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Sleepy
24th August 2008, 02:32 PM
Well what a trip.:):o:D:p:D
Having never towed anything bigger than a 6x4 I was a little nervous.
But the deal was done and I was off to meet Troy to pick up my new "olute".
Borrowed the car carrier from a friend at work, hooked it up to the 90, and zipped up the Hume towards sunny ol Wodonga.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/360.jpg
^^ insert olute here.
Arrived to meet Troy and his Dad. They watched in polite amusement as I tried to back up the trailer.:Rolling: :D I tried not to laugh at my own incompetence!! - lucky I don't do this for a living.
Got the ute up on the trailer - the ramps didn't bend too much:o:whistling:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/361.jpg
^^^proud new owner :) - now, how about that spring upgrade for the 90:o
Last tip from Troy - "Remember do everything SLOWLY" - That wasn't real hard. Acceleration was something akin to driving the Queen Mary. Stopping was something to plan well ahead;)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/362.jpg
^^ see ya Troy - I'll look after her :)
Headed off down the Hume - very slowly 80kmh stopping a few times to see how the load had settled. Didn't move an inch. Kept remembering about "the little train that could" as I approached each hill - I think I can, I think I can.
Kept glancing in the mirror - Felt like I was being tailgated by a Series 1 with an 8" lift and 36" boggers:eek:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/363.jpg
After about a 4 hour drive I arrived back in Melbourne battled through the bumper to bumper traffic to the smell of frying clutch and finally arrived home - found the beer fridge :beer: - and fell on the couch. What a long day.
She spent the first night on the street:o:(snuggled up with her new family:D (Also to stop someone unhitching her :mad: )
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/1176.jpg
Had a little trouble starting her this morning - :( I knew I should have paid more attention when Troy was explaining the fuel tank switch ;) Put some more fuel in - Hmmmm , capfull down the carby Brrrrrrummmmmmmmm:D:D:D
She's now residing in my unfinsihed (read unstarted:mad:) driveway........
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/364.jpg
...but not for long. I'll have to clean out the ol garage to make way for the new tenant.
I'm falling in love already:wub: (My wife = :Thump:)
Now to start a list.
Exhaust
Rear Tyres
Adjust Brakes
Tune up and service - thanks for the oil filter Troy:)
Indicators wired up
Rubbers
Maybe some fresh perspex here and there
Bumpers for the front wings.
Re-upholster seatsI'll keep you posted.
Thanks again Troy - She's a beaut!:BigThumb:
harry
24th August 2008, 03:11 PM
well, i don't think i have ever waited so long for a post to come down.
what a nice truck,
seeing as you have that in your garage, can i have the red one , please.
olmate
24th August 2008, 03:15 PM
Good on you Paul - You've done very well. :) You know that i'll be watching this thread very closely ;).
Shorty is at home now too so I had better get a couple of photos up before I get stuck into the home brew.
easo
24th August 2008, 06:27 PM
Sad to see it leave Troys hands as I was looking forward to a S1 day out at my mates in Jindra. But very happy to see her go to a fellow AULROian, you look proud as punch. Something satisfying about towing your pride and joy, seeing it following you everywhere. You get a good feeling as you pass other Land Rovers and get the occasional big wave back. I recon anyway. I love towing my S1 about.
Before I get too emotional, Easo
Outlaw
24th August 2008, 06:40 PM
Congratulations on your purchase and for getting her home safely :D:D:D
Shonky
24th August 2008, 08:30 PM
Congrats Paul!
Glad to see the beastie made it back okay. :) It's interesting towing cars around isn't it? Consider yourself lucky - at least you didn't have to tow Ol 'Ute through the Blue Mountains! :o
I might have to come all the way down there just to have a look-see! You can supply the beer - consider it a "spotters fee" :p
Congrats again mate. :D
Sleepy
24th August 2008, 08:53 PM
I might have to come all the way down there just to have a look-see! You can supply the beer
Sure - bring a trailer I've got lots of parts for your project - all bolted together ;)
Sleepy
24th August 2008, 10:26 PM
well, i don't think i have ever waited so long for a post to come down.
what a nice truck,
seeing as you have that in your garage, can i have the red one , please.
Ah you never know Harry - I'm starting to fall in love with the simple land rovers; The 90's running out of lease soon - What' are you offering?:p:D
P.S. I dropped the file size down a bit! - sorry bout that
Lotz-A-Landies
24th August 2008, 11:27 PM
Well what a trip.:):o:D:p:D
Having never towed anything bigger than a 6x4 I was a little nervous.
But the deal was done and I was off to meet Troy to pick up my new "olute". ...
... She spent the first night on the street:o:(snuggled up with her new family:D (Also to stop someone unhitching her :mad: )
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/310.jpg
...
... Thanks again Troy - She's a beaut!:BigThumb:
Reminds me of another pic I once saw .....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/558.jpg
Image: 11431225-1966 National Archives of Australia
Good to see a faithful old girl has been adopted by a loving family! :) :)
series1buff
25th August 2008, 06:48 PM
Reminds me of another pic I once saw .....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/558.jpg
Image: 11431225-1966 National Archives of Australia
Good to see a faithful old girl has been adopted by a loving family! :) :)
Diana's pic: Looks like two Thornycroft Antars pushing an pulling something . Possibly a SMHEA generator or bit of .
Trailering old cars home is one of those delights we all have done. My neighbour was doing it a few years ago , he had a ZL Fairlane behind his V8 XC falcon ... he happened to glance out the drivers window , only to see the trailer , with the ZL on board , in the process of overtaking him !!!! Yikes , he exclaimed. He watched the trailer career into the bush where it came to rest . This all happened on our little used dirt back road into town .
An alternative to trailering your gem home is : Get a 7 day permit and drive it home .. it's legal and many have done it . Of course, the car has to be in good shape and in safe shape .
I think flat towing is frowned on these days .. you don't see it anymore , around here anyway . Back in 1979, my friends and I flat towed a 1941 Dodge 4X4 , with a Chevy Blitz artillery tractor , from Creswick to Outer Eastern Melbourne. Young and silly !
Lotz-A-Landies
25th August 2008, 06:52 PM
Yes Mike two Thornycroft Antars and correct with a SMHEC generator component.
By the time of these pics the Antar's Rover V8 petrol engines had been replaced with Rolls Royce diesels.
But didn't you think the Defender 90 with the trailer and S1 ute and the Disco pushed right up the back reminded you of the Antar pic?
Diana
Sleepy
25th August 2008, 06:59 PM
But didn't you think the Defender 90 with the trailer and S1 ute and the Disco pushed right up the back reminded you of the Antar pic?
Diana
I could have used the Disco on a few of those hills too:D
Shonky
25th August 2008, 08:02 PM
I could have used the Disco on a few of those hills too:D
...or a pair of Thornys!
Shonky
25th August 2008, 08:08 PM
Sure - bring a trailer I've got lots of parts for your project - all bolted together ;)
We've discussed this - you know I would only end up keeping it as another project! :angel:
Please - let me finish this one first before you ruin me again! :o
olmate
28th August 2008, 05:48 PM
Come on Paul - wheres the goss??? :) I was thinking that we would be seeing photos and plans and suff ;)
Sleepy
28th August 2008, 08:21 PM
Working extra hours trying to pay for her ;)
I wish I was as organised as you Troy. Unfortunately it'll be a couple of weekends of clearing out the garage and arranging things.
My priority at this stage is to get olute out of the weather and into the garage. Next I need to sell on of my Series 2's to make some more room.
Probably stick that in ebay soon!
I may start a few of the easier jobs while I'm waiting - eg: reupholstering.
Also I'm gonna fit some seat belts -- I know it's a little un-authentic but living in the city.......
Then I want to get into the elctrickery of the blinkers, this will be a bit of a challenge for me but I'm determined to work it all out. Multi-meter is my friend ;)
Once I've got her in the garage I'm gonna have a go at the carby and tune her up, adjust brakes.
I'm learning as I go so it won't be a swift process :D
Lotz-A-Landies
28th August 2008, 08:37 PM
I could have used the Disco on a few of those hills too:D
...or a pair of Thornys!
I think I would rather pay the fuel for the Disco than the fuel bill for a pair of 18.4 litre V8 Antars! :( :( :(
Shonky
29th August 2008, 08:24 AM
I think I would rather pay the fuel for the Disco than the fuel bill for a pair of 18.4 litre V8 Antars! :( :( :(
:eek::eek::eek:
ellard
29th August 2008, 07:08 PM
Hi there
I am happy the ute has ended up at a good home - whats your plans with it..............
Its in bloody good condition as it is - but I am not a big fan of the Holden conversions..........possible putting the original engine back in,,,,,,,
All the best
Wayne
Sleepy
30th August 2008, 09:06 AM
Its in bloody good condition as it is - but I am not a big fan of the Holden conversions..........possible putting the original engine back in,,,,,,,
G'day Wayne,
I'm very much a novice with series Landies so I am glad to get one that is 95% roadworthy. Lot's of learning to do:D
I plan to fix up the few fiddly jobs left. Blinkers, General tune-up and adjust, and then get her on the road. I plan to use her for fun - just trundle around on a Sunday afternoon with a smile on my face :)
Long term dreams woud be to bring it back to original but this would involve locating an original 2L engine and some other bits and peices.
Olute has such a lovely S3 gearbox (Troy said it's only done 20,000km - and it feels great:D) and fully floating rear end which is all in lovely condition so would be a shame to replace just for the sake of originality.
I'll keep my eye out for a donor and who know's what will appear over the next few years. A rusty 55 107 may pop up with all the bits I need - with any luck!
