D1 models

[nice1guv]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the D1 came out in an ES model that was a diesel, or were all the ES models V8? Also does the SE7 model come in a diesel?

[81stubee]

According to Redbook:

1995 on Land Rover Discovery ES (Apr)

Only came in Tdi Auto

I wouldn't imagine there would be too many around. Are you planning a project?

Hope this helps,

Stu

[Zakros]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the D1 came out in an ES model that was a diesel, or were all the ES models V8? Also does the SE7 model come in a diesel?

Yes the SE7 does come out in Diesel. I have an 1996 TDI SE7 Manual

Cheers
Zakros

[nice1guv]

According to Redbook:
1995 on Land Rover Discovery ES (Apr)
Only came in Tdi Auto
I wouldn't imagine there would be too many around. Are you planning a project?

No project Stu, just trying to convince the Mrs to get a Disco. I have a 96 V8 but would want to get a diesel if we got another one.


Yes the SE7 does come out in Diesel. I have an 1996 TDI SE7 Manual

Does your SE7 have cruise and a sunroof?

[Utemad]

I'm sure I looked at a 96 ES V8 auto Disco when I bought mine. It had all the woodgrain, leather everything, twin sunroofs etc. Also had rear air locker, sliders and the rustiest alpine window surrounds ever but don't think they were factory :)

I don't think any Aussie diesel Disco1s had factory cruise control. Just my observation.
Although there was a post on how to retrofit it on here not so long ago. Pretty sure it was for a 300Tdi Disco1.

[zelko]

Didn't they change them from ES to SE at some stage cause I have a 98 Disco SE TDI Manual.

Zelko

[Utemad]

Didn't they change them from ES to SE at some stage cause I have a 98 Disco SE TDI Manual.

Zelko

I think it goes from bottom to top of the range

S
SE
SE7
ES

So your SE does not compare to an ES.
I have the S equivalent with with cruise control but in 1994 they didn't use those designations. Mine doesn't have any model badges other than V8i.

[zelko]

I think it goes from bottom to top of the range

S
SE
SE7
ES

So your SE does not compare to an ES.
I have the S equivalent with with cruise control but in 1994 they didn't use those designations. Mine doesn't have any model badges other than V8i.

Thanks utemad

I was looking the models up on the internet and your right, I'll add another one that I saw, there is a LS Model as well.

Thanks again
Zelko

[Utemad]

Just had a look myself and the LS is either a step up from the ES or the ES was renamed the LS in the later Disco1. I'm not sure.

Also lets not forget the Rossignol. I don't know what that was other than a 3 door V8 only model.

[waynep]

My 1997 TDi Manual is according to the Owners handbook an "SE Plus" :confused:.
It's an SE base spec but has leather, woodgrain trim, and a single sunroof. I have never seen another one like it.

[B92 8NW]

Just had a look myself and the LS is either a step up from the ES or the ES was renamed the LS in the later Disco1. I'm not sure.

Also lets not forget the Rossignol. I don't know what that was other than a 3 door V8 only model.

I think the LS is between SE and ES because they seem to have everything but sunroofs.

[Scouse]

the ES was renamed the LS in the later Disco1. Correct.
They had a few minor differences but basically a renamed ES.

[zelko]

Correct.
They had a few minor differences but basically a renamed ES.

Hey mate

Did you know they actually had one called Crossover, Between 1993-1995 they had an agreement with Honda to sell them as a Honda Crossover in Japan, they were a 3 or 5 door V8 Auto, they sold them until BMW took over in 1994.

Zelko

[Utemad]

Yep it's weird seeing them with Honda badges. I saw one in NZ once.
That's one Japper 4wd I would buy :D

[seqfisho]

There was no factory cruise on the 300tdi's in Australia

In 98 they still made the SE7's but had no badging on the tailgate as previous years, mine is a designated SE7 but carries no badging (7/98 build) but has the rear jump seats twin airbags and ABS etc

[nice1guv]

There was no factory cruise on the 300tdi's in Australia

In 98 they still made the SE7's but had no badging on the tailgate as previous years, mine is a designated SE7 but carries no badging (7/98 build) but has the rear jump seats twin airbags and ABS etc

So you have no cruise control?

