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stevo68
16th September 2008, 11:19 AM
Hey All,

Just to let you know that if you have pets, the F'in ticks are out. Woke this morning to our bengal cat Duke all over the place....2 mother ticks on it. You can guess I really bloody hate them. Same time last year, RIP Diesel, got one....he survived that.....Xmas time he didnt....despite preventative measures. So folks check your animals, make sure you have them on something.

I'm no fan of the family bengal, he drives me up the wall, but to see him in agony this morning was awful....scratched the crap out of my arm as well. He is more the kids pet and they love him so I hope he pulls through. Cats are meant to be more resilient than dogs, but with the way he was...not so sure.

So fingers crossed for Dukey, he is family:

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Regards

Stevo

Outlaw
16th September 2008, 11:42 AM
Crap stevo time to find yourself a suburban block me thinks :(

Jamo
16th September 2008, 12:12 PM
They're not so good for humans either. I've got a few million passengers in me courtesy of ticks and every now and then they make their presence known.

Tombie
16th September 2008, 12:17 PM
They're not so good for humans either. I've got a few million passengers in me courtesy of ticks and every now and then they make their presence known.

Excuse my ignorance... Please explain....

Jamo
16th September 2008, 12:34 PM
Some ticks carry microorganisms and viruses like scrub typhus. In my case, they gave me rickettsia parasites, which are microorganisms.

I'm not sure what their overall game is. Nowadays they generally lay low, but occasionally act up giving me night sweats, fatigue, headaches, soreness etc.

11 years ago when I first got 'infected' I could only work four days a week and was in bed by 4pm, amongst other things. I was 'lucky' at the time because I was very fit and my body coped a lot better than some. These days the effects are generally not as severe and are few and the time between occurrences is much longer.

There isn't enough research to find a proper treatment. I could go on doxycycline for six months, and that may clear it up, but there are some bad sideffects with that such as increased risk of sun damage (and being a redhead with fair skin, I have enough trouble with that as it is).

It doesn't really hinder me too much now. There's much worse things that can happen.

crump
16th September 2008, 12:38 PM
Interesting, do you know the origin of where you picked it up, as in do you have Australian or QLD Tick Typhus??

Jamo
16th September 2008, 01:29 PM
I was tested for Typhus and several other things at the time, but all came up negative. It wasn't until about 3 years ago that the symptoms were all matched to the rickettsia.

I had probably over 300 tick bites over time before I was infected. Mostly kangaroo ticks. I did get one rather large cattle tick on the top of my head at the border ranges in 1991. That's when the 'Thermostat dysfunction' started (night sweats and sometimes day ones).

The main stuff didn't happen until 1997 whe I got one just south of perth. I was bedridden for two weeks. Something that had never happened before. Usually I just got the sore itchy bite mark and that was that. So that was probably the one that did it.

cripesamighty
16th September 2008, 02:28 PM
Hi Jamo,

On the last Rogaine I was set up as the first aider with my other half and we met a rather nice bloke from Murdoch Uni doing his PhD on ticks and tick-borne diseases. He was looking for people who have had severe reactions to ticks.

We go caving quite a bit north of Perth and pick up lots of ticks but one of our guys was quite badly knocked about last year from tick bites. He gave a blood sample to this bloke and it helped pinpoint what he had. I reckon if you contacted the Murdoch guy he would be really interested in hearing about your experiences and might help you as well. PM me and I will send you his details.

scarry
16th September 2008, 03:02 PM
We have always had ticks around,so we are always careful.I was at the vet the other day ,and there was a chart on the wall about the life cycle of the tick.The common tick,that causes the problems with pets must have the bandicoot to survive,it hosts to it as part of its life cycle.
So if you have got bandicoots around,good chance you have ticks around.We have less ticks around now than we did 25 yrs ago,and this is probably bacause of the destroying of the bush for developement has also got rid of many of the bandicoots .

