98 TDi, the Disco is dead - blue smoke

[Andy-M]

Hi

The Disco has died!!!:(

SWMBO took it into town, I received a phone call to say a lot of smoke was coming out the exhaust and it was lacking power.

When i drove in and checked it the oil was not even on the stick (1Lt made it come back up to half way). I started her and blue smoke billowed out the exhaust like a smoke screen.

I undid the oil filler on the tappet cover and smoke came out of there to, as well as a lot of air and a choofing sound. It sounded terminal!:eek:

I nursed it down to my work where it can be secured and will take it to a mechanic tomorrow.

The question :confused: is what could it be, turbo? headgasket? or something else. Yesterday I noticed a bit of smoke from the exhaust and a different smell which I put down to a full tank od deisel from a different servo.

Any help would be great :(.



Cheers Andy.

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Andy,
At the very least, I'd suspect a bent valve. As to what has caused this I can't be sure, but would be looking at a "chewed out" keyway on your bottom pulley.

Best of luck,
Peter

[dullbird]

head gasket

thats just what has happened to us...including the chuffing out of the the oil cover on top of the rocker cover;)

not that terminal for us skimmed head and new gasket hopefully, almost all back together so will be able to say in in the next week or so whether thats whats all

already have the head back on with new gasket etc, but while we had it apart we have sent the injectors off to be looked at to make sure they dont need overhauling once they come back will be able to fire it up

[long stroke]

How many km's does it have on the clock??

TIM.

[Reads90]

head gasket

thats just what has happened to us...including the chuffing out of the the oil cover on top of the rocker cover;)

not that terminal for us skimmed head and new gasket hopefully, almost all back together so will be able to say in in the next week or so whether thats whats all

already have the head back on with new gasket etc, but while we had it apart we have sent the injectors off to be looked at to make sure they dont need overhauling once they come back will be able to fire it up


As Dullbird said its the head gasket , not too much of a problem can be fixed and not terminal

[Andy-M]

Thanks for the replies so far.

140000 Km on the clock, I am only the second owner, Iv'e had it since 104000 Km. Serviced every 5000, the original owner sold it to me due to having his licence suspended (he was in his late 80's).

There is no water transfer with the oil, the coolant level is fine and there was no overheating. It has not displayed the normal headgasket signs I have seen in the past, although it is my first diesel.

The vehicle has done next to no hard work, just normal camping, light 4x4 work.

I have had 3 beers now, it does not seem so bad, just lots of $$$.

Can I start a petition to get JC to move to northern Tasmania? He is a bit too far away for this kind of repair :D.

Andy.

[Reads90]

Hi Andy,
At the very least, I'd suspect a bent valve. As to what has caused this I can't be sure, but would be looking at a "chewed out" keyway on your bottom pulley.

Best of luck,
Peter

mmm chewed out key, then the car would not go if inside the timing cover (as the timing would be so far out ), outside the timing cover then it would do nothing to the internals of the engine apart from over heating it and jaming it solid when it over heats too much (as nothing turning the water pump ). But you would noticce the power steering was working beofre it over heated :)

[Dougal]

A blown turbo could account for the oil consumption and smoke, but not the chuffing and smoke inside the engine.

[dullbird]

Thanks for the replies so far.

140000 Km on the clock, I am only the second owner, Iv'e had it since 104000 Km. Serviced every 5000, the original owner sold it to me due to having his licence suspended (he was in his late 80's).

There is no water transfer with the oil, the coolant level is fine and there was no overheating. It has not displayed the normal headgasket signs I have seen in the past, although it is my first diesel.

The vehicle has done next to no hard work, just normal camping, light 4x4 work.

I have had 3 beers now, it does not seem so bad, just lots of $$$.

Can I start a petition to get JC to move to northern Tasmania? He is a bit too far away for this kind of repair :D.

Andy.

yes we never had any coolant lost either or water in the oil.....BUT there was wear on the head and gasket causing oil to pass into number 1 and number 4 cylinder.....i think in turn (this is what we were lead to believe) the cylinders then pressurize the oils sump or something like that causing oil to spray out all over engine bay! thats what happened to ours

i bet my life after experiencing ours its a head gasket as it sounds exactly the same....only difference is our cab filled with smoke and when we did stop dropped oil

[Andy-M]

Hi Dullbird, how many K's when yours went?

I think you and Reads are on the money, but mine was making a choofing sound not a chuffing sound like yours. Could yours have been choofing and not chuffing? :p

Mmm beer! a great part of a staple diet!


Cheers Andy.

[Reads90]

Thanks for the replies so far.

