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101RRS
24th September 2008, 08:42 PM
I just recieved a little fixed speed camera infringement notice in the mail from the NSW RTA.

Don't recall the incident - the camera got me going in the opposite direction across 4 lanes of traffic - guess I am guilty - hey they apparently have a pic:(.

If I pay $11 I can get a copy of the photo in the mail, but I thought I heard that NSW was switching to being able to look at the pic online - and for free.

There is nothing on the notice about this and when I ran RTA they had no idea - anyone else heard of this "new" facility?

Thanks

Garry

Bushie
24th September 2008, 08:56 PM
Did hear about it, but don't know whether it's live yet.

Found it

try here

http://www.sdro.nsw.gov.au/general/camera.html


Martyn

Captain_Rightfoot
24th September 2008, 09:18 PM
Did you do it? :)

101RRS
24th September 2008, 09:34 PM
Thats exactly what I wanted - now why couldn't the RTA point me in the right direction.

Yep there I was in all my glory - two in full colour (poor quality), one enhanced in black and white with all details showing.

Also - was not by the camera I thought - by one I didn't know about:mad: - bummer.

As I said - it must be true - there are pics.:mad:

Garry

V8Landy
24th September 2008, 09:37 PM
You had better post the pickie:p:p:p

Captain_Rightfoot
24th September 2008, 09:39 PM
You had better post the pickie:p:p:p

High Speed Achievement Award (HSAA). :D

V8Landy
24th September 2008, 09:50 PM
:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
High Speed Achievement Award (HSAA). :D

101RRS
24th September 2008, 10:05 PM
You had better post the pickie:p:p:p

Pass

V8Landy
24th September 2008, 10:06 PM
Pass

DOH

101RRS
24th September 2008, 10:29 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/579-32-599633-2.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/579-32-599630-2.jpg

Captain_Rightfoot
25th September 2008, 06:12 AM
I didn't realise you got a HSAA in a Hippo! Now that is something to be proud of!! :D :D :wasntme:

Frame it
Frame it
Frame it
Frame it
Frame it
...

Graeme
25th September 2008, 06:17 AM
The road markings look as though they could be 1 metre apart, so must be there to be able to show in court the distance travelled between 2 pictures that are time-stamped thus proving the speed. Nice trick!

mudmouse
25th September 2008, 06:33 AM
Yep, that's how they do it... a real life saver that one.

The cameras will be heading the way of the system in the UK, that is, digital with a line down the phones to a com-poo-tah so the photo/infringement gets sent out that day. The cameras will be all 'infra red' so no flash - and yeah despite the signs, amongst all the other crap on the side of the road distracting you, you won't know you've done anything wrong until postman pat lobs at your place. Not much of learning experince really...:mad:

Matt

RobHay
25th September 2008, 06:46 AM
You do not seem to have gained on the car in the left hand lane, wonder whether he got a happy snap too.:)

Last year coming back from Dubbo, I went through Tenterfield, to show the kids the saddlery.

Got a photographic post card from the NSW RTA of my drive down the main street, alledged to have been snapped by "inroad speed detection device" My great offence was "64 in 60 zone". My mate the local Qld Police Sergeant rolled around his living room floor when I showed him, thought it was a huge joke.

RobHay
25th September 2008, 06:49 AM
If those line markings are 1 metre apart, you have gone 8 metres in 1 sec.......wait 'til I find my slide rule and work out your speed:D

Captain_Rightfoot
25th September 2008, 07:08 AM
Yep, that's how they do it... a real life saver that one.

The cameras will be heading the way of the system in the UK, that is, digital with a line down the phones to a com-poo-tah so the photo/infringement gets sent out that day. The cameras will be all 'infra red' so no flash - and yeah despite the signs, amongst all the other crap on the side of the road distracting you, you won't know you've done anything wrong until postman pat lobs at your place. Not much of learning experince really...:mad:

Matt
It's all about increasing "yield". The less human work involved the higher the profit.

Graeme
25th September 2008, 07:09 AM
There was until recently a speed camera on a strip of open road, but there were numerous very large signs on the approach from each direction warning of the camera and the camera itself was in full view high on a pedestal. I've always wondered if the local council disagreed with the camera's existance but couldn't rationalize why the RTA allowed the warning signs. But maybe, just maybe, the RTA was actually trying to prevent accidents on that section of road, being a short down-hill overtaking stretch leading into a left bend where oncoming traffic could be travelling quickly but their speed might be hard to gauge.