stevo68
16th September 2008, 03:54 PM
We have always had ticks around,so we are always careful.I was at the vet the other day ,and there was a chart on the wall about the life cycle of the tick.The common tick,that causes the problems with pets must have the bandicoot to survive,it hosts to it as part of its life cycle.
So if you have got bandicoots around,good chance you have ticks around.We have less ticks around now than we did 25 yrs ago,and this is probably bacause of the destroying of the bush for developement has also got rid of many of the bandicoots .Well god forbid if I come across a bandicoot then. Still waiting for an outcome, Duke has been treated and sedated, kids are upset as it was only 8mths ago we lost Diesel to a combo of tick and snake bite. One of the hazards of living on acreage. Have checked Max ( my 8mth old shepherd) 4 times today. Problem with Duke is being a cat he goes walk about, at least with the dogs they are contained in a 1/4 acre fully fenced, short grass and any bush/ weeds etc are sprayed from the back acre.

Regards

Stevo

FenianEel
16th September 2008, 04:21 PM
Good Luck Stevo,

Growing up on a farm with heaps of bushland, I know how bad they can be.
So does my brother, who got one on his sack once :eek::D

You've had a bad trot with pets lately mate, give 'em all away and buy the wee ones some pet rocks, or a fishbowl:D

Hope Tigger feels better soon mate.;)

stevo68
16th September 2008, 04:39 PM
Good Luck Stevo,

Growing up on a farm with heaps of bushland, I know how bad they can be.
So does my brother, who got one on his sack once :eek::D

You've had a bad trot with pets lately mate, give 'em all away and buy the wee ones some pet rocks, or a fishbowl:D

Hope Tigger feels better soon mate.;) Thanks mate, just spoke with vet...he is still hanging in there...still sedated as cats can get quite panicky....will know more in the morning,

Regards

Stevo

Pedro_The_Swift
16th September 2008, 05:03 PM
short grass is the secret with bandicoots,,

abaddonxi
16th September 2008, 05:11 PM
short grass is the secret with bandicoots,,

Must make a mess of the mower blades.

crump
16th September 2008, 05:33 PM
Well god forbid if I come across a bandicoot then. Still waiting for an outcome, Duke has been treated and sedated, kids are upset as it was only 8mths ago we lost Diesel to a combo of tick and snake bite. One of the hazards of living on acreage. Have checked Max ( my 8mth old shepherd) 4 times today. Problem with Duke is being a cat he goes walk about, at least with the dogs they are contained in a 1/4 acre fully fenced, short grass and any bush/ weeds etc are sprayed from the back acre.

Regards

Stevo

do you use any of the flea treatments such as "Advantage". "Frontline" etc??Some are supposed to repel ticks, not suggesting they are the answer, as checking your pets daily if you live in Paralysis Tick habitat is the only solution, but they may give you a bit more breathing space in Spring and Summer.

stevo68
16th September 2008, 05:50 PM
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Well god forbid if I come across a bandicoot then. Still waiting for an outcome, Duke has been treated and sedated, kids are upset as it was only 8mths ago we lost Diesel to a combo of tick and snake bite. One of the hazards of living on acreage. Have checked Max ( my 8mth old shepherd) 4 times today. Problem with Duke is being a cat he goes walk about, at least with the dogs they are contained in a 1/4 acre fully fenced, short grass and any bush/ weeds etc are sprayed from the back acre.

Regards

Stevo

do you use any of the flea treatments such as "Advantage". "Frontline" etc??Some are supposed to repel ticks, not suggesting they are the answer, as checking your pets daily if you live in Paralysis Tick habitat is the only solution, but they may give you a bit more breathing space in Spring and Summer. Yep we use treatment on the dogs and cats, though I dont think the spray is as effective for cats as the treatments for dogs are. Dogs have tick collars plus advantage, cat gets frontline spray. As it is now tick season, I check the dogs at least twice a day. I learnt from previous experience with ticks :(,

Regards

Stevo

loanrangie
16th September 2008, 08:54 PM
Some ticks carry microorganisms and viruses like scrub typhus. In my case, they gave me rickettsia parasites, which are microorganisms.

I'm not sure what their overall game is. Nowadays they generally lay low, but occasionally act up giving me night sweats, fatigue, headaches, soreness etc.