Short term I've got to get my garage cleaned out so I can get her out of the weather:D Always the boring jobs first:mad:
Lotz-A-Landies
30th August 2008, 11:46 AM
... Olute has such a lovely S3 gearbox (Troy said it's only done 20,000km - and it feels great:D) and fully floating rear end which is all in lovely condition so would be a shame to replace just for the sake of originality....
Fully floating rear axles were optional equipment in 1957 and available for retrofitting to earlier vehicles, so why not leave it as is!
Unless someone drives it, no one will know about the SIII gearbox and if you do put a 2 litre IOE engine back in you can swap the bellhousing and clutch withdrawal off a late SIIa 6 cyl to fit the SIII box.
Diana
olmate
30th October 2008, 06:11 PM
Hey Paul - How is the ol ute going ? Any photos or the like to show us ?:)
Sleepy
30th October 2008, 08:51 PM
Two months and haven't really done much. Fiddled around with the blinkers but I have been offered the services of an electrician friend - As much as I want to learn-as-I-go I think I'll get some expert help for the elctrickery!
I am patiently waiting for my driveway/carport to be finished - should have been done in June but being stuffed around:mad:
Signed the plans off, finally!, so hope to have that all done by Xmas - I'll believe it when I see it! That'll give me a good spot out of the weather. OLute is living in the shed but is only small and no rooom to work in there!
So - sold off the Series 2 (and donor) to "Supermodel" who is a relatively new member of aulro. That'll give me a bit more space (and a few more dollars to spend on Olute:D). I think I'll start up a list of what I need to do and then post up for some advice. As you know there is not a lot to do - but working so much lately - not getting much time for landrovering!
I'll take some pictures this weekend and post up a few questions!
I am somewhat jealous of your progress on Shorty! You make it look so easy!:)
olmate
2nd November 2008, 06:33 PM
Look forward to some pics Paul :D
Sleepy
4th November 2008, 12:01 AM
I'm shagged - Two days of building garage doors and sorting out all the stuff* I keep in the shed. It's only a single car garage (an old fibro one from the 60's) but it's now easy to drive Olute in and out.:)
Sorting out tools too and it looks like I'll need to purchase some more as most of mine are metric- anyone with any suggestions on a basic tool kit for a series 1 would be appreciated
Nonetheless it's great to get all the tools in one place - now I can find things!!;)
Gotta work tomorrow :( but only 5 hours so should get time for a few piccies of my handywork and olute's nice clean shed.:)
No excuses now for getting on with Olute's preparation for rego!
* stuff [stuhf]
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Mick-Kelly
4th November 2008, 05:08 AM
Sorting out tools too and it looks like I'll need to purchase some more as most of mine are metric- anyone with any suggestions on a basic tool kit for a series 1 would be appreciated
i'll second that
Shonky
4th November 2008, 08:24 AM
i'll second that
I'll second your second.
chazza
4th November 2008, 08:24 AM
Sorting out tools too and it looks like I'll need to purchase some more as most of mine are metric- anyone with any suggestions on a basic tool kit for a series 1 would be appreciated
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Paul, I have survived well with these tools, for about 30 years of fiddling with cars glued together with Whitworth-based fasteners.
1. A small box of BS sockets from Sidchrome 1/4" up to 1/2".
2. About 4 open-ended spanners in the same sizes as above.
3. A handful of large size BS sockets and two very large BS open-enders that I bought at a stock clearance sale years ago.
4. A set of P&N BSF taps and dies in four common sizes, supplemented with
9/16" and 3/16" as needed.
They are the only "specialist" tools that we need really, although not so long ago everyone had them, but for some reason the manufacturers seem to have given up making them (except for the threading tools). A good place to look for them is in second-hand stores, they are the sort of thing that end up there when Grandad dies and no one knows what to do with the stuff in his shed. One of the good points is that they are usually of good quality; as cheap Japanese, or Chinese spanners were virtually unknown in the 1950/60's.
Apart from that, you need the normal workshop tools that you probably already have and you will need to make, or borrow the jigs and tools to work on the axles, diffs, transfer box and engine; or pay someone to do it for you. If you haven't got it already, the TP138 workshop manual available from the S1 club in England, has drawings of the special tools with dimensions - the later manual I originally had does not have the drawings,
Cheers Charlie
Sleepy
4th November 2008, 07:20 PM
Thanks Chazza,
I must join the Series 1 club - I have had that advice before.
Will also start looking for some quality tools - I must admit much of my "collection" of tools are cheap and nasty - Time to start seeding SWMBO with my christmas wish list :D:D
....and a trip down to cash converters!
Sleepy
12th December 2008, 12:31 PM
Working a lot of weekends and nights so easy to make excuses but finally got a few days off:D.
