Brake pad replacement cost

[WhiteD3]

The D3's got 34,000k on it and the dealer's saying the pads need replacing.

$615 for the front and $400 odd for the rears.

Is this right? For economy reasons I've nursed the D3 around town and although I've done more 4WDing than most D3's, I'm still surprised they need doing.

But a thousand bucks!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

[Tote]

Far be it form me to suggest that dealers are lying scumbags but brake pads are one of the things I have consistently argued about with them. I usually refuse to authorise any replacements until I have pulled off the wheels and had a look for myself.
Alternately check the pads before it goes in for a service so you can tell them that you think they will stretch to another service when they suggest replacement.
Regards,
Tote

[WhiteD3]

Alternately check the pads before it goes in for a service so you can tell them that you think they will stretch to another service when they suggest replacement.

Thanks Tote. At the 24k service they said they had another 5k in them so I stretched them out till now. I'm planning to ring around next week to get alternative pricing.

[RichardK]

I have replaced 2 times now both times cost around $140 a set for front and about the same for the rear, wont be long before after market pads will be available.
Takes me around an hour to replace a set (Both sides,I tend to fiddle around) and it is a simple task

[inside]

Ring a reseller of Bendix and ask how much these pads are. It will give you something to compare against.

Bendix Australia (http://www.bendix.com.au/ReverseLookup.aspx?SetRefNo=DB1780)

[p38arover]

Are the D3 brakes simialr to the D2 and P38A? (see Brake Job Range Rover 4.0/4.6 (http://rangerovers.net/maintenance/brakejob4.html) )

If so, it's really not a difficult job.

[WhiteD3]

Are the D3 brakes simialr to the D2 and P38A? (see Brake Job Range Rover 4.0/4.6 (http://rangerovers.net/maintenance/brakejob4.html) )

If so, it's really not a difficult job.


Thanks Ron, but when God blessed me with good looks:angel:, charm, a towering intellect:eek: and a fondness for red wine:D, the bugger hit me with the stupid stick when it comes to most things mechanical:(

[p38arover]

Thanks Ron, but when God blessed me with good looks:angel:, charm, a towering intellect:eek: and a fondness for red wine:D, the bugger hit me with the stupid stick when it comes to most things mechanical:(

At least he got the red wine bit right! :p

'Tis a pity you aren't nearby, otherwise I'd give you a hand and show you. Unfortunately, replacing the pads isn't as easy as it is on the RR clasic, D1, Defenders but replacing the disc rotors is much, much easier on the later cars.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

could be you pair were twins seperated at birth!!!

except one doesnt touch anything that breaks,,
and the other,, well the other is Ron---
:p:Rolling:

[disco_2008]

does it void the warranty if you replace them yourself?

[dhard]

Cripes:o That seems a bit high I just paid $1000 dollars to have alll my rotors/pads and wheel bearings done on the D1. $400 Labour charged for 4.5 hours work. The Pads themselves were $85 front $75 rear. Assuming yours might cost double that they are charging you alot for labour. I would hate too think that they've made pad changing anymore time consuming than 15-20min a wheel. i.e car up on hoist wheels off /disconnect pad wear sensor if applicable/Pins out that hold pads in place/ new pads in with smear of high temp anti seize compound on the back/put pins back in and put wheel back on. Surely they haven't made it more complex than this.

[dhard]

Just checked the price out for pads for a d3 they cost 40 pounds and 33 pounds for ferodo pads from a uk supplier. Thats about $100 and $90 for parts what are they doing too warrant that much extra. I'd try ringing MR Automotive or Khor House of Rover to see if they are doing work on d3's yet and ask them for a qoute if they are. Hope you can get it sorted for a more reasonable price as that seems like the old we can charge what we like as they must have the money to drive a rover.

[Tote]

My experience with the local dealer is that they use brake pads as a nice little earner, they usually ring up in the afternoon and say "we've discovered your pads are low, we recommend that you replace them as they won't make it to the next service"
If you say OK they replace the pads and charge you and you never see the old ones so you've got no idea how much wear they had. If you say no, don't replace them then they're covered should they actually wear out and bugger the disks.
Of course a cynic would say that if you asked to see the old pads they could bring you a well worn set that they had prepared earlier:wasntme:
When I get that paranoid I'll start writing on the back of the pads with a paint pen....

