ENGINE SAVER NEW LAND ROVER KITS

[Davy]

Hi Everyone

We have just updated the Engine Saver website Land Rover page with the new kits for TD5, 200/300tdi and V8's

These new kits have screw in sensors which simply replace existing plugs in the cooling system.

No hoses need to be removed or cut and no holes have to be drilled to fit these sensors.

These kits were developed with advice, assistance, testing and input from AULRO members over the past few months.
Many thanks to all concerned.

The Td5 kits are on sale now, the 200/300Tdi and V8 kits will be available next week when the new sensors arrive from the UK (orders are being taken now)

www.enginesaver.com.au (http://www.enginesaver.com.au)
Scroll down to the Land Rover logo and click the link beneath it

Or click this link to go direct to the Land Rover page
www.enginesaver.com.au/landy1.htm (http://www.enginesaver.com.au/landy1.htm)

This page is still a work in progress so any suggestions are welcome.

Discounts are available to AULRO members as usual.


Davy

[LandyAndy]

Hi David
Was chatting to a member(Brick) on the trip we did on sunday.
He was asking about a D3 enginesaver,and was there one in the pipline.
Perhaps you could ask if there are any nearby D3 owners willing to let you look and see where you could design a D3 probe.You will need to look at a TDV6 V6petrol and V8 petrol.
Unsure if the D3 electronics already incoperate a low coolant sensor.
Goodluck,well done on persevering with that TD5 probe.
Andrew

[Davy]

Hi Andy

I live in a small town & have only seen 1 D3 so far..

If there is a need for one on a D3 and a demand we will certainly have a look at it.

Anyone have any information on D3's ?

Davy

[LandyAndy]

I wil ask a mate with a D3 TDV6 to contact you.
Andrew

[porgey]

What's that beep my wife asked me yesterday. I hadn't used the disco for several days after I had fitted the engine saver and we both were startled .It is apparent the E.S. doesn't suffer from oldtimers like I do and it was reassuring to know the coolant was still where it should be and not in a pool under the engine thanks Dave Cheers George

[Davy]

Hi All.

The sensors for the new kits arrived from the UK today, so the kits are available as of now.

Aulro discount applies.


Engine Saver Land Rover Page (http://www.enginesaver.com.au/landy1.htm)


Davy

[weeds]

just ordered one......thanks Dave

[crump]

hey Dave, as I already have the old style TD5 engine saver "sleeve in hose" set up and am about to install a new hose, can I just purchase the sensor??

[Davy]

Yes as an existing customer, I can supply you with an up-grade kit.
New Screw in Sensor, new cable and instruction sheet.

email me for special Aulro discount price.


Davy

[Davy]

Hi All.

We have just placed an order for a batch of screw in sensors to be manufactured for the V8's with the 10mm bleed plug in the plastic T piece in the top radiator hose.

These will be available within 2 weeks as complete kits to complement the other two kits we already have in stock.

Davy

[weeds]

hey Davy

mine arrived yesterday, great service......and you wouldn't believe i have had a major coolent loss over the last couple of days, if only i have brought it earlier and had it fitted

my defender is now parked up at MR automotive awaiting the outcome:(, i checked the water level at lunch today as i thought the temp gauge was playing up, had to put 5L of water into the system:o

one problem with having a mechanical temp gauge fitted in the thermostat housing is that when you loose water the temp gauge reads low not high:twisted:must remember that

a low water alarm would have alerted me straight away

after filling with water i could not find a leak, temp gauge is still reading low:(

[Davy]

Sorry to hear that Kelvin.

At least you weren't out in the sticks at the time.

Warren, Dwayne and the boys at Mr Automotive (http://www.mrautomotive.com.au)will sort it for you, no worries.

Davy

[ladas]

What price will be the ones for the D2 V8's

[weeds]

Sorry to hear that Kelvin.

At least you weren't out in the sticks at the time.

Warren, Dwayne and the boys at Mr Automotive (http://www.mrautomotive.com.au)will sort it for you, no worries.

Davy

yep the defender is parked up at MR Auto:(

main problem is if its major its going to be a pain only having one car for mon/tues next week

[Davy]

What price will be the ones for the D2 V8's


Same price as the other 2 kits (Aulro price $160 delivered by express post)

Davy

[Davy]

Evening.

The first batch of sensors for the new kit for later V8's arrived late last week from the UK.
So all our Land Rover Kits are now tailor made and have screw in sensors which simply replace existing plugs in the radiator or top hose (except for the Isuzu engine)

The orders page on the website has been updated and the new kits are now available. (Part number: ESSLR3)
Engine Saver Land Rover Page (http://www.enginesaver.com.au/landy1.htm)

These are to fit the V8 with the alloy radiator with plastic tanks.

The earlier V8's with the all metal radiator shares the same kit as the 200/300tdi (Part number: ESSLR2)

The TD5's use kit part number ESS12TDV

The Aulro discount still applies. ($30 of the rrp) so these kits cost $160 including delivery by express post.