I am very much a novice so please excuse the basicality of my approach!;)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/719.jpg
Note: Workshop supervisor (Max) suggesting we should be playing ball!:angel:
It's not a big area I have got to work in but is cosy and now that I have my tools organised I have just enough room if I back her half out.;)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1052.jpg
I am determined to learn how this all works so coming from a low knowledge base I expect progress will be a bit slow :( but I am patient.
First the electrickery.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1053.jpg
With the multimeter and a bit of fingers (and wires) crossed I have worked out some of it.
Wired up the horn:D.
Next is the indicators:
Put some power to the circuit and.... :cool:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1054.jpg
Now all of got to do is work out how to make them flash.:p
I've got no idea where the flasher relay is....or if it has one!
These are the wires coming from the indicator stalk:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1055.jpg
Centre wire (Green/Brown) and Green/Red gives me a closed circuit with left selected.
Centre wire (Green/Brown) and Green/White gives me a closed circuit with right selected.
Haven't worked out what the Red/Black and White/Black do yet.
I've also got to other pairs of wires coming from the bulkhead - two to the right are marked "perm live" and another red and black pair that have no current regardless of ignition position or lights.:(:blink:
Anyone with any tips, ' be happy to hear them :)
I noticed this hose below the thremostat housing is a half collapsed:(:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/597.jpg
- will probably need something with a U shape.
Right rear hub is leaking a bit:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1056.jpg
I can't imagine this is a big job but nonetheless something new to learn how to do!
Rubber door seals are in need of replacement. (As is most of the body rubber!)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1057.jpg
Found a place on the net Scott's Old Auto Rubber (http://www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/) , just up the road from me. Don't no anything about them other than they are close and they have the Series 1 rubber advertised - also new boots for the Lucas L489 side lights (at $30 bucks each:eek:)
Other jobs:
Speedo - needle has fallen off - could probably repair this one but picked one up on e-bay for not much yesterday;)
Seat belts,
Brake lights
Right rear tail light U/S (yeah I checked the bulb:p)
New exhaust bracket (and maybe some exhaust replace!)
Upholstery - emailed Exmoor yesterday to see if they have retrim kit!
Probably need to buy myself a Holden workshop manual for the 202. Have started looking for an original 2 litre motor but the 202 will do for now.
So, not a lot done but I am slowly getting my head around it all.
At least I got the horn working:D:angel:
Shonky
12th December 2008, 12:48 PM
Yay! Good to see progress. :D
It's always difficult sorting things out for the first time - note that I haven't so much as touched the electrics on either Gus or Ambrose... :angel:
Someone up North offered me a 2L for Gus in his thread - I won't take it as I am using a 2.25 so maybe you might be interested?
On another note - damn Ol Ute is one handsome old truck!
PS - it looks like your dog is eating your whipper snipper. :lol2:
Sleepy
12th December 2008, 12:56 PM
Someone up North offered me a 2L for Gus in his thread - I won't take it as I am using a 2.25 so maybe you might be interested?
I am told your GUS would have had the later 2Litre whereas I think olute would have had the earlier 2l. I know little about them other than I'll try an get the correct one!! Got to work out what that is yet!
Paging Diana......:angel:
Shonky
12th December 2008, 01:00 PM
Fair enough. I know little about the 2L aswell - haven't had a need to as yet.
The one that was floating around may well have been an early one - I only got that it was a 2L. I'm sure there are closer ones down your way anyway. ;)
olmate
12th December 2008, 04:21 PM
Thanks for the photos Paul :D
I shall search my notes in the shed about the wiring for the indicators but I reckon you now know as much as I did. The heater hose under the thermostat housing was originally run to the two inlets on the manifold (at the base of the carby). Doubled up this way as I ran out of heater hose and did not get 'back to complete it'.
If you have any questions mate - give me a buzz and I will help out where I can.
She is looking very nice fella :thumbsup:
Sleepy
14th December 2008, 06:33 PM
Well I can now turn corners legally. (Well not quite cos I'm still not registered ...but you get my drift!)
There is something about "dropping out the dash" in a series 1 that I just love.
5 bolts and your done!:D.
Found the flasher unit, replaced it, bit of head scratching (actually a day and a half!) Jumping wires around, more head scratching and I 've got it all worked out. She now flashes and toots!:thumbsup::BigThumb:
Wiring still looks a bit dodgy so I'll have to tidy that up......but it works.:D
Next job. Brakes!
olmate
14th December 2008, 07:24 PM
Well done mate :D:D:D
With the brakes - first take a look at the adjustment of the master cylinder as the rest have been replaced and bled pretty well. Remembering rightly, I had gone too far with the adjustment of the master cylinder and had not taken it back. ;)
Sleepy
20th December 2008, 09:58 PM
Well, all the lights are operative. ;)
Fixed the right hand rear tail light - wire had come loose - easy fix.:D
Brakes lights weren't operating - cleaned the switch - all OK.:D
Bought myself a Holden manual so I can understand the 202 a bit better.
Temp gauge (afteramarket) doesn't appear to be operating so will have to fiddle with that.
Gave her a good clean (and a bit of polish) so she's coming up real schmick - I'll get her out in the sun tomorrow for a few pics.
Jobs left before I attempt roadworthy:
Exhaust - currently exits ahead of rear wheel - not sure if that is ok.
Seatbelts - fit 2 x lap sash and centre lap.
Brakes - adjust
Getting closer :cool:
olmate
21st December 2008, 06:18 PM
You are coming along well Paul :D Cant wait to here that its on the road.;)
pop058
21st December 2008, 08:16 PM
I noticed this hose below the thremostat housing is a half collapsed:(:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/597.jpg
- will probably need something with a U shape.
dont get too excited about the U shape hose. They are the heater ports for the GMH fit. quite common to "bypass" the heater this way when they start leaking.
Paul
Sleepy
5th January 2009, 08:14 PM
Not too much progress as I have been working over the festive season :(.
So I thought I'd stick up a few shots anyway!
Ordered some front parking lights as the rubber had perished badly. Lucas L489. Turned out cheaper to buy the complete housing and rubber
Found this mob Morris Minor Parts - Spares - Sales - G S Jones - UK (http://www.morrisminor.uk.com/) on the net and their prices for lucas lights are quite good and delivered with 2 weeks (at Xmas time!).
Picked up a new lens on ebay all done.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/10/433.jpg
Have continued with the cleaning and detailing process.
Cleaned all the galv. with some scotchbrite and vinegar - worked pretty well.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1568.jpg
Picked up some wing buffers and removed the bonnet buffers. Painted the mirror arms black. (If it moves grease it, if it stays still paint it black;))
Looks better than rusty chrome but will get them rechromed - one day!:angel:
Need some new bonnet buffers now. Not as easy as I thought to get hold of.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/699.jpg
Sent one of the seats off to the upholsterer to "see what he can do".
I'm gonna go for the green. Another mate who is a wheel chair designer is going to do the foam bases. :)
And got some help from Max - or is he just showing off his summer hair cut;)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/283.jpg
olmate
6th January 2009, 08:12 AM
Very nice Paul :thumbsup: You are doing a top job mate - she is lookg A1 ;)
Sleepy
11th March 2009, 03:04 PM
Ok, it's been bit quiet on the Ol'ute front lately so a bit of an update and a question or two on brakes.
Haven't done much work, as you can see by the 2 months gap. The seats are off with the upholsterer - who lives near Marysville.:o I was a bit worried that they may have been incinerated in the bushfires , but luckily they are OK. The upholsterer, however, has lost a couple of sheds and has been very busy with other bushfire clean up priorities, so I have told him not to hurry.
Meanwhile back in the shed.
Today we (Sleepy's Old Man and I) had a go a bleeding the brakes. Mmmmm. We bled and bled but no good. Brake peddle still goes 80% in and still needs to be pumped to get some firmness.
When we clamped the rear brakes off and everything was FIRM:), so we figure there still must be some air down the back. More bleeding and adjusting....still no luck. Any idea on what to look at next - I would appreciate it.
There doesn't appear to be any leaks so not sure what is going on.:confused:
Front brakes were not as we expected. They appear to have dual wheel cylinders (see photo) with a different adjustment bolts (x2) - I was expecting single cylinders like the rear (and as indicated in the manual) Cant find reference to dual wheel cylinders - is that Series 2/3 stuff???
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/1021.jpg
Front NS Wheel taken from the rear of axle.
Jock The Rock
11th March 2009, 04:16 PM
Hey mate
I only just saw your thread :)
I want one of those Series I's :) there is one for sale in original condition but I just cant get hold of the owner :(
I think I almost prefer them to an 80' :o :D
And that thing you said in the first post about being tailgated by a Series I, well..... I know the feeling
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/687.jpg
Xtreme
11th March 2009, 04:35 PM
.......
Meanwhile back in the shed.
Today we (Sleepy's Old Man and I) had a go a bleeding the brakes. Mmmmm. We bled and bled but no good. Brake peddle still goes 80% in and still needs to be pumped to get some firmness.
When we clamped the rear brakes off and everything was FIRM:), so we figure there still must be some air down the back. More bleeding and adjusting....still no luck. Any idea on what to look at next - I would appreciate it.
There doesn't appear to be any leaks so not sure what is going on.:confused:
.................
I seem to recall with some of the Series vehicles (not sure if it applied to the Series I though) that there was a problem when bleeding the brakes due to the angle of the master cylinder. Air used to get trapped in there and could only be bled out by either a pressure bleed of by jacking the front of the vehicle about 3' off the ground.
Someone more familiar with the Series vehicles will no doubt either confirm of deny this.
