Stump hit floor

[Rangier Rover]

I don't post here often but as I have 2 S11As still in action I thought I would share todays exitement:eek: I was in a rough padock on a slope with sun in eyes looking for calf (Its mother dumped it) and right front tyre flicked up a tree stump the hit with such a force it bent the floor up under clutch and brake. Also managed to bind accelerator so ended up on full noise till ign off:eek: I was in to higher gear for engine to hold so as no gears or brakes had to opt hand brake :eek: to try to slow it as slope now was 45 and rocks . When I touched the hand brake as I was on a side slope the high side tyres locked and started to spin backwards as diff does. IT took off:eek::eek: Now had to much speed to bail so had to ride it out. Some how we made it to the level ground but it got a bit sideways and landys dont have a good lock for that:eek:. I sure shocked me. 1st big fright I have ever had as I seemed to last for an hour so a lot of thoughts went by.
We threw a few things out so will have to go back and find. Once the dust settled I got a lump of wood and bashed the floor down to get use of things again and picked up the calf:) We will see what the damage is to the 2a at daylight :o. Cheers Tony

[JDNSW]

One of the fairly serious design problems with Series 2/2a/3 Landrovers is that sticks thrown up by the front wheel are stopped from simply sliding away by the outrigger. If the stick is the right length and strong enough, it will do what happened in your case, or if thin enough, is likely to bend up the footwell floor and come through the gap opened between the floor and the footwell, sometimes to the detriment of the driver.

While the position looks unchanged on the 90/110/Defender, in practice I have never encountered this - I think this is because the wheel is further back, so that a stick up against the floor and behind the wheel is much more vertical and hence just tips over rather than being thrust up as with Series vehicles. (Series 1 is less of a problem due to the different outrigger position due to the need to clear the under floor pedals).

John

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Tony

Glad you're O.K. sounds like a few moments you won't want to repeat too often.

Nice to hear that the SIIa is still in use though.

Diana

[Shonky]

Sounds like a wild ride!

Pics?

[Rangier Rover]

Sounds like a wild ride!

Pics? Are you saying to reinact it so I can take pics:eek: Hell no;) Or you want a pic of aftermath:) When things like this happen the last thought is pics, though I can still see it:eek:
Had a look at the ol girl and not to much damage:) 1 broken U bolt, 2 torn engine mounts, The floor, sheared 3 studs off back plate on hand brake:eek:. Some how the chassis and springs didn't give out. It is a 1969 88" with axle trusses. Bloody strong. Not much to show but will try to get some pics later Now verry ocupied with 70 calving heifers:o Cheers Tony

[Rangier Rover]

Tony

Glad you're O.K. sounds like a few moments you won't want to repeat too often.

Nice to hear that the SIIa is still in use though.

Diana Thaks Diana, I have had a few bolt here before but this one was the worst:( Just can't be to carefull. Had I been a a lower gear would not have happened in the 1st place:) Tony

[Rangier Rover]

One of the fairly serious design problems with Series 2/2a/3 Landrovers is that sticks thrown up by the front wheel are stopped from simply sliding away by the outrigger. If the stick is the right length and strong enough, it will do what happened in your case, or if thin enough, is likely to bend up the footwell floor and come through the gap opened between the floor and the footwell, sometimes to the detriment of the driver.

While the position looks unchanged on the 90/110/Defender, in practice I have never encountered this - I think this is because the wheel is further back, so that a stick up against the floor and behind the wheel is much more vertical and hence just tips over rather than being thrust up as with Series vehicles. (Series 1 is less of a problem due to the different outrigger position due to the need to clear the under floor pedals).

John You are spot on there John. As I have 2 Ser1s here and they have only pushed the floor up as I was to lazy to bolt them domn. I just stamp on it and keep going. Have had timder fowl up the linkages under neath at times. The chance of an injury are high:eek:. AS for the S11s and S111s they all have done this but not to this extent. Tony

[Shonky]

Where abouts are you Tony?

[Rangier Rover]

Where abouts are you Tony?Near Coolah in high country

[Shonky]

Nice spot out there. Bit cold this morning were we?

[Rangier Rover]

Nice spot out there. Bit cold this morning were we? Cold:eek:We have had 3 black frost in a row:( Is a nice spot here for sure
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9889&stc=1&d=1217473605.


My ancestors have been here since 1st settlers and is what has made me stay with it.:) I miss the tools a bit but have my own bit here to do with a fleet of 50

[Shonky]

oh my!

Now that's beautiful!

[JDNSW]

Looks a lot greener than it does here! Got some of next door's sheep in my front paddock again today - I think they are getting hungry, and I have been destocked since 2003, so the pickings are better on my side of the fence!

John

[Shonky]

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PanoramicCrop.jpg

He's looking greener than us also, John. You're out towards Dubbo aren't you?