140000 Km on the clock, I am only the second owner, Iv'e had it since 104000 Km. Serviced every 5000, the original owner sold it to me due to having his licence suspended (he was in his late 80's).

There is no water transfer with the oil, the coolant level is fine and there was no overheating. It has not displayed the normal headgasket signs I have seen in the past, although it is my first diesel.

The vehicle has done next to no hard work, just normal camping, light 4x4 work.

I have had 3 beers now, it does not seem so bad, just lots of $$$.

Can I start a petition to get JC to move to northern Tasmania? He is a bit too far away for this kind of repair :D.

Andy.

mmm had a headgasket go on a 300 TDi 90 and that did not have oil in the water (as it went though a oil way and clinder and not water way and champer) and did not over heat ( but having the gasket go between the oil way and cylinder would make the engine chuff the way you describe it is, as the compression gases are going into the crank case of the enigne ) . I did not notice there was something up untill i stopped at a traffic light and saw the smoke that was coming out of the back

[dullbird]

Hi Dullbird, how many K's when yours went?

I think you and Reads are on the money, but mine was making a choofing sound not a chuffing sound like yours.
Could yours have been choofing and not chuffing? :p
Mmm beer! a great part of a staple diet!


Cheers Andy.

possibly:eek: but could yours be chuffing not choofing:D.....maybe it depends on where there car was born and its accent, as ours came from the South of england us was chuffin:p

[Reads90]

Mmm beer! a great part of a staple diet!


Cheers Andy.

Beer alwaqys make it look better :):)

[Reads90]

possibly:eek: but could yours be chuffing not choofing:D.....maybe it depends on where there car was born and its accent, as ours came from the north of england us was chuffin:p

And as coming for the north would say Eh Up and go down pub to get Nukie brown :):):)

i have always had it described as your engine tryng to be a steam engine :)

Ali

[dullbird]

And as coming for the north would say Eh Up and go down pub to get Nukie brown :):):)

i have always had it described as your engine tryng to be a steam engine :)

Ali

yes looks like we both post at the same time in regards to oil getting in and getting pressurized no1 and no4 on ours

yes it does sound like a steam train, thats how we described ours in our 110% post in the defender section;)

[justinc]

Hi Andy,

As others have said, head gasket, it is a classic failure. The only other thing I would suggest to do is when it is off, remove and drain the intercooler, as it will be full of engine oil, and will get blown straight in the intake manifold on the first test drive and blow the engine to bits...:eek:

PM me if you need anything, I have a contact in Launceston that could possibly do the job if you are interested? He knows what he is doing with Tdi's.


JC

[Andy-M]

Thanks all,

Hi JC, I normaly use Merv Bassett at Bob Jane, in Devonport, he seems to know his way around a Landy, although he doesn't like to work on them he still does a good job (as far as I can tell anyway), he replaced the timing belt and did a couple of other small jobs for me.

I'm keen to hear if you have any knowledge of him or if you have any Devonport contacts. Launceston is still a bit far away, I am working shift work on a wierd rotational roster. I would like to have a go at it myself only time is not on my side. I have a 2a in the shed that I will be doing all my own mechanicals on.

Still think you need to move up here, we grow Bananas and Pineapples during the summer months and catch Coral trout 200m offshore. This is the sunshine end of the state :angel:.

Cheers Andy.

[justinc]

Thanks all,

Hi JC, I normaly use Merv Bassett at Bob Jane, in Devonport, he seems to know his way around a Landy, although he doesn't like to work on them he still does a good job (as far as I can tell anyway), he replaced the timing belt and did a couple of other small jobs for me.

I'm keen to hear if you have any knowledge of him or if you have any Devonport contacts. Launceston is still a bit far away, I am working shift work on a wierd rotational roster. I would like to have a go at it myself only time is not on my side. I have a 2a in the shed that I will be doing all my own mechanicals on.

Still think you need to move up here, we grow Bananas and Pineapples during the summer months and catch Coral trout 200m offshore. This is the sunshine end of the state :angel:.
Cheers Andy.


:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Roll ing::Rolling:


That 2A is about the same work to pull the head!!!:D:D

Don't know Merv, and I have no D'port contacts sorry.:(

Let me know if you need help etc though, 62291102 (W)

JC

[Poida4x4]

Ooo er... 140K and blown head gasget. One of the ones I'm looking is on 137K...

The other one is on 270K though. When you're buying second hand I guess you never know when it's gunna go...