Davy

[ozscott]

Great kits - installed one on my Disco 2. The screw in sensor is nice. Go get one - great insurance and a very well finished product.

Cheers David.

PS. Got the box in the mail today with the plug::). Thanks mate.

[Disco2tow]

Are these really complex to fit? Do you have to take out the dash?
Sounds like a good idea but I hate the idea of ever having to do anything around the discovery dash it is already broken in a couple of places.

[porgey]

There is no need to remove the dash. I removed the Instrument shroud on my D2 only because i wanted to fit he LED in my line of sight. Some people have fitted the LED in one of the empty switch sockets on either side of the Binnacle. When you fit the wire from the sender unit make sure you route it clear of the Exhaust manifold . I routed mine to the passenger side along behind the ABS and through the firewall via a rubber Grommet to the cabin from there its up to you where ever you want to install the buzzer and LED . My power supply is off the cigar ligher Cheers Porgey

[Ace]

yep the defender is parked up at MR Auto:(

main problem is if its major its going to be a pain only having one car for mon/tues next week

I feel your pain Weeds, i destroyed my motor on boxing day because i had put off buying one of these alarms.

I will be buying one as soon as the funds are available, along with an EGT Gauge.

[4wd4fun]

Hi Davy,
I just replaced my plastic Bungs on motor and radiator with brass units and am enquiring re this new sensor as it is still using the plastic Bung is this the factory plug modifide or a new design that will not brake as i had happen.
I know if it did brake it would worn me that i am loosing water but just checking as I have been lucky twice now 1-Radiator (replaced with 4 core)
2- top of plastic bong in thermo housing cracked and started loosing water in drive way.(new Brass bungs).
so was thinking I need an alarm for low water.
Cheers Allan.

[Davy]

Hi Alan

Very good question & one I have been asked a few times in the past week.

Before we designed our screw in sensors we did some serious research
into the properties of plastics when exposed to liquid coolants and high temperatures.


The original plastic plugs are injection moulded from straight nylon with a half life expectancy of 5 to 7 years at normal engine temperatures
( this is the point at which the material degrades to 50% of it's original strength)
A temperature event at any time in the vehicles life will dramatically shorten this life span

Engine Saver sensors are machined from solid Ertalon 66GF30 material.
And have the solid stainless steel sensor core through the centre.

This is the stuff most modern high temperature engine components are made from.
Rocker covers, water pump housings, inlet manifolds and accoustic covers are all made from this material.

Our In-Line sensors are also made from it and have been for years.

In short it has a far higher working temperature and service life than nylon and should easily outlast the vehicle.
Continuous working temperature ratings are 120 degrees for 5000 hours or 110 degrees for 20000 hours

Straight nylon is rated at 80 degrees for 20000 hours

Incidentally the bleed plugs in the Series 11 V8 and the Defender Puma transit engine are now made from this new material as well.

When the older vehicles were made this material wasn't generally available.

Another place straight nylon has been used is in the white drain plugs in the bottom of the fuel filters.
I had a customer last year tell me his had failed and the fuel had leaked away...

I hope this has been helpful

Davy

[biggin]

Hi Davy,

I like the look of this product, although it may be too late. I have been losing small amounts of coolant for a while now, although everything else seems okay. If I ignore the problem it might go away:p.

At least your device will remind me to top up the coolant when the level falls too far. I hope you have a kit for a D2V8 in stock as you'll be hearing from me soon:cool:.

Cheers,
Alan

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Dont ignore it Alan;)
mine lost little bits so a nice Mechanic friend stuck a jar of black stuff in the radiator,,
fixed! for almost 2 years now,,

The D2's can leak and not interfere with cylinders,,
The D2's can leak and it not be a slipped liner,,
The D2's can leak and it not be the end of the world.



Though of course, sometimes it IS the end of the world----

[Aussie]

Please excuse my ignorance but what do these little things actually do/measure.

[Disco_owner]

Aussie;

The Engine Saver Sensor "alarms" the driver if there is any loss of coolant due to a Blown head gasket or damaged Radiator hose , etc , etc , if there is a "leak" in the cooling system due to whatvever reason it allows the driver to take appropriate action to save the engine from being distroyed or heads getting cracked etc.

http://www.enginesaver.com.au/

[Jock The Rock]

Gday Davy

In my not so infinite wisdom I decided to tap a thread in a brass plug and screw the stainless sensor in to that :angel:

Will this still read correctly or do I need to buy another plastic one off you? :oops2:

Thanks

[Davy]

Jock

If you screwed a fully insulated sensor into the brass plug, yes it will work.
However if you simply drilled and tapped the brass plug and screwed in a metal sensor, no it won't work as all you have done is earth the Engine Saver electronics directly and not via the coolant level.
You can verify this as you will not get the test beep & led flash when turning the ignition on as the unit self tests.

