Adelaide and Perth, here we come!

[p38arover]

Well, not right now but be have booked our cabin on the Indian Pacific - one has to book well ahead..

Elisabeth and I will be leaving Sydney on 4th March 2009 and will stay about three weeks after arriving in the West. We are taking our car (Forester) so we can tour. Then we return to Adelaide to spend a week in SA, then back onto the Indian Pacific to come back to Sydney.

We are doing this whilst I'm still working for the railways and can get the very substantial staff discount. There's no way I could afford the full fare of about $9,500 - yep, $9500 for a sleeper in Gold Kangaroo class. :eek:

I really don't know how people afford full fare but the train books out months in advance. If we sat up all the way, we could travel almost for free (plus fuel surcharge).

Taking the car is the cheap bit - $300 over to the West and $100 back!

The scary bit is that in the 38+ years we've been married, we've never been on a holiday of this length together. In fact, we've never been a holiday of this length. We also usually take our holidays separately. I'm not sure we can put up with each other for a month.

Divorce may result. We look at it as a precursor to a possible trip to Europe. Elisabeth would like to go back to Switzerland for a look around at her birthplace. I'd like to have a look at Switzerland, too. However, I may not go as I'm really not that interested in travelling overseas. I did overseas trips in my last job. It could be that we can't put up with each other for that long on a holiday.

[Narangga]

Bloody fantastic - good on ya.

If you've planned enough to book it that far ahead I'm sure you'll plan to give yourselves time together and time for separate interests so the divorce isn't really an option :D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The PAIR of you will be fine,,,

It'll be a new experience, holidaying together,,

the only thing about a train trip--


you can run

but

you cant hide

:p

[Narangga]

The PAIR of you will be fine,,,

It'll be a new experience, holidaying together,,

the only thing about a train trip--


you can run

but

you cant hide

:p

Not even in the driver's cab ... :angel::angel::angel:

[p38arover]

At least the train's got a bar so I can get a drink or three when she starts to drive me to it! :D

[isuzurover]

Sounds good - let me know when you will be in Perth, and we can get the WAulroians together for a drink.

[Tombie]

At least the train's got a bar so I can get a drink or three when she starts to drvie me to it! :D

And what a great bar it is..

Me and 'the boys' drank it dry by Kalgoorlie last time I went on it.

And I mean, all the spirits, all the beer, then the light beer, then the wine, then the port.... :D


As for spending that much time together....

My wife and I love each other very much...
But when we get 5-10 days off we cant stand it :eek:

Just so used to seeing each other in little bursts that longer runs are awkward....

We're going to the Gold Coast for Masters in November... Hopefully we wont kill each other :angel:

[Blknight.aus]

Ron ,you'll have to stop in on dad at some point enjoy the trip, I did when i did it with the missus after we got back for doing our bit for the country on foriegn shores. (might even have some photos somewhere)

Tombie your planning on stopping of my way on the way up right?

[BMKal]

And what a great bar it is..

Me and 'the boys' drank it dry by Kalgoorlie last time I went on it.

And I mean, all the spirits, all the beer, then the light beer, then the wine, then the port.... :D


As for spending that much time together....

My wife and I love each other very much...
But when we get 5-10 days off we cant stand it :eek:

Just so used to seeing each other in little bursts that longer runs are awkward....

We're going to the Gold Coast for Masters in November... Hopefully we wont kill each other :angel:

No wonder so many people from Kal tell me it's sometimes a dry argument on the train down to Perth. Should have known it was someone from Whyalla causing the problem. :tease::tease:

Ah well - we got our own back a little while ago. A group of us from Kal were out working at Iron Duke a little while ago, and we did our share of damage to the beer supply at the Westlands. :beer::twobeers::beer:

Anyway Ron - good to hear that you've got the holiday planned. I'm sure you and your wife will enjoy yourselves. The train trip is something that everyone should experience at least once. Hopefully, we might get to catch up when you are over here.