[cooter]

in my opinion (diesel mechanic by trade) id say either turbo seal head gasket or smashed piston caused the oil consumption and the choofing out of the rocker cover sounds like blow by
more than likely it has grabbed a piston or possibly dropped a valve and put a hole in a piston
if it has been starved of oil then it is more than likely grabbed a piston in the cylinder , possibly grabbed big end or cam bearing,damaged rocker assembly and the list goes on but that is worst case scenario
but as others have said possibly head gasket
for your sake i hope it is the later

[Larns]

in my opinion (diesel mechanic by trade) id say either turbo seal head gasket or smashed piston caused the oil consumption and the choofing out of the rocker cover sounds like blow by


That would have been my first guess, oil ring gone. But with the overwhelming cases of head gaskets going in these engines that might be the trend.
This kinda worries me as I'm looing at getting a 98 disco with 300TDi at in the not too distant future, it sounds like it would pay to have the headgasket changed with the timing belts on these engines.
Dosn't exactly instill confidance in getting one:(

[Reads90]

This kinda worries me as I'm looing at getting a 98 disco with 300TDi at in the not too distant future, it sounds like it would pay to have the headgasket changed with the timing belts on these engines.
Dosn't exactly instill confidance in getting one:(


Don't worry the 300 Tdi is a fantasic engine , but you only hear about the ones that have problems on here not the ones that have lasted years and years with out problems. My dad 450,000 MILES in one with no problem at all . But pretty much most engines have a cambelt that needs changing and most engines need a Head gasket now and agian. Just be thankfull that unlike a V8 there is only one head gasket to do :):)

[loanrangie]

Don't worry the 300 Tdi is a fantasic engine , but you only hear about the ones that have problems on here not the ones that have lasted years and years with out problems. My dad 450,000 MILES in one with no problem at all . But pretty much most engines have a cambelt that needs changing and most engines need a Head gasket now and agian. Just be thankfull that unlike a V8 there is only one head gasket to do :):)

Totally agree, dont be put off by a few incedents here and there, even toyota's have t/belts issues (3ltr hilux) and i bet they have more damage when one lets go.

[justinc]

Don't be put off, These ARE great engines!

I have replaced head gaskets in these as a preventative measure at around 240K, and it seems like a good time to do them.

It is a lot cheaper to replace them before they go, as if they blow into the water jacket and empty/ pressurise the cooling system, it could nip pistons in bores, blow the heater core, etc etc etc.

I'm stripping one at the moment that did the head gasket and emptied the cooling system, siezed the pistons in the bores and is in need of a total rebuild, new head and all!:eek:

JC

[rangieman]

That would have been my first guess, oil ring gone. But with the overwhelming cases of head gaskets going in these engines that might be the trend.
This kinda worries me as I'm looing at getting a 98 disco with 300TDi at in the not too distant future, it sounds like it would pay to have the headgasket changed with the timing belts on these engines.
Dosn't exactly instill confidance in getting one:(
Dont stress my Tdi has done 230ks and im not about to change the head gasket because it might blow
My Tdi has been been a gem (touch wood) and i just love it to death , It just does,nt make sense to me to change a head gasket cause it may blow no offence intended to anyone .
What about every other componet of the car that might just blow are you going to replace them cause they might break;)
Dont get me wrong i do believe in preventitive maintence it just annoys me how some say change things cause they MIGHT BREAK ,If your heading off around oz well maybe.

About one of the best investments you can make is a low coolant alarm for about $150 its, a lot cheaper than a engine or complete head
There just so happens there is a sponsor of the site that sells a good low coolant alarm (engine saver) in the above banner at times

[Reads90]

Alot better than those horrid foreign noisy Isuzu engines :D:D:angel:


Now running for cover :D

[PAT303]

My Tdi has now got 399670k's and pulls like a horse even thou I'm running 33' tyres.At work I have a 3lt rodeo and two 3lt lowlux's and it leaves them behind.One of the lux's **** a starter motor today and for a Thailand made starter Toyota want $1500 plus freight and there is none in WA.I couldn't get a fuel filter or a Prado top rad hose either,none in Oz.No shortage of dealers,they just don't have anything. Pat

[Psimpson7]

There are some big contradictors on this forum...

TDI has issues. - great engine. only hear about the bad ones. its all good
TD5 has issues - nighmare. throw it away.. technology... buy a tdi

:mad:

[Disco_owner]

I've always thought that you'd replace head-gaskets , timing belts or any other critical part of a vehicle as a "preventative measure" not because you're waiting for it to Blow? :confused:

and would replace parts before they fail not afterwards ?

and if you're waiting for it to Blow well shake hands with
Murphy because it will happen when you least expect it.

[Andy-M]

Hi all

Just a quick update.