The road is now dual carriageway with the camera bypassed, so presumeably is no longer an accident-prone site.

Graeme
25th September 2008, 07:13 AM
If those line markings are 1 metre apart, you have gone 8 metres in 1 sec.......wait 'til I find my slide rule and work out your speed:D
The later pic says 'delay 391ms', which calculates to enough speed to get the pictures taken.

mudmouse
25th September 2008, 07:31 AM
There was until recently a speed camera on a strip of open road, but there were numerous very large signs on the approach from each direction warning of the camera and the camera itself was in full view high on a pedestal. I've always wondered if the local council disagreed with the camera's existance but couldn't rationalize why the RTA allowed the warning signs. But maybe, just maybe, the RTA was actually trying to prevent accidents on that section of road, being a short down-hill overtaking stretch leading into a left bend where oncoming traffic could be travelling quickly but their speed might be hard to gauge.

The road is now dual carriageway with the camera bypassed, so presumeably is no longer an accident-prone site.

At the moment the RTA must provide a warning of cameras in use but this will change - covert camera units will be here. Police must display a 'camera in use' sign within 50m of the camera car but the regs don't specify where which is why they're usually placed after the camera (only 18 or 19 camera cars left and they're being phased out). I agree that there are places that cameras are warranted and a good thing - places where tradtional enforcement isn't safe/practical/possible, but they're over represented in metro areas. NSW treasury is dependant on the damn things so they're here to stay...and multiply.

Treads
25th September 2008, 12:44 PM
I have no problem with fully marked camera cars parked on the side of the road taking pics. What gets me is the unmarked ones; If you don't see them or the camera flash, how is that helping to reduce the road toll? :mad:

LOVEMYRANGIE
9th October 2008, 02:23 PM
If those line markings are 1 metre apart, you have gone 8 metres in 1 sec.......wait 'til I find my slide rule and work out your speed:D

Thats only 28.8km/h????
(8m/s x 60 x 60 = km/h
or
8m/s x 3600sec = km/h)

MickS
9th October 2008, 02:45 PM
NSW treasury is dependant on the damn things so they're here to stay...and multiply.

The NSW government is broke. These cameras are pulling in a mozza for them, and churned back into RTA funded traffic enforcement operations where police head out of the metro area, in some cases, to conduct enforcements in country areas.

Cameras in metro areas at so called black spots is an easy way to hit the motoring public in the hip pocket, with, I believe, no real change in their driving behaviour. If they were fair dinkum, why haven't they erected one on Heathcote Road at Heathcote where there have been many fatalities over the years? The Princes Highway at Heathcote is a black spot, and instead of installing a camera, they dropped the speed to 50kph.

My two cents worth (and I've never been snapped by a speed camera - but the missus has!)

MickS
9th October 2008, 02:48 PM
Found this on the RTA web site.

Identifying fixed speed camera locations (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/speedandspeedcameras/fixeddigitalspeedcameras/identifyingfixedspeedcameralocations.html)

Slunnie
9th October 2008, 02:50 PM
Yep there I was in all my glory - two in full colour (poor quality), one enhanced in black and white with all details showing.

Also - was not by the camera I thought - by one I didn't know about:mad: - bummer.

As I said - it must be true - there are pics.:mad:

Garry
That's just down the road from my old school. There is definately signage in both directions, and there are 2 cameras, one on each side of the road. If you were having a really bad day, the police would have also nabbed you on the straight just over the hill as they often sit there with a radar and pull everyone into the bus stop.

The cameras are all there because there is several km's of schools until you get to Carlingford. Everybody complains about it on school days because its soo long and slow.

29dinosaur
9th October 2008, 03:07 PM
Found this on the RTA web site.

Identifying fixed speed camera locations (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/speedandspeedcameras/fixeddigitalspeedcameras/identifyingfixedspeedcameralocations.html)


NSW Map pdf (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/downloads/20071218_nsw.pdf)

Lucy
9th October 2008, 03:16 PM
Thats only 28.8km/h????
(8m/s x 60 x 60 = km/h
or
8m/s x 3600sec = km/h)

The delay was only 391ms, so speed closer to 73.6km/hr!

Bugger!