Can anyone else confirm that Aussie 300tdi's didn't have cruise?
Does anyone with a 300tdi have cruise?

[sniegy]

So you have no cruise control?

Can anyone else confirm that Aussie 300tdi's didn't have cruise?
Does anyone with a 300tdi have cruise?

Confirmed, No "Diesel" Disco 1 entered Australia with factory Cruise Control.
The first Diesel Disco to have cruise was the Disco2 released in 99.

Another few notes: the LS discovery was a late release from the UK to Australia to rid the remaing stock of V8 mid spec models for the release of the D2.
They were badged LS for Limited Spec. You will notice as the ES had Electric seats also the LS did not. The wood spec was bolted on in Australian processing centres as was the LS decal. The only thing that came from the factory was the stereo with dash controls...
All 98my vehicles should of been badged at the rear S, SE, SE7 or LS.
97my & prior there were many changes & limited spec models.
Most came under the main 5 level specs, most were aimed at the SE, SE7 spec to move vehicles as bonuses were added to shift them along.
S, SE, SE7, RS, ES.
SE/SE7 AA pack, SE/SE7 AR pack, SE Plus as been mentioned, it just depended on what spec the customer wanted.
These packs were mainly 96/97my's only.
The Rossingnol was only the early D1 up to 93my (early dash).

These levels still exist today as the UK has many different trim levels, from memory up to about 12 now, were as Australia only receives 3:mad:
D2a & D3 - S SE & HSE, are basically the spec we get, in the UK u can order a base vehicle & option leather trim with seat heaters, something we cant do here...

Hope this helps in some way guys.:D

[Scouse]

Hey mate

Did you know they actually had one called Crossover, Between 1993-1995 they had an agreement with Honda to sell them as a Honda Crossover in Japan, they were a 3 or 5 door V8 Auto, they sold them until BMW took over in 1994.

ZelkoI know of the Honda badged Disco but Crossover doesn't ring a bell.
I thought it was Crossroad or Crossroads.

[Scouse]

S, SE, SE7, RS, ES.
I thought all Discoveries were RS :wasntme:.

[zelko]

I know of the Honda badged Disco but Crossover doesn't ring a bell.
I thought it was Crossroad or Crossroads.

WHOOPS you are correct it is or was called Crossroad, I miss read it .

Thanks
Zelk

[tdiBrad]

Confirmed, No "Diesel" Disco 1 entered Australia with factory Cruise Control.
The first Diesel Disco to have cruise was the Disco2 released in 99.

Another few notes: the LS discovery was a late release from the UK to Australia to rid the remaing stock of V8 mid spec models for the release of the D2.
They were badged LS for Limited Spec. You will notice as the ES had Electric seats also the LS did not. The wood spec was bolted on in Australian processing centres as was the LS decal. The only thing that came from the factory was the stereo with dash controls...
All 98my vehicles should of been badged at the rear S, SE, SE7 or LS.
97my & prior there were many changes & limited spec models.
Most came under the main 5 level specs, most were aimed at the SE, SE7 spec to move vehicles as bonuses were added to shift them along.
S, SE, SE7, RS, ES.
SE/SE7 AA pack, SE/SE7 AR pack, SE Plus as been mentioned, it just depended on what spec the customer wanted.
These packs were mainly 96/97my's only.
The Rossingnol was only the early D1 up to 93my (early dash).

These levels still exist today as the UK has many different trim levels, from memory up to about 12 now, were as Australia only receives 3:mad:
D2a & D3 - S SE & HSE, are basically the spec we get, in the UK u can order a base vehicle & option leather trim with seat heaters, something we cant do here...

Hope this helps in some way guys.:D

And just to add some more discussion.
MyTdi is a 98my, there is no decal on the rear, be it S, SE, SE, SE7 etc..
BTW, I bought it new, so I know the decal has not been removed and I know it's an SE.