And I do hope that you will have a laptop with internet access with you on your trip. Wouldn't want to see the standards on here drop while you are away.

[ellard]

First of all enjoy the trip - and it will be a fantastic trip where you can drink in the bar and view the country side at the same time......

Toombie


My wife and I love each other very much...
But when we get 5-10 days off we cant stand it

I think its a shift working thing - my wife is the same.............but going to spend a month together over Christmas this will be scary indeed....

Wayne

[Narangga]

At least the train's got a bar so I can get a drink or three when she starts to drvie me to it! :D

Looks like it's started already! :eek::eek::eek:

[LandyAndy]

Great Ron
I would love to catch up with you whilst you are in the best bit of aussie,Im sure many other WA AULROians feel the same way.
See what we can do for you:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
ENJOY
Andrew

[RichardK]

Great Ron
I would love to catch up with you whilst you are in the best bit of aussie,Im sure many other WA AULROians feel the same way.
See what we can do for you:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
ENJOY
Andrew

I'll second that!!

[p38arover]

I'll second that!!

I'm not visiting RichardK! :o

Some years back Richard sent me some DVDs and I was supposed to reciprocate.

I even bought a DVD recorder (to copy the video tapes) but it subsequently failed (why are you not surprised?). I bought another one 'cos the service agent wouldn't honour the warranty as we couldn't find the receipt (we found the CC statement with the right date and amount, etc., but that wasn't acceptable).

The replacement doesn't work very well. I can't say it's failed but it doesn't work adequately - I can pretty much say that any recording I make won't work. I've given up and I stick to video tape - it's so much easier than recording to DVD. So Richard never got his DVDs and is unlikely to ever get them with my excellent equipment buying skills getting in the way.

I'm too embarrassed to show my face near him. :(

[p38arover]

Looks like it's started already! :eek::eek::eek:

I saw that tonight just before I saw your post! :mad:

[p38arover]

Great Ron
I would love to catch up with you whilst you are in the best bit of aussie, Im sure many other WA AULROians feel the same way.

What? You feel that you blokes are in the best bit of Aussie? :p

I think I made a mistake back in '72 moving back from Carnarvon to Sydney. I should have waited and moved to Perth when the job moved there.

Oh, you mean you want to meet us? :eek::eek:

I'd love to catch up with a few of you blokes, too. The last time I was over there, I did catch up and have dinner with BradTot.

We had a look at the map and will probably head north through Williams on our way back to Perth.

[p38arover]

And what a great bar it is..

Me and 'the boys' drank it dry by Kalgoorlie last time I went on it.

And I mean, all the spirits, all the beer, then the light beer, then the wine, then the port.... :D


As for spending that much time together....

My wife and I love each other very much...
But when we get 5-10 days off we cant stand it :eek:

Just so used to seeing each other in little bursts that longer runs are awkward....

We're going to the Gold Coast for Masters in November... Hopefully we wont kill each other :angel:

I hope you blokes don't board at Pt Augusta!

Let me know how you go at the GC! ;)

[CraigE]

Hey Ron,
You will enjoy your trip. If you do happen to get down Esperance way give us a yell and you can put a face to one of the AULRO Esperance dipsticks.;)
Plenty to do in Perth for 3 weeks, so you probablly wont get down our way as it is another 8hrs drive. But if you do.
A good drive is down Pemberton-Walpole way, beautiful country and only 4hrs from Perth. A great place to stay out of Pemberton is Donnely Lakes Donnelly Lakes Chalets, Pemberton, Western Australia (http://www.donnellylakes.com.au) no tv, no radio and beautiful though a bit exy. We love the place. Last year for my SIL 40th we booked all the cabins and had one great party. Spa hopping from one cabin to the next.
Cheers
Craig

[p38arover]

Anyway Ron - good to hear that you've got the holiday planned. I'm sure you and your wife will enjoy yourselves. The train trip is something that everyone should experience at least once. Hopefully, we might get to catch up when you are over here.