11 years ago when I first got 'infected' I could only work four days a week and was in bed by 4pm, amongst other things. I was 'lucky' at the time because I was very fit and my body coped a lot better than some. These days the effects are generally not as severe and are few and the time between occurrences is much longer.

There isn't enough research to find a proper treatment. I could go on doxycycline for six months, and that may clear it up, but there are some bad sideffects with that such as increased risk of sun damage (and being a redhead with fair skin, I have enough trouble with that as it is).

It doesn't really hinder me too much now. There's much worse things that can happen.

No good mate, sounds a bit like me and malaria, picked it up in Malawi along with an unidentified parasite (says the Adelaide infectious diseases specialist i saw) same problem with when i get run down and the fatigue sets in and knocks me around for a few weeks.

UncleHo
16th September 2008, 10:40 PM
G'day Folks :)

Yup! we live in a bandicoot/paralysis tick area, and have for 26 years, we use "Proban" on both our dogs and the "Cooking Fat" aka cat, it is a tablet given by weight, 1 per 10kg, cat has been on them for 9 yrs,(cats 1/4 per 5kg, he gets 1) and the dogs have been getting them from pups, not cheap, but is a lot cheaper than anti-serum, our old dog which we put down last week (14 yrs 2 wks, pneumonia),was on 2 1/2 Proban every 2 days, and he had Cardio-Myophathy (enlarged heart as result of tick, pre Proban) and it did not harm him, the cat gets 1 ea 2 days as well, just open mouth and drop pill in;)

The cat regularly hunts in the bush and so far this month has returned with 2 ticks(self propelled tick factory), they bite, get "Probanned", die and drop off,:) with pedigree dogs we can't afford to lose our animals,as a lot of work goes into geting our obedience titles:) Proban is about $60 per 100tab bottle,but well worth it :D


cheers

JohnE
16th September 2008, 10:43 PM
yep they are out and about around here too,
have pulled out about a dozen from our cats ears to date. most were the early nymph stage,full of blood.
i stopped putting frontline spray on the cat few years ago, the price of the stuff is ridiculous. daily vigilance is the key.

the dogs are another story they have had a couple on them, but as i use preventic collars the ticks are usually only walking over the fur when i have found them.( the amitraz in the collars paralyses the probosis apparently)
have been using those collars for years, and if you feel really scared give the dogs a spray with something like nucidol as a secondary protection.


john

Davy
16th September 2008, 11:19 PM
My old best mate Tiger, 13 yo bull mastif / boxer cross had a massive
tick infection a couple of years ago ( up to 15 of the little blighters in each paw every day)
In her ears, every where.

Tried everything, then a mate who is a race steward & used to keep greyhounds told me to use Nucidol. ( Hope I spelled right )

It stinks a bit and can be a bit hard on a sensitive hound but it fixed Tiger up alright. 25ml in a big bucket of water did the trick.
Gave her a shiny coat as a bonus as well.

In summer I wash her kennel area down with it every week and no problems since.

We have a cow paddock directly over the back fence with about 130 head in it so it's always a worry but so far so good.

Davy

JohnE
17th September 2008, 09:42 PM
Good on you stevo for starting the tick 'hex'
today pulled 15 off the cats ears, then had a quick look, he badly needs his teeth scaled so theres an easy 200 for the vet.will book him in tomorrow.

replaced all the dogs tick collars and gave them a good going over,
the lab, one fat tick in his ear
the kelpie 18 off his belly
the bitch 35 from the head to tail mostly on the belly.

why the last two,
well yesterday the neighbours weaners got through/pushed down the cockys gate on my bottom paddock so after i hunted them out and shifted my wayward heifers, the two dogs came down and watched while i restrung the gate/fence, lots of lantana on the boundary= tick city, i gave myself a good boot and head barrier spray with some 'ava good weekend' so i didn;t get any.


john

stevo68
17th September 2008, 11:06 PM
Good on you stevo for starting the tick 'hex'
today pulled 15 off the cats ears, then had a quick look, he badly needs his teeth scaled so theres an easy 200 for the vet.will book him in tomorrow.

