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scarry
12th August 2008, 07:33 PM
series one prices

continuing on about series 1 prices,came across these.those of you that are computer gurus can probably magnify so they are easier to read.

last time this one was sold,see below

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9708/oldlandrover0003de7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2757/oldlandrover0002zd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8579/oldlandrover0001el6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

its been handed down in the family,but never sold .........one owner?

cheers



and here is a picture of it here.....still going strong


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://imageshack.us)

Sleepy
12th August 2008, 08:15 PM
What a great piece of history.

730 quid; a lot of money given the average wage. I wonder at how that compares with $50,000 for a new defender.

Lovely looking S1 paul:)

JDNSW
13th August 2008, 06:25 AM
What a great piece of history.

730 quid; a lot of money given the average wage. I wonder at how that compares with $50,000 for a new defender.

Lovely looking S1 paul:)

In 1956 my father, who would have been on about average income, was making less than ten pounds (A) a week. Also at around that time our house (on seven acres three miles from Parramatta) was valued at a thousand pounds.

John

scarry
13th August 2008, 08:46 AM
at least a defender will come with....wipers,door locks,wing mirrors,flashers,etc as standard equipment.....that hopefully work;)

easo
13th August 2008, 08:56 AM
That a beauty, is there a way to convert the 730 quid into a today dollar figure?

Sleepy
13th August 2008, 11:38 AM
Bit of a thread drift but here you go:


Average weekly wage in 1956 was about 17 pounds. It would have taken you about 42 weeks pay to pay for the Series 1. (Based on 730 pounds on road with a winch)

Average weekly wage in 2008 is about $1150, that is about 47 weeks wage (Based on $55,000 on road with a winch)


Sources:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6302.0 (http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6302.0)
http://www.rba.gov.au/Statistics/OP8ExcelFiles/4-17.xls (http://www.rba.gov.au/Statistics/OP8ExcelFiles/4-17.xls)
http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/free.nsf/0/38E934383752795ACA2573AD00200452/$File/13010_1956%20section%206.pdf (http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/free.nsf/0/38E934383752795ACA2573AD00200452/$File/13010_1956%20section%206.pdf)

Actually I was quite surprised that the number of weeks is pretty close I had always thought that a car was still quite a luxury in the 50’s .

(Don’t flame me if I’ve stuffed the maths – I aint a statistician or an accountant – just thought it’d would be an interesting comparison!)

Edit - I think I do need an accountant because I just realised I haven't taken out income tax --- doh!

JDNSW
13th August 2008, 04:26 PM
.............
Actually I was quite surprised that the number of weeks is pretty close I had always thought that a car was still quite a luxury in the 50s .

(Dont flame me if Ive stuffed the maths I aint a statistician or an accountant just thought itd would be an interesting comparison!)

Edit - I think I do need an accountant because I just realised I haven't taken out income tax --- doh!

Your figures suggest that my memory of my father's income may have been about 1950 not 1956 - and there was a lot of inflation in that period.

Cars were more of a luxury then, but I think you will find that at that time the Landrover sold for little more than the Holden car - which was just about the cheapest you could get. Relative to other cars it is now a lot more expensive than it was fifty years ago.

And I think that the proportion of tax paid on an average income may well be less than it was then.

John

Lotz-A-Landies
13th August 2008, 05:04 PM
One also has to calculate the fact that that vehicle was sold in GB not Australian (pounds), so the comparison with what someone earned in Australia was different to UK earnings.

Did someone pick the vehicle up in London or was it a private export/import?

Diana

Sleepy
13th August 2008, 05:10 PM
Here’s another way of looking at it:

Fuel cost about 6c a litre in 1956. http://www.choice.com.au/files/f119367.pdf

730 pounds ($1460) would buy 24,334 litres of petrol

$55,000 dollars would buy 34,375 litres of unleaded (at $1.60 per litre)

On that equivalence the series 1 would cost about $78,000 today

Lotz-A-Landies
13th August 2008, 05:16 PM
at least a defender will come with....wipers,door locks,wing mirrors,flashers,etc as standard equipment.....that hopefully work;)
The Defender will still come with only 1 wiper motor for the front windscreen, the wiper on the invoice was for a second wiper for the passengers windscreen.

Back in 1956 the door frames were galvanised and have lasted for 52 years, the doors on the 2008 Defender are at best zinc-anneal and will last about 10 to 15 years.

Having been at Trivett's in Parramatta a couple of months ago and saw daylight through the bottom of the rear passengers door seal on a pre-delivery 110 wagon, you realise that the door seals on the 2008 Defender are still no better than the ones used in 1956.

I would however love to have a winch fitted for 10 shillings or $A1 at 14/02/1967 decimal currency conversion rate.

Diana

scarry
13th August 2008, 05:42 PM
Did someone pick the vehicle up in London or was it a private export/import?

Diana


the vehicle was picked up (bought privately) in england,driven through europe & then shipped to west africa, & based in kumasi.it stayed there until 1966,before being shipped to england for a couple of months,& then shipped to brisbane where it has been since.

have got a few old photos of it in africa,etc,will have to sort them out & post them.....dont want to bore you all;)

i have also found some log books for it

cheers

procrastination inc
13th August 2008, 06:15 PM
the vehicle was picked up (bought privately) in england,driven through europe & then shipped to west africa, & based in kumasi.it stayed there until 1966,before being shipped to england for a couple of months,& then shipped to brisbane where it has been since.

have got a few old photos of it in africa,etc,will have to sort them out & post them...

i have also found some log books for it

cheers

That history is worth more than the lump of metal it goes with :)

JDNSW
14th August 2008, 06:10 AM
That history is worth more than the lump of metal it goes with :)

Yes, this is the sort of history that adds markedly to the value of the vehicle when it comes on the market - to get back on the original topic.

John

vnx205
14th August 2008, 06:55 AM
Bit of a thread drift but here you go:

Average weekly wage in 1956 was about 17 pounds. It would have taken you about 42 weeks pay to pay for the Series 1. (Based on 730 pounds on road with a winch)

Average weekly wage in 2008 is about $1150, that is about 47 weeks wage (Based on $55,000 on road with a winch)

Sources:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6302.0 (http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6302.0)
http://www.rba.gov.au/Statistics/OP8ExcelFiles/4-17.xls (http://www.rba.gov.au/Statistics/OP8ExcelFiles/4-17.xls)
http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/free.nsf/0/38E934383752795ACA2573AD00200452/$File/13010_1956%20section%206.pdf (http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/free.nsf/0/38E934383752795ACA2573AD00200452/$File/13010_1956%20section%206.pdf)

Actually I was quite surprised that the number of weeks is pretty close I had always thought that a car was still quite a luxury in the 50s .

(Dont flame me if Ive stuffed the maths I aint a statistician or an accountant just thought itd would be an interesting comparison!)

Edit - I think I do need an accountant because I just realised I haven't taken out income tax --- doh!
I always reckon it is much more complicated than that.
I argue that to work out how long someone would have to work to buy a car, you don't look at gross income.
You don't even look at after tax income.
You need to look at disposable income.

That is much harder to calculate, but I believe it is the only relevant measure.

Sleepy
14th August 2008, 12:55 PM
Yeah probably not reasonable comparison. No doubt they were expensive for there time. I recall my grandfather saying his first AWA TV cost many hundreds of pounds in the late 50's - about 75% the cost of his new FE holden:eek:

mick88
24th June 2014, 08:08 PM
I have a copy here of the receipt for a 1971 2A SWB that was purchased new and the buyer could have opted for a GT Falcon of the day. A standard family sedan was about 2/3 of the price.
Up until recent years when motor vehicles have become so much more affordable a new vehicle was approx twelve months wages for the average tradesman.
I also have an old Barrier Miner (Broken Hill) news paper from the 1950's when wool was 1 Pound a Pound and new Vauxhall Sedans were about eight hundred quid and the utes were a bit dearer.


Cheers, Mick.

russellrovers
25th June 2014, 02:12 PM
Your figures suggest that my memory of my father's income may have been about 1950 not 1956 - and there was a lot of inflation in that period.

Cars were more of a luxury then, but I think you will find that at that time the Landrover sold for little more than the Holden car - which was just about the cheapest you could get. Relative to other cars it is now a lot more expensive than it was fifty years ago.

And I think that the proportion of tax paid on an average income may well be less than it was then.

John a bricklayer in 1954 take home pay was 9 pound a week when i finished my time in 1960 take home pay 11 pound a week

Pedro_The_Swift
2nd July 2014, 06:03 AM
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and here is a picture of it here.....still going strong


http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3421/dcp0257dn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Pic taken away Paul?

and heres one to import--
1952 LAND ROVER SERIES 1 for sale | LRO.com, UK (http://www.lro.com/detail/cars/4x4s/land-rover/series-1/70042)

scarry
2nd July 2014, 12:12 PM
Dunno what happened to the old pic

This is the best i can do at the moment,it does get a run in the mud every now and then:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/1161.jpg (http://picturepush.com/public/14236270)


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Pic taken away Paul?