And I do hope that you will have a laptop with internet access with you on your trip. Wouldn't want to see the standards on here drop while you are away.

Elisabeth and I did the trip across the Nullabor in 1970 on the Trans-Australian train. I had been transferred from Ceduna to Carnarvon and we opted to go back to Pt Augusta and travel by train (the company was paying).

We were only 22 years old and we found the train was full of old farts in first class (where we were travelling). When we went on the Ghan last year we again found the train was full of old farts in first class.

Elisabeth says I'm not allowed to take my laptop. Flamin' heck, that means I'll never get any peace. (Maybe I'll take my PDA. ;) )

[RichardK]

I'm not visiting RichardK! :o

Some years back Richard sent me some DVDs and I was supposed to reciprocate.

I even bought a DVD recorder (to copy the video tapes) but it subsequently failed (why are you not surprised?). I bought another one 'cos the service agent wouldn't honour the warranty as we couldn't find the receipt (we found the CC statement with the right date and amount, etc., but that wasn't acceptable).

The replacement doesn't work very well. I can't say it's failed but it doesn't work adequately - I can pretty much say that any recording I make won't work. I've given up and I stick to video tape - it's so much easier than recording to DVD. So Richard never got his DVDs and is unlikely to ever get them with my excellent equipment buying skills getting in the way.

I'm too embarrassed to show my face near him. :(

Blow!! I was going to ambush you, will have to put away the baseball bat:bat:

Actually I had forgotten until you mentioned it............never fear I'm a very forgiving person............sometimes :p:p I'll have to remember to keep up my medication :angel::angel:

I must say I certainly would like to meet, all is forgiven

[Narangga]

I saw that tonight just before I saw your post! :mad:

Sorry ;) Only posted it because it mentioned alcohol in the same sentence as the spelling mistake! LOL :wasntme:

[p38arover]

Actually I had forgotten until you mentioned it............never fear I'm a very forgiving person............sometimes :p:p I'll have to remember to keep up my medication :angel::angel:

I hadn't forgotten. :(


I must say I certainly would like to meet, all is forgiven

Thanks, it would be good to meet youse blokes, too.

Our plans are now in disarray. The Forester is too high for the train ex-Sydney. Even if we borrowed our daughter's Forester (our old one) it is also 20mm too tall. We could drive to Adelaide and put it on there but if we did that we might as well take the Rangie.

We've looked at renting a car but the insurance excess is ridiculous and the daily rate to reduce the excess is about $25.

We may now go car-less to Perth, then fly back with Adelaide-Kangaroo Island being a future trip.

Does anyone need a car delivered cheaply (i.e., free) from Sydney to Perth in exchange for the use of it for 3 weeks? We could do a 4WD but we'd have to drive it to Adelaide.

[Narangga]

What a bummer :mad:

Obviously no one in the family can do a car swap for the time you're away?

[p38arover]

What a bummer :mad:

Obviously no one in the family can do a car swap for the time you're away?

My son's 1963 Hillman Super Minx? :D
Daughter's Forester - too tall.
My sisters? Dunno what they drive, I haven't seen them since March and half of them live interstate or overseas

[Narangga]

:(:(:(

Sorry I can't help out.

[one_iota]

Ron,


Relax and stop planning...:twisted::twisted::twisted:

You get to spend some long overdue time (and not much of it) with your partner of choice.

Spontaneity (and I'll let you check that) is the staff of life.

Just turn up and the rest will happen. :p

[p38arover]

Ron,


Relax and stop planning...:twisted::twisted::twisted:

I never plan holidays. I leave that for Elisabeth.

[one_iota]

I never plan holidays. I leave that for Elisabeth.

Well this could be an insult ;):

It is no wonder you haven't had more than three weeks.

Who's in charge here? :p

[p38arover]

Well this could be an insult ;):

It is no wonder you haven't had more than three weeks.

Who's in charge here? :p

Elisabeth. :(

You aren't married so you don't know these things! :D

[RichardK]

Hmmmmmmmmm...................perhaps you could fit Mini wheels for the train part of the trip??????????

Low profile tyres??????????????????????

No wheels???????????????????????

Seriously, three weeks, I wonder if there couldn't be a car made available somehow???

I must get the brain working.

[CraigE]

I hadn't forgotten. :(



Thanks, it would be good to meet youse blokes, too.

Our plans are now in disarray. The Forester is too high for the train ex-Sydney. Even if we borrowed our daughter's Forester (our old one) it is also 20mm too tall. We could drive to Adelaide and put it on there but if we did that we might as well take the Rangie.

We've looked at renting a car but the insurance excess is ridiculous and the daily rate to reduce the excess is about $25.

We may now go car-less to Perth, then fly back with Adelaide-Kangaroo Island being a future trip.

Does anyone need a car delivered cheaply (i.e., free) from Sydney to Perth in exchange for the use of it for 3 weeks? We could do a 4WD but we'd have to drive it to Adelaide.

Ron,
Are they for real and does the height change in Adelaide? When I looked at doing similar a few years back was told the limit was 2.3m high from Perth to Adelaide. Have seen many 4x4s on the carriages as they passed through Kalgoorlie behind the Indian Pacific. Maybe drive to Adelaide and then load. Geez if a forrester can not fit on, not many cars would.
Possiblly try and speak to someone in the vehicle logistics department because I think someone is giving you a red herring. The other option may be to look at a car transporter, but usually east west is expensive or maybe on a freight train earlier?
What is the forresters roof line height? Couldnt be more than about 1.7m surely.
Cheers
Craig

[p38arover]

The height limit Syd-Adl is 1570mm. Tunnels in NSW - none between Adelaide and Darwin or Adelaide and Perth.

I measured our current Forester at 1710mm to the top of the ugly factory fitted and standard (otherwise they'd have been turfed!) roof bars. I used a piece of wood across the car and measured to the concrete floor.

Our old Forester which our daughter now drives is 1590mm - I'm told by Subaru. I have to measure it when she comes around next.

Nevertheless, Great Southern Railways have said they have had Foresters receive roof damage as they bounce in transit so they are no longer permitted to travel.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Nevertheless, Great Southern Railways have said they have had Foresters receive roof damage as they bounce in transit


:eek2::eek2::eek2:




looks like a web cam on the roof would make an exciting vid:cool:

[CraigE]

Strtaight from the website. You would think they would have a flat bed for 4x4 vehicles.
Seems they dont really want business.
I hope you can sort something out Ron.

Note: Rates for unaccompanied vehicles available on request. As of 1 April 2008 unaccompanied Motorail cannot be booked from one train to the other. Unaccompanied Motorail can only be booked on the same train on an entire journey with no stopovers.Maximum width 2.2m. Maximum height Sydney - Adelaide 1.57m/ Adelaide - Perth 1.94m. Roof racks, wind deflectors, louvers etc must be removed before loading. The length of any towbar should be included. Caravans, including pop tops and boats are not able to be conveyed by Motorail. Vehicles must be roadworthy at time of loading and capable of being driven onto carrier. Motorail conditions of carriage (http://www.gsr.com.au/pdf/motorail-conditions-of-carriage.pdf)

[p38arover]

Well, we are heading your way in a couple of weeks. :)

Arrive Perth 7th March, then straight to Cervantes and The Pinnacles on 7-8th.

Arrive New Norcia on the 9th March.

Then down to Albany (via Williams to annoy LandyAndy if he's not hiding. :o )

Andy are the pub or the motel at Williams OK? We may need to book.

At Albany we'll be meeting up with Pax and Wharfy from the Two Wheels forum.

West to Margaret River :) and up to Perth. Depart Perth Sunday 29th March so the Friday 27th or Saturday 28th would be a great time to meet the Perth blokes.

Full itinerary not yet worked out.

[Narangga]

Yee Har!

Enjoy yourself mate.

[RichardK]

Don't forget a little time out for us in Perth:D:D

[p38arover]

My 2IC from when I was Manager, Norfolk Island Cable Station, has asked if I want a part time job working for him on a project in Perth around that time. :D

[LandyAndy]

Hi Ron
You would be lucky to get the pub or hotel during the week.Usually booked out by miners/roadwork crews.
If you want,we could put our tent up in the backyard,unfortunately the house is TINY.Tent is a good size and we have camp beds that are quite comfortable.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Ron,The Grinch reckons she can fit the camp stretchers in the lounge,she says its not worth putting the tent up for 1 night.
Cross that bridge when the time comes,unless you bring rain the tent would be better I think.
Andrew

[p38arover]

Andrew, thank you and your wife very much for the offer but we'll try either Williams or Narrogin. We really don't want to put you out.

Narrogin looks to have ample accommodation and it looks like it isn't too far from Williams if you don't mind having us drop around in the late arvo after you finish work or in the evening.

I haven't worked out a date yet. We are planning from both ends of the calendar.

We'll be going New Norcia -> York. I want to look at the Motor Museum so we'll stay the night there. From there, out to Wave Rock and maybe stay overnight there, thence to Narrogin/Williams.

We'd love any suggestions on things to stop and see.

The plan is to go from Narrogin/Williams to Albany, stay a few days there, then head west.

We want go to the Valley of the Giants again. We last went there in 1971 as you can see:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1600.jpg.

[willem]

The height limit Syd-Adl is 1570mm. Tunnels in NSW - none between Adelaide and Darwin or Adelaide and Perth.


Our old Forester which our daughter now drives is 1590mm - I'm told by Subaru. I have to measure it when she comes around next.

Nevertheless, Great Southern Railways have said they have had Foresters receive roof damage as they bounce in transit so they are no longer permitted to travel.

G'day Ron,

Let the tyres (half) down as you go on, then you'll fit nicely. :D:D

I do have family in Perth and there may well be a spare car available - I'd have to check. Let me know if you want me to follow this up.

Willem

[p38arover]

Thanks for the offer Willem but we'll be fine with the Forester. Elisabeth can drop me somewhere and drive off! :)

[LandyAndy]

Ron,you WOULDNT be putting us out in any way at all.
More than happy to have you stay the nite,NO LEAVING THE RONALD JINX!!!!.
At least you can have a few Reds or my famous HOME BREWS and not have to worry about the LAW.
Guessing you have heard of "THE TREE TOP WALK",if not do a google,you can look at the tops of the trees.
Andrew

[willem]

Andrew, thank you and your wife very much for the offer but we'll try either Williams or Narrogin. We really don't want to put you out.

Narrogin looks to have ample accommodation and it looks like it isn't too far from Williams if you don't mind having us drop around in the late arvo after you finish work or in the evening.

I haven't worked out a date yet. We are planning from both ends of the calendar.

We'll be going New Norcia -> York. I want to look at the Motor Museum so we'll stay the night there. From there, out to Wave Rock and maybe stay overnight there, thence to Narrogin/Williams.

We'd love any suggestions on things to stop and see.

The plan is to go from Narrogin/Williams to Albany, stay a few days there, then head west.

We want go to the Valley of the Giants again. We last went there in 1971 as you can see:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1600.jpg.


Trudi and I visited exactly the same tree in 1974 on our honeymoon and we have a photo of our red Toyota Celica in the same spot as your car. You can't take a car in there anymore, though last time we were there, quite a few years ago, you could still walk in to the tree.

The south west of WA is a magnificent place to visit. I grew up in the Harvey/ Bunbury area and often visited the Manjimup Pemberton area, and also down to Albany. Margaret River and Augusta.

Ron, its a beautiful area. Have a great time travelling with Elizabeth.

