Bogey or NO bogey

[Rangienut]

Hey dudes and dudettes,

I have been hearing a "thunk, thunk" noise comming from the back of my '85 Rangie the last couple of months. Not being my daily ride and more of a "project" I delayed getting under her (probably because of all the oil:p)to check it out. I eventually got her up on the blocks yesterday and found a leaking bogey with a fair bit of play.

I have heard in the past that it is not worth replacing the bogey, rather upgrade the coils or better still, install pollies. I already have a set of pollies in the vehicle (curteousy of the previous owner).

I have a few questions:

Should I replace the bogey or can I do without?
Will upgrading the coils do the trick and if so what should I go for?
Will using the pollies, to level the vehicle under load, be enough?

Kind regards, all!

[Rangier Rover]

Chuck the load leveler behind the dunnydoor as most of us have. They are a pita. It's likely not the cause of your noise though. The way you desribe it sounds more likely the Ball joint in the A arm.
There are plenty of good arftermarket springs out there. Try and get a set that suits the weight you carry.
Polly air bags will hold it up but don't work well with some longer travel setups as spring dislocation cones can be needed. Tony

[r.over]

I have replaced an upgraded the BOGE unit a couple of times over the years. My Rangie is only an Off-roader and not used as a daily driver. I would not get rid of the load leveler under any circumstance.

If you use your Rangie mainly on the road, then get rid of it. It will help the car sit flatter on the road and improve the handling.

If you use it mainly off road, keep it as it improves your articulation significantly.

If yours is currently stuffed, hen you will not notice any difference if you remove it.

[Rangier Rover]

My 2 Door seems to have more travel with out the Boge as it used to hang onto the A armhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Has 4" lift patrol shocks with pin eye adapter and EFS 220 lbs rear springs. Seems fine on road. Tony

[r.over]

My 2 Door seems to have more travel with out the Boge as it used to hang onto the A armhttp://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9983&stc=1&d=1218019127
Has 4" lift patrol shocks with pin eye adapter and EFS 220 lbs rear springs. Seems fine on road. Tony
If you are going to run dislocation springs, then get rid of the BOGE unit as it will restrict the travel.
We can get into a completely different discussion about dislocation springs and the benefits/disadvantages

[Rangier Rover]

Fair enough I see your point:) Tony

[4.42doorrangie]

I have replaced an upgraded the BOGE unit a couple of times over the years. My Rangie is only an Off-roader and not used as a daily driver. I would not get rid of the load leveler under any circumstance.

If you use your Rangie mainly on the road, then get rid of it. It will help the car sit flatter on the road and improve the handling.

If you use it mainly off road, keep it as it improves your articulation significantly.

If yours is currently stuffed, hen you will not notice any difference if you remove it.


The third line i dont agree with, how does it improve your aticulation if its holding on to the A frame?? its main prupose is to keep the car level when towing or carrying heavy weight why would you need it if 1) you dont use it 2)your not carrying heavy weight 3) after putting any kind of lift in the rangie wether it be 2" or 3" or 4" it hinders the travel???

i rekon its the A frame loose or dead. i have a similar problem in my 76, i've decided to get a late model diff housing and cut the bracket clean off the diff and weld it to mine, this will remove the slack in the ball joint and fix the problem for good.

simon

[r.over]

The third line i dont agree with, how does it improve your aticulation if its holding on to the A frame?? its main prupose is to keep the car level when towing or carrying heavy weight why would you need it if 1) you dont use it 2)your not carrying heavy weight 3) after putting any kind of lift in the rangie wether it be 2" or 3" or 4" it hinders the travel???
It acts as a pivot point. Therefore as one wheel goes up it forces the other down.
Its main purpose is to allow softer springs to be used in the rear. That is, the BOGE unit will take the extra weight so you don't need as heavy springs. Lighter springs means better and longer travel.
You will find that it is the shocks that limit the travel and not the BOGE unit.
But come the end of the day, having it in and out has shown me how much better the rear end moves off-road with it in. Many people reckon to take it out as it better. But nearly all these people had stuffed units in the first place and therefore removing it and putting in stiffer springs will be better. Find someone that had a working unit and took it out.

[Rangienut]

Many thanks all!!!:D

Seeing that I want to restore the vehicle as close to the original as possible, I will check out the ball joint first. If it is only that I will fix it. If not and the bogey is shot, I will chuck it and fit some aftermarket coils.