We aren't doing too bad. Mum has returned to Nursing for a while so we are only running "dinner stock" :twisted:

I would love to get back into Cattle. I reckon 60 steers were less work than the handful of psychotic goats we have now... :mad:

[JDNSW]

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He's looking greener than us also, John. You're out towards Dubbo aren't you?
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Yes - between Dubbo & Dunedoo.

John

[Rangier Rover]

Yes - between Dubbo & Dunedoo.

John I go to Dubbo a fair bit so go past your place. I can't believe the difference in such a short distance. I hope you get a season soon:) Tony

[Rangier Rover]

I have some pics of S11a thet don't look much exept when I had to tow a 60 series Landcruiser 2H model for a contractor who is here at the moment. Of course I have given him a hard time over it:D Will post up later as busy now:( Tony

[Rangier Rover]

Phone camera:mad: Useless in bad light. Ill post them but they are bad pics:(
Towing a Toyota that would not start:D
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9903&stc=1&d=1217514966

The sad Floor:( after bashing down with wood. All the bolts sheared off:eek:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9904&stc=1&d=1217514996

This is why the front end held out. Yes the RHS spring is newish
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9906&stc=1&d=1217515085

The original 2.25 with duct tape on inlet:angel: Will sort soon. Has been a great engine. Has had the O ring put in top of carby body to fix rich idle. I have rebuilt the dizzy (Have Lathe:D) Many comment on how well it runs for its age. It has good torque from idle up and does not miss a beat. Always starts:)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9905&stc=1&d=1217515032

Worst part is the paint and guards:( Should give it a birthday soon:) Tony

[JDNSW]

For comparison with the earlier pictures here is a picture from my boundary looking south over the next door neighbour's towards Elong - you can see the top of the silos among the trees. Not quite as green as near Coolah

John

[Rangier Rover]

Have any of you had the last lot of rain. We have had two good falls this week. So wet can't move other than in a Rover;)
Seems a coincidence, but the clutch in my 2a is now sliping under full load and friction point is high up on pedal:( I'm going to have to split it by the looks of it. At least most of the bolts are now out of the floor:twisted:. Had a quote from usual suplier $90 for 9' plate and $165 for pressure plate. Does it sound reasonable. Do you think I should change to a 9 1/2" plate only $40 dearer. Tony

[Shonky]

Nope... we are drying out again. :(

Dams are dropping and the grass is browning off again. Worse is the stock losses we have had in the last fortnight thanks to the bitter cold taking it's toll on the lambs and one ewe who was pretty crook anyway.

Note to self - lambs are not as tough as calves. No more winter babies!

The current count is 3 lambs, 1 ewe and 1 kid - which when we are only running 30 head is a fair few.

At least I have a good supply of very, very tender lamb meat now!

[Rangier Rover]

Nope... we are drying out again. :(

Dams are dropping and the grass is browning off again. Worse is the stock losses we have had in the last fortnight thanks to the bitter cold taking it's toll on the lambs and one ewe who was pretty crook anyway.

Note to self - lambs are not as tough as calves. No more winter babies!

The current count is 3 lambs, 1 ewe and 1 kid - which when we are only running 30 head is a fair few.

At least I have a good supply of very, very tender lamb meat now!

:eek: We have also had huge losses with lambing after the cold snaps. The sheep camps look like a war zone:(. Calves are copeing well as have only had a few get sick from cold. Tony.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Nope... we are drying out again. :(

Dams are dropping and the grass is browning off again. Worse is the stock losses we have had in the last fortnight thanks to the bitter cold taking it's toll on the lambs and one ewe who was pretty crook anyway.

Note to self - lambs are not as tough as calves. No more winter babies!

The current count is 3 lambs, 1 ewe and 1 kid - which when we are only running 30 head is a fair few.

At least I have a good supply of very, very tender lamb meat now!
We haven't lost any stock recently, but the nextdoor neighbour has a menagerie of animals, ducks, pigs, goats, x-staffie pups and a few calves. She is not having much luck, has lost 3 ducks to foxes, 3 goats to snakes and a week old jersey heifer to cold. After almost losing her foot to the ride-on mower she is having a hard time adapting to the new rural lifestyle. :(

Diana

[Aaron IIA]

The bigger plate use the diaphragm pressure plate. This has a different locating dowel pattern than the smaller clutch. You will need to re-drill the flywheel, or get a six cylinder or diesel flywheel.

Aaron.

[Rangier Rover]

The bigger plate use the diaphragm pressure plate. This has a different locating dowel pattern than the smaller clutch. You will need to re-drill the flywheel, or get a six cylinder or diesel flywheel.

Aaron.
Thanks. I forgot they diferent dowels:angel:I'm not going to do all that just for a old farm hack. Looks like the 9" goes back in. So can order one now :)When I get the brakes going on the S1 I will split it then. If my calving heifers let me. ;) Tony. Trying to rain here again with driving wind:eek:

[Aaron IIA]

The clutch can be changed without removing the seat box. Remove all the floor pieces, and slide the gearbox back a bit. That is what the manual tells you to do. But if you remove the seatbox, it is only a couple more bolts, access will be a lot easier.

Aaron.