Willem

Willem

[p38arover]

Trudi and I visited exactly the same tree in 1974 on our honeymoon and we have a photo of our red Toyota Celica in the same spot as your car. You can't take a car in there anymore, though last time we were there, quite a few years ago, you could still walk in to the tree.


Just after we drove out, a large tour bus drove into the tree. I have a photo here.

I wonder how many cars/buses have parked in that tree.

[p38arover]

Thanks again Andrew but we aren't even sure we'll get to Williams.

We have yet to decide how to get from Wave Rock to Albany.

Are Ravensthorpe/Hopetoun worth visiting noting that we don't fish? :p

I think there is an AULRO member at Ravensthorpe who might be able to tell me.

[p38arover]

We are trying to work out how to best fill the 5 days between leaving Wave Rock and arriving in Albany. We're staying in Albany for 5 days and using it as a base.

[isuzurover]

We are trying to work out how to best fill the 5 days between leaving Wave Rock and arriving in Albany. We're staying in Albany for 5 days and using it as a base.

There is a 250km dirt road from Hyden (near wave rock) to Norseman. Lots of 4x4 tracks north and south of there. Plenty of salty lakes to see, etc. From Norseman you could head down to the NPs around Esperance, then back along the coast to Albany.

[p38arover]

Thanks Ben. I wonder if Elisabeth would let me drive her new Forester on 4x4 tracks?

After WA, we are going back to SA. Jeez, that ferry trip to Kangaroo Island is expensive - $325 return.

[willem]

There is a 250km dirt road from Hyden (near wave rock) to Norseman. Lots of 4x4 tracks north and south of there. Plenty of salty lakes to see, etc. From Norseman you could head down to the NPs around Esperance, then back along the coast to Albany.

That gravel road from Norseman to Hyden (Wave Rock) is worth the drive. Its a mining company road and is kept in pretty good shape. It certainly was when we were there about 18 months ago. Easy two wheel drive stuff. The Kombi had no worries. Lots of interesting stops. We really liked stopping at Disappointment Rock. Has parking area and a dunny. We climbed all over it in the morning sun. A great variety of smaller wildlife if you take the time to look. There was even a 6 foot brown snake, which was thankfully asleep!

Also the rabbit proof fence. The cleared land is to the west of the fence and the uncleared land to the east. My BIL who has just completed his PhD in Environmental Science (I'm an environmentalist! Don't call me a greenie!!) reckons that if you look at the space photographs of the cloud formations there are far more over the uncleared land than over the cleared land. He believes that overclearing of land has a far greater influence on climate change than greenhouse gases. It also causes salinity, the greatest environmental problem in Australia.

Willem

[LandyAndy]

Going Wave Rock to Albany instead of backtracking to Williams will save you quite a number of KM.
Ravensthorpe was nothing going for it tourist wise.
Best heading to the Porongarups from wave rock stating the nite and then heading to Albany.
Andrew

[p38arover]

Best heading to the Porongarups

Do you Sandgropers have any normal place names?

[Jamo]

Ravy's not really a tourist town.

Hopetoun has nice beaches. There's the Fitzgerald River National Park there (most biodiverse in the world I think) but unless you're a botanist it's not overly exciting.

Have a great trip.

[willem]

Do you Sandgropers have any normal place names?

But then on the drive to Sydney up the Hume we came across Clonbinane and Howlong in Victoria, and Lavington (sounds like a chocolate covered cake!) Queanbeyan and Wagga Wagga in NSW to name only a few. So whats normal in names? I reckon WA names are interesting.

BTW whenever you see a name ending ...up in a WA place name it refers to water. It comes from the local Aboriginal language. It is quite common - eg Wagerup, Burekup, Porongorup, Tambellup, Gnowangerup, etc.

Willem

[p38arover]

At least I can pronounce the NSW and Vic place names! :D

[willem]

At least I can pronounce the NSW and Vic place names! :D

Queanbeyan? Is that easier than Wagerup or Tambellup? :eek::confused: At least in WA you know where you're 'up' to! (Sorry!) :D:D But I like the variety.

