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spdterence
22nd July 2008, 11:00 PM
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I have had my 1985 Range Rover for a few months now and it has been fine. No problems touch wood.
Now we are planning a long trip - mostly all road stuff to the snow and back via the long way. I will have my wife and 3 sons with me. The boys are all young whipper snappers. Good for holding a torch - only not for long.:D
Anyways - what spare parts do you recommend I carry. Aside from towing a complete Rangie behind me - what are the little show stoppers that don't take up too much room. Fan belt and fuses aside.
Would really appreciate your collective wisdom on this. Cheers Tezza
RR 1985 3.5 dedicated LPG LT77
Rangier Rover
23rd July 2008, 06:53 AM
Wheel Bearings, Uni Joints, Rad and heater and fuel hose, Vulcanizing Tape, Cable ties. Hose Clamps. Water Pump, . A spare coil and Points dizzy , HT Leads. Basic eleco kit and wire, If an Auto a spare starter. Some thing to repair a damaged fuel tank or Rad. Tyre repair kit, plenty of water. Get a soft bag and stuff all this in it as milk crates are a pain. If you can get them spare rear shafts also. Being strait gas make sure you have fuel range if you go exploreing.
This is only a guide and some of what I carry in my rangie. You will more than likely not need it all . I asume you have a few tools. Cheers Tony.
mike 90 RR
23rd July 2008, 07:57 AM
1: Dizzy cap & Rotor button + (2 long spark leads)
2: If you have a electronic dizzy // go past the wreckers and pickup a spare "spark amplifier"
3: At least the bottom radiator hose
4: Set of fan belts
as these are the main items that can't be bought in the middle of no-where
The rest is just orderable or can be bought/salvaged in local towns
Add a standard tool kit & what Rangier Rover suggest's
Survival tip 1
If the radiator springs a leak in the middle of no-where and it's down to last options ... then beatup a egg and toss it down the radiator (engine cold) .. the egg will block the hole when the engines warms up ..... Did this to a bush basher and lasted 2 years :D
tip 2
Silicon will fill cracks on exhaust manifolds and survive quite fine / Years in fact (much to my surprise)
Psimpson7
23rd July 2008, 08:05 AM
also:
spare tube and tyre levers if you cant fit a second spare, as well as one of those 'worm' repair kits.
spare bulbs.
spare fluids.
Enough tools to be able to change any parts you take
Rangier Rover
23rd July 2008, 12:38 PM
Has it got duel batery set up? If not a boaster pack may save the day. Make sure you know how the solenoids on the gas work incase one plays games on the way. Take a small can of start ya bastard as a wiff of this can help trouble shoot fuel problem if it wont start. Cheers Tony
dungarover
23rd July 2008, 03:25 PM
This is what I carry on most trips although I don't do any long-range touring and mostlt 4WD trips within 4-5 houtrs of Brisbane. I have a 1990 Rangie Vogue SE so this applies to my vintage of Range Rover-
Ignition coil
Fuel pump
Electronic dizzy module (on side of the dizzy, had one crap itself one, glad I had a spare too)
Rotor button
Dizzy cap
Stub axle (pair)
CV joints (pair usually, broke one now only have the one)
Starter motor (can't push start an auto :()
Complete set of spanners in metric and AF
Complete set of sockets also in both metric and AF
allen key for the starter motor (learned this the hard way once, don't ask :oops2:)
Electrical wire (mostly 4-6mm) Crimping tool and pliers of course
WD40
Tube of silastic and 'liquid steel (more putty, great for holed radiators or fuel tanks).
Screwdrivers in various lengths
multimeter
fuses (from 5-40 amp)
complete set of fan belts (old ones but still good)
Engine oil
coolant and water of course (pre-mixed usually)
Diff oil
ATF fluid
brake fluid
Ezy-blleder for the brakes
Tyre repair kit (still got the new wrapping and I bought it 2 years ago)
Spare set of wheel nuts for 1 wheel
Shockie bushes
wheel bearing nuts and washers
Zip ties (fix anything :twisted::twisted:)
hose clamps for all radiator and cooling system hoses
Spare top and bottom radiator hoses
Globes for brake and indicators
Workshop manual (the 'bible' as I like to call it)
That's about it I think. Luckily I never use all of that but the day you don't carry it, you'll need it :( Others may carry less or more than me dunno but I just like to be prepared. Just reading some of the other posts has given me some more ideas as spares :)
Trav
PhilipA
23rd July 2008, 03:56 PM
Well seeing its an 85 with dedicated LPG, I guess that you won't be going anywhere TOO remote.
I would change my belts and hoses before going if you haven't in the last few years.
Full set of belts
fuel pump, fuel filter
dizzy cap, rotor, plug wire
ECU ( overkill but I have one and its small)
wire, crimp connectors, spark plug, bulbs,
multimeter
selleys epoxy dough
2 pack epoxy
super glue, silicone
tubeless repair kit with several strings and glue( tyres and wheels of camper compatable)
alternator( I have 2)
Spanners for all conceivable uses including a bloody big shifter for the towball nut.
spare rear shock, front shock, bushes
wheel bearing seals X 2
jumper leads( for someone else)
snatch strap, tow rope, bull bag, shackles, tow points painted red
various zip ties
jacking plate( 2 bits of 5 ply glued together), jack confirmed to work
bush saw, spade sharpened and fitted with long handle, sharp axe
I do not carry tyre levers as I have tubeless tyres and alloy rims.
wheel bearings will probably not stop you, if you make sure they are well greased ( so do a complete service before you go, including checking all oils. This includes the swivels. I dipped mine with a zip tie . repack the wheel bearings if they haven't been done for a while, or better take out the seal between the axle and hub and let em run in oil.)
Regards Philip A
spdterence
23rd July 2008, 06:11 PM
WOW - perfect - that is some of the best info.
Thanks heaps.
Of course I will get d old girl a manicure before we go - but these items are easy to find and I can sort out most of these potential problems on the road I guess should we have any.
Brilliant. Thanks Tezza.
Rangier Rover
23rd July 2008, 07:33 PM
Opps' Im not sure a spare fuel pump will help you:angel: May help someone else though;)
spdterence
23rd July 2008, 10:33 PM
Thanks again for all the advice.
Tony - you mentioned carrying uni's? Now it is awhile since I changed one but they used to be a bit of a bugger and required circlip pliers and at least a decent vice / anvil and a big hammer. Are the RR's somehow easy to change?
Also you mentioned rear shafts. I guess you mean half shafts / axles? And not prop shaft / tail shafts? I suppose it would be easier to carry a spare tail shaft but then my experience is that unis normally give you some kind of warning - pinging or rattling or something - but then again I am new at this.
Do the half shafts just 'let go' like that? or do you need to punish them to snap?
I have made up a list of these bits. I guess I will try to cruise past a wreckers and grab most of them. Really appreciate the advice!
Thanks Tezza
RaZz0R
23rd July 2008, 11:20 PM
I think knowing the condition of some of these items before setting off for such a trip will be more then worth it...
shouldn't have to carry so many spares surley...
alternator
fuel pump
Shockie bushes
Starter motor
CV joints
Fuel pump
Dizzy cap & Rotor button
I was kinda thinking all this stuff would be 100% before you went for a trip... or do these things normally just break??? Or is it just a serious case of don't get caught out?
Like if you were to do a trip to high country... would you guys seriously take all those spares?
Rangier Rover
23rd July 2008, 11:50 PM
Thanks again for all the advice.
Tony - you mentioned carrying uni's? Now it is awhile since I changed one but they used to be a bit of a bugger and required circlip pliers and at least a decent vice / anvil and a big hammer. Are the RR's somehow easy to change?
Also you mentioned rear shafts. I guess you mean half shafts / axles? And not prop shaft / tail shafts? I suppose it would be easier to carry a spare tail shaft but then my experience is that unis normally give you some kind of warning - pinging or rattling or something - but then again I am new at this.
Do the half shafts just 'let go' like that? or do you need to punish them to snap?
I have made up a list of these bits. I guess I will try to cruise past a wreckers and grab most of them. Really appreciate the advice!