Roger
Sleepy
11th March 2009, 05:01 PM
I seem to recall with some of the Series vehicles (not sure if it applied to the Series I though) that there was a problem when bleeding the brakes due to the angle of the master cylinder. Air used to get trapped in there and could only be bled out by either a pressure bleed of by jacking the front of the vehicle about 3' off the ground.
Yeah, I read that in the manual too. But when we clamped off the rear end and it the brakes became firm -- the assumption we made was that the air is in the rear end somewhere. :confused: May need to try that next though.
Sleepy
11th March 2009, 05:06 PM
I think I almost prefer them to an 80' :o :D
And that thing you said in the first post about being tailgated by a Series I, well..... I know the feeling
Well there you go Jock - I have been following your adventures too. :D
I've just bought a 109 S3 so I'm also planning to work up my expedition vehicle too! Looked very closely at a Defender 110 hardtop like yours but like the idea of a S3!
Yes I love the 107".......but wouldn't mind a 80 also.....:angel:
Ahhh, you can never have too many Land Rovers!
101RRS
11th March 2009, 05:59 PM
Hi Sleepy - I had this problem with my very first series 1 and more recently my 101.
You need to check that there is enough meat on the brake shoes - if it is low compared to the dia of the drum then the first pump of pedal the just moves the shoes out to the drum and then the second works - mimics air in the system.
Now - you may have new shoes but the drums may be into oversize territory. On my series 1 I bought new shoes and had the problem and after a lot of research at the time I put in oversize shoes and problem fixed.
With my 101 I bought oversize shoes to go on but still could not get a good pedal and the drums were just within on on the limit. A new set of drums and all was OK - I must have put through about 10 litres of brake fluid over 2 weeks trying to get rid of the imaginary air in the system.
Cheers
Garry
chazza
12th March 2009, 08:11 AM
Good advice from Garry.
Try also stamping on the pedal as hard as you can when you bleed it. I have had three successes with this method on a 2a and two S3's,
Cheers Charlie
Lost Landy
14th March 2009, 07:46 PM
Hi, what cond are the rubber flexable brake lines in? the reason I ask is with my old series 1 109" I had the same problem, thought there was air still in the system. Got it preasure bleed and still no better. Then while I was bleeding the rear wheel cyls, I could feel the rubber lines expanding and contracting when the pedal was pushed in and out. Put in new rubber lines and problem solved. Might be worth have a look at your rubber flexi lines.
Sleepy
15th March 2009, 05:37 PM
Hi, what cond are the rubber flexable brake lines in? the reason I ask is with my old series 1 109" I had the same problem, thought there was air still in the system. Got it preasure bleed and still no better. Then while I was bleeding the rear wheel cyls, I could feel the rubber lines expanding and contracting when the pedal was pushed in and out. Put in new rubber lines and problem solved. Might be worth have a look at your rubber flexi lines.
Thanks LL, The lines aren't the newest although they don't feel too bad. Also where I clamped, the remainder of the line is solid. I will try chazza's "stamping" method next, then I will pull the rear drums off and have a better inspection - this will have to wait until I have a bit more room :(
numpty
22nd March 2009, 04:37 PM
Sounds like you have later model (S2) brakes, as a 107 should only have a single wheel cylinder both front and rear.
Lost Landy
22nd March 2009, 07:58 PM
Sounds like you have later model (S2) brakes, as a 107 should only have a single wheel cylinder both front and rear.
That is not totaly correct. Only the first 1000 Land Rover 107" pick ups had the same 10" brakes used on the 86" with the single wheel cyl per wheel. It was later in 1954 the 107" pick up brakes went to 11" drums with twin wheel cyl up front and larger single cyl at the rear, they also increaced the payload due to having larger brakes fitted.
JDNSW
22nd March 2009, 08:12 PM
Sounds like you have later model (S2) brakes, as a 107 should only have a single wheel cylinder both front and rear.
That is not totaly correct. Only the first 1000 Land Rover 107" pick ups had the same 10" brakes used on the 86" with the single wheel cyl per wheel. It was later in 1954 the 107" pick up brakes went to 11" drums with twin wheel cyl up front and larger single cyl at the rear, they also increaced the payload due to having larger brakes fitted.
Correct. Most 107 had 11" two leading shoe brakes, similar to, but not the same as Series 2/2a/3.
John
numpty
23rd March 2009, 03:41 PM
That is not totaly correct. Only the first 1000 Land Rover 107" pick ups had the same 10" brakes used on the 86" with the single wheel cyl per wheel. It was later in 1954 the 107" pick up brakes went to 11" drums with twin wheel cyl up front and larger single cyl at the rear, they also increaced the payload due to having larger brakes fitted.
I stand corrected.......what comes with looking at the wrong page in the catalogue and not reading properly.
I was aware that they have 11" brakes.
chris1983rangie
26th March 2009, 10:00 PM
Hi Paul,
Nice Landy, very straight body. What is the turning circle like?