:p

[nice1guv]

Confirmed, No "Diesel" Disco 1 entered Australia with factory Cruise Control.
The first Diesel Disco to have cruise was the Disco2 released in 99.


Oh no, no cruise on a D1 diesel - that's a bummer! I love cruise control. :D

Does anyone know what happened when you bought a D1 new from a dealer and wanted options added to it? Did the dealer call the UK and order a car with the specs you wanted if they didn't have one on the lot?

My 96 D1 has no markings on the rear and quite a spec list.

[nice1guv]

What happened if you bought a D1 diesel new and said to the dealer: I want cruise control. Surely they didn't say, no sorry can't do that. Would you have got an after market cruise fitted by the dealer or a factory one sent over from the UK and fitted?

[Scouse]

There's a few aftermarket options around. We used to have aftermarket cruise controls fitted to new cars. I couldn't say for sure if a Tdi was done though but it would be easy enough.

You might find that cruise control won't work too well with the Tdi as you often need a fair bit of pedal to get them going up hills. Cruise control will not usually go to full throttle.

[sschmez]

There's a few aftermarket options around. We used to have aftermarket cruise controls fitted to new cars. I couldn't say for sure if a Tdi was done though but it would be easy enough.

You might find that cruise control won't work too well with the Tdi as you often need a fair bit of pedal to get them going up hills. Cruise control will not usually go to full throttle.

Quite right, on both....

My Tdi has "autron" aftermarket CC fitted and I have to help get it up the hill.:)

[81stubee]

Aftermarket Cruise,

We had a Rostra Electronic Cruise control system on ours. Had the dealer put a V8 steering wheel with buttons put on, and put the factory switch in. Looked completely factory.

Being a manual, ours was OK on the Hume and long flat roads, but really struggled on the hills. You could change the response time on ours so it wouldn't hit the floor quickly.

Stu

[nice1guv]

I have only driven D1 V8's, is there a huge difference in power and take off between the V8 and diesel?

If you have a manual diesel is it still sluggish or can you keep up with the traffic easily?

[sniegy]

And just to add some more discussion.
MyTdi is a 98my, there is no decal on the rear, be it S, SE, SE, SE7 etc..
BTW, I bought it new, so I know the decal has not been removed and I know it's an SE.

:p

Brad, Then u should have received a decal on the rear, it was part of the build spec, I know as i ran the processing centre in Vic for 5yrs. Are your decals silver or grey??


What happened if you bought a D1 diesel new and said to the dealer: I want cruise control. Surely they didn't say, no sorry can't do that. Would you have got an after market cruise fitted by the dealer or a factory one sent over from the UK and fitted?

UK cruise is an option we didnt have (at all), the Diesel in the UK drives by a wire & an ECU similar to the TD5 for the 300Tdi.
Aftermarket cruise are the way to go. My Father in law has one on his manual TDi & it is great, it does keep the speed except for steep hills it can lose its way. But has had no problems.


I thought all Discoveries were RS :wasntme:.

Easy...I have had a few...;)

Cheers

[Rad97]

I have a Tdi 1996 with rear jump seats twin airbags and ABS, leather front seats I have no badging on the tailgate either so which model is mine?

I do not have sunroofs.

thanks Ralph.

[Scouse]

Brad, Then u should have received a decal on the rear, it was part of the build spec, I know as i ran the processing centre in Vic for 5yrs. Are your decals silver or grey??I didn't think those local SE7 type decals carried over to the 'WA' Discos.

[sschmez]

I have a glossy brochure for the discovery ... (part No. LR 909 (4))

It doesn't have an actual date on it, but the intro page says


In the four years since the Discovery was launched, ...


It is 12 pages (24 sides), so I don't think I'll scan and post the whole thing but here are the two "Specifications and Options" pages for your info

(Sorry about the low res. had to reduce to fit the file size limits of this forum, It's still very readable)