Willem

[p38arover]

Queanbeyan? Is that easier than Wagerup or Tambellup? :eek::confused: A

Yep.

Oh, is that Wager-up or Wage -rup?

[willem]

Yep.

Oh, is that Wager-up or Wage -rup?

Depends whether you want to increase your bet or get paid! :D:D

Willem

[p38arover]

OK, we are in York and now heading off to Wave Rock this arvo then Esperance tomorrow. We are undecided as to whether we go via Ravensthorpe

[willem]

OK, we are in York and now heading off to Wave Rock this arvo then Esperance tomorrow. We are undecided as to whether we go via Ravensthorpe

G'day Ron,

It might be interesting to go along the Tin Horse Highway. From memory you go thru Wickepin and Kulin. Lots of interesting sculptures made from farm gear done by farmers along the highway.

I don't remember the exact route. Just ask a local and look out for the signs.

Willem

[mike 90 RR]

Corrigin ... Fuel up ... Don't eat the food
Lake Grace ... Don't eat the food
Ravensthorpe ... Don't eat the food




Drive to Lake King
Fuel up at the local Co-op store // Food is safe to eat




Go the Cascades road .... better than the bitumen



Don't blame me if you get lost
Remember that all servos are closed at 8pm .... Lake King closed Sunday and 5pm's .... And Don't eat the food

[p38arover]

We didn't eat along the way but we are currently eating the food at Taylor St Jetty Restaurant in Esperance.

re fuel, we fuelled up at Hyden Liberty and the fuel consumption from there to Lake King was atrocious. I stopped to see if I had a punctured fuel tank or fractured fuel line - I could see the fuel gauge dropping as I drove along. It must have been crap fuel. I wouldn't buy there again.

If anyone wants to meet up later my mobile is 0408 483 269

Ron

[CraigE]

Food is good at the cafe in Lake Grace.
Taylor St Tea Rooms is fairly good.
Hope you enjoy Esperance. If you have time dart out to Lucky Bay to see a nice beach.
Where are you staying?
Unfortuanately I am now back on site until the 18th March. Shame you were not in town 48hrs earlier.
Cheers
Craig

[p38arover]

Hi Craig, i noticed a couple of mines on the way in.

Sorry we couldn't meet. We are here for 4 days but that's not long enough.

Gawd, this place is full of 4WDs towing caravans and campers and there's a lot of RVs as well.

[CraigE]

Hi Craig, i noticed a couple of mines on the way in.

Sorry we couldn't meet. We are here for 4 days but that's not long enough.

Gawd, this place is full of 4WDs towing caravans and campers and there's a lot of RVs as well.
Yeah its a popular spot for the grey nomads and cashed up yuppies. We live in Castletown at the moment, one street back from the Quays and not far from the caravan park, so see lots of expensive buses and rigs.
Have a great time while you are in town.
The tourist loop is a nice drive. Dunns Rock / Beach is a nice spot (well kept secret) as is Lucky Bay and The Duke Of Orleans Bay. All of these are more than accessible in your Forester.
Cheers
Craig

[mike 90 RR]

we are currently eating the food at Taylor St Jetty Restaurant in Esperance.

You are 2 blocks away from my Mum ... She lives in Taylor st :p



You need to steal a 4WD and "drive along the beach to Cape Le Grand" ... starting off at Bandy Creek Harbour .... Can't believe you took a Forrester :huh: ... All those sand dunes & Beaches B)

[CraigE]

The beach is currently like a highway from Wylie Bay to Cape Le Grand, so the Forrester would do it easy, though I would maybe want another car with me.
Was chopped up quite bad 8 months ago, but is pretty flat and hard most of the way with a couple of minor soft spots.
Shame probablly soon to be my former home.:mad::mad:

[Jamo]

Suby will go further than you think Mike!:cool:

I've had mine to Butty's and all the way to the Baxter Cliffs.