I'd also like to point out that the local Ford dealer used to replace the pads on my former work Falcon with alarming regularity also but since I wasn't paying I didn't care much.

Regards,
Tote

[p38arover]

I would hate too think that they've made pad changing anymore time consuming than 15-20min a wheel. i.e car up on hoist wheels off /disconnect pad wear sensor if applicable/Pins out that hold pads in place/ new pads in with smear of high temp anti seize compound on the back/put pins back in and put wheel back on. Surely they haven't made it more complex than this.

Yep. The later cars use a totally different (sliding) calliper . No longer is it a mere pull pins, remove pads job. Fewer pistons in the calliper, too.

[dhard]

Yep. The later cars use a totally different (sliding) calliper . No longer is it a mere pull pins, remove pads job. Fewer pistons in the calliper, too.Just looked at the link you put up that looks just as easy in fact might even be slightly easier as you can get at the pistons easier to spread them apart for the new pad width. I'm gald he changed those discs they were pretty fubar.

[WhiteD3]

Got a second price a third cheaper than LR. LR have since agreed to better it to keep my business. Worth shopping around.:D

[justinc]

The D3 and RRS etc have very short pad and rotor life. The price would've included rotors and sensors, and is about right for genuine parts. Aftermarket repairers using non OE bits for these vehicles will still have to replace the genuine wear sensors etc anyway. I did a RRS lately, and at 58K it needed rotors, pads and sensors. I bought genuine parts for it at the insistence of the owner, and they were all up around $860.00 The other $150 odd was labour , fluid change and picking up and dropping off the vehicle.

I don't think 1K to replace ALL of the brake components on a $100,000 vehicle is over the top, it's just that it has to be done sooner than it should!:o

You guys ought to price a set of rotors and pads for a X5 or a Toureg etc, LR is pretty cheap by comparison:D:D:D

JC

[WhiteD3]

I did a RRS lately, and at 58K it needed rotors, pads and sensors. I bought genuine parts for it at the insistence of the owner, and they were all up around $860.00 The other $150 odd was labour , fluid change and picking up and dropping off the vehicle.

The price was pads only although I suspect the rotors may need machining. What's the sensor do?:confused: I was asked by the dealer if the light was on (which it isn't) so he was satisfied the sensor didn't need replacing.

[justinc]

The price was pads only although I suspect the rotors may need machining. What's the sensor do?:confused: I was asked by the dealer if the light was on (which it isn't) so he was satisfied the sensor didn't need replacing.

Pads only????:eek::eek:
I wouldn't machine these rotors either, they are a sacrificial rotor, and when they wear down with 2 pad changes, they are allready on Min thickness. After the first pad change, (Around 30K:eek:) you SHOULD get to the next set of pads before the rotors need changing. Unless they are extremely grooved or uneven, machining them only shortens their life span.
The pad Sensors set off the warning lamp , but be VERY careful removing them from the old pads, as they sometimes disintegrate anyway! They are predominately plastic, and you know how plastic gets around HEAT:(
I just quote on fitting them anyway, that way if I do get them out with out damage etc, then the bill is less:D

JC

JC

[WhiteD3]

All done by LR today for $428 including loan car. Excellent service:D

..........and they fixed the noisy compressor........................apparently it was covered in Beerburrum mud:eek:

[p38arover]

..........and they fixed the noisy compressor........................apparently it was covered in Beerburrum mud:eek:

Are there quieter types of mud? :p

:D

[TDV6]

DBA rotors will not be available till later this year however Bendix pads are available from around $90 a set, dont know whats in a set (pads and sensors etc or just pads)

Ryall

[disco_2008]

White D3, was that just the front for $428?

[WhiteD3]

White D3, was that just the front for $428?

All 4 wheels, no machining of disks though as it wasn't needed.

[garryc]

The D3's got 34,000k on it and the dealer's saying the pads need replacing.

$615 for the front and $400 odd for the rears.

Is this right? For economy reasons I've nursed the D3 around town and although I've done more 4WDing than most D3's, I'm still surprised they need doing.

But a thousand bucks!!!!:mad::mad::mad:
Are they having you on:confused: I got to 60k out of mine and decided to change them before the Cape York trip including the rear which did not really need doing. It takes about ten minutes per calliper. From memory the pads cost me $220 :)

[Peter_OZ]

ours went about 36 thou, was down to the sensors and yup price was about $1000 to do them and that did not include rotors.