I like the Canvas Top, who made it?
I have a similar one one my 2a, 109. I had it made by Ian Davis in
Koo Wee Rup.
cheers,
Chris
Sleepy
30th March 2009, 01:47 PM
What is the turning circle like?
I like the Canvas Top, who made it?
G'day Chris,
Yes it is very straight - a couple of scars here and there but pretty much original..
Turning ....ummm....is something you have to plan for;)
Can't tell you much about the canvas - it was on the ute when I bought it from olmate last year.
Sleepy
19th August 2009, 09:46 AM
Well thought I'd do a bit of an update now I am 12 months into owning Olute.
:whistling::whistling:
Got a bit of builder problems (unfortunately ugly, requiring legal action :mad:) so haven't got an undercover work area - not great in Melbourne:(. Hopefully with the warmer weather on the way I will be able to get out in the sun and have another go at those brakes.
Spent a bit of time with the S3 (Scruby) so Olute has been tucked up in the shed..:(
Still haven't had much luck tracking down a 2l IOE engine. Found one in a wreck in Hamilton but was completely seized and probably beyond my novice abilities. So after being inspired, yet again, by Shonky's work on GUS, I may go for a 2.25L :angel:
After all Olute is somewhat of a modern S1 (Having, S3 gearbox and brakes) so why not. (How about a Tdi?.........Hmmmmmmm:twisted:)
Got my seat backs recovered and they look great .
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/871.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/872.jpg
They look grey in these photos but are really a pale green - not quite as green as the originals.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/873.jpg
He even powder coated the brackets. Nice job.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/874.jpg
I'll get the bases this week hopefully so I will pop them in for a bit of motivation. (and some more pics)
Shonky
19th August 2009, 11:51 AM
Seats look FANTASTIC! :D
I'm not up on Series Is, but being a '55 model Ol' Ute would have had a spreadbore 2L right? :confused:
I will keep an eye out up here for you if you want?
A 2.25 wouldn't look out of place either I suppose. :)
I'm going pic hunting. I love that old beast of yours and I want to see more of it than just the seats. :angel:
Shonky
19th August 2009, 11:52 AM
double post
Sleepy
19th August 2009, 12:34 PM
Seats look FANTASTIC! :D
I'm not up on Series Is, but being a '55 model Ol' Ute would have had a spreadbore 2L right? :confused:
I will keep an eye out up here for you if you want?
A 2.25 wouldn't look out of place either I suppose. :)
I'm going pic hunting. I love that old beast of yours and I want to see more of it than just the seats. :angel:
Thanks Shonky, yes she is a beaut ute. After first thinking it would have had an earlier siamese bore, I have worked out it would have been the the spread bore 2L - which was probably the better of the the 2 - if you can find one.
But as you have found, the 2 and a quarter is probably a little easier to source and find bits for. I would be happier with a Land Rover powerplant!
I"ll back her out next weekend and take a few fresh pictures - and more shots of the seats ....hehehehe
ellard
19th August 2009, 02:41 PM
hi there Paul
If you need an engine - I have 2lt here I was going to scrap....was out of a 56 SWB
It was a runner but it got hot......and head gasket is shot...
Again for a few beers its yours but it will need re-building or checking - its not much but its a start if its any help.
Again all the best - and looking great
Wayne
Sleepy
19th August 2009, 03:42 PM
Geez that's great Wayne - I'll send you a PM.
chris1983rangie
19th August 2009, 04:25 PM
Hi Paul,
Olute's coming up great, keep up the work....!
cant wait to see it one day.
has it got a 202 under the hood....?
are you a member of LROCV? do you go to the monthly meets?
if so id like to introduce myself and say hello chat bout the Landy's...!
cheers,
:cool: Chris
Sleepy
19th August 2009, 04:32 PM
G'day Chris,
Yes she has a nice 202, which I'll probably leave in there for a while. It runs fine but would love to eventually return it to Solihull product.
Olute is not yet registered - still haven't worked out how to firm up those rear brakes - may have to take it to an expert.
Yes I am in the LROCV, #854- although never seems to make it to the meetings. I often start work at 0600 so often don't make it past 9pm ...hehehe (Living up to my name!)
I went on quite a few trips in 2002 and 2003 although can't seem to find much time now I'm on shift work.
Paul
olmate
19th August 2009, 06:38 PM
Paul,
Great looking seat backs mate :thumbsup: They are going to look great in Ol ute.
Keep the photos coming :ohyes:
chris1983rangie
20th August 2009, 11:31 AM
Cool no worries, yeah i know how that feels some times i have to work back late and tend to miss the meets aswell. hey one thing good about the holdens is that you can cruise up hills with plenty of power.........!:D
cheers,
Chris
LRO53
20th August 2009, 08:37 PM
hey one thing good about the holdens is that you can cruise up hills with plenty of power.........!:D
cheers,
Chris
I can cruise up hills fine in my 2.0L 53... It's got plenty of power without putting unnecessary strain on my gearbox/axles.