If you need a complete sensor let me know.

Davy

[Jock The Rock]

Jock

If you screwed a fully insulated sensor into the brass plug, yes it will work.
However if you simply drilled and tapped the brass plug and screwed in a metal sensor, no it won't work as all you have done is earth the Engine Saver electronics directly and not via the coolant level.
You can verify this as you will not get the test beep & led flash when turning the ignition on as the unit self tests.

If you need a complete sensor let me know.

Davy

That makes sense, but I still get the test beep and LED flash? :p

I have been meaning to drain some coolant out sometime to see what happens

[biggin]

Jock

If you screwed a fully insulated sensor into the brass plug, yes it will work.
However if you simply drilled and tapped the brass plug and screwed in a metal sensor, no it won't work as all you have done is earth the Engine Saver electronics directly and not via the coolant level.
You can verify this as you will not get the test beep & led flash when turning the ignition on as the unit self tests.

If you need a complete sensor let me know.

Davy

I would have thought the sensor would still work (with the sensor screwed directly into a brass bush) providing the fitting, the brass bush was inserted into, was insulated.
This would probably, however, affect the tolerances of the sensor causing it not to work as well as originally designed.
Could be wrong but!:D;)

[alien]

Mine turned up within 2 days as promised so I had a pre/post christmas fitt up.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/12/73.jpg (http://s883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/aliend2/Disco2%20and%20modifications/?action=view&current=PICT1625.jpg)

Didn't know it but my viscous has died, this unit was going off when she was working hard(More on link in signature).
Have to buy a viscios now but cheaper than a new head also,paid for itself:)

Thanks again Davy.

[justinc]

Many thanks David for your prompt support and supply, I am needing ANOTHER lot in the new year!!!

A great product and should be fitted to ALL vehicles, cheap and reliable insurance everyone:)

JC

[scarry]

Got one on mine,just hope if SWMBO is out somewhere & it goes off she doesn't ignore it:(

It would be good if it came with a temp readout as well,just in case the thermostat slams shut,or something else happens & overheats the engine even though it is full of coolant.

Just my 2 cents worth.....

[alien]

Got one on mine,just hope if SWMBO is out somewhere & it goes off she doesn't ignore it:(

It would be good if it came with a temp readout as well,just in case the thermostat slams shut,or something else happens & overheats the engine even though it is full of coolant.

Just my 2 cents worth.....

Prety much why I went for the two in one unit.
Mine never droped any fluid,just got warm so the '"temp" light was on with the buzzer.

[scarry]

Prety much why I went for the two in one unit.
Mine never droped any fluid,just got warm so the '"temp" light was on with the buzzer.

So i have missed something,what is the two in one unit?Does it use one sensor,provides low coolant alarm warning as well as temp readout?

Can't see it on the site.

[alien]

So i have missed something,what is the two in one unit?Does it use one sensor,provides low coolant alarm warning as well as temp readout?

Can't see it on the site.

This is the one I got.
One wire to a the replacment top hose screw/sensor.
The second bolts to the rear of the head to measure heat(Adjusting the dial raises the trigger point).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/12/64.jpg (http://www.enginesaver.com.au/ESTC.htm)
(Found it on the sales page...Engine Saver® Purchasing (http://www.enginesaver.com.au/orders.htm))

[Bushwanderer]

SNIP
A great product and should be fitted to ALL vehicles, cheap and reliable insurance everyone:)

JC

Except that they don't seem to be available for the TDV6.

I contacted Dave months ago, but have received no reply (too hard basket, I suppose). :(

Best Wishes,
Peter

[Ace]

so with thr adjustable dial, is each setting just a pre-built in temperature that when reached trips the alarm?

What temp does a normal 300tdi run at?

[Naks]

Guys, you would be better off with a Little Black Box (Home (http://www.littleblackbox.co.za/)) or a Madman EMS2 (Home Page (http://www.madman.co.za/)) - I had one fitted yesterday to my Puma:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/714.jpg

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Good on ya Naks,,:mad:

when those people support this site maybe we'll post in their VENDOR thread about Enginesaver.

Untill then,,,:angrylock:

[grounded]

i have a temp alarm on my 300 and i bolted it to the side of the block towards the rear [drivers side] and up here in the tropics it runs at 68 or so when puttering around the bush. when i drive it out to katherine [700km dirt @ mostly 70-100km/h] it gets up to 85 and spikes when i stop and idle to around 90 degrees. that is in mid december during the build up. couldn't get much hotter ambient temp than that. mine is getting a flush as the coolant looked a bit brown when i got to darwin.

[Ace]

Good on ya Naks,,:mad:

when those people support this site maybe we'll post in their VENDOR thread about Enginesaver.

Untill then,,,:angrylock:


mmmm, you beat me to it Pedro.

Thanks for that info grounded, most helpful.

When the cash is available i will grab one.

Matt