Lease company paid for it all and I'm not paying any extra for it. All built into the monthly fee.

[RichardK]

DBA rotors will not be available till later this year however Bendix pads are available from around $90 a set, dont know whats in a set (pads and sensors etc or just pads)

Ryall

Marfleet have the TRW under $70 set in Perth, kit includes pads, stainless steel "springs" and bolts. No sensors

[placewithoutapostcard]

Pads only????:eek::eek:
I wouldn't machine these rotors either, they are a sacrificial rotor, and when they wear down with 2 pad changes, they are allready on Min thickness. After the first pad change, (Around 30K:eek:) you SHOULD get to the next set of pads before the rotors need changing. Unless they are extremely grooved or uneven, machining them only shortens their life span.
The pad Sensors set off the warning lamp , but be VERY careful removing them from the old pads, as they sometimes disintegrate anyway! They are predominately plastic, and you know how plastic gets around HEAT:(
I just quote on fitting them anyway, that way if I do get them out with out damage etc, then the bill is less:D

JC

JC
Justin
you suggest that you can get 2 lots of pads per rotor change. i just had the 36k sevice done and they said needed new pads and rotors??? think they quoted $850 inc labour (Southern X LR Toowoomba).
thanks, troy

[WhiteD3]

Justin
you suggest that you can get 2 lots of pads per rotor change. i just had the 36k sevice done and they said needed new pads and rotors??? think they quoted $850 inc labour (Southern X LR Toowoomba).
thanks, troy

$850 for 4 sets of pads and rotors? Sounds cheap. But why would you need rotors after 36,000 Kms?

[sheckster]

At this very moment, I'm getting all rotors and pads replaced (nearly 40k) for $1600, guys lubemobile are at my place. All parts OEM. I know it's a bit rich but time poor at the moment. I'm so trying hard to tell myself that it's ok so go easy on me...:-)

[Dirty3]

When I took my original D1 my LR dealer tolf me the rotors & pads had to be replaced at 50K, said I am hard on them! My D2 got to over 100K before having to replace rotors. Pads were done every 2nd to 3rd service. NExt service due at 170K will need to replace pads, rotors look fine, no scoring.
The last time I was told my rotors needed replacing I really questioned if they were that bad.....after some shucking & jiving the dealer said they could do till next service......like a previous post mentioned, question especially if late in the day or it's a Friday near the end of the month......every sale counts. Question pricing. My dealer last year was going to charge me $1600 for a fule cooling block....after some ringing around he got this down to $1000 fitted for the same part....different supplier. It pays to question sometimes.

[richard4u2]

repco have a deal going , if you sign up for e-mail promotions they will send you a voucher for 20% off for your next purchase

[dukemasterpro]

I've just come back from a dealer in Sydney who after dropping in the car ( I was 45 mins away ) called to suggest I needed new brake pads. With the outcome being $615 worse off tonight:twisted:

Now the car's a D4 with 23,000km on it in 23 months of mainly city use with occaisonal long trips. Is that sort of wear to be expected on the brake pads??:eek: this is my 3rd LR now and I don't recall changing pads as early on a D3 or RRS:confused:

[~Rich~]

Ouch, you may get better life out of your brakes if you use the same foot for accelerating and braking. ;)

[chuck]

I got 48,000 kms out of mine on a D3.
$1100.00 for pads & sensors including major service.

Regards

Chuck

[101RRS]

I got an advisory at 48,000km and expect to replace them at 60,000km

[rocmic]

I have replaced front pads twice, at 30000 and 68000km. The second job also included front rotors.
Just replaced the rear pads at 78000km for the first time. Costs I will have to wait until Monday o I can check the maintenance spreadsheet I keep at work.
Cheers
Mike

[Mike&Loz]

Now the car's a D4 with 23,000km on it in 23 months of mainly city use with occaisonal long trips. Is that sort of wear to be expected on the brake pads??:eek: this is my 3rd LR now and I don't recall changing pads as early on a D3 or RRS:confused:
I am wondering if the short life span of the original pads is similar to the short life span syndrome of OEM tyres. Most of us know that the original tyres only last around 40,000 sometimes a lot less. We generally get around double or more than that out of the replacement set. This is because the OEM set has less rubber on them. I'll just pick ToyNisUbishi as an example company.

