the centre of it, also it will make it easer to store in the car.

Another draw back would be getting stuck on a wet, rocky or muddy (or both) incline and having to set up in those situations. lugging the stuff to your winch point could be dangerous etc. At 20kg (for the winch) 25kg (for the cable) its light.

An Warn is only on my lists of "Wants" not "Needs" at this stage.

did you do the tyre thing for the cable ??
If so any pics

[Barefoot Dave]

Or you could go halfway ; ))

shudder
YouTube- Portable Winch QuickMount

[disco2hse]

Or you could go halfway ; ))

shudder
YouTube- Portable Winch QuickMount (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnpvaswu9PM&feature=related)

Good grief that thing is frightening :eek:

[PhilipA]

After having a small Tirfor (T614?) when I used to offroad a Type 3 VW I too vowed that I would avoid them.
The main problem is the weight and bulk of the winch as well as the cable.

In 1988 while posted to Thailand I bought a WARN portable 5000lb winch which came in a steel box with plastic lid and can be used via an included receiver or via an equaliser through two fitted D shackles.
It also came with an extension wire to the rear of the car with Anderson plugs, and a short cable to be attached to the battery for front pulls. so it can be used in all positions including off the chassis if necessary. It fits neatly in the footwell behind the drivers seat, held down of course by a nylon strap and stuff can be stacked on top of it..

I recently changed it to Dyneema and I reckon it's lighter than a Tirfor and cable.

The funny bit is I have only used it in anger once to retieve a guy who had fallen off a causeway in the Watagans, and it very effectively pulled the car sideways until pulling a couple of trees over.

But I reckon its the duck's guts and can do anything you want through a snatch block though slowly.

There are receiver portable mounts advertised in the mags, and a cheap 9000Lb winch on one of those receivers, plus maybe drilling some holes for shackles and some cable extensions , with some Dyneema would be the go and able to pull from anywhere on the car.And be lighter and less bulky than a tirfor and MUCH MUCH less work.
Regards Philip A

[Barefoot Dave]

Not as scary as the one I was looking for. German or dutch clip of a similair system that just used a flat plat with an oblong cutout that dropped over the ball. Oh, and it was a capstan!

[Tank]

Tirfor is a brand name for the ORIGINAL Tirfor winch, all others are copies and none are better, every construction/mine site I have ever worked as a Rigger the Tirfor brand was the only winch on site.
If you buy a snatch block (largest dia. and correct groove size for the wire rope used) you can reduce the effort required to operate the winch by 50%, BUT always attach the snatch block to the vehicle or the load to be moved, run the cable through the snatch block and back to your anchor point, it will make a hard job more bearable, Regards Frank.

[land864]

Yep

In my recent post of ' Did they muck up?" , a vehicle mounted winch of any kind would not have been much good. Vehicles could not position themselves near enough on the icy track to be able to help.
The Tirfor did the job by just pulling the rear sideways across the icy track to get the stuck vehicle lined up.
I've also seen them use to belay a vehicle ( that is hold it upright , give a side pull or prevent it from going any further into a bad situation) during a winch recovery.