Is it me ORRRR

[Reads90]

Ok as i drive around alot for my job i see alot of 4wd nissans, toyotas, in fact all makes of off roaders , seem to have somthing in common . People with cargo barriers put those Emergency Hammer Things (as seen below ) zip tired to the rear cargo barrier

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/738.jpg

Now correct me if i am wrong but are they not desgigned for you to use to help you get out of a car by smashing a window, or cutting your seat belt As said on a web site selling them

"The Emergency Hammer helps you to escape quickly after a car accident. After a bad car accident, a few seconds with this vehicle emergency hammer can mean the difference between life and death for you and your loved ones.

The pointed steel heads can easily shatter windows. It's surgically sharp blade (recessed for safety), effortlessly cuts through a tangled seat belt.
LifeHammer can be easily stored in your glove compartment or mounted almost anywhere in your vehicle. "







SO why the Bl**dy hell do people put them on the boot side of the rear cargo barrier , where you can't get to it from inside of the car, i have trained my dogs well but hey not that well . :)


So is it just me that thinks that people that do this are morons or not :)

[sschmez]

What ???

you've never accidentally locked yourself in the boot :eek::eek::eek:

Kid you not, thats what they're there for

(I haven't got one or ever needed one either)

Stevo

[Psimpson7]

Ali,

I think it is incase people lock themselves in the boot. With a barrier, its like a mini hot prison!!

Cheers
Pete

[x-box]

:D I think you are right there mate, i've also seen lots of stuff that does'nt make sense - but i've put it down to the fact that i drive a 'fender and it does'nt matter anyway.
In this particular instance it won't help them much in that position in case of an accident - but then they do drive "different" brand 4X4's and in so doing think differently. Personally i think that would go well smack bang in the middle of the roof where everybody can get to it easily - problem is if you have small kids, or your mate's kids....... those hammers can ruin a friendship quick smart

[x-box]

Ali,

I think it is incase people lock themselves in the boot. With a barrier, its like a mini hot prison!!

Cheers
Pete

more reason to drive a fender with sliding windows :cool:

[cartm58]

well those hammers were designed by the West German Federal Police on the autobhans for cutting seat belts and smashing windows to get people out of wrecks. I bought mine from McEwens in Bourke St Melbourne in the 1980's and have transferred it to each new car l drive they have long needle pins to stick into your transmission tunnel carpet by the front seats so l dont see why people are tying them to cargo barriers.

Also have useful tool for cleaning out window washer jets with long thin needle

[GregTD5]

Those tools come with the cargo barrier.
As suggested, they are to get out of the rear in case of emergency.
Don't forget many 4wd's will have a set of seats behind the cargo barrier.

Greg

[gromit]

As already stated by GregTD5 they are fitted to the cargo barrier when it's installed.
Probably an ADR requirement for when some moron has an accident with someone illegally behind the cargo barrier ?
If the cargo barrier manufacturer didn't fit it someone would probably sue them when this happened........

Colin

[dobbo]

Mini Hot Prison's

We used to pay good money to go and watch dancers in Mini Hot Prison's.;)


Fact : Most 4wd's are daily driven by Soccer mums,

Fact: some are MILF's.

Fact: The cost of fuel is still rising, some families are struggling.

What can the Australian public do to make a perfect equalibrium?????????????????????

Boring fact: I think it's an ADR

[crump]

Mini Hot Prison's

We used to pay good money to go and watch dancers in Mini Hot Prison's.;)


Fact : Most 4wd's are daily driven by Soccer mums,

Fact: some are MILF's.

Fact: The cost of fuel is still rising, some families are struggling.

What can the Australian public do to make a perfect equalibrium?????????????????????

Boring fact: I think it's an ADR


:D:D:D aint that the truth.

[Sleepy]

" many 4wd's will have a set of seats behind the cargo barrier."


:eek2: That's dangerous - and illegal?


Also, the hammer/cutter thingy could be used by rescuers if front occupants are incapacitated - eg: roll down hill.

[CraigE]

It is an ADR. Has been in place for a few years now. A bit overkill and was originally intended for vehicles with plus 5 passengers. Most buses should also have them. Dont know why because if you put in a cargo barrier you are not supposed to carry rear passengers anyway. But I suppose people do.
They do work really well, As part of my job I carry a Solengen Eickhorn rescue knife, that has a blade, seat belt cutter and window breaker. If you need to use one break a window furtherest away from trapped person. Get them to cover or avert their eyes. Pick a corne of the window, place hand just below this point to steady (safety glasses and gloves if you have them) and hit hard with a flicking motion. If tinted glass you may need to pul out the glass or push it in when broken. Works a treat and when training vehicle extrication people love doing it for some reason.:twisted:

[DirtyDawg]

Ok as i drive around alot for my job i see alot of 4wd nissans, toyotas, in fact all makes of off roaders , seem to have somthing in common . People with cargo barriers put those Emergency Hammer Things (as seen below ) zip tired to the rear cargo barrier

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/738.jpg

Now correct me if i am wrong but are they not desgigned for you to use to help you get out of a car by smashing a window, or cutting your seat belt As said on a web site selling them

"The Emergency Hammer helps you to escape quickly after a car accident. After a bad car accident, a few seconds with this vehicle emergency hammer can mean the difference between life and death for you and your loved ones.

The pointed steel heads can easily shatter windows. It's surgically sharp blade (recessed for safety), effortlessly cuts through a tangled seat belt.
LifeHammer can be easily stored in your glove compartment or mounted almost anywhere in your vehicle. "








SO why the Bl**dy hell do people put them on the boot side of the rear cargo barrier , where you can't get to it from inside of the car, i have trained my dogs well but hey not that well . :)




So is it just me that thinks that people that do this are morons or not :)


"Common sense is not that common"

Maybe a colourful item to add to the **** factor.....
maybe the glove box ...zip tied to you sunvisor now CD's are a thing of the past.....definately not behind you or inaccessable..

[DiscoStew]

I asked Opposite Lock this question when I had mine installed and they told me that a couple of kids had died when they locked themselves in the boot of a 4WD (I guess it did not have a door handle on the inside). Since then the hammer is standard.

I don't have kids and I have a door handle so have removed mine. Hopefully it is not an ADR. I have had a look through the ADRs and could not find ANYTHING related to cargo barriers. http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx