Second hand freelanders... Whatcha looking for?

[Blknight.aus]

Got the phonecall from a guy at work and he wants to buy a freelander (im thinking hes after a freelander 1 because he only wants about rav4 size)
the rough wants list is

removable hard top
good range (I think hed prefer a diesel)
manual
comfortable
able enough to do fraiser and the likes...

I think hes on the right track but Im not ofey enough with them to know all the common faults by heart. I know about the viscus, the rear diff mounts and that the early 1.6l's had problems but thats about as far as it goes for me.

Can I get a helping hand.

OR if you know someone thats selling one that fits the bill.

[dobbo]

removable hard top
good range (I think hed prefer a diesel)
manual
comfortable
able enough to do fraiser and the likes...



You bought a vehicle that fits all the criteria off me last week.

Failing that

IHMO try and find a Feroza, they're a lot cheaper than a Freelander, almost indestructacle and fit almost all of the criteria, I don't know if the Feroza got offered a diesel but the LWB version had one and as with all versions of the vehicle, the Rocky's run Hilux stuff so a Hilux diesel should bolt right in. This outcome would also mean a bit of beer money coming your way for the said conversion.

[Shonky]

IHMO try and find a Feroza, they're a lot cheaper than a Freelander, almost indestructacle and fit almost all of the criteria, I don't know if the Feroza got offered a diesel but the LWB version had one and as with all versions of the vehicle, the Rocky's run Hilux stuff so a Hilux diesel should bolt right in. This outcome would also mean a bit of beer money coming your way for the said conversion.

As far as I'm aware Dobbo, the Rocky is the Diesel Feroza.

I have a mate who has had three Rocky's and even I was surprised by how tough these little trucks are.

[dobbo]

As far as I'm aware Dobbo, the Rocky is the Diesel Feroza.

I have a mate who has had three Rocky's and even I was surprised by how tough these little trucks are.



Feroza has a removable roof, Rocky doesn't (unless you own an angle grinder)

[Xavie]

I had a feroza. I should of never got rid of it. Awesome vehicle. Rode like a Defender though. 235,000 on it with only a slight gearbox problem which could of been easily fixed. Economy was between 7-9.5 per 100 litres no matter what sort of driving.

Sorry I know it is off your topic.
*Edit*

Sun roof comes off in seconds and easily goes back on. The rear part was harder but I'd take it off when going around paddocks.

[101RRS]

The question related to Freelanders not Ferozas - I guess if he was after one he would have asked questions on them.

Early Freelanders - go diesel - stay right away from the petrols though if they were going to fail they would have now - so have either been scrapped or fixed.

Problems - IRD ratio is wrong causing the VC fail and lock causing transmission windup and then IRD failure - happens around 160,000km so if the car has higher mileage it is likely that it has all been replaced - newer IRDs are OK.

The front rear diff mount does fail but is not an issue - lets you know with the occassional knock but are cheap and easy to replace in situ.

Other problems are few - standard 3 amigos, ususal landie issues with electrics but nothing major. Mine did have the issue with the IRD but nothing else major - now has 240,000km - engine is a gem - 45mpg at 110kph, 35 around down. Top speed is over 160kph and will cruise 120kph easily. Has a 2 tonne towing capacity and will do it at a comfortable speed though hills do slow it.

Cam belt MUST be done at every 80,000k and are time consuming.

Get XEDI has ABS, TC and HD - base models (Di) do not have these but can be optioned

My pick would be a post 2000 TD4 - slightly more efficent common rail engine, IRD issues are gone and in some models the auto is also available. Has a chain for the cams.

V6 - I know less about - generally OK though not as reliable as diesel and chews fuel.

Garry

[beforethevision]

I fully agree with Gary,

The diesels are by far the way to go.
Early L series Diesels are the toughest, and mostly manual. The later TD4 is a little better on fuel but manual GB's are rare.

The difference between a feroza and a freelander is comfort.

Also get a high(ish) model, the TC, HDC ABS etc is well worth it, even on the early ones.

VC failure incurring IRD damage is pretty rare, all that i know of the early VC's fail due to queer seals letting dirt in to bearings.

The freelander will do Fraser easy, i have had mine there a number of times, and went well past orchid beach.

The CV's do sometimes have issues, to test them, sut it in first and try a slow u-turn at full throttle, worn CV's will click loudly.

Cheers!

[weeds]

sit it in first and try a slow u-turn at full throttle, worn CV's will click loudly.
Cheers!

hoon....:twisted::D:p

[Scouse]

VC failure incurring IRD damage is pretty rare, You obviously haven't spent time in a dealership ;).

Virtually guaranteed to do the IRD or the rear diff at 80000km :(.
(early cars)

[101RRS]

I have to agree with Scouse - but as most of these are now 8-10 years of age it has either happened and the lot has been fixed or the damaged VC was detected early and replaced saving the IRD.

However, the failure is normally slow with symptoms - I now check mine every 5000km.

Garry

[beforethevision]

You obviously haven't spent time in a dealership ;).

Virtually guaranteed to do the IRD or the rear diff at 80000km :(.
(early cars)

I havent spent time (in that way) at a dealer, but at mechanics yes. I agree they fail, i am simply suggesting that the ones i have seen were replaced due to bearing failure before the VC itself locked up. The issue of locking up seems to have occurred to a few tho from the sounds.

Cheers!

[Matplat]

However, the failure is normally slow with symptoms - I now check mine every 5000km.

Garry

hey all, new to the game....

when you say "check" the VC, what do you do? I havn't yet taken the plunge with an FL but just want to know what I am letting myself in for!

[101RRS]

hey all, new to the game....

when you say "check" the VC, what do you do? I havn't yet taken the plunge with an FL but just want to know what I am letting myself in for!

Read this - it is about six threads down
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/freelander/65337-freelander-constant4x4.html

[Matplat]

Nice 'n' easy, thanks!

[Matplat]

The CV's do sometimes have issues, to test them, sut it in first and try a slow u-turn at full throttle, worn CV's will click loudly.

Cheers!

how do you do a slow u-turn at full throttle?:confused:

[beforethevision]

hahahaha

Everyone brings that up. First gear, 1000rpm, full steering lock, then foot to the floor.

Cheers!

[mjm295]

hahahaha

Everyone brings that up. First gear, 1000rpm, full steering lock, then foot to the floor.

Cheers!

Cluth at bite or fully engaged? Or should I transplant an auto box just for the test?:o:wasntme:

[Blknight.aus]

foot off the clutch.

your listening for the siezed VC kicking the inside rear wheel round due to the difference in diff ratios the autos do it pretty well from a stand still the manuals need that little bit of motion so that youve got the engine making usable power.

a slightly better description.

take off easy in first gear.
set and maintain 1000ish rpm
crank it round to lock and then
step on it.