Canon EOS 1000D

[CraigE]

Anyone tried the new Canon EOS 1000D Digital Camera. Thinking of getting one with 18-55 and 75-300 lenses for $1149.

[dmdigital]

For not much more you can get the Nikon D60 or the EOS450. Both offer a few more advantages to the EOS1000. Worth comparing them anyway.

[Phoenix]

Mmm, I hadn't heard anything about this (not looked at anything photography for a while). I'll have to go have a look.

I have a 400D, and for what it is worth, it takes magnificent photos!

[feraldisco]

I'm currently considering one of the new Pentax 200Ds (not bad value at $699 inc lens) partly because I've got a few Pentax lenses. Given the impressive performance of compact digitals these days, I'm curious to hear feedback from people who use digital SLRs and compacts, including those that have taken the exact same pic with both for direct comparison. I realise that the SLR is able to capture a lot more light than a compact, and the flexibility that that allows, as well as presumably a large sensor to collect more information, as well as of course lens flexibility - BUT, do they take NOTICEABLY superior photos to justify the expense and lesser user-friendliness?

[loanrangie]

Anyone tried the new Canon EOS 1000D Digital Camera. Thinking of getting one with 18-55 and 75-300 lenses for $1149.

I would look at a 400/450D over the 1000 and opt for better lenses, the 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS are superior to the supplied kit lenses.
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[EchiDna]

How long do you plan to keep it?
and probably more importantly, do you already have any decent glass from one of the big guys? IMHO, the 400/450 is a better choice because of lower price and lack of a need for the extra features from the 1000 - as already mentioned by loanrangie.

However if you already have compatible lenses, then the differences are so minimal to most users that I would choose based on what you have.

Also, if the intention is to upgrade through the future, it's the lenses you will keep, not the body, so go with the body to suit the glass you want, regardless of brand. I personally would not buy lenses intended for 'digital' as full frame sensor SLRs will be in the consumer price bracket in another year or two and all those 'digital' lenses will be landfill.

[CraigE]

Apparently the 1000D has only just been released and is a replacement for the 400D so some say, others say it will sit alongside it. Looking at it with the twin lens kit for $1149. Either this or the Nikon D60 both similar in pricing around $1100 mark with twin lens kits.
I have been told Canon are easier to get repaired than Nikons?
From what I can gather should perform similar to the 450D. A friend has one of these.
Probablly price wise about my limit for now.
Anyone want to buy a Pentax SF7 (film camera);)

[dmdigital]

Don't know if you've looked at Canon EOS 1000D / Rebel XS Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1000d/)

The EOS1000D is actually a new model below the EOS450D. The Nikon D60 is the equal of the EOS450D.

[CraigE]

Just had a squizz at the catalogue. The EOS 40D is out as it is $2100 and dont quite want to spend that much yet.
The EOS 1000D is just about identical specs to the Nikon D60 and apparently similar to the 400D.
The EOS 1000D comes with EF-S 18-55mm and EF 75-300mm lenses. $1149. Canons new entry level SLR digital.
Nikon D60 comes with 18-55mm VR and 55-200mm VR lenses. $1099.
Also in the mix is the Pentax 200D at around $1000.

Decisions, decisions.
I still want something the wife can use easily too.

Thanks for the replies. Will probablly commit to one Monday (order).

[big guy]

I have a Nikon D70s with nikkor lens 18-55 or similar you can have for $500.
I have used it maybe 10 times.
Ultra 111 card. Loewe bag and all software and books. perfect cond.
I just don't use it.
Its a choice

[dmdigital]

The VR lenses you will find very good on the Nikon. If the Canon kit lenses aren't also image stabilised this would be a big plus.

Ergonomically I prefer Nikon over Canon, but that's a personal thing. I would strongly recommend that you have a play with both cameras if possible at a shop and see which "feels" better.

[abaddonxi]

Have a look at dcw -
Canon EOS Digital SLR Cameras - Digital Camera Warehouse Australia (http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/category521_1.htm)

Prices are about $100 better for 1000D and D60.

I've bought stuff there before and they're okay. They're just around the corner from my place. I'd be happy to to pick up and post on to you.

Simon

[300+]

Given the impressive performance of compact digitals these days, I'm curious to hear feedback from people who use digital SLRs and compacts, including those that have taken the exact same pic with both for direct comparison. I realise that the SLR is able to capture a lot more light than a compact, and the flexibility that that allows, as well as presumably a large sensor to collect more information, as well as of course lens flexibility - BUT, do they take NOTICEABLY superior photos to justify the expense and lesser user-friendliness?

I did this experiment and found a few things.

Firstly, for a snap on a bright day there is little in it. Most cameras are designed to take a good picture of a person in the sun. As the light fades, or the scene becomes complex in some way the DSLR wins out. The better metering and the ability to shoot in RAW means that you are much more likely to get a good pic. If you stick with a compact you will find more shots look washed out, not quite exposed correctly, etc. as you reach the edge of their capabilities.

Having said that, there are some very good compacts out there today which are extending their boundaries.

There are three things which make a good picture.

1: Lighting
2: The eye looking through the view finder

and a very distant 3rd is the technology.

To put this into perspective, my brother in law and I both have the same camera & lens and we were on holiday together. In some cases he took a better picture than me of the exact same scene. It was quite annoying...

On the same trip were some people with compact cameras and as the light fell or the longer zooms came out their photos were not so good. Reasons for this included shutter reaction time, better exposures, better lenses allowing higher shutter speeds, the people (those who were keen photographers had DSLRs...), etc.

Cheers, Steve

[noddy]

All I will say is at least pick up a Nikon before buying the Canon.

[feraldisco]

Just had a squizz at the catalogue. The EOS 40D is out as it is $2100 and dont quite want to spend that much yet.
The EOS 1000D is just about identical specs to the Nikon D60 and apparently similar to the 400D.
The EOS 1000D comes with EF-S 18-55mm and EF 75-300mm lenses. $1149. Canons new entry level SLR digital.
Nikon D60 comes with 18-55mm VR and 55-200mm VR lenses. $1099.
Also in the mix is the Pentax 200D at around $1000.

Decisions, decisions.
I still want something the wife can use easily too.

Thanks for the replies. Will probablly commit to one Monday (order).

until 7/9, Teds have the Pentax 200D with 18-55 for $699...

[loanrangie]

If you get the 1000D at least try to swap the kit lens for the 18-55 IS version, all the reviews i have read say it is about the best available in that focal /price range .

[BMKal]

I'm currently considering one of the new Pentax 200Ds (not bad value at $699 inc lens) partly because I've got a few Pentax lenses. Given the impressive performance of compact digitals these days, I'm curious to hear feedback from people who use digital SLRs and compacts, including those that have taken the exact same pic with both for direct comparison. I realise that the SLR is able to capture a lot more light than a compact, and the flexibility that that allows, as well as presumably a large sensor to collect more information, as well as of course lens flexibility - BUT, do they take NOTICEABLY superior photos to justify the expense and lesser user-friendliness?

I've just bought a 200D for exactly the same reasons. Have had a Z10 for years and have also accumulated a couple of lenses etc so thought I'd buy a DSLR that is compatible.

The lenses that I had for the Z10 were all Sigma, but the 200D comes with a Pentax lens as standard. So far (early days yet), I'm very happy with it. The Pentax lens is definitely better at wide angle shots than the similar Sigma.