Mind you she chewed through the fuel at an astonomical rate!

[mike 90 RR]

Suby will go further than you think Mike!:cool:

I've had mine to Butty's and all the way to the Baxter Cliffs.

Mind you she chewed through the fuel at an astonomical rate!


Subies .... They go brilliant .... bro had 1 ...

Just figured Ron has skinny low profile tyres

I drove a Toyota Corolla AWD .... Lancelin to Wedge .... Skinny tyres ... only had to have a tow in 2 sloppy spots

[Jamo]

I reckon the only thing against the suby on the beach is the relatively low rolling diameter of the tyres.

The plus is the light weight.

Embarrasing thing was I went to Butty's with my neighbour (petrol Jackaroo). The suby went out and back, got stuck ones and a push and a few revs and she was unstuck.:D

12 months later went out to exactly the same place with same neighbour in my then new D3. Compressor failed!:(

[p38arover]

No idea what the Sooby is wearing. It's Elisabeth's car.

It was good to meet up with Jamo and Joan last night. Unfortunately, Elisabeth was confined to barracks after getting the trots. Today is my turn to be crook.

[mike 90 RR]

Didn't I say .... Don't eat the food :p :p

Hope you get some sand action & sights before you leave

[p38arover]

We walked along the beach at Cape le Grand. Boy, it was firm sand but Elisabeth wouldn't let me driver her Soopby on the sand.

We are now in Albany for 5 days but I don't know if any AULRO members are around here. We've had dinner with some Two Wheels forum members but missed Mr. Smith (TW columnist) by half a day.

[p38arover]

Didn't I say .... Don't eat the food :p :p

You did! You did!

But no one warned me ut the bloody WA drivers! :eek:

Don't they get taught how to use blinkers or even to wait before pulling out in front of a car barrelling along at the speed limit?

[ATH]

Welcome to the hell that is driving with the worst most ignorant and aggressive drivers there are in Oz Ron.
They'll sit and watch while you approach and because their thought processes are so slow, by the time they actually act on their decision to pull out it's too late and you're on them!:mad:
Indicators are only there to inform themselves that they've changed lanes or turned a corner but are mostly considered un-necessary.
I mean, what business is it of anyone else if you want to go round a corner or change lanes?
But don't advise them that you've recognised they are stupid by blowing the horn or flashing lights, that's a sure way to enrage them and they'll start swerving around whilst waving their fists at you!:o
Happy motoring.
Alan.

[mike 90 RR]

Ron .... Drive Pro Active / Aggressive ... Like when you ride your bike
Trust no one, cause they are all busy talking on the phone

[p38arover]

So true!

I'm driving like I did in Saudi Arabia!

[p38arover]

WA drivers in the country don't seem to reverse park. They seem to drive into a parking spot and bounce over the gutter then down into the parking spot.

I haven't seen anyone reverse yet but many bounce over the gutters.

Close and parallel? What does that mean?

Stop signs? Pfft, drive straight through across the path of cars on your right.

Let people out of a parking spot? You've gotta be kidding! One might be delayed a few seconds.

[Brick]

Ron,

It is even worse when you get city drivers out in the country. Its that bad you sometimes consider handing your license in.

[ATH]

How nice to see all my observations on Perth drivers have been seen to be true by a visitor from the East.
You're spot on about reversing Ron, the Cook and I are the only ones in our street who reverse into our driveway, the others just tear out without looking for kids, cars or path users.:mad:
Same at work and I've been asked why I reverse into a spot, and my answer is always "Because I can" which leaves them a bit bemused until they work it out.:)
Many years ago and I think it was NSW country town, they had reverse angle parking which I thought was the way to go for the incompetent, as it wouldn't be too hard for them, but I suppose over here it would cause chaos as they tried to go in frontwards!
Happy motoring, just watch out for WA drivers.:o
Alan.