They build say 200,000 cars of a particular model each requiring 5 tyres. Now if they were to purchase those tyres even at wholesale or maybe a bit better they'd probably still be up for a couple of hundred per tyre. So they chat up a tyre manufacturer and get a deal on 1 million tyres for as cheap as possible and tyre manufacturer says they can do them really cheap BUT they will only have 60% of the tread. DEAL :twisted: says ToyNisUbishi.

I've checked it out myself by measuring the tread depth of a tyre on a new car and checking the depth of the same model tyre at a tyre dealer and "TADA" :eek: more tread on the new tyre.

I am not saying this is the case but I wonder if this could be the same issue with OEM brake pads or maybe even the rotors. :wasntme:

[IvanR]

I have recently replaced front and rear pads and front rotors at 114000 country kms. (D3 purchased 2hand at 70000 kms). The rotors had not been replaced before, but the pads may been but no indication on the service record.
Pads were OEM, came from independent LR supplier in Melbourne and cost around $120 for front and $110 for rear and included clips and bolts (front). Front rotors were approx $230. The pads wear sensors (1 front LH, 1 rear RH) only need replacing if pad wear activates the dash light.
About the original tryes, I have one unused original goodyear(235-70-17) in the shed from the spare, and yes the tread depth is economical, about 8mm.

Ivan R

[djhampson]

I've bought brake pads for my D3 and my parents RRS and Freelander 2 from this ebay seller.

eBay My World - b4wdaust (http://myworld.ebay.com.au/b4wdaust)

Usually costs $80 for a set and they turn up next day. Changing the pads requires a few spanners and about 45 mins. Hardest part is jacking the car up and getting the wheels off.

Save yourself a lot of $s and DIY.

[RichardK]

I've bought brake pads for my D3 and my parents RRS and Freelander 2 from this ebay seller.

eBay My World - b4wdaust (http://myworld.ebay.com.au/b4wdaust)

Usually costs $80 for a set and they turn up next day. Changing the pads requires a few spanners and about 45 mins. Hardest part is jacking the car up and getting the wheels off.

Save yourself a lot of $s and DIY.

I agree, I do the same, I have bought a garage style jack that simplifies the lifting

[Neil P]

I looked at the "tread depth when new" threads some time ago :
MOST road tyres have 8-9mm ( 6-7mm usable ) OEM or famous
brands , whilst MOST mixed use replacements ( ie Cooper ATR )
have 11mm ( 9mm usable ) . It's just that road tyres are being
fitted to LR cars , whilst eg . 'cruiser etc have mixed use as OEM.
The makes used by LR for D3 over the years have all been road
tyres ; GY , Conti ....... They know the market they want to
target prefers road tyres . They're comparing with German , not
Jap competition.

[elsey]

G'day,

If you are not sure how to go about changing your brake pads there are detailed instructions on the UK forum.

DISCO3.CO.UK Photo Gallery - Bodsy's Brake Bible (http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4184)

Lou...

[TDV6]

As Elsey said "Bodsy's Brake Bible" has all the info that you need including the list of tools needed to do the job.

In February I replaced all my rotors and pads. I used drilled and slotted rotors costing $120 each and each set of pads cost $65 total cost of $610. A mate paid $75 a set from a different shop for the same "RDA Extreme Heavy Duty" pads.

Ryall

[White 110]

If it helps, my other half has a Mini with 44k on the clock and the main BMW Mini dealers in Brissy wanted a cool $1k for front discs and pads ONLY. Wot???

I assumed they meant it also included a service as well so I thought it was just about acceptable but nope, it was just for pads and discs. Yeah lads!!!!

I really wanted to do it myself but time pressures etc and the continuous flashing lights bells and whistles means you can't ignore it so I found the next BMW dealer who somehow managed to do it for $800, which I still thought was taking the p"ss, but the other half wasn't happy driving around with flashing lights demanding her to get a service immediately. Oh the joys of electronics. What ever happened to waiting till you heard the scraping sound of metal against metal? Then you knew you needed new pads. And you know what? We didn't kill ourselves or run into a tree.

[superquag]

. And you know what? We didn't kill ourselves or run into a tree.


But ze Dealers ver nacht so 'appy as zay are now,
- Dummkopf !!!