Thanks Tezza I meant half shafts. If you it not had it long you may not know how it has been driven before:eek: ON the tyres in your pic if not driven in anger should be fine:) No weel spinning;) If you blow the rear diff(The spider pin takes leave) you will need a cordless drill a 1/4 bolt sealant and swap front diff:twisted: Only if up hill:) Seriously there is no warning on shafts but spider pin can wear and make a click sound when it snaps. Just go easy if you on your own and it will be fine:) With 4x4 you have a spare drive.
To be honest I've never broken an axle even in my 4.4 2 door on 33"tyres. But have spat a spider pin:angel: Uni joints are cheap:) The diff or transfer make a great vice;) The Uni is not to bad to change under a Rangie. You will need a Flogometer, a Drift and depends on C clip what removal tool. A skilfull scewdriver can do some good . C Clip remover is better:) The pre 86 CVs wont break before your 10spline axles;) Don't drive it in anger:D It will be fine. :D
PhilipA
24th July 2008, 06:04 AM
Oh I forgot a couple of things.
If you have a 38A, 322, D3,D2 maybe,then a sat phone may be the best thing to call a dealer or specialist for help.
Seriously,I also have NRMA premium cover.
I wouldn't take driveshafts etc. You have to stop somewhere and there comes a point where the weight will cause more problems than the parts can solve. If something happens to stop you it will be something you haven't got the part for. Murphy's Law.
Regards Philip A
POD
24th July 2008, 07:47 PM
Spare alternator, spare starter motor, spare axles??? Stagger me, the man has to fit the family in somewhere! It's been said many times that the reason people break springs on the canning is cos they're carrying spare springs...
I agree that the items mentioned above should be in good shape before you go. I too have 2 alternators so have redundancy, but can't see myself carrying a spare one if I didn't. Got to draw the line somewhere. The most valuable thing you can carry is a lot of knowledge and the ability to improvise. And zip ties.
Back when we started outback travelling, a mate advised me to carry some KneadIt- an epoxy filler/adhesive. Worth it's weight in gold.
Like Phillip said, top cover is well worth it (RACV /NRMA or whatever you're state equivalent).
The above notwithstanding, my spares kit always includes the best couple of brake pads from my last worn-out set (front + rear) in case I get metal-to-metal unexpectedly.
PhilipA
25th July 2008, 07:53 AM
The above notwithstanding, my spares kit always includes the best couple of brake pads from my last worn-out set (front + rear) in case I get metal-to-metal unexpectedly.
Forgot, ditto.
Another anal person!
I once lost a rear to the metal on Fraser Island. I had a spare . Fixed in the main street of Tewantin, but cost me a disc.
Regards Philip A
oysters
25th July 2008, 12:32 PM
One peice of equipment that I found invaluable, is a small block of wood, in my case its treated pine 100mm square by about 160mm long which I have bound with string to make it even stronger.
Its uses are multiple and I will give you just a few, a wheel chock, extra high lift for the jack, for jamming in areas, a suspension travel bumper and the list goes on.
It does not take up much room, mine lives with the jack.
good luck and have a good time.
abaddonxi
25th July 2008, 01:02 PM
Nitrile disposable gloves, zip ties, garbage bags, rags, tarp to lie on, funnel, clear hose for bleeding stuff, coathanger, hand cleaner.
Small stuff.
Simon
Rangier Rover
25th July 2008, 10:04 PM
This is what I find mysself up against when on long trips and camping:o Have two kids:)The spares or touring kit is under all that stuff:eek:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9804&stc=1&d=1216990624 As you won't be going to far from civilization you won't be so self reliant if a drama happens. So don't get to hung up on sht loads of spares.
Most outlets will send stuff to you when you are traveling as NRMAetc will tow it if it can't be sorted.
Have a great trip. Cheers Tony.
spdterence
28th July 2008, 11:48 PM
She'll be right mate - if it all goes south, it will make a great story to tell the grandkids!. The best stories of my Dad by far are the ones where we are fixing rotten old machinery in 40 deg heat! Like the time when.................
I tell you - the bugger is so funny - now!
thanks again fellas - Terry
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