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John W
28th July 2008, 08:33 PM
Just wondering if anyone has had experience with lifting Disco 2 air bag suspension using spacers under the bags. How does it handle on the black top and do you need any other modifications like shocks, bump stops or adjusting suspension rods?

I have put king coils in the front and very happy with the ride and lift but now it looks down in the back.

Ricey
28th July 2008, 08:39 PM
Yes, go for spaces rather than re-calibrating the bags to ride higher. I did that first & found the airbags 'topping out' while off road. I had longer bilstein shockers fitted at the same time as the spacers & had the SLS returned to the correct height. Bump stops usually come with a spacer kit, mine was from 4x4 intelligence in Melbourne.

John W
28th July 2008, 08:49 PM
Thanks, does it still ride well at speed on the black top and do you recall the model of Bilstein that you used

Ricey
28th July 2008, 09:01 PM
Thanks, does it still ride well at speed on the black top and do you recall the model of Bilstein that you used

It does ride well, although I think the biggest detriment in handling has come from the 265/70 tyres, particularly when breaking hard on uneven surface. I find it unpredictable on the odd occasion.
The Billies parts are
rear - BE5B995
front - BE56046

DI5CO
28th July 2008, 09:05 PM
I am looking at doing the same. Any idea on cost? ( I know this can vary depending on the quality of shocks) but an average cost. How do the spacers work in conjunction with the height sensors? Can you fit it yourself with basic skills?
Dave.

feral
28th July 2008, 09:16 PM
It does ride well, although I think the biggest detriment in handling has come from the 265/70 tyres, particularly when breaking hard on uneven surface. I find it unpredictable on the odd occasion.

Have you checked the height difference between front and rear?

When I did my lift it was unpredictable and it darted over the road. Skitterish comes to mind. My front appeared to be higher than the back.

After searching for a solution on here you will find if you raise the rear higher than the front it will handle better.

My solution was to put in a 10mm spacer in the back and it transformed the car. It is very stable now.

Ricey
28th July 2008, 09:23 PM
Hi Dave, have a look at Products (http://www.4x4intelligence.com.au/products.htm) for pricing on the spacer kit. They have supplied me with excellent instructions for installation in the past, but I'm not much good with a welder (new bumpstops) so I had it installed. There is also (from memory) different height sensor parts for the SLS included. I had Coopers source the Billies for me & fit, I'm naturally lazy!

Ricey
28th July 2008, 09:25 PM
Have you checked the height difference between front and rear?

When I did my lift it was unpredictable and it darted over the road. Skitterish comes to mind. My front appeared to be higher than the back.

After searching for a solution on here you will find if you raise the rear higher than the front it will handle better.

My solution was to put in a 10mm spacer in the back and it transformed the car. It is very stable now.

Thanks Feral - I'll check the measurements when I get the car back.

harlie
29th July 2008, 07:23 PM
If you fit spacers you have to also fit longer arms for the sensors. The default height is 140 or 141mm so with spacers and no sensor mod the car will adjust to the sensor height. What ever you do don't just mod the sensor to stretch the standard bags - the bag won't last - they are designed to run at a particular length.

There are longer bags available - this would improve travel length as well.

John W
1st August 2008, 05:56 PM
There are longer bags available - this would improve travel length as well.[/QUOTE]

That sounds like a better idea than spacers, any idea where you go to find longer bags?

Pedro_The_Swift
1st August 2008, 06:00 PM
Arnotts.

Ricey
1st August 2008, 06:09 PM
Give Bruce Davis a call in sydney, I believe they are supplying larger bags.

Baffle
3rd August 2008, 04:43 AM
If you get the spacer kit from mick at intelligent design, the adapters for the sls are supplied, the system works fine and the bags operate in there original position. When you push the hight button to raise the back end you will find that the original shocks are at there limit so any bump there is no up travel. My shocks at the back are 650mm extended so Im after longer bags for extra down travel, at the moment using extension limiting straps.
A shock at 600mm ext would bring the bag to its limit,+ brake lines (all discos being the same ?). the original shock is 585mm but that 15mm makes all the dif.
Hope this helps

feral
3rd August 2008, 08:40 AM
........ My shocks at the back are 650mm extended so Im after longer bags for extra down travel, at the moment using extension limiting straps.
A shock at 600mm ext would bring the bag to its limit,+ brake lines (all discos being the same ?). the original shock is 585mm but that 15mm makes all the dif.
Hope this helps

For a D2 just remember that anywhere between 600 - 650mm and beyond for your shock length, you will need to extend the ABS lines as well.

Unless you want these ripped out at full articulation. :p