Jock The Rock
24th August 2009, 06:09 PM
Looking good Paul
Better than my seats in Ernie :)
I need to do some work too :( just finding the undercover space is hard atm. Been raining non stop here for over a week
Sleepy
24th August 2009, 06:16 PM
I know how you feel Jock. Can't wait for a roof on my Carport. Lucily I have some concrete, so that is a start.
Got 2 days off and the forecast is for more rain :( bugger.
I will pull oulte out tomorrow for some more shots with the new camera :)
Sleepy
31st August 2009, 01:17 PM
Good news from the builder. Says he is putting the roof on the carport next week. I'll believe it when I see it. Funny how they suddenly find the time when they get a letter from a solicitor:mad::(
So with the drizzly rain haven't had a chance to get out and work. :(
The seat bases are nearly done. Got a sneak peak. :)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/79.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/08/80.jpg
These are all new bases that my wheelchair building buddy has knocked up. Pretty nice for a first effort at car seats - I suggested to him he should branch out.:ohyes:
ellard
31st August 2009, 02:14 PM
Hi there
Very flash for a Series One.......
Wayne
chris1983rangie
31st August 2009, 04:38 PM
Hey they look very comfy, i bet theyll serve well on Long trips mate.....:thumbsup:
Chris
Sleepy
31st August 2009, 08:46 PM
Yes they are very comfy - I had a bit of a sit on his floor.
He re-covered the backs but made new bases - I still have the original bases.
I think he has forgotton the locating pins on the back of the bases . :(
Don't think I"ll complain as I am getting this job at mates rates. I'm sure I can fabricate something to locate the bases. (Maybe some big slabs of velcro :lol2:)
chris1983rangie
1st September 2009, 12:36 PM
cool, velco is a great invention. Velcro is used in commercial aircraft to stick those big plastic panels inside the cabin. :o
Chris
Sleepy
13th September 2009, 04:42 PM
Popped the seats in today. Wow what a difference. I am sure my bum-bones will appreciate. They look pretty nice too.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/09/1031.jpg
Steve, who makes wheel chairs, crafted new bases with the curved bases used in wheelchairs. They are very comfy. Giving me the impetuous to get moving on Olute again. :-)
101RRS
13th September 2009, 05:19 PM
They look great - you need to now do the backs to put some pleats in.
Garry
chris1983rangie
13th September 2009, 07:56 PM
great, your mate did a top job on them. What is that Pipe for?
the one that is at the bottom of the seat back and runs along the back tub?
Chris:cool:
JDNSW
14th September 2009, 05:30 AM
I'm not sure it still qualifies as a Series 1 with those seats! :angel:
John
Shonky
14th September 2009, 07:37 AM
Looks great Sleeps! :D
Sleepy
14th September 2009, 08:38 PM
great, your mate did a top job on them. What is that Pipe for?
the one that is at the bottom of the seat back and runs along the back tub?
Chris:cool:
The pipe is dual tank filler. Rather strange set-up - primary filler at head height behind driver - feeds into 2 tanks with a simple t-piece pipe. Seems to work ok - not sure how to only fill one tank - park on a slope I s'pose.
I'm not sure it still qualifies as a Series 1 with those seats! :angel:
John
Yes Olute does have a few modern conveniences. Poufy seats, synchro S3 gearbox and brakes.
chris1983rangie
15th September 2009, 03:40 PM
thats a clever idea....with the dual tank filler pipe!
talking about filling up series one's, has anyone hever been told off at the Servo for filling up in the car? i just did on the weekend the Lady told me off for filling up in the car. "hey you, not allowed to fill up petrol in the car" i said sorry miss, but my fuel tank is under the seat. i had to show them to actually beleive me...............aye my Karamba! LoL :D
Chris
Sleepy
17th March 2010, 09:48 PM
Well it's time for Olute to find another new home. Just wasn't spending much time with it. :angel: Got a good price on ebay so can't complain. :)
olmate
21st March 2010, 07:12 PM
Well done Paul ;) If it is the fella who you pm'd about - I do hope to see the old girl up this way soon :D:D:D
Kinda reminds me that I need a new 80" project vehicle :o
Sleepy
21st March 2010, 07:20 PM
Yes Troy,
He tells me it is headed back to Albury. I'll pass on your number as you suggested. Pick up Wednesday. I'll grab some more photos then too.:)
Sleepy
24th March 2010, 04:18 PM
Well, there ends another chapter in Olute's life. Nice bloke bought it for his father. Headed off up the road to Heathcote, then Albury. I've let him know about aulro so hopefully he will turn up here - with pics :p
Kind of sad to see it go but time for someone else to enjoy it.
(Mmmm, There is a nice 86" on ebay:angel:;))
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