replaced all the dogs tick collars and gave them a good going over,
the lab, one fat tick in his ear
the kelpie 18 off his belly
the bitch 35 from the head to tail mostly on the belly.

why the last two,
well yesterday the neighbours weaners got through/pushed down the cockys gate on my bottom paddock so after i hunted them out and shifted my wayward heifers, the two dogs came down and watched while i restrung the gate/fence, lots of lantana on the boundary= tick city, i gave myself a good boot and head barrier spray with some 'ava good weekend' so i didn;t get any.


johnHey John, are they paralysis ticks or cattle ticks you get there....oh and sorry...didnt mean to hex anyone;). We checked our other cat today.......she is a hairy bastard.....found 2 ticks....but no symptoms....she has survived 9 ticks before...tough old girl. Looks like Duke is going to make it.....should get him back tomorrow....apparently has to be inside for a cuppla weeks, dont know how I will cope with that....if you have ever had a bengal cat you would understand. Now just have to keep a sharp eye on the dogs, Im not losing my pup like I did my other pup last year to a tick/ snake:mad:,

Regards

Stevo

Captain_Rightfoot
18th September 2008, 08:26 AM
Steve - just found this. I hope the cat makes it through. :)

stevo68
18th September 2008, 12:10 PM
Steve - just found this. I hope the cat makes it through. :) Hey Steve, thanks, looks like he is tough like his namesake..ie the Duke.....some will understand that :). Kids are happy especially my 5yr old, he drags that thing around like its a stuffed toy.........me and Duke.....a love/hate relationship. Should get him back this arvo.......not looking forward to the bill:o,

Regards

Stevo

Xavie
18th September 2008, 12:27 PM
Bengals have the most amazing colouring. I'm no cat lover but my partner was looking for one and almost ended up with a bengal cross ragdoll. :eek:.

We ended up with a Russian blue I think it was called. We got rid of it several weeks later. It was an awful animal. Vicious and just plain old scary.

Pleased for the kids he pulled through.

We get heaps of bush ticks here. Every time my dogs go outside it can be just about guaranteed when they return they will have another tick. I'm just pleased no paralysis ones here.

Xav

stevo68
18th September 2008, 05:39 PM
Bengals have the most amazing colouring. I'm no cat lover but my partner was looking for one and almost ended up with a bengal cross ragdoll. :eek:.

We ended up with a Russian blue I think it was called. We got rid of it several weeks later. It was an awful animal. Vicious and just plain old scary.

Pleased for the kids he pulled through.

We get heaps of bush ticks here. Every time my dogs go outside it can be just about guaranteed when they return they will have another tick. I'm just pleased no paralysis ones here.

XavAmazing colouring, pelts as opposed to fur ( only reason I agreed to having one as I am allergic to cats in general), will take on my 40 kilo shepherd pup but are demanding buggers and can be very vocal ( thats what drives me nuts). Anyway he's home now....apparently has to stay inside for at least 2-3 wks otherwise could have a heart attack if he goes outside running around, jumping etc. He's now lying in my 5 yr olds lap, alls well that ends well.........still hate f'in ticks though. Hoping that is the last time I have to post up about ticks from my side, thanks again for the advice and thoughts. Keep vigilant,

Regards

Stevo

JohnE
18th September 2008, 08:05 PM
Stevo is all good,
i think they are just bush ticks, as the paralysis ticks have a tortoiseshell appearance, where these are dark. The big tick on the lab was the only paralysis tick.
Definately not cattle ticks, they are on your side of the border, not supposed to be on my side.
I check the heifers regularly( they are fairly tame) and when i find big fat grey paralysis ticks on them i know they are about, but havent; seen a one, I even ran a brush through one the other day and only got hair. not a tick to be seen.

But still I don;t trust any of them, a tick is a tick,

Hope your cat is ok, funny talking about cats found a big bare patch on our cats back last night when I was doing the search and remembered that was where his last big paralysis tick was, had been on for over a day , so we isolated him,( downstairs bathroom) cool dark room, for a couple of days and he was fine.

back to todays tick search.

john