It was only the head gasket between No 4 (I think) and an oil gallery (or big oil hole thing to the sump - not up with terminogolgy too much).

I had the injectors tested, they were down on preasure and not spraying properly (some holes blocked?), new ones are going to be installed.

I am also addressing a couple of oil leaks in the oil cooler hoses while the engine is apart. Thanks for the tip on the intercooler JC :BigThumb:, I instructed the mechanic we needed to clean it out, he agreed and showed me some oil inside the pipe.

Should come in just under $2000 with all the new filters and a service.

I am so happy the pistons were O/K. The honing marks in the bore look as if they were only done yesterday :cool: (mechanic was impressed by the condition of the bores).


Will let you know how it turns out.

Cheers :twobeers: Andy.

(3 other people at work are having car problems at the moment - Subaru head gaskets $1800 - Nissan 4x4 manifold problems, currently up to around $3000 and climbing)

[jimbo110]

There are some big contradictors on this forum...

TDI has issues. - great engine. only hear about the bad ones. its all good
TD5 has issues - nighmare. throw it away.. technology... buy a tdi

:mad:


All sounds quite fair to me :BigThumb:

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Hi all

Just a quick update.

It was only the head gasket between No 4 (I think) and an oil gallery (or big oil hole thing to the sump - not up with terminogolgy too much).

There are 2 types of head gaskets for the 300. The early type is composite and the late is a steel shim type. The steel gasket can be used on both early and late and is a supercession to the composite. **The composite cannot be used on the late type**
The late head has the additional coolant gallery in the headface that is allowed for in the steel gasket but not the composite as early heads did not have this drilling.
Make sure you use the late type gasket no matter what engine spec you have.

[loanrangie]

Glad its an easy, read inexpensive fix.

[Andy-M]

Hi all

The Disco is back and running well (so far anyway).

Total cost $2199, this included:
New injectors & return pipe seals
Gasket set
2 x Enzed oil cooler hoses
New oil preasure switch
Head skim to ensure no problems
New filters (Oil, Air, Fuel)
Cleaning Intercooler
Labour costs

Although I was not happy with the problem happening, I am very happy with the service I recieved from Bob Jane in Devonport (Merv Bassett). I hope mentioning the company does not breach any rules, I think it would be beneficial for other Landy owners to know of a "Landy friendly" repair guy in the area.


Cheers Andy :)

[mcrover]

There are some big contradictors on this forum...

TDI has issues. - great engine. only hear about the bad ones. its all good
TD5 has issues - nighmare. throw it away.. technology... buy a tdi

:mad:

What is it your trying to say?

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Pretty much says it all.

My 300Tdi has now done 307,000kms, for the last 100,000 odd it has been serviced every 20,000kms due to doing oil analysis to see what was happening with the oil and the engine is doing fine.

The injectors are tired and the turbo has been rebuilt but being well maintained and not thrashed they will last indeffinately.

Mine should have the steel head gasket though due to it being a 97 model but I know for sure that the head has never been off.

As I have said before, the Td5 stuff was colated for the purpose of showing a mate what he should look out for with his Disco and is not meant to be a dig and yes there is probably just as much on the 300Tdi but most of it will all come back to the few minor faults which are easilly remedied with either preventative maintenance or just keeping a close eye on things.

By the way, I agree with Rangieman, I dont go changing things like head gaskets unless they blow but if someone were to maybe find out and post what chassis number etc the gasket was changed to steel then If pre that number then I would seriously look at changing it.

140,000kms, It isnt unusuall for a low km older car to do things like headgaskets and seals when put under normal use conditions where it gets hot (normal op temp) for longer periods of time and maybe increased revs etc than the previous owner used to do.

[Phoenix]

Although I was not happy with the problem happening, I am very happy with the service I recieved from Bob Jane in Devonport (Merv Bassett). I hope mentioning the company does not breach any rules, I think it would be beneficial for other Landy owners to know of a "Landy friendly" repair guy in the area.


Cheers Andy :)

No problems at all letting us know where you got good service, it's always good to know where a good mechanic is ;)

[discomuzz]

I had the injectors tested, they were down on preasure and not spraying properly (some holes blocked?), new ones are going to be installed.


I thought you could get injectors ultrasonically cleaned if they were partially blocked!

For future reference, is this not an option?

[Pierre]

Not for 300tdi injectors - non-serviceable units. Spray pressure and pattern are critical parameters. Prices vary a lot for replacements, so do your homework on UK suppliers as well as those in Oz.

HTH

Pete

[PAT303]

Not for 300tdi injectors - non-serviceable units. Spray pressure and pattern are critical parameters. Prices vary a lot for replacements, so do your homework on UK suppliers as well as those in Oz.

HTH

Pete

I just bought four from bosch Australia and they were a stock part and are $124 each.Not worth fixing,cleaning in my opinion. Pat

[dullbird]

Hi all

The Disco is back and running well (so far anyway).

Total cost $2199, this included:
New injectors & return pipe seals
Gasket set
2 x Enzed oil cooler hoses
New oil preasure switch
Head skim to ensure no problems
New filters (Oil, Air, Fuel)
Cleaning Intercooler
Labour costs

Although I was not happy with the problem happening, I am very happy with the service I recieved from Bob Jane in Devonport (Merv Bassett). I hope mentioning the company does not breach any rules, I think it would be beneficial for other Landy owners to know of a "Landy friendly" repair guy in the area.


Cheers Andy :)

see i told yeh its all about the chuffin.........glad you got yours on the road while sorting ours out we found the firewall has had it so no quick rebuild and get the 90 back on the road:(.......got to swap the firewall out now:mad:

[up2nogood]

I just bought four from bosch Australia and they were a stock part and are $124 each.Not worth fixing,cleaning in my opinion. Pat


Do they sell to the public?

[p38arover]

No problems at all letting us know where you got good service, it's always good to know where a good mechanic is ;)

Maybe he needs to be added to the LR service POI file?

[justinc]

Do they sell to the public?

You need to be a Bosch australia account customer to get that pricing! I don
t buy enough from them to be one, so I can't buy at that price!!

JC

[PAT303]

You lost me there!!.I just walked in,said I wanted four Bosch injectors for a 300 Tdi,the guy new the number off his head and said we carry 8 in stock.Simple. Pat

[Andy-M]

see i told yeh its all about the chuffin.........glad you got yours on the road while sorting ours out we found the firewall has had it so no quick rebuild and get the 90 back on the road:(.......got to swap the firewall out now:mad:


G'day Dullbird, you were right, it was chuffing :BigThumb: and not choofing, thank goodness.

I hope all goes well with the 90, I will be changing the firewall in the 2a in a month or so, should be easier than the 90, less bits.

Cheers Andy

[justinc]

You lost me there!!.I just walked in,said I wanted four Bosch injectors for a 300 Tdi,the guy new the number off his head and said we carry 8 in stock.Simple. Pat

Pat, was that through Coventrys or a bosch type agent?
I'm interested because unless I am mistaken, I'm certain I can't get them that cheap, although it HAS been a while since I bought one...:)

JC

[PAT303]

Coventrys sell them but with thier mark-up.There is a bosch Aust outlet in Kal and the bloke in there was straight up and right on it.I was going to re-seal the pump while I was at it but he said he can buy in a pump from the UK for less than a reco exchange here.I rang Perth first as I didn't know about the Kal office and the bloke there was top notch too.It was a supprise as I mostly deal with toyota and the answers are normally ''The what?'',how do you spell that,we have one over east,there's none in the country etc.As I was leaving he said ''you do know we can tweak them''. Pat

[B92 8NW]

I had the same experience - simply walked into a Bosch agent in Melb and got 4 200Tdi injectors for $149. (Which is damn damn cheap for 200 injectors.)

[justinc]

Hmmm,:mad:

Thanks for that info Pat.

I'm going to research Bosch agents down here in sunny Tas next week!

JC

[dullbird]

I had the same experience - simply walked into a Bosch agent in Melb and got 4 200Tdi injectors for $149. (Which is damn damn cheap for 200 injectors.)

my god how long ago was that? we have just paid god knows how much to have ours over hauled:mad:

[B92 8NW]

my god how long ago was that? we have just paid god knows how much to have ours over hauled:mad:

About four months ago. In case there was any ambiguity, I meant 4 200Tdi injectors for $149 each.

[pawl]

Yeah, I think they have come down a bit in price as I got 4 new injectors for my 300 Tdi for $130 odd each about 2.5 yrs ago from a Bosch service agent.

[brendanb]

Andy

What did the problem turn out to be. My 95 Defender 300tdi had a similar failure on the Nullarbor. It was trucked back to Melb where head was removed and checked. Head was fine, I replaced the valve stem seals and refitted the head to the block.

Engine now starts ok but makes a knocking noise at revs.

Next step is to drop the sump and check the crank bearings.

Brendan

[Andy-M]

Hi Brendan

Turned out to be the head gasket gone, no real reason for it going everything else was o/k.

Did you re-do the tappets after replacing the head? You should be able to tell by listening to it to see if the noise is from the top end or in the bottom.

Best of luck.

Cheers Andy